Dragonball Movie




Posted by Speedfreak

There was a thread on this earlier but it quickly turned into some crap about the Matrix so I decided not to bump it.

Anyhoo, what's your thoughts on this? I'm not saying mine yet, but I will say the comments section on any Kotaku news post about the film tends to be a lesson in point missing.

Also, first promo image!

[IMG]http://dbthemovie.com/images/hq.jpg[/IMG]

Face doesn't look too serious but Goku is a young man in the movie after all, they did a pretty good job of hair I reckon.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

IT'S OVER NINE THOUSANDS!!! LOLOL XD RANDUM

We'll probably never get to see it, anyway. :mad:




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

haha, man. that's a bad promo image.




Posted by Speedfreak

Banned in the UK?




Posted by S

GAIJIN SMASH!




Posted by Bebop


Quoting Vampiro V. Empire: haha, man. that's a bad promo image.


It's clearly for a Jap mag. Don't forget that Japanland loves different **** to the West. I'm sure our promo image will be more to our liking.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

You mean our promo image won't feature a horribly boring actor on it in a ****ty, boring costume and stupid facial expression with a lame flare hovering over his hands?

I sure hope so!




Posted by Bebop

This may come as a shock to you, but no one on this planet, especially a Hollywood actor, actually looks like Goku. Didn't people stop *****ing about this type of stuff 5 minutes after it was announced?




Posted by Speedfreak

Yeah, the amount of people who think the actors should be dressed EXACTLY like the characters in the Japanese manga is amazing. There's a very good reason Batman look's fucking stupid in every single film, the art directors consistently fail to realise that some shit doesn't translate directly to real life from comic books.




Posted by Fate

Except for his latest outfit. The new movies pretty much got it down. He's supposed to look like a bat, you know.




Posted by Old_Snake

Bah, Batman has always looked fine in all the movies, outside the infamous Batman & Robin nipple suit. It's not like Goku has a fantastic suit or anything that I ever remember seeing that wouldn't translate to screen, outside his last two Super Saiyan-jin transformations.

Not that that matters, I'm much more worried about the energy projectiles and such will look special effect-wise over unimportant costuming.




Posted by Bebop


Quoting Fate: Except for his latest outfit. The new movies pretty much got it down. He's supposed to look like a bat, you know.


Even in the comic books he's not supposed to look like a bat...



Posted by S

I think this is based on Dragon Ball, Old_Snake, so I doubt they're going to get even close to Super Saiyan and **** like that. Pretty sure this is just where Goku meets Chichi and finds the Dragon Balls. King Piccolo is probably the bad guy.




Posted by Old_Snake

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Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Fate;846385][COLOR=skyblue]Except for his latest outfit. The new movies pretty much got it down. He's supposed to look like a bat, you know.[/COLOR]

...do you even know what bats look like? No matter the movie, the suit always look wrong compared to the comics or especially the cartoon series. There simply aren't any materials in the real world that look or behave like they do in those mediums, much less people with a similar form.

[quote=Old_Snake;846409]I'm just saying I don't think in any of the Dragonball lore, I don't remember seeing Goku costumed in anything fantastic that wouldn't translate like Speedfreak and Bebop have made them out to, outside those two transformations.

I mean really, for the most part he just wears a orange shirt, pants and an undershirt. It's more the way the character is drawn that makes it look implausible. As far as the clothes themselves, I don't see the problem.

He wears a gi, a basic martial arts uniform, the only thing remotely interesting about it are that it looks Japanese but with shaolin monk (chinese) colours.

I wouldn't worry about the special effects, the budget for this movie is bigger than that for The Matrix, and they're obviously saving cash on the actors themselves.

The only real worry I have for this movie is how they portray Dragonball, I hope it'll retain the heroism and strong morals and not simply be reduced to an aggressive, brutal martial arts flick. Half the reason Dragonball is great is the whimsical fantasy and kung fu influence.




Posted by Fate

He's supposed to be a ****ing bat, you guys. The jagged-edged cape and pointy ears kind of play into his name being, you know, BATman. He was designed as a guy in tights. To this day, he is still a guy in tights. If anything, his recent movie translations are the best ones.




Posted by Old_Snake


Quoting Speedfreak: He wears a gi, a basic martial arts uniform, the only thing remotely interesting about it are that it looks Japanese but with shaolin monk (chinese) colours.


Well, didn't know the name, but I still don't think that would be so difficult to translate to the screen on live action, audiences probably won't know what it is, but I don't see it as untranslatable by any means.


Quoting Fate: He's supposed to be a ****ing bat, you guys. The jagged-edged cape and pointy ears kind of play into his name being, you know, BATman. He was designed as a guy in tights. To this day, he is still a guy in tights. If anything, his recent movie translations are the best ones.


Agreed, the suit is suppose to look as much like a bat as the human anatomy will allow or that could be possible to tailor to a human body. Suitable to looking like a combination of a bat and a man



Posted by Slade

Huh, I didn't think it was even debated whether or not Batman looks badass in the latest films. Horned masks = hawt.


I'd laugh so hard if they found some poor guy whose face looks just like Goku's, or who was about the same size as him. And that promo looks extremely... brown, or mahogany, whatever. It'll be interesting to see those characters (in full color!) acting side by side, because as of right now I can't even guess how they'll relate. Not a big fan of Dragonball, but since it's kind of a big deal, I'm looking forward to it.




Posted by Speedfreak

Actually, I put that up for debate, Slade. I think Batman always looks stupid in real life, and unless someone drastically changes his costume for a film he always will do.

[quote=Fate;846556][COLOR=skyblue]He's supposed to be a ****ing bat, you guys. The jagged-edged cape and pointy ears kind of play into his name being, you know, BATman. He was designed as a guy in tights. To this day, he is still a guy in tights. If anything, his recent movie translations are the best ones.[/COLOR]

Okay, we know what bats are and who Batman is, and realise that Batman is supposed to vagely resemble a bat. I'm just saying that when you bring that costume into real life it goes from looking kind of cool (in a dorky comic book kind of way) too looking like the star of some gay, vinyl fetish porno (in a dorky comic book kind of way). I'm speaking as someone who, honestly, doesn't care all that much for comic books. Perhaps he looks super sweet to longtime Batman fans, but from a casual observer's point of view he's a guy in shiny rubber.

But you can get away with it much easier because Batman is a huge part of western culture. Dragonball not so much, so obviously Goku isn't going to be riding on a yellow cloud or taking off 16 year old girls panties, and I doubt Piccolo is going to look identical to how he does in the anime because that would look stupid and would be much less forgivable. They have to tone it down to be more realistic so it actually has appeal outside of the hardcore fans who, apparantly, don't want to see the film anyway.




Posted by Bebop


Quoting Fate: He's supposed to be a ****ing bat, you guys. The jagged-edged cape and pointy ears kind of play into his name being, you know, BATman. He was designed as a guy in tights. To this day, he is still a guy in tights. If anything, his recent movie translations are the best ones.


He's not supposed to look like a bat. He's just based on a bat.

As awful as the film is the original Burton Batman had the best costume probably for Battsy. But Nolans going for whats pluasible over whats cool.



Posted by Fate

No, no, he's supposed to be like a man who resembles a bat. Dark, bats, night, destroyer of evil, etc. He's most definitely supposed to remind you of a bat.

As for DBZ actors looking like their cartoon counterparts, it would be hokey to have a pointy-eared genderless green person running around trying to be serious. He's supposed to be from a different planet, though, so I have no idea what the movie-makers are going to do.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: This may come as a shock to you, but no one on this planet, especially a Hollywood actor, actually looks like Goku. Didn't people stop *****ing about this type of stuff 5 minutes after it was announced?



