Obama wants Free Health Care




Posted by Bebop

Fix my bones....FOR FREE?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MadI2SeyyAs




Posted by junior senior

welcome back bebop




Posted by Jesse Smith

Define 'free.' There'z no such thing as 'free health care!!!'




Posted by WillisGreeny

Tax paid health care, OH NO!!!




Posted by Liquid Gears

Sounds good to me. They should tax beer so I can get checked out for swine flu without paying 300 dollars. =)




Posted by KaRza

If your worried about swine flu, then you really need to practice hygiene.




Posted by Liquid Gears

Hmm?.. How come?.. They predict half of america is going to contract it. I mean yeah every prediction isn't right but just in case, they should give out some health care!




Posted by WillisGreeny

Americans sure do have their priorities in check. "No, Mr. President, I don't want to pay more for movies and electronic toys or gas...I'm not trading my wants for other people's needs." I just love how everyone goes to a townhall thinking they're economy experts.




Posted by Liquid Gears

I personally don't mind extra tax on everyday non essential materials to help out some people who are less fortunate. I don't believe in "they should work for it" type of talk.




Posted by Lord of Spam

1) swine flu has killed (i admit im guessing here) probably not even a hundred people worldwide so far. MAYBE a thousand. Scary? Well, if you think thats scary, youre a ****ing retard, because the common flu that goes around from year to year kills about 30000 annually.
2)socialized healthcare is neither inherently good or bad, just as most other ideas are neither good nor bad. Their success lies in their planning and implementation.

Also, seeing as how most other developed nations (shoutout to western and northern europe) have managed to do pretty well so far with it, i doubt itll break america.




Posted by WillisGreeny

What I want to know is what are the ramification in the job market once there's a public option health care. Seems to me like big corporations that can currently afford healthcare packages are really afraid of smaller competing companies being able to insure their employees through the government. I can understand their concern to a point; but really, if all your corporation has is more start up funds to insure your employees but aren't more effecient in production then you lose. I know it's a bit unoriginal aswell as over-simplified to point at big business and say they're the bad guys, however I think they're probably making bigger waves than anyone else, excluding insurance companies even.




Posted by Shin-Ra

I like the idea of extended healthcare coverage because it'll allow people to go to the hospital and actually pay their bills. From the perspective of a hospital employee, this is to my benefit.


Quoting KaRza: If your worried about swine flu, then you really need to practice hygiene.


Just so you know, you're implying that people get the flu from not washing their hands and not respiratory droplets, when it's both.

[url=http://pandemicflu.gov/faq/swineflu/sf003.html]How it's spread[/url]
[url=http://pandemicflu.gov/faq/swineflu/sf005.html]The virus can live 2-8 hours on a surface[/url]

Washing your hands certainly decreases the risk of contracting the virus, but the risk is still very present.



Posted by fnool

obamas a socialist, which is like what germany done did before america won the war. trade in my guns for healthcare?NO THANKS




Posted by WillisGreeny

yeah, people who think that are stupid.




Posted by fnool

youre opinion is just different than mine,dont discrimate




Posted by Bebop


Quoting fnool: obamas a socialist, which is like what germany done did before america won the war. trade in my guns for healthcare?NO THANKS


Spoiler: Hitler fixed the economy crisis in Germany.

I don't see the problem with a national health care system. There are millions of people who need looking after and I'm all for a global wide, hygienic and healthy jamboree. Whoop!

The main issue with a national health care system is the bizarre notion that you can't have it and private insurance. This lie has been thrown around a lot. Very odd and simply not true.

Another queer tactic is the labeling of Obama as a socialist in a bid to slander the reform by use of the word's connotation. I'm glad no one in England (where there is an NHS) takes Fox News seriously. Even the right wing nuts don't have time for it.

People need looking after. That's what a government does right? Yeah, what's the problem here exactly?



Posted by Lord of Spam

because peoples brains tend to stop working right when rush limbaughs fat stupid mouth starts making noise

its his greatest strength




Posted by fnool

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Posted by fnool

[quote]Liquid Gears disagrees: ...Douche
hahaha oh my ****ing *** i cant believe what this place has come to

you guys are more obtuse than any given regular polygon of five sides or greater




Posted by Lord of Spam

math zing? hxc. also seconding general intellectual decline.

what annoys me the most is that anyone has yet to post a decent rebuttal to the concept of nationalized health care.




Posted by Stalolin

we need those guns

the south is going to rise again at some point out of utter disgust of our lack of christian values




Posted by Shin-Ra


Quoting Lord of Spam: what annoys me the most is that anyone has yet to post a decent rebuttal to the concept of nationalized health care.


Here you go:

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Yes I know this video is very biased towards pro-health care reform because the people interviewed are so incredibly dumb, but it's funny, so get over it. Also this is what a lot of people I've talked to actually think... yeah.



Posted by cool gamer dad

biased, but not too far from the truth. people really are that dumb




Posted by S

Can't say I particularly agree with this form of nationalized health care, but it is definitely a capitalistic approach. Hopefully, at the very least, it will eck out a lot of the problems that are currently plaguing the common man against the health care industry.




Posted by Shin-Ra

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Posted by S

I'd prefer nationalized health care on a whole versus a governmental alternative. The idea is decent in the fact that it drives down the price, like most non-monopoly based businesses ought to (In theory, which obviously doesn't happen. Hey, what's up gas prices?), but it begets demons we've yet to foresee, and won't be able to know for quite awhile. Maybe I'm choosing the demons we know versus the unknown, but I don't trust capitalism to do better by its people than a socialized program.




Posted by Bj Blaskowitz

you can't really use gas prices as an option. It's a global market for a natural resource. You can't really expect the government to play the role of market participator in a global market with a natural resource. If it could, we'd be sh*tting out gold.




Posted by S

Perhaps a bad example then, it just seemed the one that affected the most people. Pharmaceuticals would be a better example then, or perhaps on my own personal local scale, our water distributor. Paying a ridiculous amount more than our neighboring towns, etc, for no real reason.

And we are ****ting out gold compared to the rest of the world.




Posted by Cats Everywhere

[center]Hm. America having a free health care? Sure I'll go with that. My good friend from England chuckles at the sometimes violent protests and outbursts (YOU LIE) about Health Care.

I'd rather pay $65 a month than $350. Kids are included, and all the old people get their medication for free, and I think prescriptions are equivalent of just $12..no matter what it is.

My friend has asthma and had an inhaler..his prescription was $45..so it costs nearly $50 for him..to BREATH. I love you, America.

The only problem I see with it is the 'government getting too much power' thing, which isn't a huge problem for me. Those lies about not being able to choose your own doctor just proves how ignorant some people are about the issue.
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Posted by fjord

i hope you get cancer




Posted by Tyler Durden

Speaking of Cancer; How about the decision from Obama to allow the FCC free reign over the internets?




Posted by Shin-Ra

Explain, because most everything I've seen about it is in regards to net neutrality and how isps cannot block websites or allow certain sites to stream/download information faster - which totally sucks for phone companies. For the internet to remain untouched and a neutral space that's not regulated by companies (the internet itself and the information on it, not the service on the whole) it's one of those legal things that seems like it has to be done to avoid annoying legal loopholes later on.