http://kotaku.com/5205249/nielsen-drops-the-ball-on-console-usage-numbers
[quote]Remember that study of video gamer habits Nielsen released earlier this week showing the Wii in third place and the Playstation 3 in seventh, last even after the GameCube and original Xbox? It was wrong.
Fast Company reports that they've been told that the graph was mislabeled. The real graph, which now appears in the official report and in the image above, shows that the Wii is in second place, after the PS2, for console usage and the PS3 is in fifth place, beating out the GameCube and original Xbox.
interesting.
why is there a link to the creation of a new thread.
LOL, fixed.
xbox 360 triumphs again, semper microsoft
PS24lyfe
Too band handhelds aren;t on here, I would've liked to know where DS and PSP place. And PC, for that matter.
Can't help but wonder how they gather this information, though. Was it a survey with questions like "how many hours a week do you play on X console?". I can't imagine that being particularly accurate.
My breakdown goes something like:
Wii: 30%
360: 30%
GAMECUBE: 15%
N64: 15%
ps2: 10%
ps3: -50%
DS: 50%
That's right. I unplayed the ps3 in order to make room for the DS. Don't ask me how I did it. I don't think I could do it again.
what the **** do you play on your wii
I actually don't know of too many people who still play their PS2's that frequently. I can understad that it would be in first but, it's leading by a quite a bit.
Hmm, I'm going to put handhelds separate from consoles here.
360: 50%
Wii: 35%
GC: 2%
PS2: 3%
DS: 70%
PSP: 30%
In the coming months I can see the 360 gaining more of a lead as I slowly play Smash less and less(if I do) and other new games on the 360 since the Wii doesn't have very many games that interest me.
As for the handheld side of things. Probably stay about the same. Though I do have a lot of PSP games to catch up on. I just prefer the DS over it. More so now that I got a DSi.
[quote=Big Boss;939400][FONT=trebuchet ms]
X360: 12%
PC: 3%[/FONT]
Those are weird percentages to arrive at.
I'd find this survey impossible to answer, what system I play depends entirely on what one game I happen to be playing a lot of. Like, if I were to answer now, it'd be 100% PC due to the odd bout of TF2 and absolutely nothing else. I know next week it'll shift to nothing but 360 when I get my OutRun on. It'd only make sense to approximate over a large period of time, like a year, and no one's going to be able to describe that accurately.
This is probably a horribly inaccurate estimate, but let me guess, just for this year so far.
Wii: 30%
PS3: 25%
PS2: 10% (really ought to be playing more, got lots of backlogged games)
Gamecube: 15%
N64: 5%
Virtual Boy: 5%
SNES: 5%
NES: 5%
N64-NES probably deserve even less percentage, really, all four of them are just one or maybe two old games I sat down to play, but I wanted nice round numbers.
xbox 360: 60%
PC: 25%
DS: 20%
wii: 5%
PS3 - 70% (Disgaea 3, rockband)
PSP - 20% (Prinny)
PS2 - 8% ( KH re:CoM)
Wii - 2% (played Brawl like once for the first time in awhile)
haha wow, I feel like such a Sony fanboy.
DS: 60%
PS2: 35%
GCN: 5%
My DS gets the most play because I pick it up sometimes when I need to kill an hour or so. If I have an entire evening free then I'll continue a game on my PS2, usually. I have 4 good Gamecube games I need to beat, and about 15 for the PS1/2 plus a list of 20 or more future purchases. Honestly I could stick with these consoles be entertained for a really long time, but it bothers me that I'm missing out on the online asspects of the 360 (I enjoy yelling into headsets), as well as games like Oblivion. Unique experiences that can't be emulated anywhere else.
xbox 360: 100%
[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;939765]xbox 360: 100%i was gonna write this but i knew you'd be the only one to appreciate the humor of it but you werent here
semper xbox
but seriously, I've been playing my DS a lot lately. Since december I've played Phantom Hourglass, over 70 hours of world ends with you and 35 hours of GTA Chinatown Wars. Plus GoW II on the PS2 and now Okami.
So it's more like
DS: 45%
Xbox: 35%
PS2: 20%
Xbox 360: 100% ... For at least a year now.
How in the heck is the wii rising? Nothing has come out for that **** in the past year, plus now the wii craze is dying off.
still hot as ever dude. last month it sold, like, 500 thousand units.
Sure seems like the hype has died down, at least where I live. And I sell the things so I can tell. Although I'd like to know how much of that percentage is for wii fit.
a lot probably
Are you ****ing kidding me? lol
Plus, that's this year. That doesn't account for it being more used now. Not to mention most wii owners won't give a **** about A boy and his blob or Arc Rise.
