Advent Children is gonna suck




Posted by Lord of Spam

Before I begin, let me say that I will ruthlessly ignore any "omg avdwent chilfren is teh coolies!" posts, so dont bother.

It has come to my attention, via several sources at or near the same time, that Square is making a movie based off of Final Fantasy 7. Now, I'm sure there are many fans of the series out there who are rejoicing at this news.

I think I might be the only one who is upset.

For one, Square hasnt really show itself to be competent in the movie making business. Spirits within (which I walked into excited, and out of dissapointed), turned out to be not only a bad movie, but a box office flop. Furthermore, square seems to be falling on its face more often in the Final Fantasy line. The last several Final Fantasy titles were uninspiring sludgefests at best, and actively annoyign at worst. And to top it all off, Squares only foray into the land of sequals was so shameful that I shudder to think of it [Anyone who wants to try to defend X2, go ahead. I could use a good luagh].

So where does that leave me? From my point of view, a company that is know to mess up sequals and movies just told me that they are going to make a movie/sequal to my favourite rpg of all time.

Do I want to see what happens immediately after Sephiroth gets destroyed? Yes. Do I want to know what happened to the world after the lifestream rose up? You beat. Do I wanna see Tifa's boobs? Kinda. But the point is, if I go into this movie expecting great things and walk out dissapointed, I dont think I would know how to take it. I can honestly say, that were this movie to dissapoint me, I would not only not play another Final Fantasy, I wouldnt even play a square game.

It is for this reason that I say this movie will suck. Not as much becuase i have evidence to back it up, but more for my own protection. Square has shaken my faith so badly recently, I cant stand to be let do. So I will go to theaters September 14th (assumign i remembver the release date correctly), and I will walk in and sit down despondant. If I leave no worse than I left, I will see where I go from there. If I leave happy, there is no problem. But if I leave sadder than when I went in, I plan on never playing FF again.




Posted by Crazy K

I like the game, But Frankly I dont really give a **** about a movie based on it...




Posted by Xenos

Honestly, I think Square, at least FF, has beeen rapidly... going downhill. FFX was -okay-, FFXI? No. FFXII looks like a porno magazine. Since when do you fight in a pink skirt? On the note of FFVII: AC, I don't really know what to say. I'm trying my hardest not to be bias because I utterly hate how overrated the root game was. But we all know what is sitting at the back of my mind. A money cow.




Posted by Velvet Nightmare

I agree, but I'm going to keep an open mind about it. Even if it does "suck", I'll be happy knowing that the story is complete, because I think it would be great to see the resolution of the whole Aeris = Lifestream thing, ect.




Posted by Fei-on Castor


Quoting Lord of Spam: [Anyone who wants to try to defend X2, go ahead. I could use a good luagh]

This particular line jumped out at me because it was in brackets. At first, I thought it was referencing X2: X-men United, which I thought was an excellent movie. But since it's about Final Fantasy X-2, yeah, no.

At any rate LoS, I thought TSW looked lame from the beginning. I have yet to see it because it just didn't look good. I love FF games (7 and earlier), but I've never felt that TSW looked to hold true to the standard of excellence to which Square used to measure up. However, watching the trailers and such, I feel that Advent Children is going to be great.

Dirge of Cerebus, however, appears to have a high suck factor. I dunno.

Anime forum? Maybe Movies, or RPGs, but I wouldn't call it Anime...



Posted by Pit

It's not coming out on theaters. It's going straight to DVD and UMD.

What Fei-on said:

The trailers look good. The character animation looks amazing, the detail, the sound, and music is just great. The thing is, this movie has a lot of potentital because it's the first video game movie that actually has to do with the game. Past movie games have followed an approach in which it's similar to the game or just flat out uses that title, but fails to deliver. RE didn't interest me, Doom isn't doing much for me, and other video game movies haven't interested me in the past. At least this looks more than decent.

Oh, and on that note of square sucking on sequels... what about Chrono Cross? And Kingdom Hearts II is shaping up to be far better than the original in terms of gameplay and camera. How the story shapes out, who knows, but the first seems to set up for a good sequel. I mean, KH isn't the greatest game, but it was fun nonetheless, and hands on previews for KH II is nothing but good.