Quoted post: Yeah, the amount of people who think the actors should be dressed EXACTLY like the characters in the Japanese manga is amazing. There's a very good reason Batman look's ****ing stupid in every single film, the art directors consistently fail to realise that some **** doesn't translate directly to real life from comic books.


Who cares about how similar he looks? He's a ****ty actor and that's a terrible promo poster. Simple. Also, Batman looks pretty awwight in real life, especially the new suits.



Posted by Bebop


Quoting Fate: No, no, he's supposed to be like a man who resembles a bat.


Right. Remind you of a bat by resembling one. That's what I was saying. You said he's supposed to look like an actual bat. There's a difference.

Lol and bats aren't destroyers of evil. Quite sure they fly around eating bugs instead of exposing terrorist cells.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

And yet, tons of people have a paralyzing fear of bats. HUH




Posted by Bebop

So because some people are scared of them bats now have some reputation of being destroyers of evil? Lol what? Some people are scared of mice, I guess they have a repuation of...being destroyers of evil too?

If anything they are attributed to evil rather than good. Wayne chose a Bat because it was his fear, nothing to do with anyone elses.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Wayne chose a Bat because it was his fear, nothing to do with anyone elses.


drr, exactly. But bats have a reputation of scaring the **** out of people, so that's a pretty good costume, isn't it? Better than bunnies or some ****, yeah? It's not that bats are destroyers of evil, just what it means to Bruce and the fact that it happens to work pretty well as a costume.



Posted by Arcadios

Regardless of how crappy it looks I'm gonna go see it with a friend for the ****ing lulz.




Posted by Bebop


Quoting Vampiro V. Empire: drr, exactly. But bats have a reputation of scaring the **** out of people,

Alot of things do.

[quote]It's not that bats are destroyers of evil,
Fate said it, not me.

[quote]just what it means to Bruce and the fact that it happens to work pretty well as a costume.


I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying the choice Wayne chose for the costume has nothing to do with real world phobias and fears of the human race, only his personal fears. The only scary bats I can think of are in vampire stories. And even then it's stretching it.

So to conclude bats do not have a reputation for being feared, or destroyers of evil in our culture at all prior to Batman. :)



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Alot of things do.


Yet, they don't relate to Bruce.


Quoted post: I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying the choice Wayne chose for the costume has nothing to do with real world phobias and fears of the human race, only his personal fears. The only scary bats I can think of are in vampire stories. And even then it's stretching it.


Obviously it has more to do with his own fears than others, but if he had a fear of balloons, I kinda doubt he'd use that as his costume. So, though it's based on himself and not others, it certainly helps people are terrified of bats.


Quoted post: So to conclude bats do not have a reputation for being feared,


You're kidding, right?



Posted by Bebop


Quoting Vampiro V. Empire: Yet, they don't relate to Bruce.
I'm not talking about what Bruce is scared of, just what people are scared of. I made that clear.


[quote]Obviously it has more to do with his own fears than others, but if he had a fear of balloons, I kinda doubt he'd use that as his costume. So, though it's based on himself and not others, it certainly helps people are terrified of bats.

He isn't balloon man because that wouldnt sell comic books. Pretty sure if you were creating a super hero you'd go for the awsome.

Also seeing as Wayne's thought process behind the costume wasn't revealed in the comic book straight away, and that in the early comics Batman wasn't feared just a campo crime fighter, it's fair to say there was no consious decision by the makers to relate to a real world fear at all.

That and he's a bat. Bats aren't scary. Stop being a pussy.


[quote]You're kidding, right?


Spiders have a reputation of being scary. **** cats and dogs do too compared to bats. Bats do not have a repuation of being scary at all. Like seriously at all. How often do people experience bats for them to gather a reputation? How many people have seen a spider up close compared to a bat? How many people have been bitten by dogs compared to being bitten by bats? How many people have had a cat startle them compared to a bat? **** how many people have actually seen a bat out and about? They have as much a reputation of being scary before Batman than pickles. They can give you a black eye if you chuck it hard enough.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Also seeing as Wayne's thought process behind the costume wasn't revealed in the comic book straight away, and that in the early comics Batman wasn't feared just a campo crime fighter, it's fair to say there was no consious decision by the makers to relate to a real world fear at all.


retcon


Quoted post: That and he's a bat. Bats aren't scary. Stop being a pussy.



Quoted post: Bats do not have a repuation of being scary at all. Like seriously at all.


haha, wow. It's the exact opposite. What the hell?



Posted by Bebop

The character may have changed but the points still stand: he wasn't created to be a bat to relate to real life fears becuase it wasn't a big enough thing to consider about the character at the time of birth.

So they're the exact opposite...because they both say how bats aren't scary? Yeh, I see the logic.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: So they're the exact opposite...because they both say how bats aren't scary? Yeh, I see the logic.


I honestly do not see how you can say a lot of people aren't afraid of bats. I mean, bats have always been tied to fears and evil. A lot of old images of Lucifer depict him as having bat wings, and the whole vampire thing goes back for centuries. It's no different than snakes or spiders, people are just afraid of stupid things.



Posted by Bebop

I'm not saying alot of people AREN'T afraid of bats. People are afraid of alot of things. Alot of people are afraid of balloons. Does that mean they have a repuation of being scary?

Bats and demons arent as scary as they used to be. Who actually fears satan nowadays? That was a big fear ageeeeeees ago but in our culture this day and age it's not as big thus they dont have a repuation. It's gone.

Same goes for snakes. Fear of snakes and bats is largly because of the bible but who reads that old thing?

Spiders though. Their top of the list. They're scary. Ugly little buggers and my house is invested with them. Huge one. One WOKE me up one night. I just heard it moving across my Dark Knight poster coincidentally.




Posted by WillisGreeny

Snakes and Spiders:
Actually, the bible probably shaped stories around our preexisting fears of snakes. Cultures that aren't, and weren't, influenced by christianity exibit the same phobias for snakes and spiders that bible-countries do. This, and lots of other evidence, leads to scientists to conclude it's more of an evolutionary trait than a cultural trait.

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As far as I know, you're right on the money about bats. It's a western phobia.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Spiders though. Their top of the list. They're scary. Ugly little buggers and my house is invested with them. Huge one. One WOKE me up one night. I just heard it moving across my Dark Knight poster coincidentally.


being afraid of spiders makes as much sense as being afraid of bats. It only makes sense if the spider can physically harm you, and let's face it, not a whole lot of people live near those things. Plus, I don't think I've met or even heard of a girl that isn't freaked out by bats.



Posted by Sapphire Rose

There are some bats that live in my attic. They sure as hell scare the hell out of the neighbors when they go flying around at night.




Posted by Bebop

You're the only person I've heard even propose the idea that bats are scary in the slightest. It's moe plausable to be more afraid for spiders than bats because aside from being a darn sight uglier you're more likely to see one. Whether or not it will attack you is irrelevant considering the chance of being bitten by a spider, or even a bat, is so small. Fears like this have never been based on any rational thought process anyway.




Posted by Fate

He was created back then like this:

-He has a costume that looks like the silhouette of a bat.
-His headquarters are in a cave.
-Dark costumes are cool.
-He fights crimes mostly in the night, which plays into the whole nocturnal bat thing.

The bat part isn't supposed to strike fear, his entire reputation is. Seriously, if there was a real-life Batman speeding in the streets I'd probably pee myself.




