Episode 3: bad or good?

I know im gonna get flammed for this but i actually didnt like episode 3. The fact that they killed everyone off so quickly was a bit foolish. I woul've liked to seem more about Dooku, he was only in a few parts and one major one in episode 2 and then at the beggining of episode 3 they kill him. Plus the fact that the 3 recent starwars movies have relied on lightsaber fights, killing, space battles, and explosions is just foolish. IV-VI had a major storyline involved whereas I-III focused on just Anikan, Padme, and Obi-wan. How bout some of the old Qi-gon jin as a spirit like obi-wan and yoda in the originals. I know at the end Yoda said he was gonna train Obi to do that but Luke could do it right off. Post your veiws on this movie....

I personally hate Star Wars episodes, however I go and see every movie anyways. I actually enjoyed Star Wars III; the acting of the person who played Anikan was great. The movie informed me a lot of SW series. It's really great.

I really liked it..but then again I'm a Star Wars outsider...that's the first one I've seen.

I thought it was absolutely brilliant, on par with Return of The Jedi. Yes, the universe Lucas created in which the new trilogy is set isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but it's still good. I liked the evolution of the starhips throughout the movie - The Jedi fighters looking like TIE ships, the cruisers at the beginning looking like Star Destroyers, the Corellian Corvettes, the cameo of the Millenium Falcon... The best bits for me would include seeing Wedge Antilles near the end, and when the Star Destroyers appear, Admiral Piett and Grand Moff Tarkin are standing near Palpatine and Vader.

The only bit that I didn't like was the pointless "wipe the protocol droid's brain" sequence... They could have at least killed Threepio off and replaced him with a different C-3PO in IV.

It was a great film! Thing is, being the prequel it is, everyone is going to know how it ends and what happens to who anyway, so when you're a filmmaker faced with that situation there's not much you can do to suprise the audience.

So as the filmmaker you're faced with the question:
'right, I can't suprise the audience cos they're gonna know what's coming, so how else can I get their attention?'

In my opinion they went with this answer:
' well, this is the last real star wars film coming out...ever...! So why not give the people what they want most star wars, namely, lightsabers, lots and lots of 'em. But since the audience will know whose gonna live and die, we need to have a new baddie to die at some point. I mean, I know it don't end happy, but I don't want hundreds of sci-fi convention geeks banging down the doors of MY skywalker ranch demanding an alternate ending when the DVD comes out! We need a darker theme to it, plus climatic clone/wookie battles, gotta have that!! Plus a decent fight stting for Obi Wan and Anakin, not some monochrome space hangar like in episode IV!!'

But I'm going into it too much now. My point is considering the circumstances Lucas and Co. made a pretty ace flick. My only regret is that they didnt use Grevious too well, cos if you saw the Clone Wars cartoons then you'd have seen he's a fearless warrior who uses his feet to fight as much as his fists, but in ep,III he's a bit of a coward. Ah well, ace film though.

let me try to say what i mean again, in my first post i misplaced my words. There are four reasons why i like and dislike episode 3.

Pros
1.Lightsaber fights were as good as ever
2.The space battle at the beggining was cool
3.Greivous appered in it and hes my fav character
4.Jar Jar Binks was in one scene for 1/10's of a second

Cons
1.The wookie battle could've been a bit longer
2.The clones just up and decied to kill the jedi (Whats the story behind that?)
3.In my opinion, Mace was killed too easily by the Emporer
4.The driods sounded really gay, their voices were all high and "silly".

These are just my opinions so anyone who wants to agree or disagree with me plz do so and share your veiw.

1st of its execution order 66 and why not include Palpatine doing that in a movie. The wookie battle was at least 3 min and the only two wookies that were left were the commander and Chewbaca, and the survival of chewbaca is important making the wookie battle important. Mace is a jedi master and he shoul've expeected a cheap move like that from Palpatine. Plus you dont see Anikan getting deformed like Palpatine when he gets hit by force lightning.

the star wars moveez are super. i haven't seen the past 3 episodes, but i, ii and iii were pretty decent. i think, from the three, that epsode ii was the better of them. i realy liked the acting from that christensen guy and mcgreggor to. in episode iii, i was expecting genral grievous to do a lot more. how he was killed wasn't very satisfying either. but he was still cool for teh parts he was in. kind of a loser. the movies are great too watch over again.

