Mass Effect + Politics = ****storm




Posted by S

http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/KevinMcCullough/2008/01/13/the_sex-box_race_for_president?page=full&comments=true

Wooooo, if that's not the dumbest thing I ever read, I don't know what is.




Posted by Shade

[quote]With it's "over the net" capabilities virtual orgasmic rape is just the push of a button away.

Hahaha, wow. This is good stuff. But I applaud his courage, it took true bravery to get up on his soapbox while not having a clue what he was talking about.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[IMG]http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080115.jpg[/IMG]

You should read his rebuttal, too. Apparently he has 'gamer-nerd contacts deep in the industry'. Haha, oh wow.




Posted by Crazy K

So is there even sex in the game?




Posted by Zeta

There's sex in every game.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[quote=Crazy K;805554]So is there even sex in the game?
Sorta... I've seen the man/alien and woman/alien scenes on two playthroughs now. No pensises. No va-jay-jays. No bewbs. Just a split second *** shot and some caressing. Less than what was in *** of War or Duke Nukem way back in the 90s.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Yeah, it's like what you see in most movies more or less. Mostly back, some rolling around, lots of quick cuts and that's it.




Posted by Shin-Ra

Here's the scene. If it was obscene, then I wouldn't show it here. It's PG at the worst.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/129194.html

Apparently Fox News has a VERY educated opinion on the subject as well:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/163925.html




Posted by Shade

I loved how they kept trying to shut up the one guy who knew what he was talking about. And also, boys can't separate the game from reality? Bull****.




Posted by Zeta

Ahaha, Fox News is always good for a laugh.




Posted by Shin-Ra


Quoting Shade: And also, boys can't separate the game from reality? Bull****.

Of course, teenage girls are really grounded individuals though. Oh, and it was a guy objectifying all sorts of women. Oh wait, it was a guy with a woman OR a woman with a woman. Seriously though, I knew that lady was going to be profoundly annoying the second I saw her book, with her posing all "empowered" and shit on the cover.

Anyway, back to being an internet hate machine.



Posted by Shade

The main thing that bugs me is that people actually listen to these people. "Oh they haven't played the game? Well I'm sure they still manage to know what they're talking about, yup."




Posted by WillisGreeny

[img]http://www.aubreysantiques.com/robot%20spark.JPG[/img]

Can't ignore the research! 2 hours of Mass Effect and you'll be rubbing your genitals with this! Can't ignore the research!




Posted by Roger Smith


Quoting WillisGreeny: [img]http://www.aubreysantiques.com/robot%20spark.JPG[/img]

Can't ignore the research! 2 hours of Mass Effect and you'll be rubbing your genitals with this! Can't ignore the research!


I'm already fapping.



Posted by Slade


Quoting Shin-Ra: Apparently Fox News has a VERY educated opinion on the subject as well:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/163925.html

"Darling, let's look at the facts."

Punch her right in the face.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: And also, boys can't separate the game from reality? Bull****.


I agree with her. It's not easy for a teenage boy to separate this reality from a virtual reality that takes place hundreds of years in the future where we're considered a lesser species just recently discovered by the galaxy's peoples. With whom you can ****.

I mean, they're pretty similar.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

fuuuuuuuuuuuck. okay, I just watched it. Wow. Now I remember why people make fun of fox news. I don't think they got a single thing right.




Posted by WillisGreeny


Quoting Vampiro V. Empire: fuuuuuuuuuuuck. okay, I just watched it. Wow. Now I remember why people make fun of fox news. I don't think they got a single thing right.


That's not true... Pacman is, indeed, gone. :)

Foxnews sux. If it isn't supported by the NRA or AFA then it's evil? Sounds fair and balanced to me. whoops, shouldn't have said "fair and balanced", since, afterall, Fox "owns" the phrase. :laugh:



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

I just like how they made a big deal about the rating only being on the back of the box. It's like they haven't even touched one before. Oh, and how that one chick was basically appalled and laughing when Geoff was like "have you even played Mass Effect?"

***, love journalists.




Posted by WillisGreeny

It's funny how scholarly journals and college texts donate 3 to 5 pages on how the author's experience influences the opinion, basically explaining the "this is just one, and not the only correct, veiw", while Journalists display their work as "the truth". ****es me off.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

The 'vidya gaem' expert was pretty intelligent and made some good points. Shame he was yelled over by two airheaded *****es, and then ignored in a roundtable discussion on DIGITAL HARDCORE SEX.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Oh yeah... you don't get his show in the UK most likely. He's pretty respectable and knows what he's talking about, which is why I wasn't surprised that they kept cutting him off. I was half expecting them to just shut his feed down halfway through.