Posted by Skitzo Control

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;846801]being afraid of spiders makes as much sense as being afraid of bats. It only makes sense if the spider can physically harm you, and let's face it, not a whole lot of people live near those things. Plus, I don't think I've met or even heard of a girl that isn't freaked out by bats.
Being afraid of spiders makes a lot more sense! Are you nuts? They are EVERYWHERE. Dr. Vladimir Ovtsharenko said it: you are rarely more than six feet away from a spider at any point in your life. Knowing that one of these (sometimes poisonous) bloodsuckers are so nearby your entire life is a little creepy. Bats, on the other hand? How many of you, honestly, outside of crappy movies, museums, National Geographic, Zoobooks, or whatever, have actually seen a bat up close? I'm out at night a LOT and I can see them silhouetted against the moon, but I've never actually had one up close.
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BACK ON TOPIC

DB movie? I'm curious as to what the storyline will be. I just hope it's not as long and drawn out as the cartoons were. :(




Posted by Sapphire Rose

It'll be a 6 hour movie with roughly 3 hours consisting of "hhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!" *chi wave sounds* "GRAAAAAAAA!" *more chi waves* "KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE- HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE- HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"



Or something to that effect.




Posted by Bebop


Quoting Fate: He was created back then like this:

-He has a costume that looks like the silhouette of a bat.
-His headquarters are in a cave.
-Dark costumes are cool.
-He fights crimes mostly in the night, which plays into the whole nocturnal bat thing.

The bat part isn't supposed to strike fear, his entire reputation is. Seriously, if there was a real-life Batman speeding in the streets I'd probably pee myself.



If there was a real life Kirby I'd **** myself.



Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Skitzo Control;846914]
BACK ON TOPIC

DB movie? I'm curious as to what the storyline will be. I just hope it's not as long and drawn out as the cartoons were. :(

Thanks for that, couldn't stand Vamp's lack of reading comprehension much more.

Yeah, I wouldn't worry about that. The only reason it was dragged out in the anime was because the anime was being made a couple of episodes behind the manga, so 1 manga comic = 1 20 minute episode. Problem was each manga was 12 pages long, sometimes a single panel of mountains illuminated by energy attacks would fill one page. Where they couldn't add attacks or dialog in they had to drag it out.

The film's story is where Goku fights Piccolo right at the beginning of Dragonball. Well, actually that accounts for pretty much all of Dragonball. So the film will probably revolve around him learning how to fight, Piccolo looking for the Dragonballs and Goku and the gang trying to stop him culiminating in a fight to the death at the end. Apparantly they're already working on a sequel and it'd make sense to keep the same villain so perhaps he'll spawn Piccolo Jr at the end too. Speculation is fun!




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Being afraid of spiders makes a lot more sense! Are you nuts? They are EVERYWHERE. Dr. Vladimir Ovtsharenko said it: you are rarely more than six feet away from a spider at any point in your life. Knowing that one of these (sometimes poisonous) bloodsuckers are so nearby your entire life is a little creepy. Bats, on the other hand? How many of you, honestly, outside of crappy movies, museums, National Geographic, Zoobooks, or whatever, have actually seen a bat up close? I'm out at night a LOT and I can see them silhouetted against the moon, but I've never actually had one up close.


It makes as much sense because how many of us live near deadly spiders? Probably none. Both are completely harmless. And hell, being so near spiders constantly should make them less terrifying if anything.

Quoted post:
Thanks for that, couldn't stand Vamp's lack of reading comprehension much more.


Oh please, point out what I'm not getting.



Posted by WillisGreeny

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;846990]

Oh please, point out what I'm not getting.

Everything is your fault, Vamp.

Obviously, Bebop is a perfect writer that explains his points of view flawlessly everytime, so it has to be your reading comprehension that's causing all the problems.

You're also dumb for having the view point of a moron. Afterall, the Speebop duo get to decide what the smart view point is, and we're all suppose to roll over. Do anything besides agree you're wrong, and they'll run a filabuster like marathon of rants that's capabable of detrailing a thread about an upcoming DBZ movie to discussing the vary nature of fear induced by animals.




Posted by Skitzo Control

[quote=WillisGreeny;847014]Everything is your fault, Vamp.

Obviously, Bebop is a perfect writer that explains his points of view flawlessly everytime, so it has to be your reading comprehension that's causing all the problems.

You're also dumb for having the view point of a moron. Afterall, the Speebop duo get to decide what the smart view point is, and we're all suppose to roll over. Do anything besides agree you're wrong, and they'll run a filabuster like marathon of rants that's capabable of detrailing a thread about an upcoming DBZ movie to discussing the vary nature of fear induced by animals.
You fail to realize it wasn't Speedy or Bebop that "detrailed" the thread. Speedy made a very good comparison that got carried away by Fate, Old_Snake, and Bebop. Speedy made a tiny reference and it got jumped on like a bouquet at a wedding. Your sarcasm sucks.
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I didn't catch DB way back then. As a matter of fact, I was never really interested in DB or anime in general, ever. Well, except for Sailor Moon, those chicks were hawt.:p




Posted by WillisGreeny

[quote=Skitzo Control;847144]You fail to realize it wasn't Speedy or Bebop that "detrailed" the thread. Speedy made a very good comparison that got carried away by Fate, Old_Snake, and Bebop. Speedy made a tiny reference and it got jumped on like a bouquet at a wedding. Your sarcasm sucks.
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You fail to realize I was just responding to Speedy's blunt criticism of Vamp's reading comprehension, which I have a heavy suspicion Speedy only said it because Vamp had aruged with Bebop and didn't back down.

Vamp laughed, I laughed, it was a good day.




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=WillisGreeny;847014]Everything is your fault, Vamp.

Obviously, Bebop is a perfect writer that explains his points of view flawlessly everytime, so it has to be your reading comprehension that's causing all the problems.

You're also dumb for having the view point of a moron. Afterall, the Speebop duo get to decide what the smart view point is, and we're all suppose to roll over. Do anything besides agree you're wrong, and they'll run a filabuster like marathon of rants that's capabable of detrailing a thread about an upcoming DBZ movie to discussing the vary nature of fear induced by animals.

And your problem would be seeing arguements where their are none and setting up strawmans. Do you have any f[COLOR=lightgreen]u[/COLOR]cking idea how often I disagree with my brother? I already argued with him over his point on MSN. I just got annoyed by Vamp perpetuating the already stupid arguement.

But for the record, Batman was never supposed to be scary. The choice of a bat is purely because they're active at night, the character was retrofitted with a scary personality. Bats are scary like spiders, but that's not the reasoning behind Batman and it doesn't deal with the core issue that he looks bloody stupid in real life. Do you even realise that's what the entire point was before Fate derailed it by stating the obvious?




Posted by Fate

Quit *****ing. Threads get derailed all the time and the only reason anyone would point it out these days is when a thread gets boring and tired and there is nothing to talk about. To get past everyone's blatant dick-sucking around here, I made a comment in reference to a Batman suit that Speedy mentioned first. It didn't need to carry on from there, but since Bebop is a retard it did.




Posted by Bebop

And your comment was wrong. Remember, you said he was supposed to look exactly like a bat? If you don't want stuff like this to happen stop saying dumb ****. That's as far as your contriubtion went to this derailement. Then on in it was mostly Vamp and I (which compared to previous installments of history was actually quite civillised and polite) as per usual so stop acting as you've been dragged along with it when you've been smuggily sitting outside it only daring to come back in at the end to play your classic "lol I'm done with this I need to save Face" card.




Posted by Fate

He's supposed to look like a bat. He is Batman. You can take the world "look" as literally as you want, but anyone with a brain can easily infer that "look like" can mean "resemble". There's nothing to save face on and you are an idiot. Honestly, if my contribution to the derailment was only that much, why the hell did you carry it on so stupidly?




