Check out how crappy the Revolution controller is

2 words: Lightsaber duels. If Lucasarts doesn't support the Revolution, they are fools of the greatest order. A new Jedi Knight game tooled specifically for the system would rock.

Hell yes, sir! In fact, I was imagining reinacting Luke going crazy and hacking off Vader's arm. Oh, and deflecting blaster bolts would be CRAZY AWESOME.

"Yogurt has taught you well...and I see your Nintendo is as BIG AS MINE!"

Mixed feelings. It will obviously create new ways to play games such as the baseball example. However I'm much more concerned in how it will make exisitng game genres easier and better to play. Namely the Mario platformer. But it is very clever and am eager to try it.

I think people who critise the controller for being a DVD remote are fogetting that you wont be using this controller like existing controllers. So SomeBodyRandom, you wont have both hands on the remote and pressing buttons like the controllers of today. You'll be waving it about as quite clearly demonstrated in the video.

However I don't think this controller will attract people who dislike Nintendo anyway. I mean, if regular members on a video games board are so unimaginative and ignorent whats the common public supposed to think?

I can't wait.

[COLOR=Yellow]This just in. Shigeru Miyamoto is taking the stage to talk about the controversial controller:[/COLOR]

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I must repeat: Nintendo execs have confirmed that the remote-style controller can be inserted into a more GAMECUBE-style controller they're working on for the more traditional games. Planet GAMECUBE has the story.

Nintendo has failed me.

Game development revolves around the playstation until developers want to try something new and stop letting their marketing executives lead them around by their balls. It could happen.

As for you, Alastor, why don't you elaborate on how Nintendo has failed you if you know that traditional controllers are not out-of-the-question on the Revolution? Rather it seems it is you who has failed Nintendo if you dismiss them at this early stage.

In any case, us Nintendo fans are going to have the burliest arms in all of gaming history. sony and Microsoft fanboys might think twice about badmouthing Nintendo to our faces.

They failed me. Personally. I never said it'd be completely bad for them, but I won't be buying it.

Having to use, and most likely buy a seperate aparatus for a joystick? No thanks.
Having to wave my arms around and make myself look like a moron to aim on a FPS seems like it would get tiring. Not to mention unless you're really coordinated it seems like it'd throw you off alot. I could just go to an arcade to do that. =/

While I'm at it, it -does- seem a little out of the question. This thing is supposed to attract non-gamers?
[quote=Big Boss]"Hey, I know how to use a remote! Let's get the Revolution!"
I really don't see that actually running through a non-gamer's mind when they see this thing sitting on store shelves. If anything, it seems like it'd scare them off and make them more likely to purchase a PS3 or 360.

Aaron Boulding at IGN said the most logical thing I've heard in the s[b][/b]hit-storm of the last 24 or so hours.

"I'm convinced the killer application at system launch needs to convey the reason behind the controller design quickly and easily. That is, I want to know why this thing looks the way it does... as soon as I boot up the box... So I need a game that instantly demonstrates why this controller is shaped this way and with so few buttons. If Nintendo can deliver that, they could come out of this whole thing laughing."

And we should get that game in the form of either Super Smash Brothers or Mario. Most of us have no idea how either could be implemented with a controller like this and work well. Some of us have vague ideas, but I doubt that any of us really knows how we'd put together even one of those two games for the remote-controller and have it work really really well, the way Nintendo hopefully will. If they can get those right and make them launch titles, or at least launch with one of them, it should lay to rest any doubts people have over this controller. They also can't leave it up to a third party company. It was Nintendo's idea, they have to show everyone else how to do it.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WAVE YOUR ARMS LIKE AN IDIOT TO PLAY GAMES ON THE REV.

Sorry, but I am already sick and tired of seeing that. The Rev simply detects the slight twists and turns most people make when playing with a normal controller anyway, and translates those on-screen. Every report I've read says that small, subtle movements of the controller are far more effective than huge, exaggerating swings and such.

Unless you're incapable of playing something like Wario Ware Twisted (which most likely requires a lot more twisting around than your average Rev title probably will) without breaking into a sweat, the Rev's gyro controls will certainly feel completely natural to you.

Has anyone on this facking forum even contemplated the idea that maybe, just maybe, the controller may just be ok. Instead of HORRIBLE or the BEST THING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME.


Honestly, I believe the revolution controller could end up being much like the nintendo ds is now. Something that is BETTER than normal controllers for SOME things and NOT better than normal controllers for other things. It could carve out a share of the market, not completely take it over, and not completely fail.

It doesn't have to be the future, it doesn't have to be a bad idea. It can be an alternative with innovation and drawbacks, just like every invention over the last past 8,000 years have been.

Well hopefully whoever said you can use the GC controller is correct. The one handed thing is a good thing in a way. If you can learn to use it, it'd give you an extra hand to hold a glass of soda, or beat off.. In either case.. I probably won't purchase one til someone lets me try it out for myself.

It might look really weird at first, but when you think of how you could use it you realize how fun it would be. Plus, with the expansions you can add to the controller, you can use classic controls in games like the new Super Smash Bros.

Think about the DS and the stylus. Didn't it seem sort of weird to think about using a stylus to play games? But we now know how awesome it is, thanks to games like Meteos or Kirby, etc. I think the same thing goes with the Revolution.

Although I do hope they redesign the analog stick extension a little to make it feel more like a controller when you use that part, so playing SSB or something like that would feel natural.

I was a little shocked at first when I read what it looked like and then saw it, but I now realize how awesome it is. And as Somebody Random said, you can beat off with your other hand.

Let us stop babbling on about it. It's either going to be Great, Alright, or Sucky. Lets not fret on it til we've tried it.

Well for one thing I can't see myself playing Smash on that thing. I mean, I am so used to the way the GCN controller worked I was lookign forward to something a bit similar or something. True this is a most unique idea they have thought up. But I don't see how I will be able to perform all those tricks in Smash with a DVD remote. I can only judge on looks alone. I myself as many others have never actually tried it out for themselves so I am willing to keep an open mind about it and see what is to come of it. Once I am able to get my hands on this wacky new way of playing games I will make my judgements then based on how the game play works out for me. After all you can't judge on pictures alone, you need to acutally try the thing out so I will await anxiously until that day arives. I just hope Super Smash isn't a let down on the system. Who knows, they may find out a good way to make the game work well with the controller.

The more I find out about the controller the more it kicks ***.