[quote=Prince Shondronai;940081]Wii Motion + with Wii Sports Resort hooooooooooooly **** lmao, gold
*a pile of straws lie sparsely on the ground, prince shondronai grabs wildly at them*
To be fair, Wii's lineup is actually worth looking at this year. It's about as decent as Xbox 360's year 1 or 2 lineup (if only for Sin and Punishment 2 (fuck year)), but it's progress at least. It'll be decent eventually, I suppose.
Eventually? Like, just in time for the next generation of systems? Too late.
360's year 1 lineup was CoD2, Gears, Oblivion, GRAW, Splinter Cell and Rainbow. Which were all really good. The following year was Bioshock, Halo etc etc. So no, Wii's lineup does not compare.
And Viva Pinata!!
That was in the second year. Didn't even bother listing all the big games for that one. I mean, CoD4, Bioshock and Halo 3 are all you need.
GRAW, Portal, Dead Rising (I liked it), Ninja Gaiden, etc. Portal came later, though. Talk about consistency.
>Ubisoft games
>SHOOTAN
I'm pretty pumped for Cave Story, Sin and Punishment, Punch-Out, Monster Hunter Tri and Final Fantasy myself. It's easy to say 360 2006 is better than Wii 2009 when the crucial holiday season is 7 months away and the major industry press event has yet to occur. There should at least be some MotionPlus stuff worth looking at that's yet to be announced.
Really, I'm gauging it on how many year 1 360 titles I own (two (one of which I actually enjoyed)) vs how many 2009 Wii titles I want (four). Short of taking the piss out of the fact that you actually prefer Lego Anything to God Hand all I can really say is this is my opinion.
Come to think of it, why not just compare Xbox 2009 to Wii 2009? Isn't the big in-joke of the year that 360 doesn't have jack?
You know, just because a game has a gun in it doesn't mean they all play the same. :/
Honestly, I know. I always defend Halo and Half-Life 2 from adjectives like "generic" from coursemates, they wouldn't know good level design if it punched them in the balls. I just think it's kind of bulls[COLOR=lightgreen]h[/COLOR]it to say a system had such a great year when there's a stunning lack of variety.
I don't know, just having variety doesn't mean good to me. Maybe it's just me, though. Last few games I played were Fallout 3, Left 4 Dead, Gears of War 2, and Resident Evil 5. All really similar, all really different. :/
Who gives a **** about VARIETY when the games are good. Plus, Gears and Halo are about as different as two games get with a gun involved. Same can be said for CoD.
I mean, I'd rather have shooting games left and right that are really good than variety in the form of wii games that are completely trash.
I like the variety on the Wii. Sure there's a lot of crap, but there's a lot of unique experiences that can't be duplicated on a traditional controller, too. I'm glad I have a 360 for the important HD game releases, but buying a new Wii title excites me just as much as buying a new 360 game.
As for the Wii's lifecycle, though, I still hope Nintendo's first out of the gate for next gen. If they can put together a system more powerful than the ps3 with Wii functionality and maybe a new feature or three (like 3D glasses such as those found in movie theaters for today's CG movies or something), they'll have the opportunity to really stick it to sony and Microsoft.
There's no Wii games to buy.
And honestly, they still haven't proved the usefulness of their controller.
They should just make more games like they have on the DS. All the main games that use just the stylus work out just fine.
PS3: %50
360: %49
WII: %1 (mad world)
Yeah, you'd think they'd look to the DS for game inspiration. I mean, I have a hell of a lot of fun with my DS and those games look like **** all things considered.
50% PC
10% Wii
30% DS
10% PS2
Metroid Prime 3 was a good motion controlled game. But it would've worked as well on a couple of joysticks... so whatever.
And looking at the Conduit... idk. Haven't played it but it honestly looks like it does not improve on joystick controls at all. Which is pretty ****ing pathetic.
I p. much make it my business to ignore news of upcoming games at all times, but yeah, I've heard similar things about Conduit possibly not being up to snuff after all. Will suspend judgment until I get to try it.
When I was but a small child, my family had an Atari 2600. I probably beat any high score there ever was on Spider Fighter, so good was I with that one-button joystick.
Then I received an NES for Christmas after nearly a year of begging for one. The NES, however, came with d-pad controllers that felt clumsy and difficult in my Atari-acclimated hands. "Why can't I play these games with a joystick?" I cried. However, not knowing that there was an NES Advantage stick available, I soon learned to Super Mario Brother like a pro (I Bobbled the hell out of some Bubbles, too) with a d-pad. There are still some games I prefer to use a joystick on, but a vast majority of 2D games are best on a d-pad now.
When the N64 (and Sega Saturn analog controller) arrived, it brought memories of that feeling back to me very vividly. I could barely control Mario on Toys R Us's demo station. Analog control came even easier to me than d-pad control had, though, and the dawn of 3D gaming was a bright one.