Posted by Shin-Ra

Are "news" programs that are used more for entertainment purposes as popular anywhere else as they are here? I'm just curious if it's more of an American thing, because just about all news programs that aren't local seem to be just that. It's rarely ever about providing information, but more of a stand point under the pretense of "fair and balanced", which we all know is a total lie.




Posted by WillisGreeny

I've heard that the popular Japanese newspapers are usually controlled by the challenger parties more so than the liberal democratic party. The Challenger parties are formed by several parties while the LDP makes up the other 50%. So, the newspaper has been seen to be bias for the challengers. (my sources are 15 years old, could have changed)




Posted by Fate

Horse****.




Posted by WillisGreeny

no BS, look for yourself. This isn't "secret" at all. Imagin lobbyists having there own political party...that's basically what it's like.




Posted by Fate

I'm talking about the news report.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

http://kotaku.com/348187/ea-calls-fox-out-on-insulting-mass-effect-inaccuracies

EA's response to Fox News. Pretty ****ing awesome.




Posted by Slade

Owned. I hope they do air a correction, but I doubt they will.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

They'll just bring in another "expert" to refute EA's claims.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[quote=EA]As video games continue to take audiences away from television, we expect to see more TV news stories warning parents about the corrupting influence of interactive entertainment. But this represents a new level of recklessness.
Oh jeez. EA just spanked Fox.




Posted by WillisGreeny

But Fox's audience won't care, sadly. A reason Fox has such ****ty coverage is because the audience doesn't know the difference, and judging by how often Fox displays only one side of a story, the audience must like being told what they already think. Fox's rhetoric obviously hasn't had an influence on those who disagree, so it's not about pursuading. This forum has a great expression for that type of news coverage, "circle jerking". Fox news circle jerks their audience.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Needed to be done though. If they don't retract their statement, EA could always sue their asses.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

EA is pretty much the only video game company that could hire lawyers good enough to take on Fox in court. I can understand why smaller devs who felt the wrath of their ignorance would be reluctant to do anything, but EA have the power.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

EA and Ubi and Activision, that's probably it.


Anywho, FOX is saying they've repeatedly asked EA onto their show, but haven't gotten a reply. Hmm, wonder why? Jeez.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: elf help author Cooper Lawrence, along with Fox News came under heavy fire from gamers last week when they mindlessly branded Mass Effect as pornography. While Fox News hasn't come forth with an apology, Lawrence has admitted her mistakes in an interview with the New York Times yesterday after angry gaming fans trashed her book on Amazon.
[QUOTE]
...Ms. Lawrence said that since the controversy over her remarks erupted she had watched someone play the game for about two and a half hours. "I recognize that I misspoke," she said. "I really regret saying that, and now that I've seen the game and seen the sex scenes it's kind of a joke.

"Before the show I had asked somebody about what they had heard, and they had said it's like pornography," she added. "But it's not like pornography. I've seen episodes of 'Lost' that are more sexually explicit."


While I don't think situations like this will ever change the way Fox News handles its sensationalist stories, perhaps it will send a message to the so called "experts" they bring on the show to do their research before going on air. As vehemently protective as gamers are of their genre, it will only end up coming back to bite these allegedly knowledgeable people in the ***. Hell hath no fury like a gamer scorned.


At least one half of it got resolved.



Posted by WillisGreeny

They certainly aren't careful about reporting facts. Fox speculated Ledger died from a cocain overdose because the police found some dollar bills near his body. They retracted their statements after the money was tested to not have any substances, but they broadcasted the story so ****ing long that now many really think he did die of cocain.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Which is pretty ****ing retarded. Apparently you can't have dollar bills unless you're a drug addict.




Posted by Slade

Yeah, I read about that. Apparently the bills appeared to be rolled up, so they assumed he was a drug addict. At this rate, fox is going to get sued by someone with a ****load of money. Might do them some good.




Posted by Last Fog

A little late here, but something in the news broadcast really made me laugh.

"At the end of the day... it's up to parents to control what their kids are seeing."

"It is, unfortunately."