Posted by The Judge

I loved Final Fantasy 7, and though the company has been going downhill as of late, my eagerness to find out what happens outweighs any doubts I have about the movie. I am rarely dissapointed in movies, however, as my expectations for most are not that high, so I doubt I'll be let down.




Posted by Velvet Nightmare


Quoting Fei-on:

Dirge of Cerebus, however, appears to have a high suck factor. I dunno.




I completely agree with that. I see nothing redeeming about the game depite all the hype.



Posted by Fei-on Castor


Quoting Velvet Nightmare: I completely agree with that. I see nothing redeeming about the game depite all the hype.

I've heard it will have a RE style gameplay. Lame then, and lame now.



Posted by The Judge

Resident Evil was never lame. It was classic for what it was. Though, in truth, I prefer RE4 the best.




Posted by Pit


Quoting Fei-on: I've heard it will have a RE style gameplay. Lame then, and lame now.



Too bad RE4 is godly.



Posted by Vampnagel P. Wingpire

I actually forgot about AC until now. I'll still buy it the day it comes out, I suppose, but as other people have all ready stated, I'm not exactly ecstatic about viewing it.




Posted by Lord of Spam


Quoting Pit: It's not coming out on theaters. It's going straight to DVD and UMD.



Fail. It is coming out in theaters, at hte same timein America and Japan.



Posted by Pit

http://psp.ign.com/articles/615/615508p1.html

http://psp.ign.com/articles/629/629888p1.html

Moral of the story. When it comes to gaming news, you don't know more than me.


Fail.




Posted by Arczu

I seriously doubt that this movie will turn out bad.

If anything, I think it will be above average at worst. But of course, people greater than me have been wrong in their wishful thinking. Even if it's not as great, it's still gonna have fans after it..




Posted by Xenos

I'm going to move this to movies. This may be -related- to an RPG game, but it's not an RPG game itself.




Posted by Fate

Whether the movie is bad or not, I don't care. I'm am truly impressed with the way Square has done cinematics. From a computer animation nut, I get jumpy at every screenshot.




Posted by Ant


Quoting Fate: I get jumpy at every screenshot.


aka orgasmic amirite?

I look forward to this movie highly and like the Judge said I doubt this will turn out bad. I might disappointed in one factor of the movie; like a question not being answered or something like that. But otherwise I think It'll turn out fantastic.



Posted by Cloudstud

Im looking forward to it also. But i have that same uneasy feeling of possible dissapointment. I dont want to be soured on how the story is going to turn out. In alot of ways i dont want them to touch FF7 but its hard for me to say no to it also. Its a mixed feeling but i will definitely have to see the movie.




Posted by Vampire Slayer

I'm looking forward to the movie. Not with high hopes of a movie that will leave me breathless. I think that the movie will me medicore at best. As for the future of the Final Fantasy series. I'm kind of hoping that Square will just kill the it. Its been going down hill since FFX. If FFXII doesn't bring back the joys of the older games I strongly believe that the series will die out.




Posted by Sean Fury

I've seen the movie, in Japanese, along with multiple friends of mine. To say it sucked, means you need to get as[I]s raped by the Masamune you fucking n00b. The pure graphical zenith this movie created was beyond that which any CGI movie could ever hope you achieve. By zenith, I mean, the way it stomped FF:TSW's face into the ground on a rusted spork. The way the character's moved, spoke, and interacted with not just each other, but their enviroment was almost an orgasmic experience, and when Sephiroth dawned himself upon those flames like in FFVII I believe my heart stopped momentarily. The only bad thing about this movie was it's music, because they could of done a master piece on it like FFVII, however, they made poor choices when it came to the quality of this.

To reiterate, if you claim this movie sucks without even giving it the time of day, then I believe I will ass rape you with Sephiroth's Masamune my self. You pitiful fools.




Posted by Pit

That's impossible to see it Japanese, as the movie comes out in the US first.




Posted by Sean Fury


Quoting Pit: That's impossible to see it Japanese, as the movie comes out in the US first.

Oh, you mean besides the fact that you can download it online via shareware products?

