Is the PSP going the way of the...

...Virtual Boy already? I went to Target to try out the new 360 and buy some green tea, and I noticed: nothing for the PSP, at all. No system, no games, no peripherals, no display case. The DS and GBA, in contrast, both had relatively large display cases and lots of available games.

As for the 360, I played it, and all I can say is: who cares? It's just a higher-res version of the XBox with smoother, crisper details. No real gameplay changes will come from this generation's improvement.

I don't know about Target, but everywhere else I go has a whole section dedicated to the PSP. :/

I was just at Target two hours ago and there was plenty of PSP stuff. The PSP is too conventional to go bottoms-up quite the way the Virtual Boy did.

The only time Ive ever seen someone use a PSP was when a guy, mid 20 was playing a car game on it, while actualy driving. Ive seen plenty more DS's around but no one older then about 16. The PSP wont disapear as long as it has idiots like this guy to buy it, and theres lots of them around

Not everyone that buys a PSP is an idiot, and not every consumer is an idiot.

oll I just realized I made a typo.

I didnt say that. There will be the gamers around buying PSP's but thier extra sales comes from cashed up 20 somthing males who will buy it not relizing they will only use it at inaproapiate times or as a bulky MP3 player. By no means is everyone an idiot who buys a PSP, but a large proportion of sales will go to idiots who dont even know it plays games.

I wont be suprised if the PSP fades away. It desperately needs some good games to keep it afloat.

Its never good when the only press a system is getting is that it has nothing going for it.

It's going to die very fast. It's a poor mp3 player that stands no chance against iPod whatsoever, mobile phones are going to be more popular as portable movie playback and DS is kicking it's *** on the game front. There's really not much it can do, it's an extremely ill thought-out product.

I'm sorry. What was I thinking? :(

Yes, but he did not say that all of them were idiots. Which actually makes a significant difference.

Virtual Boy was an underappreciated, innovative machine. The psp is an overappreciated handheld that combines a number of things that other machines do better.

PSP will do just fine. UMD movies are keeping the system selling quite well, and when popular titles come out at a steadier pace, it'll do even better.

They designed it so that the screen interferes with the square button.

That doesn't seem to happen anymore, though. I got mine about a month ago (the firmware on it was 1.52 ftr) and aside from dipping ever-so-slightly-too-deeply on the left, the square button's fine. And yeah, I read that article where they stated that it wasn't a manufacturing flaw.

[quote=Big Boss][FONT=trebuchet ms][COLOR=yellowgreen]PSP will do just fine. UMD movies are keeping the system selling quite well, and when popular titles come out at a steadier pace, it'll do even better.[/COLOR][/FONT]

Unless Sony is releasing all the movies themselves, that's a good way to lose money fast, to not sell games.

The problem is, Phantom, just like with sony's consoles, the psp could become extremely popular because of something sony has 3rd-parties do for them. In fact, with movies improving the psp's userbase, it's even worse than with their consoles. Once so many units of the hardware have been sold, sony can just point to that sales figure and use their "Look at how big our userbase is! Jump in bed with us!" argument that's worked so well for them regardless of the quality of their products.

I'd actually like to offer that the PSP itself is not a bad bit of kit at all. I got one a couple of months ago, and while it never gets as much play time as my DS, it doesn't deserve the bad press everyone's giving it. The square button is not an issue - I wouldn't have noticed it had I not been researching the PSP online. As with any console, the games will make or break it.

And to be honest, while there aren't many of us - the core gamers, I suppose - who see a future in the games, the majority of the gaming population, who buy a PSP 'simply because it's Sony, and it's gonna be better', are casual gamers.

And with Midnight Club, GTA, NFSU, THUG2R, and a string of EA games, it's not actually a bad lineup for those people. PSP is getting who it wants.

Although the PSP is way too expensive for my taste, it's definately not fading out. Sales are rising. Sales are almost as much as the DS per monthly sales as of late (which still puts the PSP behind DS overall in sales but still). The gaming is slowly increasing. Within a year or two with a price drop included, i'll probably pick up a PSP. Memory though.. That costs a lot of $$$

You're joking, right? DS is selling twice as much as PSP on a weekly basis.

And the 32 meg memory card that's included is big enough for most things, unless you want downloaded content.

PSP won't die out too quickly, but it will definately be loosing to the DS. Especially with wifi games like Mario Kart, Metroid Prime Hunters, Animal Crossing, etc. But I think people will still buy the PSP. Sony's next handheld might do better though, if they learn from their all-games-for-PSP-suck mistake.

I've played one, my friend owned one. Twice. They do suck.

I'm assuming he is saying the majority of the games suck..

