gay relations?

I was looking for information about LoZ:TP and in the forrum section a guy posted about the supposed homosexuality of Link. Some one said so what and he said I do it's just sick, and the whole thing quite quickly exploded. Im interested to know, should there be gay relations in vg? We've all played final fantasy where the guy gets the girl, but what if the guy gets the guy?

No that would be gay

First up: Link has a family tree. The Link in one game is the ancestor or descendant of a Link from one of the other games. Therefore, all of the Links get it on with the ladies, even the last one in the timeline, which we see smoochin' with the princess behind the curtain in Zelda II. Link = straight.

Secondly, no, gays should not be represented in video games, or indeed any fiction whatsoever. Their lifestyle is not to be encouraged in such a fashion. A way of detecting and correcting the chemical imbalance in the brain which causes this behavior should be found, and the Earth's atmosphere should be saturated with said cure.

Encouraged or acknowledged? Gays don't take pills to cure their gay in the same way that depressed people balance their brain. No.

And they are expressed, though not all-out, in GTA: San Andreas. I don't have a problem with it.

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lmao :cool:

I do not believe gays are necessary to video games. It can be good for a laugh, or part of the story, but it's not necessary.

No, for the simple reason that I don't want to see that shit, as is the case with the vast majority of gamers.

Hell, seeing heroes get it on with women is annoying enough already, no need to disgust me at the same time.

Gay characters already exist. Tidus anyone? He's the gayest representation you can get.

[COLOR=Yellow]You mean the one who makes out with Yuna?[/COLOR]

I wouldn't play an RPG for 50+ hours with my only drive being the emancipation of my gay lover from the hands of some villian. Plus, the vast majority of the population is not gay, so making such a story would be a bad move. Other than that, there's nothing wrong with representing homosexuals in a game; although I have a feeling it they would pick some overly flamboyant, stereotypical gay man that society loves to mock.

[COLOR=DarkRed][FONT=Papyrus]They have as every right to be in Video games as Straight relations.

'Nuff said[/FONT][/COLOR]

Hey, what about RPGs where you can choose to be gay, huh? Not that Final Fantasy series, though. Games like Jade Empire had plenty of room for that with the whole falling-in-love bit.

Yeah, leave it up to the player. If I were to be totally fair in games, I'd make that feature available. It might not even make it to big games like Final Fantasy because of the "reputation." Companies like BioWare can totally do that.

HEY, I've been playing Zelda games since I was 5 or so, so I am PERFECTLY FINE WITH PLAYING HOMOSEXUALS IN VIDEOGAMES.

Although I don't enjoy it as much as playing the manliest man, that being Kratos. Threesomes give you brownie points. Plus, relating to a game character makes the game better, and I don't think I could relate to a gay guy's feelings for another.

I have no problem with it.

[FONT=Papyrus][COLOR=DarkRed]Why not? Like it or not, It's becoming more open and accepted now, so it's time we started treating them like any other member of the public.[/COLOR][/FONT]

How about non-mandatory gay?

I'm not talking about disabling cutscenes, 'cause that's storyline mandatory gay. I'm talking about choosing your alignment. I think Fable did it. Games like Jade Empire had lots of room for it with the whole "choose your path" thing.

Maybe Taki could get gay with Seung Mina.

But anyway, I wouldn't be against homosexuality in games, but it wouldn't exactly be a "marketing device" or whatever that makes the game unique and cool.

That would steer some people away. But to be given a choice in the matter seems reasonable to attract others.

I have a hard time playing as a female character (go ahead, bombard me) let alone a full blown gay dude. I agree w/ Big Boss, it would be hard to relate to a gay character and to enjoy a game, relating to the character(s) helps a bunch. But here's what I really think.

Homosexuality in the media equals attention. That's the only reason its there. I don't mind the fact that there are gay people, doesn't bother me at all, but I don't want to hear about and/or see it. And yea, Shin-Ra's right, they would use a flamboyant ragin' flamin' homo character if they decided to use a gay dude b/c it wouldn't matter if they didn't. It would just be an afterthought if the character didn't act stoopidly homo.