In my opinion there is no way episode 2 was better than 3, but whatever floats your boat.

I actually thought Episode III was the best out of the first three of them. Everything was done very well. They had some excellent scenes where Yoda fought Sidious and Anakin vs. Obi One. Those were excellent. The only thing I hated I hated was that Dooku died to early, I was expecting him to die later on and Grevous died by getting lit on fire. I thought he was going to go out in a cooler way like getting split into pieces or something. Other than that the movie was great.

but...there are six movies...?

I watched IV again recently, and Yoda seems way too interested in Luke's mini torch for someone who once owned a lightsaber.

I liked it when they used puppets instead of cgi

Nah CGI works way better. Just try and imagine Yoda's fight scenes with a puppet. It would end up looking like a scene from 'Puppet master' or some crud like that.

When CGI is blatantly obvious it is pretty bad cos you see a CGI elemet in a scene and your mind just won't believe it. This especially sucks when you get a live action actor battling a CG character. When the CG looks out of place your mind wont believe in either CG or live action, the CG cancels it all out.

But when CGI works, boy does it work!! I can't see Star Wars being done any other way. A lot of people probably don't realise how much CGI there is in the new Star Wars films. Pretty much everything in the backgrounds are made up of CGI.

cgi worked well with yoda but in the original 3 i thing the fights looked a little bit better beacuse they were actual people.

Wait, you mean Yoda isn't real?

EDIT: Hannibal King, more like fag master.

General Grievous was bad-ass. :(

He was so much more badass in Clone Wars though. He charged into battle instead of running like he did in Ep. III

Wait, you mean the Clone Wars cartoons, right?

Of course.

the movie was absolutely horrid. The "acting" between padme and anakin was just flat and unbelievable. In the scene where Obi-wan and Anakin fight near the lava, it is blatantly obvious that they are standing in front of a blue screen.

But the worst part, the part that almost made me get up and leave, was when they dissolved the senate. It may not seem that bad, but think about it. In episode IV, Vader announces to some captains (not sure but it might be peitt and tarkin) that the senate has just been dissolved. For this to have happened recently in Iv, but in the end of III, Luke and Leia would have had to go from infant to 20s in about a day.

Thank you, George Lucas. You not only dont respect your fans, you dont even respect your own movies.

(trek>wars)

Didn't one of the books talk about an Imperial senate being formed and disbanded due to the intervention of Kyle Katarn and his stealing of the plans for the Death Star? Different senate, thx

Actually, someone in ep. 4 says "the last remnants of the old republic have been swept away", meaning that Palpatine did not dissolve the senate, but rather, he changed it. It would be impossible for one man to have direct control over that many people, so he kept the senate in tact, but in a different manner. It was no longer a group of legislators, but rather, a group of governors to uphold Palpatine's laws, and keep watch over various systems that he personally could not watch over.

LoS, consider it this way: The old republic is changed into an Empire in episode III, around the same time that Luke and Leia are born. About 20 years later, the last remnants of that old republic are gone. It takes about 20 years from the point when Palpatine announces it until it's finally fully done.

I enjoyed episode II, but only because the story was complete. The dialouge was nill, but the action and the overall plot was ok. I also enjoyed the graphics, which were stunning. Best costume design also seems like an effective award as well.

when i made this thread i thought it wasnt even gonna get half a page...........

Im suprised they didnt use the jedi mind trick in episode 3

I'm pretty sure I'm interpreting this right, but I'll rewatch the old movies to be sure (cant call you all lairs based on 5 year old memories). Either way, the new movies do in fact blow. They lack the creativity and imagination of hte old series, relying more on flash abd bang and special effects. Some of this isnt entirely Lucas's fualt; we know what to expect now, which takes some of hte fun away. However, there is still so muich wrong with the movies. Like I said, the acting was *** awful. Really, truely bad. Anakin and Padme made me want to barf. Not top mention that the enitre republic falls becuase anakin has a bad dream.