Now here's the Wii. Could you play many of the Wii's games with dual-analog sticks? Sure, but Super Mario Brothers could have been played on an Atari joystick if you slapped an extra button on one. If you throw down the Wiimote in disgust when you realize that you're just pointing to where you could easily move a cursor to with analog sticks, you're missing the point and you're cheating yourself of the new experience.
Super Mario Bros. clearly made the d-pad work for you.
What game is the Wii-mote's Super Mario Bros?... That's the problem
Wii Sports? That game that beat out Super Mario Bros. as the best selling game ever?
stupid Ant. I'm talking about the people here, not the world. christ.
SMB1 came packaged with the NES and it's record still stood. Don't see why it would be any different for Wii Sports. Still answers his question either way.
Pretty much a bull**** record. In-box games shouldn't count since they're essentially free.
Hell, they should almost count as more. Considering some people actually bought the **** thing just for that game.
Bull **** answer too since I don't see anybody here completely hooked on motion controls because of wii sports.
Why the **** would people have to be "hooked" on motion controls? It just provides another means of control. And if sales mean anything it would seem as if people prefer the motion control method over traditional methods. However, that don't mean **** if it doesn't have games to back. Which at current, there isn't much to look forward to, and probably why sales are dipping dramactically in Japan.
You're completely off what I'm talking about that it's starting to get funny. I'm referring to people here, specifically people that had played Super Mario Bros. before the Wii. The transistion from the joystick to the d-pad was clear because of Super Mario Bros. for THOSE people, while the transistion from the d-pad to the motion controls isn't so clear because there hasn't been a big wow game to impress the original gaming market.
Case and Point: What you're doing right now proves it. Tell me why you're arguing in favor of the wii-mote if it's so widely accepted by the original market?
To prove a point? idk why I do anything.
It's not that they prefer it, they just don't want to take the time to learn the controller that console gamers have become accustomed to over the years. Seriously, new gamers must be intimidated as all hell just looking at non-Wii controllers. They see Wii commercials that require movement that almost anybody can do and the DS commercials show a taptaptap where the same thing can be said.
It's just ignorance. Not stupidity, ignorance.
I think it's an inability to teach yourself the proper finger movements at the later stages of your life. I honestly don't expect anyone old to be able to figure out how to manipulate two sticks in two different directions without looking down. Not to mention four shoulder buttons and eight face buttons. They're past that stage in their life when that stuff is easily picked up and stored for subconscious use.
Basing this off trying to teach 60 year-olds how to use a mouse and keyboard. I honestly think it's beyond their mental capacity for most of them and even if they do have the ability it's too frustrating an experience to stick with it. And that's for something they need to learn. Not something that's supposed to be fun.
Agreed with everything said in the past couple of posts. Why do you think everyone, even people who would never play any other kind of videogame for any reason, seems to be into Guitar Hero/Rock Band? Because those ****ing controllers are so ****ing cool and anyone can understand how to play them. For the Wii, it's the same: oh, I swing the remote to swing my baseball bat? I can't possibly hurt my brain trying to do that.
I think it's a part of why gaming can still be stigmatized. "Gee, this perplexing controller has, what, eight whole buttons, and you can use all of them perfectly while I'm over here banging on it like I'm trying to play with hooves or something? You must be a huge nerd for spending all of an hour getting used to using this thing." To people who don't play, controllers seem way more complicated and intimidating than they actually are.
It's not really that people who don't play games are stupid or lazy, we certainly never started with the kind of controllers we've ended up with. We started off with NES, Genesis and Gameboys, that's a D-Pad and 2-3 buttons. A controller that simple is actually pretty intuitive because it's so limited. What the Wii remote is supposed to do is give people that same level of intuitiveness without forcing the games to be as basic as Super Mario Bros or Tetris. In terms of controller functions Wii Sports is much deeper than either of those. Whether or not the game itself is simpler or deeper is another matter altogether (it's not, it's actually more complicated and shallower).
But it doesn't matter, because at least when they play it they feel like they can do something. The exact same goes for Guitar Hero, it's little more than extremely expensive eletronic Simon Says with some incredibly vague connection to music, and any retard can play Simon Says.
For some reason I feel like somehow, some way, all those buttons help make an intricate game. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like I'm playing with some ancient controller when I'm on the Wii and it's not fun.
Someday I want to see some really good **** with virtual reality-- the novelty of moving IRL to mimic stuff on the screen (even the mimicking is mostly based on preset animations that you just trigger) isn't exciting to me. Give me something else. Give me 3D with a game built for high def or something. Make me immersed. Make me care. ****, you can sell me a cool peripheral if you want while you're at it.