I love it. The more I read about it, the more awesome it looks. So far, I have loved every aspect of it. And for those of you whining about how to play games, Nintendo will find a way. Honestly, do you really expect Nintendo to release some crappy version of Super Smash that completely limits your moves and such? No. And the movements just look great. I extremely look foward to playing any FPS on this, and other games as well. I haven't seen a video, but just reading on shooting items Duch Hunt-esque sounds great. And medievil/Star Wars games? Swordfights. There are endless possibilities on how this can be used.
Nintendo reported that they'd completely change the way Zelda games are played. I had doubts on that, but after seeing this controller, I have none now. I don't know why I love this controller so much, but I can't wait. It looks simply amazing. Bring it on.
Also, you won't be aimlessly waving your arm about. It's like a mouse. It'll take about as much effort to move it all the way across the screen as it does to do the same with a mouse. :shake:

EDIT: Here's some 3rd Party developer's opinions as well. http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651304p1.html

And by the way, you people who are arguing about PS3's controller, you are retards. It's the exact same this. It just has longer handles. There is nothing innovative, so stop using that as another point to start an argument.

Same here. The more I find out about it and the more I think of the potential it has, the more I use my extra hand to... Well, anyway, the control scheme is perfect. You don't have to worry about FPS controls. First off, the motion sensor is perfect for the aiming, and secondly, you wouldnt need to change controls (other than buttons), because you could just switch the position of the analog extention and the main controller.
There was an idea that was like this in the sense that it had two parts, but the way that was illustrated, it looked hard to hold and move the analog stick at the same time. However, the real Revolution controller is designed so its easy to hold, and playing SSB will be simple.
Anyway I bet they will make a gun-shaped Resident Evil controller or something. It'll be the Zapper on steroids! This would be perfect for FPS games and Metroid Prime 3. And of course, Warioware would be perfect. Plus, like what happened with the DS's, franchises like Mario and Zelda will be augmented with the new means of controls.
The look of the controller seems pretty cool, though I'm sure Nintendo might change the design a bit, the way they did with the Nintendo DS.
Me like Revolution.

Why do people keep saying it's like a DVD remote? Why not just a remote, without the DVD part?

I'm such a geek. Last night I cut up a cardboard box and assembled a little fake cardboard Revolution controller and filled it with rice and hot-glued it together, then covered it in duct tape. I had the urge to practice moving the thing around for a sword fight like it's a hilt. Then I realized what a dumbas[b][/b]s I am. I'll post a picture of it later if I really feel like embarrassing myself.

was the rice supposed to be the rumble pack?
Haha, I used to make cardboard gameboys, where I'd stick the cartridge in andlook at the picture through the hole.

anyway, Revolution will be fun to play. yeah.

Actually, Nintendo said they would produce a controller shell much like the wave bird. It would have a port to put the controller in from the top (using the little slot on the bottom of the remote). This would allow classic controller usage as well as the new sensor. Thsi would probably be used for games like SSB, although I'm sure the normal controller with the analog attachment would be used for games like Metroid.

Oh ***, I want to play the revolution now. Now. NOW. NOW!!!!

Holy crap. This thread is a perfect example why straying from the norm leads to a massive uproar.

I'm one of those people who are impressed with the video. I have to say that I'm definately looking forward to playing with that controller. No wonder they kept it under wraps. Had Nintendo have revealed it at the beginning, the people who cursed the thing to hell would still retribute the idea today. Going in a new direction seems to confuse a lot of people at first, like "Why are you doing this!?", and then when some people are used to it, they go a log with it. I wonder, I just wonder what is going to be said after the launch day of this system.

The first part of the controller can be flipped 90 and held with both hands to play older games. Now that's sweet.

I totally agree with you. my reaction was sort of "whoa, what the hell?" but now I am obsessed with the controller. And who knows, if Nintendo hadn't patented it, PS3 might have had a gyro-scopic boomerang!

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651559p1.html
There is a mock-up image of the wavebird shell:
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Oh gosh, don't I look like a fool. I screwed up the tag in the judgement up above.

The innovation is in the fact that it's totally spacially self aware. It knows when you move it left, right, up and down, which isn't new, but knowing when you move it forward and backward is insane, as well as knowing when it's tilted and what angles it's at. If you don't see the innovation in that, you must not have been playing video games for very long.

In case you feel like educating yourself further, you can read exactly what it does right here:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651559p1.html
And you can see practical application to games here:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651224p1.html

Have fun.

[COLOR=Yellow]Ok, in Nintendo's defense, i'm also getting tired of the people complaining about how they don't like the idea of waving their arms around like an idiot. Ok, look, take any remote control, point it at the bottom right corner of your T.V screen, now point it at the top left. Did you wave your arms around like a maniac? No. That's as much movement as you're gonna get with the Revolution games.

The examples shown in the video (if you've seen it) were exaggerations.[/COLOR]

That's a great picture. Two directional pads and a gigantic A button for more gameplay! The b and a buttons right smack in the center are just icing on this already super-sweet cake. I hope it's fake.

Big Boss and I have had little discussions about the Rev controller, and we've come to the conclusion that we really can't knock it until we try it. In the meantime, we can point out that the Rev controller looks ridiculous. It's all just speculation, and nothing more. Big Boss isn't a fanboy, he just prefers Sony. Same with Coarse, only with Nintendo.

[quote]That's a great picture. Two directional pads and a gigantic A button for more gameplay! The b and a buttons right smack in the center are just icing on this already super-sweet cake. I hope it's fake.

What the hell are you talking about? O.o

Well, now I have to trade in my GameCube when it comes out.

It's a very interesting concept, and although it'd be hard to develop anything for it, the controller's appeal is basically the EyeToy multiplied by how many games it'll have, plus basically all the other backwards-compatible games. There's definitely a market for that. All I can do is applaud Nintendo, because yet again they've made a risky move that may cost them, but they're furthering gaming innovation in the process.

That takes balls. When has Sony done such a thing?

Question: Since the revo is backwards-compatible, will I be able to use the new controller with my GCN games?

I think you use the GC controller for GC games, but the new shell for N64 and SNES games.

What I was asking is if it'd be possible to use the Revo "stick" as a controller for GCN games - ie, using the gyroscopic function instead of a joystick.

I think that'd be fun.

I dont know, maybe. But I think you would probably use the wavebird shell. But with NES games you could also turn the remote on its side, using the a and b (or x and y) buttons and the d-pad.
I'm really happy with the controller - it looks really fun to use and looks great for FPS games. And my worries are gone now that they have the controller shell, so playing SSB will be just like before.

I can't wait to try this! It looks like fun! :)

I'd really love to see footage of the retooled Metroid Prime 2 demo and see what looking around by moving the controller actually looks like. It sounds very neat.

FOOTAGE!? WHERE!?

EDIT: Oh, you want to see footage. Crap, sorry.

I was just expanding upon what you said.

I know their must be a ton more to this controler.

They said their would be a touch screen right? where is it?

Basically the Controler can go into other shells and use them. This makes me wonder what the true possiblities are. (i.e 3rd party companys making special controler shells for games and such)

I disagree that the actual design of the controller is bad.

It's the best darn looking remote I've ever seen.