Seriously, think about it. If he hadnt have dreamt of Padme's death, he most likely wouldnt have killed Mace, which means that Palpatine dies, which means the clone revolt never happens, which means the Jedi's live, which means back to business as usual. So to recap, dream= death of empire? K thnx no.

Another thing. I get why R2 looks and acts mroe badass in the new movies (better movie making technology), but if they really cared abouthte continuity of the movies, they would have made them closer to the old ones. Its just one more example of them relying on FX in place of good movie making.

The scene in the volcano area also ****ed me off. If the lava was hot enough to burn anakin jsut by him getting near it, why didnt it burn them while they were on the little hover-y things. I get that they had sheild below them, but that wouldnt stop the air around them, which was just as far away as Anakin was when he cuaght flame. Also, would anyone care to explain how he gains all the height when he gets Vader-ized? And dont try to just say "omg they gave him longer laegs lol" If that was all they did, it would have had rather obvious effects on his proportioning, which it didnt. So, explaination, anyone?

And yes, trek>wars. Trek may not have the budget or all the flash and glitz, but it makes up for it by... y aknow... not sucking. (With the exception of Enterprise, which blew big dong.) TOS, TNG, and Voyager were all at least okay, with numerous excellent episodes to each of their credits.

Episode 7+ jedi knight eric cartman=gold

I think that ep.III was ok. I already knew what would happen. I didn't like the lightsaber scenes because it was flash-dim-flash-dim... Like a intergalactic seizure. I thought the part when Anikin was burned and lost his hair was cool. Like he transform from the boy-toy into evil dude. I makes it hard to image Young Anikin in the Darth Vader suit. I also thought scene when he found out padme died was funny. NOOO!!!!... it took away the mysterious-ness of Darth Vader. I like the old 4-6 movies. The story lines where captive and pure.

well, he dreamed she would die like his mom an d thats it. I dont think anyone could predict that what your trying to do to save someone will kill them.

But the reason he died is because he was trying to save her. If he would've just ignored his dreams, she wouldn't have died.

[COLOR=Yellow]I thought episode III was much better than episodes I, II, IV and VI. Empire Strikes Back has always been my favorite, and probably still is (i'll have to see it again), but this one delivered in every way it should have. Ever since i saw the original i've always heard about how terrible the dark side is and all that, but it isn't until you see Anakin's transformation and then him killing future jedi children that you get a feel of what the dark side is really like. Also, my congrats to George for doing absolute justice to Obi Wan by picking the perfect actor to portray him in his prime. Next time you see an old person you think is weird show some repect, because you don't if he was a war-hero in his younger days.

Watching this movie really made me wish it wasn't the last one.[/COLOR]

There are a few rumors.

George Lucas did say that it is up to the fans whether he makes episode 7 or not. He said if episode III grosses super high at the box office, he'll work on episode 7.

One of the rumors is that it has to be the top grossing film of 2005, which it has almost already accomplished. The other is that is has to be the top grossing film of all time, a title currently held by the film Titanic.

So, we all need to go out and see it as many times as we can just to raise the grosses on it and get another movie, you guys.

Well sure it is. I guess we could on for days pointing out stupid holes like that, eh?

I was walking around a mall recently and saw Lego starwars selling up to 100$. WTF! there just **** legos

It has do to with this movie pratically getting out of hand

Something I found great:

Yesterday, I downloaded a ROM of Super Star Wars for the snes. After you meet up with Ben Kenobi, and R2 is giving him Leia's message, she states that Kenobi "assisted her father in the Clone Wars many years back". This could either be intepreted as an inconsistency, or alternatively, a reference to Bail Organa. But even still, I never noticed the Clone Wars being mentioned any other time in the original trilogy. Yay.

I went and saw episode 3 again last night. and in the star wars trivia they had a movie qoute that sad "Thats no moon its a space station" obi-wan kenobi speaking to his dog. ???

Loved it and I understood what was going on although being sober was probably a factor there.