Posted by Bebop

In this case saying resemble first would have have made things clearer. Discussion with you ended when you clarified, and everything else became a discussion on fear in and around Batman. And it perhaps carried on so stupidly because the comment that sparked it was a stupid one?




Posted by Fate

"Look like" doesn't mean "exactly is". :cookie:




Posted by ItSlaughter

So has it even been confirmed that this movie will see a western release? To me (since there are obviously going to be differences between the hand drawn fantasy world and the real world) it seems that this is the kind of movie that won't find release outside of the East due to fear of low ticket/dvd sells. So does anyone have some solid informantion on a release date that isn't in Japan? I am interested in seeing this movie but I also know that I need to take it with a grain of salt. I mean a cartoon were people shoot energy beams out of there hands, fly through the air, travel through space to strange plants, fight crazy planet destorying monsters all the time, its obviously going to have some serious problems going into film. As for the bad actors that they've picked for the roles, who cares. If its released over here they will most likely dub over the voice acting with shotty American actors. So lets just wait for the film and see what happens.




Posted by Fate

!

I was under the impression that the movie was going to be made for the US.
:/




Posted by WillisGreeny

[quote=Speedfreak;847168]And your problem would be seeing arguements where their are none and setting up strawmans. Do you have any f[COLOR=lightgreen]u[/COLOR]cking idea how often I disagree with my brother? I already argued with him over his point on MSN. I just got annoyed by Vamp perpetuating the already stupid arguement.

Do you even realise that's what the entire point was before Fate derailed it by stating the obvious?

How am I suppose to have any ****ing idea what you are saying to Bebop privately? I'm only going off what I (and others,) have observered on this forum about you and your bro.

It's just when Vamp and Bebop started going at it, you re-emerged into this thread with a slam on Vamp. I saw that as a defencive gesture for your bro, so I did a defensive gesture for Vamp to even the odds. I couldn't care less who actually derailed what.




Posted by S


Quoting Bebop: And your comment was wrong. Remember, you said he was supposed to look exactly like a bat? If you don't want stuff like this to happen stop saying dumb ****. That's as far as your contriubtion went to this derailement. Then on in it was mostly Vamp and I (which compared to previous installments of history was actually quite civillised and polite) as per usual so stop acting as you've been dragged along with it when you've been smuggily sitting outside it only daring to come back in at the end to play your classic "lol I'm done with this I need to save Face" card.


Seemed to me more like you drew out a red herring fallacy and tried as hard as you possibly could to make it the truth and concern of the subject. Know how you've lost an argument? When you've purposefully misinterpreted someone's words and then gone on a tyraid about it without regard to any other subject.

You're the equivalent of a dog foaming at the mouth in an argument. It's so pathetic, it's cute.




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Fate;847176][COLOR=skyblue]Quit *****ing. Threads get derailed all the time and the only reason anyone would point it out these days is when a thread gets boring and tired and there is nothing to talk about. To get past everyone's blatant dick-sucking around here, I made a comment in reference to a Batman suit that Speedy mentioned first. It didn't need to carry on from there, but since Bebop is a retard it did.[/COLOR]

No, it got derailed because you made a completely worthless comment and confused Bebop and Vamp, both often idiots in their own completely unique ways, about what was actually being debated. Threads get derailed all the time because you and Vamp in particular have abysmal reading comprehension skills, and it's well worth bitching about because it ends up turning into 6 pages of inane arguing over something literally no one is interested in. Argh!

But I'm going to pull this thread back on course, damnit.

[quote=ItSlaughter;847195]So has it even been confirmed that this movie will see a western release? To me (since there are obviously going to be differences between the hand drawn fantasy world and the real world) it seems that this is the kind of movie that won't find release outside of the East due to fear of low ticket/dvd sells. So does anyone have some solid informantion on a release date that isn't in Japan? I am interested in seeing this movie but I also know that I need to take it with a grain of salt. I mean a cartoon were people shoot energy beams out of there hands, fly through the air, travel through space to strange plants, fight crazy planet destorying monsters all the time, its obviously going to have some serious problems going into film. As for the bad actors that they've picked for the roles, who cares. If its released over here they will most likely dub over the voice acting with shotty American actors. So lets just wait for the film and see what happens.

Have no fear, the movie itself is a western-made movie. It will be popular because Dragonball Z is absurdly popular in the US, it routinely tops DVD sales charts year after year. It's always been big in Europe, too. The quality of the actors is debatable, I for one don't automatically assume Chatwin is a shitty actor because he's only ever had minor roles. The guy playing Piccolo is very enthusiastic about his role and after watching a few clips of his acting I found on Youtube I'm not really worried.

As for the fighting, it's pretty much The Matrix with energy blasts, it's thoroughly doable in a film.




Posted by Old_Snake


Quoting Skitzo Control: You fail to realize it wasn't Speedy or Bebop that "detrailed" the thread. Speedy made a very good comparison that got carried away by Fate, Old_Snake, and Bebop. Speedy made a tiny reference and it got jumped on like a bouquet at a wedding. Your sarcasm sucks.


Sorry, but you've misread, Fate and Bebop I won't defend, but I simply commented that I disagreed with Speedfreak's comment that implied Goku's or other DB characters costumes were hard to translate to screen. I did mention the Batman suit, but either in agreeing with Fate or just off-comment disagreeing with Speedfreak on Batman's translating to screen and used my own comparison in similar fashion to Speed, but my all my previous posts have stayed at least somewhat on topic.


Quoting Speedfreak: Have no fear, the movie itself is a western-made movie. It will be popular because Dragonball Z is absurdly popular in the US, it routinely tops DVD sales charts year after year. It's always been big in Europe, too. The quality of the actors is debatable, I for one don't automatically assume Chatwin is a shitty actor because he's only ever had minor roles. The guy playing Piccolo is very enthusiastic about his role and after watching a few clips of his acting I found on Youtube I'm not really worried.

As for the fighting, it's pretty much The Matrix with energy blasts, it's thoroughly doable in a film.


The guy playing Piccolo had a semi-recurring role in Buffy and Angel TV series. He was a pretty good actor there, though his character was fairly different.

DBZ DVD are still at the tops of charts? I didn't know that



Posted by Skitzo Control

If "Bodies" is on the soundtrack, I swear to God, I'm going to kick the crap out of whoever I watch it with. That's a promise.




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=WillisGreeny;847231]How am I suppose to have any ****ing idea what you are saying to Bebop privately? I'm only going off what I (and others,) have observered on this forum about you and your bro.

It's just when Vamp and Bebop started going at it, you re-emerged into this thread with a slam on Vamp. I saw that as a defencive gesture for your bro, so I did a defensive gesture for Vamp to even the odds. I couldn't care less who actually derailed what.

That's the conclusion you jumped to, key word being jumped because you made a leap of faith over the metaphorical gap in your evidence.

But I suppose I'm just being a c[COLOR=lightgreen]u[/COLOR]nt with logic here, it probably did look like I was defending Bebop. I thought both of them were pretty wrong and were just bouncing the same lines off eachother, but I went for Vamp first because he was both wrong and annoyingly persistant with being wrong, Bebop was at least right sometimes and had the knowledge and logic to back up about half his arguement.

[quote=Skitzo Control;847388]If "Bodies" is on the soundtrack, I swear to Go[COLOR=white]d[/COLOR], I'm going to kick the crap out of whoever I watch it with. That's a promise.

...in anger of such a crappy song being in the movie, right?




Posted by Fate


Quoting Fate: No, no, he's supposed to be like a man who resembles a bat. Dark, bats, night, destroyer of evil, etc. He's most definitely supposed to remind you of a bat.