My main fear is 3rd party support. It wouldnt be controversial to say that 3rd party support and Nintendo aren't often heard in the same sentence but my main fear is how unimginative other devlopers can be. Even leading ones such as Capcom and Namco have barely been able to come up with good ideas for the DS, so how can I trust them to make the Revolution worth while? Also I hope Ninty themselves doesnt do a Sony and makes buckets of crap Eyetoy like gimmick games.

I agree with bebop, i like the revolution controller and i think it will revolutionize gameplay.....ugh now i jus have to what for it to be released...

[quote=TendoAddict]They said their would be a touch screen right? where is it?

Um. When exactly did Nintendo explicitly state that the Revo controller would have a touch screen? When? Did Miyamoto say that? What about Iwata? Or are you just quoting some blog run by a thirteen-year-old who pulls facts out of his ***?

I can definitely imagine playing the 3D Zelda games with the controller and analog accessory, myself. Controlling Link's movements with the right hand and swinging the Master Sword with precise movements of the left. It might even be simpler than that, depending on how the designers make the game. A flick of the wrist upwards or down executes a vertical slash, left and right equals horizontal.

I just cant wait till i get to go to e3 this year. I read an article on 1up that said the games would be playable at e3. I think the controller is amazing. It will completley re-design the way you play games.thats just my opinion. I wont be able to really judge it till i play it

Nintendo's booth is going to have to be huge at E3 if they've got 200 people swinging those things around all day! The first-aid station had better set up a booth right outside theirs!

The remote detaches, morons. Heres the real controller http://realnintendorevcontrolleromglololol.ytmnd.com/

DETATCHES MORONS? WHOA! FROM WHAT?

THE XBOX 360!

I know, man. I was ridiculing your lack of puncuation!

Here's my insanely crude, but I believe more sensible idea of the shell for Revolution's controller:

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/Speedfreak312002/crapmockup.jpg[/IMG]

Thats a nicely drawn controller ^_^

Oh shush.

I think it makes more sense than just making it like a Wave Bird, because you already have the GC controller compaitibility for that, so they might aswell use the traditional ABXY configuration that 360 and PS3 use for the sake of compatibility.

This is what IGN has to say about the controller and the cradle that Nintendo is planning on releasing. ** The picture below is a mock-up made by IGN. It may look similar to the one nintendo is releasing**

Q: What does the conventional controller cradle/shell do?

A: This add-on makes it possible to play Revolution games in a more traditional manner. The shell is designed to look and function like accepted "regular" controllers, such as the Wave Bird. After its bottom casing is removed, the Revolution's free-hand-style remote is inserted into a gap in the middle of the controller shell. Gamers can then use the shell as they would a traditional controller, with a notable difference: the pointer remote's sensory functionality remains active. As a result, gamers get the best of both worlds: more buttons and two analog sticks along with motion-sensing operations. In a Revolution version of Madden Football, gamers might be able to use the combo to control players with the shell's analog sticks and execute pinpoint passes with the pointer's improved accuracy.

[IMG]http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2952/revcontrollercradle5qg.jpg[/IMG]

Nintendo has not yet released official imagery of what the controller shell might look like. However, we've created a mock-up (above) based on what we know of its functionality. The real controller shell is likely to connect to the free-hand-style pointer in a very similar fashion. Please note that we realize our model is not entirely to scale, but this is the best we could do on short notice.

The sensor doesn't have to point at the screen. It's not a light gun. I don't see how there wouldnt be any space, either.

There is an article over at IGN which is like an editor's round table discussion. Some of the guys make good points, and one guy said that instead of playing Zelda you would be link. He said for example you would be moving with the analog stick and swinging the sword with the controller. So it will be interesting to see how they make this work. I still think it is going to be pretty dumb, but games like that might be pretty cool.

It's basically a 3-dimensional mouse. First Person Shooters are gonna be amazing.

I don';t know how muchi would enjoy a Zelda where you move to swing the sword. I would probably like it, though right now it seems strange.
I guess i would like either a button and virtual controls for a Zelda game. The revolution will probably attract lots of FPS games, which Nintendo doesn't have much of. Not any good ones at least.

For anyone *****ing about having to buy extra accessories to play more games, remember that the Revolution will more than likely be the cheapest of the 3 systems anyway. So which will you really be paying more for? Systems that let you play games the same old way? Or a system that lets you play games the same old way, and a bunch of new ways? We'll know for sure when the official prices are announced, I guess.

Why do I have to buy more stuff for backwards compatibility?

Forget lightsaber battles, it's all about online Zelda sword fights. I know Coarse has said it already but I just wanted to 2nd it really.

Oh and Speedy, your design looks very similar to a PS2 controller. Just thought I'd point it out. Imagine though if the real one did look like a dual shock. Nintendto copying Sony? Lol the twist of it all!

I'm aware it looks like a Dual Shock. That's actually the point, then Nintendo would have the best of both worlds with the GC controller AND the Revolution's shell. And people wouldn't bitch about the GCs button layout either.

I remember hearing something about backward compl. How will the controller work with that?

EITHER:

PLUG IN YOUR GAMECUBE CONTROLLER.

OR:

USE THE "TRADITIONAL" SHELL FOR THE REVO CONTROLLER.

Please read the rest of the thread first.

I wonder how the older games will be updated graphically.

And as for the controller shell, I don't see why it wouldn't look like a normal wavebird. First of all, it would have the sensor which would make it different, and not just the same thing over again. And also, Nintendo is trying to attract many new people like non-gamers, which probably don't own a gamecube and thus don't have a wavebird. I mean, the shell's button layout would probably be a bit different, but nothing too different from the wavebird.

The hardware can update them graphically quite easily. JUst dispplay is at better resolutions, framerates and have better texture filtering, simple. Hell, the hardware can even improve polygon models on the fly by patching over pointy corners and making things look smoother.

Imagine playing Ocarina of time with imrpoved graphics. That would be really awesome.

I don't think the Console itself will much improve OOT's graphics. Though it would kick*** I doubt it'll happen. I love OOT... Do they have a list of the older games you can play with the Revolution Yet?

I saw this in another forum and thought it was a cool idea I should share with you. Survial horror could be done so well with the revolution controller.

Imagine: you walk around in the dark only holding a candle, the flicking light fixes itself in realtime as you move your candle around corners to investigate the shadows. Suddenly something jumps at you, you unconciously jerk the controller and the awry movement causes the flame to go out...

I've got a couple of buddies that live in Okinawa-ken and travelled over to TGS. They got a handle on the controller (no pun intended), and said that the controller, if given enough research and development can make this thing revolutionary like Nintendo's aiming for.

I could go off their word alone, but that would make me foolish. I'm hoping from their positive feedback from trying it, (The Metroid Prime Demo was awesome they said, better than using a mouse for a fps.) that it is in fact what it's been cracked up to be.