Apart from the odd bad acting (such as between Anakin and Padme and that 'special' youngling with the chubby cheeks), the fuzzy characters where blue screen was clear and a few tinier things I would have preferred e.g. longer Wookie fight, this film rocked my socks.

This was easily the best Star Wars film. The battles and lightsaber duels were wonderful, and the transformation of Anakin into Darth Vader when he had to kill the Padawans and Nute Gunray.

I just like action scenes, especially climactic scenes that are what the movie is all about. I can think of so many movies that I've watched simply because of their action. Freddy vs. Jason, Star Wars: Episode III, Debbie Does Dallas...

What the hell is wrong with the Star Wars casting director department. Why can't they choose a decent child actor?!

If that 'what are we going to do' kid in ep.3 was meant to be mentally challenged, then in that case the casting was spot on :P

But what about that kid who played Anakin in episode 1?! I'm still finding it hard to believe that out of all the kids who auditioned for that role, that great significant role in the first star wars film in 20 years, out of the many, many kids who tried out, they chose HIM!!

George Lucas needs to fire his casting director for that blunder. Or if he chooses these kids he should fire himself :p

I thought Jake Lloyd was sufficient as young Anakin. Certainly better than Christensen as ep 2 Anakin, IMO.

Instead of escaping those kids tried to use the "Blend in with some chairs" force move

You could tell that youngling was the first one to go. Hell,I would killed him anyways. Just for giggles.

i liked it but we alredy knew the ending, what happened to jar jar :( has he gone now?

To bad Anikan didnt finish off Jar jar, that would'ev been GREAT! :)

I thought it was pretty good. And sad too.

It wouldv'e been the coolest if Anakin brutally murdered Jar Jar. :(

Cause he was like, so totally in cahoots with the Neimodians.

Oops, i mest up on my cred to maian

Jar Jar-Anie youza killa mesis padme, i stop youza now
Anikens lightsaber-vwoosh

hannibal king, dude you could have just replied rather than de-repping

but anyways you see jar jar in-between loads of other gungans, and you hear his voice screem we'sa free, so in actuallity you do see him but he's mingled with loads of others, when you read your wheres wally/waldo/wilfred whatever books as a kid you knew wally was in the picture, even if you didnt immiedietly know he was there you may have seen him about 50 times without realising same difference here

[IMG]http://www.mindspring.com/~ernestm/jarjar/jarjar2.jpg[/IMG]
[COLOR=Yellow]"Meesa jar Jar Binks, meesa ruined Star Wars."[/COLOR]

I didn't mind Jar Jar one bit. He was a well developed character that added some stuff to the story.

Episode 3 was very emotional and almost depressing. Im wondering and hoping Lucas will make a side story about Star Wars. Wasnt Shawdows of the Empire supposed to be between Episode 4 and 5 with Dash Rendar?

Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith in my opinion is one of the best movies ever!

sorry baz, i ate too much sugar that day. ill add to your rep as soon as it lets me :)

[URL=http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=episode3]I'd give my opinion of the movie. But, I think MADDOX pretty much sums up my thoughts and then some. I love his movie reviews :-D[/URL]

[COLOR=Sienna]S T A R T R E K [/COLOR][COLOR=RoyalBlue]began as a TV series in the 60s -70s period. Star Trek cinema movies I believe will not stop since a lot of fans around the world want to see more space exploration and the conflict between human and alien seem unstoppable. As for Star Wars, no TV series had started off the space war saga. Will Star Wars movie episodes continue with the next generation of new Jedi because fear that the resurrection of the Sith could happpen all over again.[/COLOR]

Uh wrong thjread buddy, try [url=http://vgchat.com/showthread.php?t=3412]here[/url] instead.

yea im not suprised episode 3 made the most money. Its everybody's last chance to see Star Wars on the cinema screen. And with Star Wars being the cinematic achievement it is, it's an experience I wanna indulge in while I still have the chance!!

The only real reason I can imagine people not approving of this movie though, is due to the fact that it is just too easy to just compare it to the original trilogy. As a movie it's fantastic. It's got great story (a bit 'Shakespeare', but who better to draw a story basis from), greater animation and effects, and better acting and direction. It's just that when people have been anticipating this for over 20 long years since the original trilogy, it don't matter how hard Lucas tries it's gonna be impossible to exceed their expectations, isnt it?

and i still think that kid in episode 1 was totally mis-casted :P. What a terrible excuse for an actor.