EDIT: And it doesn't come out in the US first, and I must have an advanced copy then. I mean, I'd love to share it with you, but you're a fag =)



Posted by Pit


Quoting Sean Fury: Oh, you mean besides the fact that you can download it online via shareware products?

EDIT: And it doesn't come out in the US first, and I must have an advanced copy then. I mean, I'd love to share it with you, but you're a fag =)


Fag isn't censored.

And yes it does come out in the U.S. first. Do some research on movies and games before you speak to someone who actually knows what they're talking about. U.S. release date is September 13th and Japanese release date is September 14th. I mean, according to square, the movie isn't even complete yet.

I mean, seriously, sean, come on, sean seriously now, sean, come on now, seriously, sean, come on.



Posted by Sean Fury

Oh okay, find me a site that can hosts over 700 MB and I'll show you it.




Posted by Pit


Quoting Sean Fury: Oh okay, find me a site that can hosts over 700 MB and I'll show you it.


Sean, seriously, come on now, sean come on, seriously, sean, I mean did you even read my post now, seriously, sean, it's like you completely ignored all the facts, I mean, seriously man, I mean, the only details you described about the movies were the ones in the extended trailer, seriously, come on now.



Posted by Sean Fury

Just let me find a way to print/screen this Pit, and then you'll be sorry =)




Posted by Pit


Quoting Sean Fury: Just let me find a way to print/screen this Pit, and then you'll be sorry =)



Oh, if you find a way to print/screen then totally. Though, you know, all you have to do is like print/screen in order to print/screen, you know?



Posted by Sean Fury


Quoting Pit: Oh, if you find a way to print/screen then totally. Though, you know, all you have to do is like print/screen in order to print/screen, you know?

Then my WMA really sucks, because if I try to print/screen something off it, it comes up blank.



Posted by Pit

DUDE, SEAN, IF ADVENT CHILDREN WAS LEAKED, IT'D BE ALL OVER THE INTERNET. I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, YOU DON'T HAVE IT.

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GOD!!!




Posted by Velvet Nightmare

Hey Sean? Guess What?

http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-portable/final-fantasy-vii-advent-children/630463p1.html
http://ff7-2.com/adventchildren_release_dates.php
http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/index.php?showtopic=6402
http://www.medaverse.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1492
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/12/news_6124327.html
http://psp.ign.com/articles/611/611223p1.html
http://www.ff7ac.net/?s=site/releasedate
http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-portable/final-fantasy-vii-advent-children/
http://www.movie-list.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11788
http://www.igniq.com/2005/05/final-fantasy-advent-children-release.html
http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/FF_VII:_Advent_Children_US_Release_Confirmed_4763_3340_0.htm
http://forums.livingwithstyle.com/t63035-latest-ff7-advent-children-news.html
http://psp.ign.com/articles/624/624724p1.html


Oh, and for your screenshot problem?

* Open Window Media Player
* Then go to Tools>Options
* In Options, select the Performance Tab
* Way below you click on the Advanced Button




* Uncheck "Use Overlays'
* Click Ok
* And you are ready.



Now run your movie in any size or screen resolution. Use the standard 'Print Screen Key' Method as described and you have captured a snapshot from your favourite movie on windows media player without using any special software

[CENTER]\/\/INNER: VELVET & PIT[/CENTER]




Posted by Pit


Quoting Velvet Nightmare:
[CENTER]\/\/INNER: VELVET & PIT[/CENTER]


qft



Posted by Lord of Spam


Quoting Pit: http://psp.ign.com/articles/615/615508p1.html

http://psp.ign.com/articles/629/629888p1.html

Moral of the story. When it comes to gaming news, you don't know more than me.


Fail.


My bad, last I knew it was planned for theater release.



Posted by maian

I think it will suck. Game movies tend to dissapoint, and this, I think, will be no exception. It's only an hour long, no?

Somehow, I think a sequal to the "Greatest RPG of all time" should be different.

But thats just me =/




Posted by Pit


Quoting maian: I think it will suck. Game movies tend to dissapoint, and this, I think, will be no exception. It's only an hour long, no?

Somehow, I think a sequal to the "Greatest RPG of all time" should be different.