Anyone that dismisses this puppy without actually getting their paws on it is just being judgmental and needs to be more accepting and willing to try something different.

Yes I've seen all the YTMND's about the controller being a dvd remote, haha.

There's plenty of what-ifs that will keep my mind racing until I get to try this one out.

[quote=Dreboy64]I'm sure third party developers will come up with plenty of creative ideas. And if they don't, at least they can use the wavebird shell. I do hope that someone makes a Halo-esque FPS game in the sense that its a killler-ap. With the Revolution's controls, that would be totally possible.

Considering Retro studios is loving the controller and that Metroid Prime 3 may be more shooting orientated to make better use of the controller you can imgaine Metroid Prime 3 being the killer app. And dare I whisper *online*

Nintendo said they were working on improving the graphics of certain old games on the side. As in, actually designing and programming the improvements rather than just plugging in a line of code to kick them up to high-res mode.

I didn't even know Nintendo had released info on its new controller until I noticed a related quip in Bebop's sig. Go me for paying attention.

Anyway, here's most of what I think after the past seven pages:

First of all, why's everyone saying "DVD Remote?" Remotes existed before DVD players, you can just say remote. Pardon me for even mentioning that, but it sure became a pet peeve in a hurry.

I was a little skeptical about it at first because it seemed like it ruled out a lot of different game styles (fighting games concerned me the most), but upon hearing that a shell with a more conventional controller was on the way, I think Nintendo has really outdone itself. Since the jump from 2D to 3D, there really hasn't been anything specifically marvelous about the gaming industry; in fact, most people were complaining about playing the same old kinds of games over and over. Now Nintendo's doing what it can to broaden the horizons once again while Sony and Microsoft simply go for more power just to enhance things like graphics or running speed, things that will continue to give those same old games people have been complaing about, and people are instead complaining about Nintendo giving them something original and unique as well as the old and familiar? It bothered me when people mocked the DS touch screen for the same reason: it's a brilliant innovation, but even if you don't like it, it still offers traditional gameplay, so what reason do you have to mock it? I think most people just want another excuse to dislike Nintendo.

Some have suggested all these controller add-ons will cost a lot, but even if Nintendo doesn't sell them all in the same package anyway, I don't think it'll be too bad. Remember, this is Nintendo, not Microsoft; they're not the ones looking for excuses to charge us more and more when they can just give us what we need at a reasonable price.

I worry about 3rd Party Support, also, since most producers give Nintendo a hard time to begin with for no reason (Soul Calibur III only for PS2? Wtf?), but I think they'll warm up to it once Nintendo shows them how it's done with some rock-hard first party titles.

Doubtlessly, however, Nintendo will fall behind in sales once again for the same old reason: trendy, stick-in-the-mud gamers just won't trust 'em.

But you know what I think's a lot funnier than how the controllers look nowadays? That way that you guys tear each other to pieces over this stuff. I mean, it doesn't cure cancer, it plays games, so lighten up.

It'd be a good idea...

Anyway, what if they had an extension where you had another "controller" that acted like the normal one, only with that you could have four players with two motion-sensing things. This could be good for a drumming game or a boxing game with 4 players or something. maybe a FP sword game where you use one hand for the shield and the other for your weapon.

There isn't a way to play with 4 players each using 2 controllers, unless it's LAN. I think that's the problem Drewboy is trying to fix.

Yeah, thats what I was saying... Although it really isn't that great of an idea. But I'd like to see how two controllers will be used in different games.

There are probably better ways they could accomplish that. It might just be better to use the internet for LAN.

Nintendo could have just kept the GC's control desgin or slightly improve it (making it a little bigger wouldn't have been a bad idea). I mean I just don't see how we're supposed to play SSB with this thing...or even some Next Gen Zelda Game. They must be real confident about this whole remote thingy. All In all, if there's one thing we've all learned from nintendo, it's that we should never under-estimate them. They've done the impossible several times before in the past so who knows? Big N might just pull it off. I'l give them credit for coming up with stuff that's original and unique but sometimes they just take to much risk at hand.



Let's just wait and see. Next thing you know some companies might even start byting off the idea just like the cube's wireless controller.

Man I think its kinda cool I mean nintendo has always been the best at making new awsome controllers so this one is gonna probly rock and now its like using a remote for your tv from the loox of it and im excelent at that ^.^

Anyone here not havea wifi connection so they have to buy the ethernet dongle? Thank gosh my cousin fixed our router so we will be able to use wifi.

looks like ****.

they screwed up the controller. and im a nintendo fanboy. ill still be buying it

I can see why everyone is so upset and dissappointed....but I just saw a video with nintendoo's president... and as silly as the controller may look...the expansion slot in the bottom..not only accepts the lil joystick BUT nintendo will produce a device that allow "classic" style controllers to plug into the bottom of the "remote"....so YOU DONT NEED PLAY WITH ONE HAND...WE CAN STILL USE THE NORMAL CONTROLLERS.....so for that reason I will still look into getting a revolution..because I dont "NEED" to use the remote...

Thanks... You know... We... Already knew... That...

People are afraid of the revolution.

I know most say that Im silly but not really.

Since the re-birth of gameing (i.e nes after the gameing crash in the mid 80's) every controller has been simmilar. Directional buttions (via d-pad or stick) on the left and action buttions on the right. Then it evolved with shoulder buttions and more directional buttions in the lower middle.
And this is what Sony and Microsoft are doing, playing it safe.(look at the controllers, nothing you havent seen before)

But nintendo has been in the industry long enough to know that things need to change. While you may think that its trivial that something thats only been around for 30 years should take a drastic change. But nintendo thinks other wise, its time for change before we get stuck in the past forever.

This idea is nothing new, people invent things and other people refuse to do them because they stick to old meathods.

Did you think as soon as the car was invented that everyone put the horse and a carriage. Ofcourse not, and even though cars are still being improved upon it was a change that people made, not to say that people dont want to ride horse and carrige once and awail.

This is much like Nintendo making the revolution , most people wont go to it right away. But soon as they accept it they can see what the revolution can bring a whole new form of gameing . Not to say that people wont tat to do it old school anymore (aka revoluytions new stlyes of play and old classic games)

i just feel that it will be a bombed idea (a failed one)

For some reason that remote reminds me of the old NES Zapper gun, and that got me thinking...

DUCK HUNT REVOLUTION! (C'mon, you know you'd want it.)

duck hunting revolution... nice

LOL!..... haha.

Isn't.... Um, well.
That's more like a FAAAAR away hope.

Loz, it'd been nice though :P

I usually wondered what the future of gaming would hold: eventually, graphics would become so masterful that the games would just become the same old thing, some of the better and some of them not so good, like movies. But with Nintendo's controller, gaming can take a new turn even if the technical specs of systems is perfected.

Are you kidding me? By the time graphics become mastered, virtual reality would take over the boring controls. I doubt that'll happen in our young years.