As for DBZ actors looking like their cartoon counterparts, it would be hokey to have a pointy-eared genderless green person running around trying to be serious. He's supposed to be from a different planet, though, so I have no idea what the movie-makers are going to do.



This is the post where I got back on topic. The conversation needed not carry on past that point, really, since people got the idea that Batman is supposed to look like a bat-- except for your brother who wanted to carry on that Batman doesn't look like a bat for no reason. I mean, really, come on. Also, reading comprehension had nothing to do with my side comment about Batman's latest suit being cool, considering you were the one that introduced him in the thread in the first place. If you know anything about law, introducing evidence mid-trial opens the floodgates. :cookie:



Posted by Skitzo Control

Speedy:
That, and because that song has been played WAY too much.

Has there been any confirmation on what the storyline will be?




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Skitzo Control;847586]Speedy:
That, and because that song has been played WAY too much.

Has there been any confirmation on what the storyline will be?

Yeah, it's the beginning of Dragonball. It's about where Piccolo was an old, evil man and wanted to **** **** up. Instead of Goku adventuring as a child I think he's just gonna be a guy that knows martial arts and Bulma through school, who then learns from Roshi after Piccolo steals Bulma's Dragonball.

There's a bit about Piccolo from wikipedia:


Quoted post: Marsters explained that this incarnation of the character is "thousands of years old and a very long time ago he used to be a force of good, but [he] got into a bad argument and was put into prison for 2000 years. It got him very angry, and he finds a way to escape and then tries to destroy the world. The cool thing is, anybody who has seen Dragonball knows that Lord Piccolo transforms into a character named Piccolo, and that is a whole other ball of wax. [...] Heroic wouldn't be the wrong term by the end, but it's a long journey."




Posted by Pit

Piccolo is gonna get goku mad, and he's gonna go ssj3 and fukken kamehameha his has oh then spirit bomb man that'll be crazy




Posted by Old_Snake


Quoting Speedfreak:
Have no fear, the movie itself is a western-made movie. It will be popular because Dragonball Z is absurdly popular in the US, it routinely tops DVD sales charts year after year.


I know I said something about this earlier, but do you mind throwing some links or something about this?



Posted by Speedfreak

Wiki it, that's where I've gotten all my info.




Posted by Tyler Durden

Seriously, Speedy-
Justin Chatwin as Goku?

bol.

[quote]Dragonball special effects are being done by Amalgamated Dynamics and Ollin studios. The film will also have the anime style of fighting in Dragon Ball, such as chi energy blasts and the auras. It is unclear if signature moves, such as Goku's Kamehameha or Piccolo Jr.'s Special Beam Cannon, will be used in the film. Other special effects, such as Piccolo's green skin, will also be in the film. The makeup is being done by Ed French and takes a 4-hour process.
What?!
Four hours to make an alien? Seems pretty lazy when considering it took 10 hours to create 'Mystique'.

[URL="http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/8655/_1209366506.jpg"]Has anyone seen this, yet?[/URL]
[URL="http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4577/dsc00017aj5.jpg"]Or this-[/URL]

Oh, and I've read elsewhere of the release date having been as early as 08/15/2008. I hope not, I actually look forward to a live action DB film. And, I would hate for it to turn out like so many bad l/a anime flicks of old, i.e.:
Double Dragon
Fist Of The Northstar
The Guyver




Posted by Roger Smith

Way to ruin a link you american ****ing hero.




Posted by Tyler Durden

**** you, *******-

[IMG]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2307/2303674034_e0e9baaa8b.jpg[/IMG]

Go fap to this shop.. oh an, link's fixed-
*******.




Posted by WillisGreeny

That image reminds me of those old Nintendo Power ads, back in the early 90s.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

haha, such a bad shop.

Actually, it's better than the promo shot, so whatever.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

Man, this film is giving me such a B-movie vibe. Do we even know what Sagas it encompasses?




Posted by Bebop

As long as theres a slight glimpse of the rea-ROCK THE DRAGON DRAGON DRAOGN ROCK THE DRAOGN HOO HA WEEE

*guitar solo*




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

hahahaha




Posted by Old_Snake


Quoting The X: Man, this film is giving me such a B-movie vibe. Do we even know what Sagas it encompasses?


What all sagas where there in the original Dragonball



Posted by Slade


Quoting The X: Man, this film is giving me such a B-movie vibe.

Notice how the film's website is a page on blogspot.

It's slowly turning from "I'm going to see this film," to "I'm going to get totally blazed and see this film." I still really want to see how they do the aliens and the scenery.



Posted by Tyler Durden

I'll probably get smashed before I go see it-
seems like one of those occasions, calling.




Posted by anita

Great episode,its my favorite one..Dragonball is the best-seller manga from Weekly Shonen Jump. Original manga is made up of 42 volumes in a epic story.Dragonball allways kept running on the top of the manga field.




Posted by Tyler Durden

You speak bad Engrish-

teach us master, I take day off.




Posted by Old_Snake


Quoting Speedfreak: Wiki it, that's where I've gotten all my info.


I did that earlier, but never found any info about sales, at least recent sales anyway.

I was somewhat skeptic of DBZ still getting hugely popular in the States. I have no doubt it has a fairly solid fanbase, but I was under the impression that it's overall popularity had dumbed down considerably in the last few years. It rarely comes on TV anymore, that I know of, and I rarely see merchandising anymore. I knew the Seasons have been getting re-released, but I assumed it was just milking the hardcore fans.

I guess I am wrong, though, I mean it does have a 100+ million dollar budget from an American studio, so I guess it still has some amount of popularity to get green lighted with that kind of cash behind it



Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=The X;849461]Man, this film is giving me such a B-movie vibe. Do we even know what Sagas it encompasses?

YES! I've said like three times! It's pre DBZ, towards the end of DB where Goku fights Piccolo. That's the only part of DB where something actually happens anyway.

[quote=Old_Snake;849948]I did that earlier, but never found any info about sales, at least recent sales anyway.

I was somewhat skeptic of DBZ still getting hugely popular in the States. I have no doubt it has a fairly solid fanbase, but I was under the impression that it's overall popularity had dumbed down considerably in the last few years. It rarely comes on TV anymore, that I know of, and I rarely see merchandising anymore. I knew the Seasons have been getting re-released, but I assumed it was just milking the hardcore fans.

I guess I am wrong, though, I mean it does have a 100+ million dollar budget from an American studio, so I guess it still has some amount of popularity to get green lighted with that kind of cash behind it

It's not just America, DB is massive everywhere. It's obviously huge in Japan but it was huge in Europe too before it was ever localised for America. This is as epic a film as Transformers, it's literally the same kind of era for most of the fans. On top of that there's the more recent American fans.

I don't get all the Chatwin hate, I don't remember him being a bad actor or anything. I figure most of it is how he looks. Remember, he's playing
this guy[IMG]http://a457.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/117/m_6903ea83b368e7884b963e1fc49b1970.jpg[/IMG]

not this guy [IMG]http://members.fortunecity.com/mew22/goku28.jpg[/IMG]




Posted by Tyler Durden

I've only seen Chatwin in two films, that I can remember; War of the Worlds, and The Chumscrubber. From what I've watched, I know he's good at playing idiots.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[quote=Speedfreak;850182] [IMG]http://members.fortunecity.com/mew22/goku28.jpg[/IMG]
Playing a domain host would be tricky, even for an actor of his caliber.

I assume your original image was adult Goku.




Posted by Speedfreak

Yeah, he clothes were all torn, he was a super saiyan and he was looking very stern.