Saying there needs to be one game to open up the Wiimote's control like Super Mario Brothers did for the d-pad isn't really fair, since Wiimote controls can work so differently from one game to another. WarioWare would come the closest to demonstrating the most examples, though.
People are thinking too much was my point, I think. If you stop thinking "Why couldn't they just do what I think I want?" and open yourself up to just having some fun with the system, it's a lot easier to enjoy it.
[quote=Prince Shondronai;940549]People are thinking too much was my point, I think. If you stop thinking "Why couldn't they just do what I think I want?" and open yourself up to just having some fun with the system, it's a lot easier to enjoy it.give me some games to have fun with it, first.
[quote=Fate;940548][COLOR=skyblue]For some reason I feel like somehow, some way, all those buttons help make an intricate game. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like I'm playing with some ancient controller when I'm on the Wii and it's not fun.
Someday I want to see some really good **** with virtual reality-- the novelty of moving IRL to mimic stuff on the screen (even the mimicking is mostly based on preset animations that you just trigger) isn't exciting to me. Give me something else. Give me 3D with a game built for high def or something. Make me immersed. Make me care. ****, you can sell me a cool peripheral if you want while you're at it.[/COLOR]
Wii games aren't as fun not because they don't use as much buttons, but because they're just plain not as good. There's nothing on the system that stands up to something as simple and well-designed as Gears of War. Even Super Mario Galaxy is chock-full of garbage level design.
That's a big list, but it can be broken apart pretty easily:
[quote=Prince Shondronai;940571]
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Super Mario Galaxy
Metroid Prime 3
Super Paper Mario
Super Smash Brothers Brawl
House of the Dead Overkill
Good games on the Wii that I've played. All relatively enjoyable, though only only Brawl and SMG were particularly outstanding.
[quote]Dragon Warrior Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
Deadly Creatures
Rune Factory Frontier
deBlob
Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
Dewy's Adventure
Zack & Wiki
MadWorld
WarioLand Shake It
Boom Blox
Games on the Wii I'm genuinely interested in playing, but haven't yet.
[quote]MegaMan 9
Trauma Center
Okami
Animal Crossing
WarioWare
Sam & Max
World of Goo
StrongBad's Cool Game for Attractive People
Good games that can be played on other consoles. Not selling points for the Wii.
[quote]
Wii Sports (bowling and golf)
Wii Play (billiards and laser hockey)
Gundam Sensen 0079
BlastWorks
Kororinpa Marble Mania
Kororinpa Marble Saga
Super Swing Golf 1 & 2
Red Steel
House of the Dead 2 & 3 Return
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon
NiGHTS
Lost WindsDon't kid yourself. NiGHTs? Red Steel? lmao
So actually the list - for me, personally - is only 16 games long. I own a Wii and I genuinely want it to flourish, but come on. It's awful.
You can play WarioWare on other systems?
true, you cant play an exact replica of warioware wii on other consoles but its by far the worst entry in the franchise
okami is better on ps2
Huh, I disagree. I really liked Smooth Moves. Plus, wasn't My Life as a King pretty well reviewed? I always wanted to try it.
But other than that, yeah, I agree with you. I feel like I could walk into any Nintendo studio and find all their top developing minds sitting around playing cards or something.
EDIT - crap, now I want to try Wii Okami for myself. Kind of assumed that if they were going to put motion controls in, they'd do it, you know, well, this is the first I've heard that they're not up to snuff.
[quote=Linko_16;940582][COLOR=indigo]Huh, I disagree. I really liked Smooth Moves. Plus, wasn't My Life as a King pretty well reviewed? I always wanted to try it.[/COLOR]the fact you have to pay for the levels separate is Really Gay
I prefer xbox first and then PS3....
hmm some quick pics i took
ps2, ds and psp
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4608/ps2.jpg
ps3
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9662/ps3j.jpg
360
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1432/360x.jpg
wii
http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wiis.jpg
Your Wii library is 3 times the size of mine. What the hell are you playing?
and DS library surprisingly small.
Yeah, what's that about? And why no Monster Hunter? It's like the only game on PSP actually worth having.
Star Ocean sucks, stop playing bad JRPGs, get Monster Hunter!
Ill buy this game monster hunter and give it a shot.
I mean it's the most popular PSP game in Japan and you're the practically the biggest Japanophile on the board, I DON'T UNDERSTAND
[quote=Speedfreak;942145]Star Ocean sucks, stop playing bad JRPGs, get Monster Hunter!
Vampiro: give it three months and you'll be hating on monster hunter, you are a tool
Nah, Vamp would have made a dig at JRPGs too while insulting Speedy. It's his style to make conglomerate insults like that.
Vampiro: No such thing as a good JRPG.
See? Vamp then establishes JRPG's suckage while at the same time indirectly calls Speedy stupid.