I just wish everybody would chill out already, or at least the negative "IT SUXX!!" people. Too many times have things come out of nowhere and ended up being fun as hell, so why the heck would this plunge just because it might interate something people do nearly every day?

The first step into the vitual reality dimension may not be so bad. Who knows? Maybe the contraptions depicted in that PS9 commercial might actually happen before the year 2100... but I'm not counting on it.

Because if that were to happen, then the downspiral of videogames would be ginormous after that.

Isn't the revolution taking the first step towards virtual reality?

Umm.. I actually like it.

*prepares to die for voicing her opinion*

Meh Like I said. I'm not too fond of it but I won't bad mouth it yet. I have to try it before I make a decision. The first thought that came to my mind when I saw it was probably "retarded" or "Gay," but i've taken a new perspective and decided to wait to try it out for myself. Its sorta like when the Xbox Came out. My cousin had me come over to try it and I thought it'd be crappy but now it's my favorite console. So who knows..

I was shocked and a little dissappointed at first, but that's because all they said was "It looks like a remote." Now I know enough details to know that I will like this.

...Which adds to my point. By the time graphics are mastered, I'm pretty sure virtual reality would be mastered, too.

Bebop, I thought that it just messed up your reaction time since the computer can't respond fast enough to your commands. I've never heard of cases of blindness from VR.

I really like the Revolution controller to some extent. As the preview of the controller showed, it looks extremely fun for those types of games like Donkey Konga and of the like. But as for platforms, RPGs, fighting, etc. it seems like pure crap. But I bet they'll release a neat cute alternative.

Apparantly the fault with VR is beyond repair. We receive sight from 6 means of input or something. I'm no biologoist but I'm doing me best to rememeber. Anyway, we get it through 6 means of input. VR can only create 4 means as afterall what we are seeing is not actually real. Reptitive use made childrens brains only capable of requonzing the 4 mean if input VR supplied and as a result blocked out the other 2. In some cases it was just created bad sight in others it created permoinant blindness.

Are you thinking of the Virtual Boy's problem? I've never heard that about VR in general. I just know that the Virtual Boy gave people headaches and screwed up small kids' vision.

Honestly I'd rather see sense-skipping technology pushed than VR. Something like Questworld. I don't know how likely that is to happen, I'm just tired of only getting to use 2.5 senses to play video games, and VR would likely just continue that. I want Smell-O-Vision, ****it.

Yep, real crap. They better change it so you can use GameCube controllers, or I will drop Nintendo completely. A remote control is the most f***ing stupid thing they have ever done.

The earliest "remote controls" had wires. My folks still have an old VCR with a corded remote. I liked it. No batteries to change.

I'm going to add my two cents in here now because I'm a tardy bugger and I haven't had the Internet since about two days after the controlle rwas announced, but...

To me, this doesn't seem particularly revolutionary. Well, I guess it is, in the same way that the analogue stick was revolutionary - in that this laser-guided movement-propelled thing is just the next step up in analogue control.

Now we can't only move 360 degrees [sic] forward, left, right and back with as much or as little force as we want, but now - suddenly - we've had a fourth dimension added to move about in. Explain to me, all you doubters, how, for games, this is a bad thing?

Just forget about the look of it for a minute. I mean, it's not as if it's got sharp corners and a contrasting grey and purple design, or anything. Just focus on what it does.

Isn't the whole point of games to give an imersive experience? To provide an escapist outlet? Surely by removing the barrier of identification with the characters (namely the fact that to 'control' the character you are simply pressing buttons) by giving them actual control - like swinging a sword, or aiming a gun, or whatever - you are bringing games even more to the fore of what we have been aiming for - to provide an immersive, engaging and all the more realistic experience.

Note there, by the way, that I said 'realistic' and not 'real' or 'provide more realism'. Realism and realisticivityness :P are two different things, the former I believe Microsoft and Sony are aiming for, the latter Nintendo.

I'm sure anyone with half a brain can think of somehting great that this little thing can be used for, rather than thinking about what exists now that won't work on it. Because that's not quite what the Revolution is designed for.


oh, and Smash Bros, by the way - why wouldn't it work? You've got the Nunchaka controller in-box, and all you need is two face buttons, a shoulder button and an analogue stick. Oh, and to jump? Flick the 'remote' upwards. :)

I just noticed it was released. Most of it looks pretty bad, but hopefuly it wont be a ruined designed.

Okay, look, SSBM won't be akward at all if you use the controller shell. Hell, even if you use the analog attachment it won't be weird. Itm ight seem that the attachment is hard to hold or something, but it seems really easy to use. Please, know the facts before you act like you do.

HEY!.. i've never doubted Nintendo.

...niether have I... I wasn't talking to you if thats what you thought...

Mmm, revolution.

Well.. you posted without quoting someone so yeah, i though you were reffering to me.

We don't know if its going to be awkward or not until we try the new controller. I'm a bit worried that they'll mess up smash bros, though.

(I wasn't talking to anyone in particular)
No, Nintendo definetly won't mess up SSB. They've seen how succesful the last two games are, why would they suddenly risk it by changing the control schemes? And why do you think they announced the fact that there was a Classic Controller shell? So people would not be worried or complaining that they couldn't play games like Zelda, SSB, etc. on it.

I doubt Nintendo will let anyone down.

And why would they not use the controller shell, or at least have it as an option, for SSB? Even if they didn't (which I highly doubt), there is still the analog attachment. It's not like they're going to have us jumping and punching with just the remote.

Look at LOZ: The Adventure of Link, Legend of Zelda was a insanely popular game and then they messed with the formula. I liked The Adventure of Link, but you can't disagree with me that it isn't a different game.

Edit: Even if they have the controller shell, they would probably incorporate the motion sensor into the game. Which could make it awkward, but I won't know until I try the controller.

jabbing the remote to punch, flicking it up to jump, etc... Anyway, Link's Adventure was a mistake they learned from. It's the 5th generation that Nintendo's being making games/hardware, so I'm 100% sure they wont screw up SSB or anything.

By the way, does anyone know if the shoulder buttons are analog? I sort of hope they are.

Well, I'm glad that you're optimistic, but I'm not going to relax until I know how the game works.

Well, if anything, they definetly aren't going to entirely replace the control scheme after two succesful games with similar controls. And about the Link's Adventure, seeing as that was just the second game, it wasn't exactly a stupid mistake like SSB would be if they screwed it up. SSB already has two successfuly games out, where that game was just the first of the whole series. It was more of an experiment to see which would do better... I guess.

The Adventure of Link was hardly a mistake considering the first game was just as abysmal. It was only in Zelda 3 where they started doing things right, and Zelda 4 where they refined it.

By Zelda 4, you mean Link's Awakening, right?