But thats just me =/



Ummm, no, it's lengthier than that sir.

EDIT: JOKE, HAHA, WHY DON'T YOU ASK SEAN FURY HOW LONG IT IS, ZING ZONG!!!



Posted by Cloudstud

The series may die to you but honestly i dont think the FF series will die no matter what happens with 12. Too many people will play it and love it just because of the fact it is called FF. I think FF is going to be around for a VERY long time.




Posted by Lord of Spam

UPDATE TIME

Yeah, so I saw it. It was okay. The story kinda sucked, but the fights made up for it.. I guess. Overall, it could have been much better and much worse.

Edit:Sean, just die, k?




Posted by Aioros


Quoting Pit: It's not coming out on theaters. It's going straight to DVD and UMD.

What Fei-on said:

The trailers look good. The character animation looks amazing, the detail, the sound, and music is just great. The thing is, this movie has a lot of potentital because it's the first video game movie that actually has to do with the game. Past movie games have followed an approach in which it's similar to the game or just flat out uses that title, but fails to deliver. RE didn't interest me, Doom isn't doing much for me, and other video game movies haven't interested me in the past. At least this looks more than decent.

Oh, and on that note of square sucking on sequels... what about Chrono Cross? And Kingdom Hearts II is shaping up to be far better than the original in terms of gameplay and camera. How the story shapes out, who knows, but the first seems to set up for a good sequel. I mean, KH isn't the greatest game, but it was fun nonetheless, and hands on previews for KH II is nothing but good.

[COLOR=Yellow]Yup, yup, what he said. Yup. If i could, i would give you some rep Pit. Better yet, if i was gay i would hump you. LOLOMGNOTREALLYSTFU.[/COLOR]


Quoting Lord of Spam: UPDATE TIME

Yeah, so I saw it. It was okay. The story kinda sucked, but the fights made up for it.. I guess. Overall, it could have been much better and much worse.

Edit:Sean, just die, k?

[COLOR=Yellow]He's dead, his last post was made like, 2 weeks ago.

BTW, i haven't seen it yet, i'm going to wait for the DVD version.[/COLOR]



Posted by Fei-on Castor

I've watched the Japanese one, and it's really good.

I have no idea what the storyline is, though. But for animation, sound, and such, it's excellent. The storyline seems awesome, from what I can piece together. A lot of twists and turns.




Posted by Pit

The storyline is anything you'd expect from an actio movie. Personally I think it was boring, the storyline, but there was so much more action scenes that belanaced it out that made the movie kick so much ***, I really couldn't care.

Some people will like the story, some will not, some will think meh', but when it comes right down to it, the movies fight scenes were like zomfg i cummed my pants.

And that I did.




Posted by Velvet Nightmare


Quoting Pit: The storyline is anything you'd expect from an actio movie.


I love actio movies



Posted by Spin

I just saw this movie about 10 minutes ago, all in Japanese, had to download the subtitles myself (Thank *** for google). This is honestly the best movie I have ever seen to date, and I see a lot of movies. There were a lot of fight scenes, and the storyline was pretty strong. Anything you'd expect for a game movie. The ending was had a lot of suspense, and the effects were truly mind blowing. 10/10. Get this now!




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Anything you'd expect for a game movie.


Since when do people expect a strong storyline from a video-game-based-movie?



Posted by Richaod


Quoting Vampiro: Since when do people expect a strong storyline from a video-game-based-movie?

Since Super Mario Bros. :-D



Posted by Spin

I'm not the best writer ever :). Was referring to the fight scenes. I believe Bahamut was in there somewhere ^_-




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: I believe Bahamut was in there somewhere ^_-


I don't think you could miss him.



Posted by Velvet Nightmare


Quoting Vampiro: I don't think you could miss him.



Wait, I thought that was Cait Sith?


I'm so lost....



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Wait, I thought that was Cait Sith?


I'm so lost....


Cat Sith is the little crowned cat on Red XIII's back.

Bahamut was the huge winged beast that Kadaj summoned.



Posted by Azusa

I liked the movie. I wasn't expecting much of a plot to begin with, so I wasn't displeased. The fight scenes were gorgeous, and full of fangirl material.
It's definitely worth buying.