Hahahahah, R2D2 was a serious character? Are you high? The characters of C3PO and R2D2 were created mostly for COMIC RELIEF. It doesn't take a Star Wars obsessee to realize this.

Better than Hayden Christensen from ep 2, but not ep 3. He improved quite a bit between those films.

What happened to the mushroom head kid after episode 1, he got a job pullin weeds and picking up ciggarette buts at Skywalker Ranch:p

you go ahead and do that

Within the first 20 min of the movie i could already tell what was gonna happen

truth be told though, what did happen to that kid? Has he actually been in any decent film since episode 1?

Just goes to show how long 'actors' like him last.

Search up "Jake Lloyd"

I distinctly remember him being in "Jingle All the Way".

jingle all the way was in 1996, episode one was 1999. But hes been in nothin worth mentioning since then

http://imdb.com/name/nm0005157/

Info on Jake Lloyd's career.

He was a good actor, I thought. But a lot of good actors go unnoticed. What has Mark Hamill or Carrie Fisher done, worth noting, since Star Wars (apart from J&SB)?

Mark Hamill was actually a really good actor--he's completely opposite from "Luke" in Star Wars. Luke was quiet and thoughtful, Mark was chatty and bubbly.

Well i was dissapointed again from Lucas, but what can you do when he wanted to write, and directed it when he shoudn't have. I did like parts but there were so many plot holes and the bad guys were WAY to weak.

I think it was funny that Clone/storm troopers are revered for the fact that they never miss, but when they fight a hero the cant even touch em' :/

That's a good point. Did any hero in any movie ever get hit by a blaster from anything?

Qui-Gon, Obi Wan, Padme, Luke, Han, Leia, hell, even Lando. They've all had countless blasters fired in their direction, and never have been hit. I can understand the Jedi deflecting the shots, but only Qui-gon and Obi Wan actually did that. Luke never even did.

i think he did once or twice......

i guess the other lesser jedi characters dont escape the blasters though;)

Yeah isn't that wierd? We see in Episode III how at the end the remaining Jedi all get gunned down by the troopers including those that are of Master rank. But later on in episodes IV-VI we see those that don't even have Jedi skills not getting taken out by the countless of shots being fired at them by troopers. And I think Luke only deflects a few. Maybe the trooper's skills got rusty over the years.

Actually, if you look up Mark Hammill's acting career, you'll see tons of movies and tv shows (even a few video games, too). [url=http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000434/]He's been in a lot of voice acting, even before Star Wars.[/url]

Carrie Fisher hasn't done much, but she's still had some big screen work. Check it out:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000402/

As for that thing about Storm Troopers always missing the hero, they don't. Leia got hit with a blast in Episode VI on Endor. I remember because I saw the movie the other day and thought to myself, "Whoa, they actually hit one of the main characters!"

well......there ya go then :P

[Font=Tahoma][Size=2][Color=DarkRed]Its definitely the best out of the recent Star Wars films(Epi. 1&2). I say its good because it has all the good actiony moments, like the fight between Obi-Wan and Anakin. Plus, the actors/actresses didn't seem like wooden puppets(as seen in Epi 1). I think Epi 3 is almost as good as the older Satr Wars(Epi 4-6).[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

I just saw it for the sixth time, last night. Still awesome.

Luke gets hit by a blaster on Tatooine.

...But not by a stormtrooper.

Did the same guy who played Boba Fett also play Jango Fett? I ask because I was watching the older movies and noticed that Boba had the same voice as Jango does, which is weird if you think about it. I know he's supposed to be a clone, but how old was that actor? He only looks about 40 or so in the newer movies.

WIthout reading the ENTIRE thread!! I'm GONNA say GOOD!!! Y? For obvious reasons...

First of all of course the movie would be predictible, we have already see the last 3 movies. But I don't think that it was all that it was hyped up to be. Great movie but not as good as I thought.