[QUOTE=Vampiro]Obviously, but that's not what he was talking about.
I know he's saying it'd be akward to play games like SSBM with the attachment, I'm just saying it doesn't matter because there will be a controller shell.
And also, people really should know about the facts like the shell before they say things like playing SSBM will be terrible.
And yeah, they would change the controller scheme a bit probably to incorperate the remote, the way they have done/are doing with some DS games, like Mario and Zelda (said to use the touch screen).

Hey, like or hate the thing, you gotta admit, Nintendo's got guts. And though I'm still waiting until I actually use the controller before I make any kind of final judgment on it (though I'm pretty optimistic for the most part) I can tell you that my respect for Nintendo has shot up by about five hundred percent ever since this (and the DS too, for that matter). After all, can you imagine anyone else coming up with a system as radically different from the norm as the DS or Rev are? I know they may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I think Nintendo deserves a heck of a lot more credit than they get for actually trying to be different and daring to try potentially controversial new ideas - something not many game companies seem entirely willing to do nowadays.

To be perfectly honest, I think Nintendo's better off being a sort of "niche" company rather than 100% "mainstream" as Sony and Microsoft are. I know that Nintendo's independent-minded, we're-doing-what-WE-want attitude is where a lot of their distinctive, certainly quirky charm comes from, and personally it's what I love the most about them.

Besides, I'm sure there was a point in history where [url=http://www.retrogames.co.uk/stock/assets/images/Mach_-_Nes_Controller.jpg]this[/url] must've looked pretty unorthodox compared to, say, [url=http://www.axess.com/twilight/console/detail/2600.jpg]this[/url] or [url=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/eternalsaturn/funkycontroller.jpg]this[/url] (and I swear that last one looks more and more like the Rev controller the more I look at it; guess Nintendo wasn't the first to have a LOL REMOTE CONTROL, eh?). I mean, no joystick?!? "Start" and "Select"? What were they thinking? ;)

[quote=Drewboy64]Exactly.
I think he means lttp, but i don't know.

3 = Link to the Past, 4 = Link's Awakening

What's difficult to understand?

Oh yeah. I must have been on crack or something.

I would really like to see some new franchises on the Rev, which I think will be very possible.

I was thinking about the hints givin t us before we knew what the controller was.

the hint

"its a controller that I think everyone can use and adapt to." (or something like that)

Now we all had our ideas, some far from useable even by pro.

But the answer was very simple.

A Remote (not dvd)

Some gamers say it looks funny.

But what about non-gamers?

I think just about everyone can use a remote, hell my six year old brother can use a remote.

And who can move their arm? yeah, alot of people.

But give a Ps2 controller to my mom? She might as well be looking inside the human brain.

But she can move her hand and use a remote.

See? Its not like nintendo does this stuff without thinking.

[quote=Drewboy64]Oh yeah. I must have been on crack or something.

I would really like to see some new franchises on the Rev, which I think will be very possible.

They've already said there's going to be a new franchise around launch.

really? coolio. When did they say that?

They said it at E3, I think.

Correct. Or a few days after anyways.

They referred to it as an "IP", which is why you might have missed it.

Yeah I think this controller is going to be spectacular. All the abilities and potential it has is really exciting IMO.

haha, intleaged.

Yes, the revolution controller has a lumble pack if that is waht you were saying.

A lumble pak? Hullah!

Oh, God, it's so racist AND YET SO RIGHT

...

"My leg-aru!"

...

I wonder how many times Iwata had to practice saying 'Revolution'.

lol

Guys... It's just a controller. :cool:

You know, the thing you move the little digital character around with.

[quote=Vampiro]Which is probably the most important part of a console...
I've yet to see a total faliure of a controller, so I have faith (!). I don't think we have anything to worry about as far as it working goes... But to use it in front of somebody... :cool:

I can totally see some crazy asian going at it.

[quote=Vampiro]We've never seen a true failure because most controllers have been traditional.
True. : /

It comes down to change = bad or good? I tend to like change, but I can't say the same for everyone else.

[quote]Not to mention you didn't mention anything about the controller being a failure or a success, instead brushing it off as if it were not important.
[LEFT][COLOR=mediumturquoise]Wether or not the Rev. controller will be a success? I think it will work well.[/COLOR][/LEFT]

Nintendo has some balls to try something this different. If it sucks, Microsoft and Sony will pick up from there and correct the mistakes. Nintendo will get all crazy mad and make something better. ye

I'd be willing to bet my cat that It'll work. It's got a Directoinal Pad, buttons, and an analog stick. The placement might be a little off in the long rin, but I imagine I'd be able to kick some Nintendo behind with it anyway.

Yeah, you're right - what Nintendo really needs now is some INTENSIVE ergonomics testing, assuming they've not done it yet (which they of course will have, but whatever)

I mean, things like the GameCube's Z button were SORELY misjudged. Microsoft did a similar thing with the XBox pad, but they changed it - Nintendo just sat back and said 'deal with it'. If they do that with the Revolution - say when I shift my hand to use the D-pad I accidentally press the B button, which looks likely - well, I'll cry.

Like how the square button on the psp doesn't work properly, and in response sony's president said "We have designed beautiful machine! You buy! You buy now!"?

The Japanese have trouble pronouncing L, not R. So it'd be "Revorution".

Well, maybe I have dodgy hands, then :)

Well, then, maybe it's ME that's weird, rather than my hands or the buttons.

I just always thought it would be more usefully-placed on the back of the handle where your middle finger rests, like the N64 Z button, giving two shoulder buttons in a more natural place...

No? Okay.

The Z button was never as bad as people made it out to be, it just wasn't perfect. I never understood why they made the C-Stick harder to grip, though.

I really dont think that its that bad of a design. Im glad to see that they are making some changes, unlike the pathetic clone of a console that the Xbox 360 has become. However, I really dont see how they are going to make any games more complex than Mario Bros. with this thing.

[quote=ExoXile]The C-stick had rubber on it, i never had a hard time using it.

I mean why didn't they put the left stick in the place of the C-stick? The C-stick is harder to grip than the left one.

[quote=Vampiro]You want the two sticks switched? Why? The A-stick is fine where it is. Not to mention I've got used to the fact that the main A-stick/D-pad is placed on the left... where it usually is.

As for it being hard to grip, I find the rubber on the c-stick causes less slipping than that of the analogue's.

Nooooo, I want the C-stick replaced with ANOTHER one of the sticks that go on the left. I have no idea why they made 2 different sticks.

The control stick is rubberised too, anyway.

The smaller size of the C-stick's top allows for an ever-so slight increase in the speed one can move one's thumb from the stick to the buttons. Myself, I appreciate this.

Agreed ^

Yes, but they could still have made it ribbed or something, for ease of use, while retaining the smaller size...

Wow I can't believe we're doing this so late in the GabeCube lifecycle.

HAH! good point!