Every game with gay characters in them should have a "Homophobe" option that, when turned ON, would omit any scenes graphically expressing their sexuality.

Then everyone can be happy! Uberyay!

I was using 'cock-on-cock' action to refer to homosexuality. I says it likes I sees it. Anyways, I don't don't want bum funners discussed in school or seen in school. This goes the same for video game.

If people call me anti-gay I can call them pro-gay. If they're opposites aren't they as useless as each other? Pro-homo ;-*

[quote=Airois]Umm, sexual orientation is genetic. Whether you end up being a homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, etc.. is chosen before you are even born. Do some research on Maslows theory for some evidence. For a smart guy you tend to say some pretty stupid **** every now and then.

Let's try noy to turn this thread into a discussion on the origin of homosexuality. There's a thread for that in the War Board.

[QUOTE=Bebop]If people call me anti-gay I can call them pro-gay.

[COLOR=DarkRed][FONT=Papyrus]You called me, Pro gay, so I naturally assume that you thought I called you Anti-Gay :/.

Lets get back to the topic at hand, eh?[/FONT][/COLOR]

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I think it should be a choice. There are tons of straight gamers out there, me being one of them, they don't want to see two guys making out. On the other hand. There is a growing number of gay people. And I'm sure that seeing a guy and a girl make out might offened them. So I think the gamer should be able to choose how they want there charater to be.

This is where my opinion on games comes in. If I'm playing a game, why the hell would I want to see 2 gay guys (or anyone, for that matter) talking about their relationships? I'm playing a game, not watching a soap opera. I don't care if a gay person is in a game as long as there's not three 20 hour cutscenes detailing his sexual habits and choice of clothes. I quite frankly don't give a shit.

My objection is this: what have they got to offer? If it's hilarious games that involve cracking homophobes over the head with various peices of gay apparel, then sure, bring em on! If it means more cutscenes with even more bullshit that doesn't add to the game whatsoever, then no, stay the hell out of my industry. Allowing such nonsense would be political correctness gone mad.

So what games have openly gay characters that show a relationship?

GTA: SA has NPCs that are homo, but all you see are people holding hands. They could be just friends.

And I'm really not sure if Fable did it.

Bebop does have a point, though, about sex in games being in Mature titles. That's where it should stay, and explicit scenes should be AO.

lesbians are cool, I dont like the thought of "cock on cock action" in my video games. If somebody has got to be gay make it a woman, because everybody likes gay ladies!

[QUOTE=boomstick]Awww, Bebop can't take a little joke like that and you're always the one saying we need more humor around here, guess you can't take it when it's being dissed out to you.

I knew it was a joke you dyke. It still ****es me off how everytime I disagree with something to do with cock munchers people start throwing that bull**** argument around. I have a VERY left wing friend who always says that when I say anything against fags and after hearing that same bullcrap argument for the 100th time it starts to get annoying.

You have to admit, though, you do sound pretty homophobic when you refer to a derogatory term. :|

I'm only using words like faggot, cock muncher, sauage hider, bellend buffer, ball juggler, queer, arse bandit and jolly sailor to annoy people. :) But since when does using derogatory terms make someone a phobic? If I call an asian man a 'paki' that doesnt mean I fear Indian people. Just like if I call someone a 'dirty money stealing jew' it doesnt mean I fear the Jewish faith. People are just too sissy round here :)

Everyone's missed the point. What would be the point in it? Is there currently a demand for gay characters? Would it enhance gameplay in any way, shape or form? Or is it a completely trivial matter that certain people in this thread love bitching about? I think it's that last one.

Speedy's right. There is no use for gays in video games. Gays are usless :)

...boomstick, the fuck are you talking about? Seriously this is like watching a game of golf between a blind man and a guy in a coma. One's missing the point completely and the other isn't even playing.

Making a game where main characters are homosexuals would probably be a bad move for the developers. Not that I'm against homosexuality, but it would deter more gamers from purchasing it than attract. It'd probably be unnecessary, only because sexual orientation shouldn't really serve a purpose in a game.

Why has this topic gone into gay sex in games? Unless it's rated AO, it wouldn't matter. I mean, why would we even have to worry about that?