Which they don't...but I can't think of any amazing stand out games that are a must have for the PSP.

the psp will go the way of the neo-geo in 1 1/2 years

Of course there aren't gonna be any stand out games on the PSP.

Unlike the DS, the PSP doesn't attempt to change the face of gaming. It's just bringing the console experience to the palm of your hands. Has there been watered down ports? Yes, but has there been original games in as well? Of course.

But just because a game doesn't stand out or really wow a person by doing something new or innovative doesn't mean it suck. I mean, take Ridge Racer for example.

It was possibly the greatest Ridge Racer game to be created, but was it really something new, I mean, do you play it in a different way? Not really, but it's still an excellent game nonetheless.

Of course there aren't gonna be any stand out games on the PSP.

Unlike the DS, the PSP doesn't attempt to change the face of gaming. It's just bringing the console experience to the palm of your hands. Has there been watered down ports? Yes, but has there been original games in as well? Of course.

But just because a game doesn't stand out or really wow a person by doing something new or innovative doesn't mean it suck. I mean, take Ridge Racer for example.

It was possibly the greatest Ridge Racer game to be created, but was it really something new, I mean, do you play it in a different way? Not really, but it's still an excellent game nonetheless.

So why aren't you buying another PSP, then?

Frankly, the PSP isn't going anywhere but up. If anything, the PSP is more popular than the 360, leastways around where I live. Large sections of EBX and the like have cleared out a lot of the room that the GBA and DS used to take up just for the sucker.

Smart? Or the stupidest thing in video game history? Unless they're already making a profit on hardware sales, that is.

Well, I have Mario Kart DS now. That's really all I have to say.

PSP SUX

What does wrestling have to do with the Virtual boy? Is there something i'm not getting? Maybe i'm just retarded but that statement doesn't make any sense to me.

Wrestling may suck...BUT NOT AS MUCH AS SONY AND THE PSP!

Ant. Stop it. It was funny at first, but... wait. No it wasn't.


And oi, big boys, stop fighting. I guess I've known you too long not to realise you're just messing about, but meh. Personally I think it's interesting to get an outsider's view on things like the Virtual Boy and everything, because that way you get an unbiased view, albeit often one blighted by advertising and propaganda. On the PSP - well, I have a brother who's only just bought his first games console - an XBox, probably because he's played my GameCube and PS2 to death and when I moved away he wanted something different But ask him his opinion on the PSP and DS, he'll go for the PSP every time. Now, IMO, he's had equal experience of both (as I own both, heh). And on the first few minutes of play, he was won over by the wow factor of the PSP every time.

That's really what'll keep it afloat, I think. The wow factor. I know that's why I bought mine. The fact that it's not only pretty awesome graphics for something that tiny, but also - and this is important - that the DS can't handle anything that impressive. Without actually playing the machines, everyone thinks the PSP is superior. And that's what moves systems, because there's very little 'try before you buy' in the games industry.

The only thing the DS has going for it - and this isn't from an in-depth perspective, you understand, this is from the view of the bloke on the street who only sees the display stands, of which I realise there are few, but allow me to stretch the metaphor, please - is its lower price point, and possibly the touch screen (which has been advertised as little more than a gimmick). Once the PSP drops in price we'll see a more accurate table of sales, because there will be more of a real choice. At the moment it's a bit like 'well, this one has amazing graphics, but it's £180 more expensive, and I might as well get this one which doesn't do a bad job". When it comes down, though, it'll be more like "well, this has more than twice the graphical power and it's less than twice the price! bargain!"

I guess this is where Nintendo's 'price-our-systems-lower-than-the-competition" strategy breaks down. Sony and Microsoft end up forcing their prices down to next to nothing (you can get a GameCube now, new, for less than the price of two games), and the games end up being more expensive because it's less popular - something that I hope doesn't carry over to the Revolution. And it becomes less of a real option, and more of a 'you don't want that, it's cheap rubbish' choice.

SomebodyRandom, I made a comment that implied that wrestling fans are a lower form of life on this planet than anyone with a valid opinion about anything cool. Comments such as those draw my enemies into the open, gather them in one place, and allow me to summarily ignore them as they vent their impotent rage against my calm superiority.

lol, that sounds so stupid

Not nearly as stupid as a one liner that a 2nd-grader could write to have more of an impact.

I have to agree. Wrestling is total crap. You have to be 6 years old to find it entertaining.

I, Pit, just realized, as a fan of wrestling, that my opinion isn't valid simply because I enjoy watching wrestling.

Man, I'm so stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Yeah, now you can't join the local debating society.

Admitting that you have a problem is the first step to becoming a better human being, Pit. Besides, some of your other opinions might coincidentally actually be quite valid. Once you work on the whole wrestling thing, though, you'll see things on a whole new level.