Posted by Tyler Durden

[quote=Speedfreak;850782]Yeah, he clothes were all torn, he was a super saiyan and he was looking very stern.

Like this- ?

[IMG]http://www.vegeth.it/immagini2/gall/goku/Goku%20ferito%20%202.jpg[/IMG]




Posted by Bebop

I just popped a big rubbery one




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Tyler Durden;850838]Like this- ?

[IMG]http://www.vegeth.it/immagini2/gall/goku/Goku%20ferito%20%202.jpg[/IMG]


Wasn't the picture I had but it get's the point across. He looks more furious than stern, though.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: I don't remember him being a bad actor or anything.


He was barely more than background noise in War of the Worlds and he was *** awful in that movie where he's basically dead and has to figure out who tried to kill him.



Posted by WillisGreeny

Ah, so that's who Justin Chatwin is! Mr. "I got to kill myself, dad, I just gotta".




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

I HAVE TO SEE THIS... I... HAVE TO SEE THIS



bravo




Posted by Tyler Durden

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;851162]He was barely more than background noise in War of the Worlds and he was *** awful in that movie where he's basically dead and has to figure out who tried to kill him.

The Invisible?
The title explains it all, I stayed away from that garbage for fear that M. Night Shyamalan had something to do with it.


[quote=Speedfreak;850989]Wasn't the picture I had but it get's the point across. He looks more furious than stern, though.

You posted the pic, with Goku before a solid white background-

amirite




Posted by Speedfreak

Yeah that's right.

Oh well, even if Chatwin ain't all that I figure Dragonball being immensely cooler than all the other faggy superhero movies evens it up.




Posted by Bebop

Why are people freaking that Chatiwn may or may not be a bad actor when it's a film based on a show KNOWN for it's crappy dialouge and cheesey acting. Seriously are you expecting Oscar winning performances and a cameo by Tom Hanks? It's going to be as pure popcorn film so what's the big deal?




Posted by TimeSkipz

Boy, I really didn't read the title right. We already have a dragonball movie [IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd178/Rddflag/1360538163_a59a8af948.jpg[/IMG]




Posted by Tyler Durden

[quote=TimeSkipz;851547]Boy, I really didn't read the title right. We already have a dragonball movie [IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd178/Rddflag/1360538163_a59a8af948.jpg[/IMG]

That film is simple ****, nothing more-

hey, go get yourself banned again. It looks good on you.




Posted by tvking


Quoting Tyler Durden: That film is simple ****, nothing more-

hey, go get yourself banned again. It looks good on you.


Naah!! it is not fair you know we all are friends and you told him go and get banned. how could you say? well next time plz skip it.



Posted by Tyler Durden

[quote=tvking;853242]Naah!! it is not fair you know we all are friends and you told him go and get banned. how could you say? well next time plz skip it.

Motioning for the b&-

Vampy, pweeeeeeeeeeeeeeze pwetty pweeze?!




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

okay!




Posted by Tyler Durden

TS, YOU'RE NEXT!!

Now, back on track-
Found this [URL="http://dbthemovie.com/"]link[/URL] to a few pictures and promo stills.

And, here's a [URL="http://www.dragonballmovieblog.net/"]blog[/URL] with some more info and an interesting header theme.

And, [URL="http://www.dragonballcinema.com/"]blah blah blah[/URL]..




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

Is Goku actually gonna wear his traditional Gi in this, or are we stuck with a generic shirt?




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

haha, terrible...




Posted by WillisGreeny

People working at theaters should just hand out dvds. I call straight to video.




Posted by Tyler Durden

[quote=WillisGreeny;853883]People working at theaters should just hand out dvds. I call straight to video.

That's a very sound idea-
I smell fail, here.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[SIZE=7][SIZE=2]Hey guys, it's me! Justin Chatwin! I'm so happy to see you![/SIZE]

:|[/SIZE]




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Hey guys... it's me, Justin Chatwin. I'm so happy to see y-I HAVE TO SEE THIS LET ME GO... I HAVE TO SEE THIS


:|


there we go



Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=The X;853855]Is Goku actually gonna wear his traditional Gi in this, or are we stuck with a generic shirt?

We'll it's pre-Master Roshi so I guess that would be an explanation for the shirt. I think I have seen him in a gi at some point, dunno where I could find the image though. Guess we'll have to wait til next year to find out reall anything about this movie.




Posted by WillisGreeny

[quote=Tyler Durden;854046]That's a very sound idea-
I smell fail, here.

The DBZ movie, or my post?




Posted by Tyler Durden

The former-




Posted by Old_Snake

New poster up for the movie, pretty generic looking, but better than Goku just standing there I guess

[IMG]http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w216/Sgt_Frag/dragonballposterexpo.jpg[/IMG]




Posted by Bebop

Bulma is hawt




Posted by Old_Snake

No blue hair, attraction N/A




Posted by O.T.L

lol , I love goku's hair. I thought goku was wearing a Dragon ball z anime shirt for some reason




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Haha, oh man. Reminds me of the promo **** from the DoA movie. Terrible.




Posted by Tyler Durden

Oh wow-
Chow Yun-Fat as Master Roshi, and Ernie Hudson as Master Mutaito?

Lame..




Posted by WillisGreeny

Is there anything about a sex scene?




Posted by Tyler Durden

Please be some sweet/awesome android sex in thar. Please please-please.. PLLEEEEEEEEEAASSSEEEEE..




Posted by Bebop

I cant imagine Chow Yung being remotely fun as Roshi is in the show. He looks irritated at something in the poster.




Posted by Tyler Durden

[quote=Bebop;857991]I cant imagine Chow Yung being remotely fun as Roshi is in the show. He looks irritated at something in the poster.

Tacky *** shirt, maybe?




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

nah, just the fact that his career has taken such a horrible turn




Posted by Bebop

He never had a career.

Ever.




Posted by Tyler Durden

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;858118]nah, just the fact that his career has taken such a horrible turn

You consider Bulletproof Monk an honest film career?
You're crazy Vamp, ****in' crazy..




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

It was a bad career before. Now it's horrible. Still a step down.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

[IMG]http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/gallery/9/2008/09/medium_2824546062_32e79aff51_o.jpg[/IMG]

dohohohoho, wow

http://kotaku.com/5044692/oh-hollywood-what-did-you-do-to-dragonball

****ed up ****




Posted by Fate

I don't think it'll be bad, just another B movie.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

b movies are bad. It's just whether or not this can be bad enough to be good.




Posted by WillisGreeny

[youtube=u7t01xbimos&feature=related]u7t01xbimos&feature=related[/youtube]




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

well, I lol'd




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

they need to make piccolo hecka greener




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

http://www.scribd.com/full/3282645?access_key=key-2ht0vnywpot49hxy3e1b

holy **** hahahaha

[quote]MAI
(licking her lips)
I'm going to just -- love killing you with your own gun.

BULMA
Then that's gonna be unrequited love, cause it ain't happening *****!

BULMA LEAPS UP AND STARTS BLASTING! MAI LEAPS UP AND STARTS BLASTING AT POINT BLANK RANGE!

LIKE THE "GUN KATA" FROM THE MOVIE EQUILIBRIUM, THEY DUCK AND BLOCK EACH OTHERS PISTOLS LIKE FENCERS. CHINK! CLINK! POW! CHANK! POW! CHINK! CLANK! PISTOLS CLANGING, ROUNDS FIRING. THIS IS SOME COOL ****!




Posted by Speedfreak

Piccolo looks awesome. I'm actually amazed they got him to look remotely like Piccolo without getting into some serious Batman-In-Real-Life s[COLOR=lightgreen]h[/COLOR]it.