I've never had anything to complain about before.
Why start now?

Gamecube games don't use the Z-button for many things, which is why trying to press it is not a problem.

Because he's a Vampiro, that's why.

This better pull a "The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker" in that it looks awful at first glance but it turns out to be really good thing.

It as originallity in spades... but what's originality without practicality? Never mind, I'll answer that one:

USELESS GARBAGE!!!

I guess if you want to dance around to get your character to do stuff, it'll be great. I can't see myself playing a racing game with it though. Just seeing this has actually made me think "no" about the revolution. I'll just get a Playstation instead.

How exactly WOULDNT this be perfectly suited for a racing game?
You could do the motion turning and such, or you could use a traditional style controller with attachments.

Ok, that settles it, I am DEFINETLY not buying a revolution.

Yeah. Who needs game announcements, or actual experience to determine whether a system is good or bad?

The Prince speaks the truth.

Everyone's missing the point about this in the same way that they did with the DS - the motion control - or the touch screen - doesn't HAVE to be used. I can't imagine why a racing game woudn't work on the Revolution - all you use in most of them is an analogue stick and two buttons anyway, which you get with the console.

L, R you know for drifting, A to go, B to break, X and Y to uses weapons, while drifting toggle joystick left and right to release blue sparks *****es

I don't see what the problem is with holding the controller horizontally to mimic a steering wheel.

I don't care how good or bad people think this system is. Nintendo is the only console making company left that has any innovation. Graphics can only take you so far, and if this system does well, you can bet that the PS4 and XBox 720 (or whatever they'll call it) will follow suit. But if Nintendo does not have a lot of online support: :deadpokem

I find this idea completely stupid and think that it will ruin the way ganes are played, Would you rather use an analouge stick or a remote. If nintendo ruins the home-console gaming they are doomed.

This has nothing to do with me being an xbox fan but I think the only reasonable system to buy would be xbox 360. I know it's a little pricey but its gameplay and graphics are worth it. + I don't want to buy a system with a DVD remote instead of a videogame controller and for ps3, well... They just haven't given me enough evidence or reason to buy it.

Xbox 360? With graphics and gameplay? Half the games i've seen have x-box quality graphics. I will admit there are those games with good graphics for the 360, though. As for the Rev, I personally think it is capable or at least will look like itis capable of having better graphics then the 360. And the gameplay, IMO, is meh.

I'll be happy using a classic controller shell or a remote when i play games, rather than using the same old thing.

Okay, that's a car game. Anyone can make a car look good on a console.

And I'm not saying all the X-box 360 games have pre-gen graphics. That is one of the games that have good graphics.

I think it's more of a Fan remote. My uncle had a fan that had a remote once.

Anyway, I really want to play an FPS on revolution. And some SSB.

I really wish Perfect Dark 2 came out ofr gamecube before Rare was sold or something. But what's worse is they ruined Joanna's look. Sigh. Well, I may buy an X-box 360 when Halo 3 comes out, but I hope it's perfect, unlike Halo 2... It should've had a map editor and better story, etc.
But I digress.
I love Nintendo's controller extension concept. I don't think it will drain my money much because they probably aren't going to make them cost alot (they do have free internet, so why not cheap-costing extensions?). Plus, it's not like every single game will come out with an extension.

[quote]Yeah, cause she looks so fantastic in the N64 version to begin with!
yea she looked good. I still think she looks good.

You know how many people thought that the Super NES controller was doomed, because it had "too many buttons"? Now it seems silly, but people are once again trying to condemn a system without ever actually using it.

Haven't you seen the art of Joanna Dark? The one with the N64 design, only with next-gen style graphics? I liked that better.
[IMG]http://www.maxoe64.com/jeux/fonds/pdark4_800.jpg[/IMG]

We're talking about the Revolution controller, not the massive amount of sequels the XBox 360 is putting out.

I like old Joanna better. Not as whorish.

Agreed. She looks better too. As in sexy. :D
I really want a soul calibur 5 or 6 on revolution.

Keep in mind the newer Joanna is younger than the N64 one. I think she's in her teens in zero, and N64 Joanna looks a bit too mature for a teenager.

Yeah, but still... I don't like the design. But whatever.
I hope Mario Kart online comes out near the launch date.

Nintendo was cool in the SNES era, but then look what happened after that.

I know Nintendo will probably be the inferior graphics console, but I think the games will be or at least look like they are in par with/above 360 graphics, at least for the most part.

They'll look pretty much the same on most TVs (HD TV, contrary to popular belief, isn't owned by most people, and won't be until the start of the generation after next). Much like how a Gamecube can do Rogue Leader but it takes a PC a crapload more power to do the same game.

Plus, also, HDTV isn't all that great. There's still motion blur and jaggy edges, more so than on a CRT.

I hope the Revolution does really good. I have a feeling, though, that the x-box and playstation attract more casual gamers; lots of people at my school who know nothing about gaming and such own anything but a nintendo console.
And how is Nintendo gonna attract nongamers? They'll probably have a good advertising campaign or whatever.

[quote=Wings]Plus, also, HDTV isn't all that great. There's still motion blur and jaggy edges, more so than on a CRT.

You can get HD CRTs, wally.

Didn't know that. I thought all HDTVs were flatscreen.

Hm.

.............................................................

YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HD MONITOR RIGHT NOW, FOOL.

Yes, and oh snap, I have a flatscreen. And I'm not happy with it, either.

Didn't I also say that I didn't know that you could get HD CRTs? Way to rub it in my face.

Aren't all controllers by definition remotes?

[quote=Wings]Yes, and oh snap, I have a flatscreen. And I'm not happy with it, either.

Didn't I also say that I didn't know that you could get HD CRTs? Way to rub it in my face.

Considering CRTs came before flatscreens, what?

Well, all I know is that Wario Ware Revolution will be really fun to play. They could combine the Toucch and Twisted games in one (besides the blowing games). Yeah. I really wanna see some new games for the Rev.

Well, the first TV remotes weren't wireless either. So if you want to get technical and define "remote" as something that lets you control a device from a distance then, yes, all console controllers would count as remotes.

Remote.......Controller.


They're all the same in the end.
They both have the power to controll! :eek:

[URL="http://digitallifetv.com/blogs/digitallifetv/archive/2005/09/20/723.aspx"]Go to this link and watch this episode of Digital Life TV.[/URL] They had Mark Mcdonald from EGM on there talking about it. He was at the Tokyo Game show and used and played the thing. Many, many questions will be answered about this.

For additional reading, [URL="http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782"]go here AND READ the article.[/URL]

Thank you for your time. :D

Does anyone know if the shoulder button is/will be analog, like the gamecube's are?

The B button might be digital, yeah. The shoulder buttons will probably be analog on the Classic Controller Shell.