See, that's when people should start paying attention to me because I'm smart and I know what I'm talking about.

NON-MANDATORY GAY, AS IN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE GAY. It could've worked in Jade Empire, and I think it worked in Fable (though the only thing I saw, or at least remember, was an "orientation" stat). It only works in RPGs as far as I can see, though. I don't see gays pointlessly thrown in Advance Wars or Street Fighter or something.

Vega is a homo. :-*

Vega is gay, gay, gay. He's so pretty, though!

Sim Dating games haven't gone over so well over here in NA. So I doubt a gay one would do much better :p

Maybe in Japan though.

Osito, aren't you the one who suggested his gay? :-*

[COLOR=Yellow]Fate, the only actual gay video game character i know of is Juhani from the first KotOR. If you choose your main character to be a female and keep talking to Juhani she will eventually reveal her love for you and her love for munching on tacos.

Now if you call Vega gay again i will smack you. And that's no lie.[/COLOR]

Vega is the biggest homo ever. But he's cool. Carlos and I watched the Street Fighter animated movie that confirmed his gay. :)

And I didn't know Juhani was gay. Awesome. I ought to check it out.

"Oh, my beautiful face! I'll kill you!" = GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

Or very, very metro.

:)

Good thing. I was about to start a war for him. :-*

[QUOTE=Bebop]So cockiness is an common attribute to gays and bis? I disagree. Just examine the sterotype.

And I disagree with his awesomeness. Aside from being an irritating cliche character his actions are cheesey. I fail to see how that makes bis or gays better than males.

On that note I'm coming up with existing fags in games. I don't think they need any explanation.

I didn't say that cockiness was a common attribute to gays or bis. Reread.

Meh, well, awesomeness is purely a matter of opinion, and uh... wtf? "Bis or gays better than males?" lmao I'll assume you meant that to mean this: "Bis or gays better than straights."

Either way, about what I did say, I was just joking. Don't twist your skirt up your ass over it. :)

Btw, Dante is bisexual at best.

[quote=KoH]your misconception of his cockiness that makes you believe that he is gay or bisexual

Lol stfu ;-*

It's the same thing with hetero love. I mean, it's not necessary to advance in the game, but it's still pretty cool to have a feature like that.

Okay, guys, time to put my newfound mod powers to use.

This is getting out of hand and off the subject. Stay on track, and keep it clean. You have been warned.

Yeah! I mean, it's fair for everyone so people can shut up about it, and the games are awesome (to most people). I liked the whole falling-in-love bit.

[COLOR=Yellow]Now i can't get that shot of Chun-Li's as[COLOR=Yellow]s[/COLOR] in the shower out of my head.

Boooiiiinnnnnggggg

Oops, off topic, sorry.[/COLOR]

Express themselves? Homosexuality isn't normal and shouldntbe expressed to children. If you feel that your sexuality is a huge part of expressing yourself you just be really ugly or have a terrible personality.

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She meant "express themselves by equal representation," if you want to be a ***** about wording. Ever play Jade Empire or Fable? It works in those types of games, where the player can pretty much choose what he or she wants to do. NOT MANDATORY. It's a totally hidden aspect of the game. If ten-year-old Timmy thinks it's fun to pretend to be gay in a game, let him, so long as his parents know what the game is rated.

Now quit it.

Um, Jade Empire has that mean-side/good-side that KOTOR had. There is a falling-in-love bit that is totally optional, and only makes the story richer and more involving. I never tried being a lesbian in Jade Empire, only because I played through it once and I didn't feel like checking it out on my first time.

Fable, though, has an even wider option. I think there was an Orientation stat, but not quite sure. I don't remember too much about it since I only played the surface, but I'm pretty sure you can be gay. Anyways, while the story of Fable keeps going, getting laid and whatnot is optional (think GTA). You can be nice, ugly, skinny, bearded, etc. 100% up to the player, and not forced into people's faces if they don't feel like getting laid in a video game or being attractive to the opposite/same sex.

Oh right. That makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up. It's just that Boomstick isn't very good at explaining.