Posted by project101

I think the movie will be awsome like the game before it but then again i may be wrong so to hell with what I think right seriously though I thought spirits with in was awsome i just dont think final fantasy when I see it any way this movie will most likley rle total @$$




Posted by Spin

Velvet Nightmare how many times have you seen it? You seem completely obsessed with it :P




Posted by Klarth

Is Cait Sith in the movie?

(hasn't seen it yet, still completing the game)




Posted by Fate

FOR A TOTAL OF TWO SECONDS.




Posted by Klarth

Oh.

Well, that sucks. He's my favourite character. :(




Posted by Velvet Nightmare


Quoting Vampiro: Cat Sith is the little crowned cat on Red XIII's back.

Bahamut was the huge winged beast that Kadaj summoned.


That was a joke. I'm guessing you knew that.



Quoting Spin: Velvet Nightmare how many times have you seen it? You seem completely obsessed with it :P



I've watched it at least one time a day every day since it's release. I watched it three times the day it was ripped onto the net, and missed the next day at school because of it.



Posted by ExoXile


Quoting Velvet Nightmare:
I've watched it at least one time a day every day since it's release. I watched it three times the day it was ripped onto the net.


Same here, just.
I look at snippets, some parts of the movie are AcTuAlLy slow.



Posted by Klarth

Saw it last night. Best CGI movie EVER. Now I want to be an animator.

[quote=Fate]FOR A TOTAL OF TWO SECONDS.
And I'm glad that this was an understatement. He could've had more on-camera (um) action, but it was pretty rad to see him nonetheless.




Posted by Velvet Nightmare


Quoting Klarth: Saw it last night. Best CGI movie EVER. Now I want to be an animator.


And I'm glad that this was an understatement. He could've had more on-camera (um) action, but it was pretty rad to see him nonetheless.


cait sith luv



Posted by Klarth

I was disappointed by the lack of ichor, though. The only blood I saw was when Cloud was stabbed in the shoulder.




Posted by Lord of Spam

There were a few drops when he got shot in the head.




Posted by ExoXile


Quoting Lord of Spam: There were a few drops when he got shot in the head.

DANG!... you got there before me :(



Posted by Cmex28

GUESSS WHAT SUCKAS I SAW THE WHOLE MOVIE ^_^ okay so if u wanna know how the movie was here it goes !!WARNING: SPOILER!! okay the GRAPHICS are friggin amazing, theres like this one part were a friend of Denzel jumps in a puddle and u see friggin crazy as details even in that, so in the grapics i give it a 9/10 only because in the scene with cloud and sephiroth theres a huge black environment and darkness starts to cover the sky, there if u look closely at sephiroths and clouds hair it looks very stuck yet moving left and right. in the STORY i would tell u this, IT SUCKED, the story is this 3 kids come, trying to revive Jenova "mother" and in the process Kadaj turns into sephiroth, also it turns out Rufus, who apperantly died in FFVII, survived and is now almost a good guy, also Reno + Rude make an appearance, and Reno makes up most of the comedy in the movie. so story gets a 1/10 and the reason i dont give it a ZERO is because a 0 would be no story, 1 means a very CRAPPY story. VO was ok, though only in japanese, since it had good acting and a good sense of vocals 4 each character, they even give Caith Seth, who does nothing in the battle sequence, a like old guy voice + Red XII a kinda cartoony older guy voice, so over all VO'S get a 9/10 because, hey for a talking dog + cat i would have expected a little better. so the movie over all is luke warm, its about 1 hour and 40 sum min. long, most of it being fighting. so overall this is a RENT, if your a fanboy buy it, i myself downloaded it so :P ^_^




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: GUESSS WHAT SUCKAS I SAW THE WHOLE MOVIE ^_^


As have most of us. Some have even seen it multiple times over the past month or more.



Posted by Lord of Spam

Yeah, its been out for a while. And as to your analysis, learn to use a simple little device called a period, k thnx.




Posted by Fei-on Castor


Quoting Vampiro: As have most of us. Some have even seen it multiple times over the past month or more.

Fei-on is among the group described here.

And to thread starter, you were wrong.