EDIT: Is this script real? The first few minutes of the film are vintage Dragonball, I'm amazed how good that was.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

abysmal.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

It's a draft of the screenplay. We haven't established if it's the final one or something earlier in pre-product yet.




Posted by Speedfreak

Read it all. I don't think this is it. The movie is supposed to be the first in a trilogy, but Piccolo doesn't appear in the first third of the script. Was good, though Krillin doing nothing at all was kinda weird.




Posted by WillisGreeny

[quote=Speedfreak;880273] Krillin doing nothing at all was kinda weird.

wtf? Krillin never did anythin except die. Sounds like they got his part down perfectly.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

You're thinking of DBZ. In original Dragon Ball, he was kind of a big deal. He got eclipsed when they started having power level dick-waving contests.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

He was a ****ty character anyways. Same with pretty much every other supporting character/friend of goku's.




Posted by WillisGreeny

I wonder if they'll use the DBZ formula

Formula:

Goku fire Energy ball

BIG BOOM

Smoke fade-in

Somke fade-out

Enemy stands untouched

Goku astonished at out come... once again
(skip ahead)

Goku Power lvl increases after a chant/transformation/memory/fruit/w/e

Goku kills bad guy.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: /fruit/


can't wait to see some big-screen BEANS



Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

HERE'S A SENZU BEAN, ****ING EAT IT




Posted by Speedfreak

Krillin was a great character. You're an idiot.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

yeah, remember that time krillin uhhhh




Posted by Klarth

got hair




Posted by Speedfreak

Came back from the dead and cut off Freeza's tail, cleared out the saiabmen after Yamcha died, threw the first spirit bomb, stopped Vegeta at his ship with a katana...

...destroyed the remote.




Posted by O.T.L

Destructo disk! FTW




Posted by WillisGreeny

Krillin had to reprogram an android to marry him, that's just how undesirable he really was. **** Krillin, and all his supposed "accomplishments". Did he really do anything that any other character couldn't do 10X better? ****, the guy was the contrast-guy. All he did was stand next to Gohan to make him look stronger. In every fight, he was the sports announcer with nothing but blunt observations to say. Why like the commentator?

And the destructo disk? Yeah, that was impressive for a few episodes, but then everyone could do it! It's asif Akira Toriyama was one morning looking at a picture of Krillin and had a revalation.

"omfg, Krillin is the worst ****er amoung my cast of heroes, and I gave him a cool move. Better change that **** quick. Wait! eazy fix! If ****-head Krillin can do it, then technically anyone can!"

Krillin's stupid. I hate Krillin.




Posted by O.T.L

Krillin is cool, its not his fault he's short and human.




Posted by WillisGreeny

yes it is. YES IT ****ING IS.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

he was only there to make goku look like more of a badass and as comic relief.




Posted by Pit

Why is Voldermort in the movie?




Posted by Aioros

[COLOR="Yellow"]Which one was Krillin again?[/COLOR]




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

small bald guy with dots on his forehead




Posted by Aioros

[COLOR="Yellow"]Oh yeah, i always wondered whether he was a midget or not. Yeah he was pretty lame.

And maybe I'm thinking of someone else, but didn't he have hair at one point or another? I didn't follow the series too well.[/COLOR]




Posted by WillisGreeny

Hair was crucial to determining character's strength, which is exactly why Krillin was bald for most of the series.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

frieza, cell and piccolo

OBJECTION




Posted by WillisGreeny

Tails and wings if not hair. THERE!!!




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

maijin buu




Posted by O.T.L


Quoting The X: maijin buu


He had a tentical thing on his forhead, and it was pretty long.



Posted by Speedfreak

General Tao. Androids 16, 17 and 18, Garlic Jr, Nappa, Hercule.

Yes, I am a cunt.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Hercule was a faggot. Worst character ever.




Posted by gorud

My fave movie is Bojack Unbound, I watched it years ago
Dragonball GT is not that good.but the action sequences is still fun to watch. It is a novel approach to the DBZ saga.




Posted by G-Sides


Quoting Vampiro V. Empire: Hercule was a faggot. Worst character ever.


are you kidding me man :( i have so much love for hercule it's almost ridiculous



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

That whole hercule saga was ****ing terrible.




Posted by WillisGreeny

Krillin was already the comic distraction who couldn't do jack ****, so Hercule was useless.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

http://kotaku.com/5057729/live-action-dragon-ball-trailer-successfully-fails

clip of the trailer. Bad quality, but hey, the movie itself looks like **** anyways. I would've never guessed it was Dragonball if the title wasn't there.




Posted by Crazy K

Saw it a day or so ago, and I must say it looks like ****. View trailer [URL="http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2009/DEFGH/Dragonball/trailer.php"]here.[/URL] Clip to more trailers, possibly better quality.




Posted by Fate

I can't see why this movie will suck. Seriously, I just saw Doom last night and it wasn't nearly as bad as people made it out to be.




Posted by WillisGreeny

Well, if you think Doom is good then you'll probably find the Dragon Ball movie good aswell.




Posted by Fate

It wasn't as bad as people made it seem. It felt like a been-there-done-that at the very most.




Posted by Tyler Durden

Doom was garbage because it had a B plot with even worse B list actors.




Posted by WillisGreeny

Expanding on what Tyler just said, Doom is the perfect movie making fumble because it follows the B-film criteria so effortlesly it's hard not to assume Hollywood wanted it to fail.

1. The movie adaptation was WAAAY off the actual game, making a huge emphasis over a serious plot that simply didn't belong.

2. CGI up the yin-yang. Obviously CGI is where too much of the budget went instead of writers, actors, exc. It became frosting on a **** cake.

3. Actors weren't ment to be. I can't say this is entirely the caste's fault (The Rock being a great actor and all...), but none of the characters were likable. For me personally, I hate them to the point of not wanting to watch the movie. I can see what the director thought he was doing; Horror movies make unlikable characters so when they die it's not too disheartening, but in Doom I just didn't give a **** if they lived or died, I wanted my time back from watching it. If you're going to make a serious movie (which is what they tried doing it seemed) you need serious actors...fail.




Posted by G-Sides

dragonball movie looks so ****ing hollywood-ized :/ but then again i didn't really expect anything less. i just hope this movie doesn't show us what we have in store for live action Akira and Cowboy Bebop.




Posted by Tyler Durden

[quote=Iron Koala;890395]Expanding on what Tyler just said, Doom is the perfect movie making fumble because it follows the B-film criteria so effortlesly it's hard not to assume Hollywood wanted it to fail.

1. The movie adaptation was WAAAY off the actual game, making a huge emphasis over a serious plot that simply didn't belong.

2. CGI up the yin-yang. Obviously CGI is where too much of the budget went instead of writers, actors, exc. It became frosting on a **** cake.

3. Actors weren't ment to be. I can't say this is entirely the caste's fault (The Rock being a great actor and all...), but none of the characters were likable. For me personally, I hate them to the point of not wanting to watch the movie. I can see what the director thought he was doing; Horror movies make unlikable characters so when they die it's not too disheartening, but in Doom I just didn't give a **** if they lived or died, I wanted my time back from watching it. If you're going to make a serious movie (which is what they tried doing it seemed) you need serious actors...fail.

Good torch run, buddy.
One major aspect of the film I think the developement crew tried to convey was the release of DOOM 3, rather than a new feature film within the established DOOM series. As made evident with some of the chainsaw senario with a bit of D3 (likeness atleast) demon pressance chucked in not to alienate it too- too much astray. How can you **** up a DOOM flick when you have so many offshoot novelizations and the game series for substantial material. If they continued making DOOM films and actually succeed in making a good one, then I would have to place that first installment as the "Doom 64" of film.




Posted by Fate

I'm aware of the source of the Doom movie. See: Resident Evil movies. The source of the core material didn't really matter when it came to the production of the movie; regardless of the source, it really wasn't that bad because of the stray. Although personally I didn't like the RE movies.

Also, CGI was used minimally! No joke. The most that CGI was used was during the FPS scene, and most of the time the only digital thing was the gun.

Also, it felt like a B movie with B-movie actors. But it wasn't as bad as people made it seem. It wasn't unwatchable or anything.




Posted by Tyler Durden

Oh Fate, it was bad. I can't even bring myself to watch it, and my girlfriend slaps me whenever I bring up the thought of seeing it again. Let alone, buying it to see it again.

[URL="http://arstechnica.com/reviews/other/doom-movie.ars"]Ahem![/URL]




Posted by Fate

I didn't say it was a great movie, I said it wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. I find it to be watchable, at least.




Posted by WillisGreeny

Amazing what's getting passed as watchable these days. . .




Posted by Fate

My favorite movie is also Mortal Kombat. I love dumb fun movies. They don't have to be intricate or deep to make me have fun watching it.

Do you know how HARD I laughed when there was a jump part in the FPS part of the Doom movie? I loved it.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Fate, did you enjoy DoA? Because that's what this movie is starting to look like. DoA with energy balls.




Posted by Tyler Durden

ALL VIDEO GAME FILMS always end up with the same ending = SUCKage!




Posted by Fate

Never saw DoA, but the story of DoA is shallow to begin with so it's not surprising the movie was, too.




Posted by Tyler Durden

DoA has a story?

Boobs with their own laws of physics.
Mixed martial arts with limitations to each art.
Slap in a ninja from certain popular chain of side scrollers for support cast because overall game sucks for eye catching..




Posted by Kyuuketsuki

This movie is going to fail so hard. The teaser just makes it more aware that this movie wasn't suppose to be made. Besides, Piccolo looks like he's a bigger version of Garlic Jr.




Posted by Tyler Durden

Piccolo just looks like major ***, personally he came off as a cheap Joss Whedon vampire extra. Being that James Marsters was Spike and can never shake that ugly look of his.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: DoA has a story?


As much as any other fighter.



Posted by WillisGreeny

Basically character background stories that all converge to a tournament/fight off of some sort, right?




Posted by Tyler Durden

That's how it feels to me, Koa.

Which came first, the Tekken or the egg?!




Posted by addison

I'm really pumped up to watch movie. I have been fan since childhood. and In my personal opinion I feel that animation is more interesting awesome than another anime movies.




Posted by Speedfreak

http://kotaku.com/5106241/dragonball-movie-trailer-is-a-new-kind-of-stupid

Get past the nerds wheezing complaints about canon between puffs of their inhaler and the movie actually (seriously!!!) looks pretty good. It's more serious than the manga but it's not as far removed as The Dark Knight is from the original Batman comics, so I would't call that a legitimate complaint.




Posted by Phantasm

Oh dear ***.

At least Bulma looks somewhat attractive.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Hahaha, holy ****. It looks like it takes itself way too seriously. Thus, looks stupid as hell.




Posted by G-Sides

chadwick looks like he's playing a pretty **** Goku. was glad @ the capsule sequence but the rest looks ridiculous.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

The special effects actually looked way better than I expected, like they actually put money into the product. Which has the negative effect of making it look like a serious movie. Which is very, very bad.

Plus, seeing Goku as a white guy surrounded by asians makes me laugh.




Posted by Speedfreak

Goku is a white guy. I still don't think it's as ridiculous as a grown man in a bat suit killing a clown, but whatever.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

oh right he's an alien.

anyways, it takes a ****ton of skill and talent to make a guy in a bat suit chasing a clown something serious and not laughable. Being serious was never a priority of dragonball if I recall. So instead of being a fun, cheesy movie like the show was this looks stupid and ridiculous.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

why the **** is it subtitled 'evolution'




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;912423]oh right he's an alien.

anyways, it takes a ****ton of skill and talent to make a guy in a bat suit chasing a clown something serious and not laughable. Being serious was never a priority of dragonball if I recall. So instead of being a fun, cheesy movie like the show was this looks stupid and ridiculous.

No skill is required, only a nation of people who have gotten accustomed to the idea that a man in a bat suit isn't a completely ridiculous concept over a period of several decades.

At it's inception Batman was the single least serious thing ever created. Dragonball was always serious when it wanted/needed to be, which towards the end of its run was most of the time (there's no distinction between Dragonball and DBZ in the manga). The movie is based on a relatively serious portion where Goku was a young adult fighting Piccolo.

[quote=The X;912426]why the **** is it subtitled 'evolution'

I have no fucking idea.




Posted by WillisGreeny

[quote=Speedfreak;912432]No skill is required, only a nation of people who have gotten accustomed to the idea that a man in a bat suit isn't a completely ridiculous concept over a period of several decades.


By that logic, everyone should have gotten accustomed to everything that was created decades ago; which clearly not everything did. Man in a bat suit isn't cool: a rich orphan with a vengence problem who learns martial arts and invests his money into beating up bad guys, while also living a double life that doesn't allow him to take credit for all his work, that's what's appealing. That, and all his cool cadgets and ****. And don't forget about the villains! People love Batman villains.

So basically you're saying anybody, no matter their talents, can take something and make it better? Hmmm.

[quote]
At it's inception Batman was the single least serious thing ever created.

So if Batman can be serious, everything can be serious! Disregard the fact Batman's been reinvented quite a few times, and only now have people started to accept a serious version. Ya know, Tim Norton's version of Batman was also serious when it needed to be, depending on what a person considers "needed". Can't wait to see Sponge Bob blow Patrick away for taking his hard earned Crabby Patty Drug money.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: No skill is required, only a nation of people who have gotten accustomed to the idea that a man in a bat suit isn't a completely ridiculous concept over a period of several decades.


No. See: every other batman movie up until Begins. They were all ridiculous and the furthest thing from serious.


Quoted post: The movie is based on a relatively serious portion where Goku was a young adult fighting Piccolo.


thus the problem



Posted by Fate

The movie was bad, but not a gagfest like that Chun-Li movie. It brings out the little kid in you.




Posted by Red

why was Goku's hair never consistent? near the end it looked pretty good but the rest of the movie it wasn't.

the accuracy toward the manga/anime was obviously way off but in a way I kind of liked that, it was almost like a real life take on dragon ball.

some special effects looked ****ty, like him being the ape looked choppy and claymation - like. and the kamehameha being used to revive was ridiculous.

overall not a great movie but I enjoyed it alot, and am more than excited for a sequel.




Posted by Sapphire Rose

I "Haha, oh wow'd" at everything in the movie.

Especially at Piccolo's Frieza-bomb-to-destroy-everything blast and the small assed size of the tournament "stage".




Posted by Speedfreak

Watched the first 20 minutes when someone uploaded it to Youtube.


...Jesus Christ.




Posted by O.T.L

I liked the fight Goku didn't fight in, everything past that was sucky.

kamehameha to revive? WTF?

Well at least someone made a Dragonball movie, hopefully someone else decides to take the movie and make it good.




Posted by Sapphire Rose

How come no one charged up their Ki for like 9 hours?




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: and the kamehameha being used to revive was ridiculous.


this is hilarious.

I assumed no one went to see it, they just pirated it. I hope.



Posted by Stalolin

bojack unbound, world's strongest, and rebirth of fusion are the best dbz movies




Posted by WillisGreeny

you bots don't know what talkn' bout.




Posted by brock9233

I can't wait for the movie man....