I don't care what they put into the game about gay relations as long as there isn't a "hot coffee" mod released for it. lol

There are gay people in vgames... But not heroes. Look at the merchants in Shadow Hearts!

As for the hero. I don't think it is wrong, and it's not for me, but I don't think they would make a game like that. Or if they did, it would only be in japanand maybe europe. There is alot of Yoai and Yuri in japan. Gay relations are overlooked there. Most americans look down on it, so unless there is a big change of heart in america, then I think that we won't be seeing a game like that, until future generations get so used to it, that it doesn't matter anymore.

[COLOR=Yellow]OMG! Will it ever end?

Don't even bother replying boomstick. Whatever you say he'll be like "duhhhh, when did i say that you nazi, i don't remember ever saying anything like that, can't you take a jooooke you dyke, duhhhhhhh."[/COLOR]

Yeah, see, that's exactly what I meant with my golf analogy. Bebop is fucking with you (not even playing) and your arguement is bunk anyway (missing).

[quote=Bebop]Pheadophilia isnt normal. Or do you disagree with that?

[COLOR=DarkRed][FONT=Papyrus]For the love of... Pheadophilia is totally different, it is about adults that get their pleasure from abusing childrens individuality.

Are Homosexuals abusing other peoples individuality? No. Therefor, your argument is void :) .
(Waits for even more de-rep from Bebop)
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You guys are straying from the topic about gay relations in video games, not gay relations in general. Get back on it or get out. Final warning.

:-*

I think future systems would be able to hold the wide variety of choices to be made in a game. There ought to be a huge amount of memory in the next generation, and the "gay relations" aspect could turn out interesting.

I thought the Sims did it good!

If you think your character is of the homosexual persuasion, you can see they pursue happiness of the same gender!

Although like the game, the novelty wears off after a while. However if it were done in such a way with possible storylines and things, that would be great.

yeah its a gay thread, how could i not show up

I was saying ditto to say you didn't read my posts. I don't understand where you got "I don't read your posts" from. And, Paul, shut up. I have to sort this out with boomy. She's not reading my posts and not getting my point. I say she doesnt read my posts and she says I admitted to not reading hers. See? WTF? Got to sort this out.

BTW Paul are you gay? I've seen photos of you and got wondering....

EDIT: He knows ;-*

If you want to be gay in games get the Sims, like Netman said. Come to think of it sexuality of any form is hardly given any light in games. And I like that.

[COLOR=DarkRed][FONT=Papyrus]Sorry, I totally missed the meaning of that when I read it before. I've now edited it. [/FONT] [/COLOR]

:rolleyes:

When I was saying ditto, it was merely my saving time and effort to post "I don't even think YOU bothered reading my full posts or you just really don't get it, at all." Ironicly when I posted ditto to say the same thing as you, and mean the same thing as you it ended up with me having to explain this over posts. I don't think your read MY posts fully or understood them. This is what I meant all along by ditto, NOT me admitting to no reading your posts.

[quote]First off, the pheadophillia thing- most pheadophillia is wrong because it is adults abusing children that either- 1. Don't know whats going on or 2. Are too ravaged by hormones to understand what they want.

K, irrelevant.

[quote]Now, In games, any kind of sex scene is un-acceptable in my view. Homosexual, Hetrosexual, pheadophilic... it's all wrong, because it isn't something children should have to witness. We agree on this, Yes?
I agree that sex in any shape or form should not be shown. I have stated this before.

[quote]It should, however, be made clear to who-ever is buying the game, or to the parent of the minor buying the game that it contains scenes of a homosexual nature.

Do you mean like s sticker saying "WARNING contains homosexual activity"? This actually seems offensive to me. This is the difficulty with putting homosexuality into video games. In order to not offend you would need to make sure people are aware its in a game. But say you had a sticker like this on a box, it just ends up looking rather offensive if you know what I mean? If homosexuality was in games it'd probable offend more than help express. I'm sure we'd see more sterotypes than reality.

Netman, can you actally get gay relationships in the Sims? With a mate of mine we tried to. I created myself and Tom created him. We made the characters hug and stuff and become good friends but it never got to a stage where it was obvious there was a gay relationship blooming. Funnily enough, we were able to adopt a child.