[quote=Pit]I, Pit, just realized, as a fan of wrestling

I'm not talking to you anymore.

[quote=Fate]:/

[COLOR=skyblue]Not really. You'd have to be six years old to believe the stories, but watching it isn't so bad.[/COLOR]

It's awful.

I'd like to see sale figures of DS, GBASP, and GBA Micro compared to the PSP, if anyone knows where I could find em.

[quote=Speedfreak]It's awful.

You're "awful." RAWR.

[quote=Prince Shondronai]Yeah. I know what you mean. Me am having hard time put the letters together after reading that post of "your's."

Look up the word "retarded" in the dictionary (a thick book with the words of the English language in alphabetical order). I don't think I "held back" at all.

Really, Vampiro. Do I need to cop-out of an argument about Virtual Boy? It's widely accepted that most people hated it, or at least thought they did without trying it. In any case, I didn't say that just because someone likes something that I don't that they're wrong. I implied that because someone likes certain things, they are not as intelligent as those who know better, and are thus unqualified to lecture me about the coolness of anything I do like.

Uh... you realize that the last segment of your "argument" barely makes any sense at all right? Or the parts that do are just blatant facts restated.

[quote=sniper]I'd like to see sale figures of DS, GBASP, and GBA Micro compared to the PSP, if anyone knows where I could find em.

LET THE SOMEBODYRANDOM ANSWER THIS ONE! He works at... what was it, EBGames? Or Gamestop? Or what?

[quote=sniper]I'd like to see sale figures of DS, GBASP, and GBA Micro compared to the PSP, if anyone knows where I could find em.

I don't have exact figures, but it's basically like this: all three combined are beating PSP.

/derailed

Silly Saturday morning cartoons are one thing. They can still contain elements of high comedy coupled with over-the-top action that isn't possible in live-action without considerable and often dumb-looking computer augmentation. They can offer something new, exciting, or stimulating. Fight shows with few-to-no real injuries/interesting motives are only enjoyed by those with no grasp of the multitude of better uses for their time. If you were truly capable of understanding the deeper topics and carrying on a serious debate, you wouldn't try to respond to someone with "Duh...You're retarded! You're an idiot! I fear what you're saying, so you're stupid!"

That definition from dictionary.reference.com is laughable. You don't use a different tense of a word to define the word itself.

Just as liking to watch the evisceration of real, live babies would make you an evil person, liking to watch wrestling makes you a simple one.

Hey, no more wrestling arguements, this flying off topic.

Prince: Stop, no joke, there is absolutely no need to continue on with this arguement, so anymore on the subject from here on out will be deleted.

Uncertain is the future of the PSP. As of now though it's doing fine.

The Xbox 360 needs to be in a black color.

They're silver. Only the Rev was shown truely white.

the nin DS is for little crap that say "look what i got look what i got and you dont" or they wanna as cool as there friends that arent cool at all and just have to much time on there hand. u could say the psp is like vurtal boy but what about .gba,ds,sega handheld,n gage(which i think stupid) why would you rate it on just the vurtal boy.it might look like other systems but it was made to boost sonys sales and for a handheld ps2..watch when the ps3 comes out there will be a pstg or something (play station to go)

I think we need a translator.

The PSP tis a w00tin system. My friend played DS ROMs on it.

...how's that work?

Well, he's a moron, because... you know, it's not... what's the word I'm looking for...

possible?

Oh, it's possible, just not very useful. Seeing as the PSP has no touch screen. I assume there's some sort of weird analogue control. It'd only work on some games - say, Mario 64 DS. In fact, a ROM of that would work quite well on a PSP. As would Mario Kart. Each game works without the touchscreen controls.

Pit it's not impossible.. Anythings possible, but it certainly hasn't happend to my knowledge. Therefore it's probably just a rumor/lie and we can all rest knowing that.

I'm sure I heard tell of a DS emulator that's been adapted for PSP.

[quote=Wings]Oh, it's possible, just not very useful. Seeing as the PSP has no touch screen. I assume there's some sort of weird analogue control. It'd only work on some games - say, Mario 64 DS. In fact, a ROM of that would work quite well on a PSP. As would Mario Kart. Each game works without the touchscreen controls.

Um. Other screen? Microphone?

Well, the PSP screen can comfortably fit two scaled down DS screens side by side, and it's got a microphone port.

No, I don't know why I'm continuing with this farce, it is completely pointless (especially since I own both machines). But it could be done with a little bit of thought.

Well I'm gonna go play Nintendogs on my PSP. ****, I can't do anything!

PSP has a black version, as does DS, as does iPod, as does PS2, XBox, and GameCube. What do you mean?