[quote=Drewboy64]Well, all I know is that Wario Ware Revolution will be really fun to play. They could combine the Toucch and Twisted games in one (besides the blowing games). Yeah. I really wanna see some new games for the Rev.
I dont think they will use Touched games. What would people do, draw on the TV screen?

Yeah. They will definately make a new Wario Ware game, I'm just saying both types of games would be possible.

Z1 and 2 analogue? I doubt it... the Revolution's analogue enough for you, surely? :)

http://cube.ign.com/articles/659/659507p1.html
Revolution in Time Magazine.

The whole excerpt reads: "CONTROL FREAK When it comes to video-game controllers, Nintendo has always been an innovator. Back when Atari and its one-button joystick ruled, Nintendo devised a two-button controll with a directional thumb pad. Then came action-sensitive vibration, wirless connectivity and an analog stick for 360 [degree] steering. Now the company hopes to shake things up with a wireless controller for next year's Revolution console that will allow players to apply real-world physical experience to games. The one-handed grip has motion and position sensors, so if you're playing a Ping-Pong game, you just flick the controller like a paddle. Or, to shoot, take aim and tap a button. For more elaborate games, a second piece with analog stick and two triggers (for that extra itchy finger) can be connected."

You know what? I showed the controller pic and the article at IGN to my friend and her husband yesterday, neither of them visit any forum or gaming site. Now, I'm not saying everyone would do this, but his wife's first reaction to it was "THAT'S the new Nintendo?", to which I replied, "Yes it is." She then said, "COOL, I want one. When does it come out?" as she pushed me aside and very eagerly read the article.

I find it quite interesting as BOTH of them are avid gamers...

haha, cool. I guess the Revolution really will attract non-gamers and such.

It also seems to be attracting [URL="http://cube.ign.com/articles/660/660408p1.html"]third party developers.[/URL]

Hey, I have a question: Does the remote have to have seperate scanners placed under the TV? I keep reading something like that here and there. Is this the case, or does the revolution just pick up the movement alone?

Yes... it will be good AND it will remind people of the old Atari that was a one handed controller it's quite amusing really it can attract old and new gamers alike.

PLATINUM NINTENDO MEMBERS IN JAPAN GET A REVOLUTION CONTROLLER! WHY NOT MEEE??

ur not in japan lol

yea well they get everything first

It's not a controller, it's a universal remote.

However, if this appeared in the Stars Catalogue I know I'd waste all my stars on it :)

It's just a universal remote? Well, last night I had a dream that my dad was working for nintendo (??) and that he brought home a white and silver revolution controller that he told us not to touch. So I stole the silver one. If only that was in real life...

Anyway, what do you think Zelda's controller style will be? Do you think they will use OOT style controls or a swing-the-remote/sword style? My guess is they'd have both styles in seperate games or something. I don't know, though...

Uh, I don't see how it wouldn't transfer - normal mode, analogue stick for movement, remote to look around. In Z-targeting (or L, or B, or whatever it'll be), the remote would slash the sword, and the analogue stick would move Link around the target. Otherwise it works as normal.

Uhh. Just get a picture of the Revolution controller.

Seriously, it looks the exact damn same.


EDIT: But just for giggles:

http://news.spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=9287

Also:
http://www.revo-europe.com/news.php?nid=8489

Oh, I expected there to be different buttons and whatnot. Glad they kept it looking the same.

I wish I had one =(

No ur rite **** JAPAN

You guys are taking it a little too far. No need to **** the japanese. You guys say how they get "cool" things. My friends complained because they released a Golden Colored PS2 in Japan. So what? It's just a different color. I bought a Limited Edition Green Xbox. It was nice but it was really no different from any other Xbox. No Biggie.

So they get something Free... Nintendo is hurting in Japan Home Console wise. Sure they're battering Microsoft in Japan, but Sony has really takin Japan by storm and is holding Japan for themselves. Nintendo needs to bring back the fans. Nice way though.

Stfu, the point is: we're not getting them.

If the Japs don't want to buy their consoles, then why reward them for doing a ****ty job? Give your fans the kickass freebies, ****it!

I, uh... I was sort of joking about ****ing the japanese. But yeah, they get some cool stuff. At least I get mario kart before them :D
And god, that remote would be so fantastic.

Sean Fury wasn't. He'll **** the Japanese given half the chance.

But that's off topic :)

(I wish I had a Rev. Universal Remote.)

So I heard Sean Fury has a leaked Revolution and loads of games for it.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/673/673299p1.html
More to the revolution controller to be revealed. Could he be talking about the controller shell, because they already mentioned that at TGS.

There's more awesomeness to come. :cool:

In another forrum there was discussion about nintendo having more to reveal and someone raised this point. Why is IBM and ATI being so secretive about what they are developing for the revolution? Me thinks because nintendo wants them to be secretive. Someone else said another feature would be A.R.I.E.S.-Augmented Reality Immersion Entertainment System. I have no idea what this is nor have I done any research into the subject but nonetheless.

Augmented reality is pointless for games, really. Unless you fancy going out of your house and walking down the street with a visor on your head, you'd get the same levels all the time.

EDIT: Unless it's like a two-player first-person swordfighting game, or something. But that's one game.

Oh Augmented reality is just that nintendo ON idea again. Ok, yeah thats lame.

Yeah, kind of. It works in theory, but it's not really applicable to games. For surgery, say, it might be better - overlaying an X-Ray of a broken bone over a leg, for example.

Ew. I think it's horrible. LIKE YOUR FACE! Ahahahaahahahahaha!

omg ppl u can play the revolution controller sideways

No ****.

LOL!

O RLY?

%n dont worry I BELIEVE YOU!

what?

wow...bumped so this sh*t from new people!?
OH EM EFF GEE =P
I just like saying that a lot now ^^

[quote=protomanv4]yes u f. re..

What the hell does this mean?

Maybe he lost consciousness as he typed it.

Perhaps he's just extremely ghey?

Eh?

All of'em!

Cept the happy part, EMO alert!

Yes you Phucking Retard is what I got out of it.

Anyway, the main reason why I came to type this post is to point out the absurdity of just about every single SpeedFreak post in existence. For some reason he feels compelled to defend something that is completely unrelated to him, he is trying to compensate for something.

I am done, thank you.

[QUOTE=NightmareBassX]Or he is just on drugs. I mean, i could imagine somebody who is High/drunk or whatever saying that, in a slurred manner.Dude im not high/drunk. I just want to see if u can fugure out what that means!

[quote=Darkbackward]Yes you Phucking Retard is what I got out of it.

Anyway, the main reason why I came to type this post is to point out the absurdity of just about every single SpeedFreak post in existence. For some reason he feels compelled to defend something that is completely unrelated to him, he is trying to compensate for something.

I am done, thank you.

When I defend something it's typically because I agree with it. That tends to have a fair amount to do with me.:cookie2: