http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/836/836746p1.html
He told me like, four months ago Rainbow Six Vegas 2 was going to be announced right around now and come out in March. Sure enough, it was announced today and it's coming out in March. ****, most anticipated game ever.
ALL HAIL THE CAT PROPHET! This games avalanche is NEVER going to end. ****
Is that screenshot from the Vegas 2 build? Looks pretty different, stylistically speaking. I'm disappointed they didn't change the location, but whatever. I can take a few more casinos.
I don't recognize it from the first game, so I have to assume so. Either way, I'm pumped since it was the best game ever and most fun I've had on any game.
I can't wait to BREACH AND CLEAR again. R6V was the game that converted my pcfag friend to xbotdom.
As long as multiplayer is the same with all the unlockables and character customization I will be a happy boy. Hell, single-player could be awful with no FLASH AND CLEAR whatsoever and I'd be ****ing excited.
Holy ****, so pumped for this game. *** I wish my R6 disc wasn't ****ed up so I could finish it/play more.
<3 cats
Man, Ubi better find some better ****ing discs to print this game on. I mean, EVERYONE experienced DREs even if your disc was spotless. Yet, it was so good no one cared. They'd just boot it back up and play the **** out of it again.
I feel guilty because I hardly play R6V, but I have a working disc.
SORRY GAIS :(
I ran that disc into the ground though. Everyday for nine months, so whatever.
Of course. It's video game crack. What's funny is the fact that it really isn't that great when it comes to the basics of online gaming. Lots of spawn camping, unbalanced weapons, considerable lag, etc etc. But I guess it just goes to show you how amazing the core fundamentals of game are.
I definitely played a lot more. I mean, you played a lot but by going by rank alone I reached elite a lot quicker. But yeah, my expectations are equally as high. Man, I can't wait until March now. Hope to *** it doesn't get delayed until, like, November.
Bet it will. Calling it now.
And ****, just got a DRE while playing CoD with you. WTF
Ooooh, that's what happened. ****. At least Oforia stayed in though.
But yeah, it probably will get delayed. Guess it just depends when they started working on it.
Delayed until May.
May? Not likely.
They need to release it before Brawl...
No they don't. And not gonna happen.
WELL THEY SHOULD.
Nah. Maybe if they were both FPSs or something and on the same console... but they're completely different and I'll likely play Smash during the day and Rainbow at night. I mean, it's not like Smash has a decent online system where I'll be playing with a bunch of people at peak hours.
Hmmm... I think I'm gonna cry when I finally put Brawl in my Wii. Seriously pumped.
ANYWAY, I hope they keep the same Rainbow team in 2. I loved how they had a ****** Brit and an azn stereotype. Awesome times.
Probably. I mean, it DID have one of the biggest cliffhangers ever, set right in the middle of a battle.
except jade's game and halo 2 and the empire strikes back
one of
It actually has a bigger cliffhanger than Halo 2 because at least Master Chief wasn't in the middle of a fight with a helicopter, he was just in a ship ABOUT to get in a fight.
Didn't the helicopter blow up? I'm pretty sure I shot it down.
Oh, well I didn't. So yeah. Point is, it's still a huge cliffhanger.
Looked it up, and it turns out there's two different endings for the game depending on whether or not you shot the helicopter. But the guy survives either way, so it isn't that relevant.
Yeah, the ending is the exact same. It crashed either way, but anything with TO BE CONTINUED is a ****ing ****ty ending and basically guarantees the characters will remain the same.
Seriously though, what the **** is with Ubi and awful cliffhangers? GRAW2, Rainbow, Assassins, Splinter Cell, etc.
Ubi looooove their sequels/cash-ins. It's a shame, since they're pretty tight developers.
Wait, I though that guy was Australian. And I'm pumped for R6V2 like X is pumped for Brawl. OH JEE WIZZ, GONNA BE AWESOME. Hey Vamp, get another copy of vegas so we can play before it comes out. I played yesterday because Halo was getting sorta boring, and it was super cool!
I'm in the same situation with Crackdown. I want to play it, but not enough to buy a new disc...
Completely different. Rainbow Six is actually awesome and never gets old. Crackdown is awwight and gets old real quick.
It probably would have got old if it hadn't stopped working after one week. :(
I still need to finish the first. :(
Is Cat's not the one who said R6V2 will be announced now and released in March? So maybe it will be delayed until May.
Yeah, it's coming out in May I bet. Can't ****ing wait.
November 08
Has this been confirmed?
Or are you just taking a guess?
Confirmed for November 2008 by Jade Raymond.
Considering the fact Splinter Cell Conviction - a game that was announced nearly a year ago - has been delayed to 2009, I can't see a newly revealed game coming out so quickly.
Conviction seems like a completely different story though. I mean it's being built from the ground up and like no other SC game, it's a lot more ambitious too. Vegas 2, however, well, I doubt they changed too much. If they started working on it right away (a la CoD4) it could come out fairly quickly since it was basically already built, right?
Info taken from OXM and a couple other magazines
- Combat won't be resricted to casino floors, expect alot of outdoor battles
- The smarter A.I. will now occasionally use riot shields, meaning you'll have t aim for feet or use grenades.
- Better get use to sunlight in Vegas 2.
- Levels are being designed to have multiple entries into almost every area for maximum flank-ness
- Improved lighting & shadowing
- A key improvement to friendly AI is "leapfrogging". No longer will two people mindlessly storm into a room, instead, they'll cover each other and move up tactically.
Xbox Live Rainbow Report
- 11 new weapons ("One of those is definitely an M16-equivalent")
- 11 total maps, including some "classic" levels that date back as far as the Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield expansion pack.
- 2 new game modes
- A new online match search engine
- The ability to join games in progress
- You can now invite your friends into ranked sessions online
- An improved Terrorist Hunt mode: player respawns are available and terrorist will spawn more fairly
A.C.E.S. (Advance Combat Enhancements and Specilization)
Vegas 2's new A.C.E.S. system breaks down your experience points rewards into three catagories:
1. Close-Quarters Battle: Trashing the soft cover to get to your foes and generally fighting up-close-and-personal will reward you with CQB points, ultimately unlocking weapons like new shotguns.
2. Marksmanship: This is for all you snipers. Headshots are an easy, obvious way to earn points here, with the reawards being new long-range rifles.
3. Assault: Those that prefer quantities of shots over the quality of them will find themselves scoring points here and netting new SMGs and the like.
- Ubisoft has the final code-drop from Epic (Unreal Engine 3) so the graphics look really good even in multipalyer and has a smoother framerate
P.E.C. Mode (Presistent Elite Creation)
- Will be much deeper
- Is carring over to the single-player campaign
Campaign Tweaks
- A sprint button has been added
- The ability to quickly customize your load-out during the pre-mission helicopter flight
- Bullet penetration: Thin cover will no longer protect your targets (ie. Plywood and Plaster walls)
Story
- Play as male or female
- Character is fully customizable right down to your face and gear
- You play as and elite operative named Bishop (In multipalyer, P2 will be someone named Knight)
- Sidekicks Michael Walter & Jung Park will once again be at you side ( In multiplayer they will be P3 & P4)
- Every cutscene will be interactive through your eyes
- Jump in, Jump out: Can start a solo game, have a buddy jump in, and if he leaves, you can continue alone from where the two of you left off
- Story is part prequel part sequal
- Starts before the events in Rainbow Six Vegas, and will then run parallel to when Logan was is Mexico during Vegas' early levels, and then run concurrently with his casino exploits
- It'll conclude after the dam's events in the closing moments of the first game
Sounds like what the original Vegas should've been. All good changes.
T-Hunt sounds better, and being able to join sessions in progress is sooper. Some of it sounds somewhat similar to COD4...
The only part I see similar is sprint and shooting through stuff, though the latter is a lot more limited. Which makes sense, considering there's a cover system. Though who knows if they'll carry over to Multi, I'm going to guess it won't...
How can Flash and Clear be your teammates again if your story runs parallel to Logan's? I sure am confused.
Honestly, I don't even get what the **** is going on with the story. It takes place before, during and after Vegas, but you're a new character... but it's a sequel... but you still have the same guys? I don't know.
Should have been Rainbow Six Miami.
Should've been anywhere other than Vegas. Not that I'm upset it's still in Vegas, but whatever.
Also, Calypso is coming back.
Trailer is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Yeah, pretty much.
BUT IT SHOWS A KNIFE! WOOOOOOO MELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
that's all I remember actually.
Well, there were boobies. That was cool I guess.
From the press conference:
More Multiplayer
I'm more excited than the customizing **** than anything else, as sad as that is. No one has really done it better.
New screenshots, **** yeah.
[IMG]http://news.filefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/rainbowsixvegas21.jpg[/IMG]
http://news.filefront.com/shootouts-with-terrorists-in-new-screens-for-rainbow-six-vegas-2/
I'm really, really excited about this one. I don't have an Xbox 360 and I didn't even beat the first game, and I am excited. The first one, I got up to Calypso Casino on single player (my friend's Xbox broke again. piece of ****) but I had to have had about 80 hours of online gameplay. I loved that game so much.
Things that excite me most about the new one is the new weapons, joining matches in progress, inviting to ranked matches and not being able to hide behind plywood and such things.
The new weapons will give more of a variety, the next two will make starting an online match easier and the last one will makes things more realistic. I really can't wait for this. I'm super pumped :D
Sweeeeet. I'm looking forward to dealing with more intelligent terrorists.
EDIT: I was just reading around and it looks like the co-op is only going to be two player. Kinda disappointing.
[quote=Angelwing;803025]Sweeeeet. I'm looking forward to dealing with more intelligent terrorists.
In before Speedfreak and FPS AI.
Anyway, new screenshots look nice. Good to see we'll be fighting in a daytime Las Vegas, rather than the perpetual dusk of the first game. Is it just me, or are the Rainbow uniforms darker this time?
Looks like ****. As in, marginally better, if at all, than RSV. Which should mean they made a huge improvement to the core gameplay and stability of online. If that's the case, it can look as ugly as it wants to.
As for co-op, it's full-blown co-op unlike the original, so that would explain the lack of 4 person co-op.
Yeah, it really doesn't look any better, graphic wise, although that could change a bit. Either way, if they concentrated more on other things I wouldn't even care.
I liked four player co-op, but if it's going to be better with only two, then I guess that's alright. Unless you have to control allies. At least t-hunts are still four player.
The character models look slightly improved and that's it. And if it does come out in March they don't have much time to drastically improve the environments. As long as the bump up the quality of the graphics in multi it's cool. Because RSV is a really ugly multiplayer game.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29610.html
... is that dante's theater from the first ****ing game?
Looks like a refurbished Dantes! I figured it'd be mega ****ed up from the first game.
Considering that the game takes place concurrently with Vegas 1, doubtful. Though it's another casino. Definitely. That'd just be stupid to go back to Dante's.
Wilhelm scream. Even appears in trailers now, jee wizz.
That trailer reminded me a lot of the Dante's theater fight. Those chairs were ****ty cover.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29755.html
They even included the XP bar from CoD4. Haha, oh jeez. Though yeah, it looks and plays the exact same as the first which is no surprise by now. The only difference is you get XP in single-player which carries over to multi. Though, you gotta get headshots to unlock snipers... for some reason.
Looks ****ing sweet. Thank *** they added sprinting. Also looks slightly better than the first. Pretty excited!
Looks great! Just hope they'll have the latency issues taken care of.
Those crazy French Canadian accents! I loooooove XP, so this is great. Hopefully I can make it past level 20 this time.
Military ranks only, buddy. If it's anything like the original Vegas anyways. And if it is, it takes a tooooooooooon of time to level up. You'll never hit elite. Ever.
I like the little +1, +2, etc. notifications. gonna give R6V2 a nice little arcade feel.
Not unlike CoD4. IW took from Ubi and now Ubi is heavily taking from IW. Neat.
Yeah. Apart from ranks and stuff in multiplayer, some of the single player sections had a Vegas feel to them.
Quite a few things felt very similar between the two games. Probably because they're the only two notable modern war games. But still. Now they're closer than ever. It's just you can go up against cover in Vegas rather than go prone like in CoD.
Few new updates:
-Vegas elites will get bonus unlockables and an XP boost
-Pistols shoot faster, do more damage
-New mode where a team leader is assigned and acts like a respawn point. Kill him, then kill his teammates.
-Conquest is now Total Conquest. You have to capture all satellites and hold them for 30 seconds to win the round.
-Graphics in multi are near identical to single-player.
-Drastically improved load times obviously
-And you can now switch teammates from one team to the other with a full server. Thank ***.
Pistols are useful now? Yaaaaaay!
Which will likely make them less fun... nothing better than playing an A&D match with only a pistol.
Means kids dangling from rappels will be all the more lethal.
Not really. Pistols were always a one-shot kill anyways and that was really only helpful on Calypso.
From the Ubi devs:
i never got around to playing the first one, how similar is R6V to CoD 4, because i absoloutly loved that one
Way different. Still though, I highly, highly recommend it. One of the best FPSs you'll ever play.
I'm mildly tempted to get this.
Only similarity to Vegas 1 and CoD4 is the modern guns. CoD4 took things from Vegas, and now Vegas is taking things from CoD4, so now Vegas 2 seems a bit more like CoD4... mainly in terms of the sprint mechanic and XP bar.
It's the best of both worlds!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pFSsb-WSANo
Maps that were available for play:
# Kill House - Redone from Rainbow 6: Vegas
# Villa
# Trainyard - Redone from Rainbow 6: Vegas
# Three Kingdom's Casino
# Oil Refinery
# Convention Center
# Import/Export - Redone from Rainbow 6: Black Arrow
# Vegas Junkyard
# Murdertown
# CQB Training
# Theater
# Presido - Redone from Rainbow 6: Black Arrow
Or something like that. Some of those names are pretty silly... I just copy + pasted them from the MLG forums, so they could be misspelled etc.
Wait, is that the killhouse one with the frag dolls? ****, thought it was a new video.
Oh jeez, the Fragdolls. PRO GAMERZ who got royally spanked by a bunch of Bungie higher-up at Halo 3 then called them out as cheaters. Ahaha.
Anyway, Murdertown sounds like a nice map!
Killhouse and now mudertown. Truly great names.
Worst map name ever. Or best? You decide.
And looks like we're going back to Mexico for the campaign. WOOO.
Likely. Though they've been saying for awhile it'd take place largely in Vegas, just the back-alleys and grittier sections.
Only a month to go now, as long as Ubi don't **** up and delay it!
They've had a year to add in a total of five minor tweaks and slightly buff the graphics. If they delay it I will deem them completely incompetent.
If only Jade Raymond was on the team...
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=504
oh lawd is dat sum copypastad achievements
Anyway, placed my order from a site that will probably deliver to me so that I have it on the day of the American release (with a free art book). LAUNCH PARTY!
Easy stuff. Looks like I'm gonna actually have to buy it to get some decent points, though.
I like how, once again, they added in the vision cam achievement. Easily one of the worst achievements ever and they put it back in. Oh, and more hosting achievements too. Really dumb. But the rest are ace. Especially the nod to Splinter Cell.
Good thing I got the free vision cam last week! :cool:
http://www.insidegamer.nl/xbox360/tomclancysrainbowsixvegas2/videos/6405/
First ten minutes of gameplay are set... Nowhere ****ing near Vegas. ONLY 3 DAYS LEFT WOOHOOHOO
I'M RANK 47 NOW, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER MY RANK IN HALO
**** you
I don't care, I am still eager to play this game. :(
Just bought it. I'm wondering how soon I should play it. :/
Right ****ing now. You'll love it.
Don't forget that I haven't played a Rainbow Six game since before the year 2000 and I'm a girl with a weak tolerance for people being angry with me. Will I really like it then?
Old rainbow is way different from Vegas. So there's not reason to worry about that. And fact of the matter is, all the loud black guys and *******s stick to games like gears and call of duty. Compared to the rest, the original Vegas had very little trashtalking all things considered.
They took out all the meticulous planning that made the old Rainbows really fun and watered down the Sun Tzu elements. Still more thinking involved than most FPS games, though.
So, what are the best guns now? I'm going to wager it's still the MTAR and ****, since Ubisoft probably didn't even bother ****ing with the gun stats, but I know Vampy's gonna give me a totally expert opinion. Come on, buddy!
I kinda like the MP5N.
It's still the TAR and FAMAS. He'll say the 552, but he'd be lying.
I haven't unlocked the TAR yet, so I'll just go with the 552 for now.
TAR-21 Assault Rifle
When you are customizing your character. (Changing guns + clothing)
(Hold RB) Down, Down, Up, Up, X, B, X, B, Y, Up, Up, Y.
Unlock code for the TAR!
Why the **** did they make it a PREORDER XCLUSIVE gun anyway, ****sux.
Also, lolwhatthehell at the single player's story. I played through it pretty much in a single sitting, and I'm on the last scene. Not a Tom Clancy game unless someone gets backstabbed, amirite?
Played some online/THunt now, and I usually roll with:
Commando / 6x Scope
500 Tactical / Reflex
Raging Bull
FIRE
Frag grenade
Also, what's the deal with the TAR? I went to put in the unlock code, turns out it unlocked almost right after I'd started the game and I didn't notice. Duuuumb
My biggest problem is that I want to have a good multiplayer experience. I can always rely on Halo (1/2/3) if I want to play with other people, either through XBC or Live. Is Vegas 2 as popular as CoD4 or H3?
In terms of population - you'll always be able to find the match you want (Vegas 2 uses a server browser rather than matchmaking). It's probably not as popular as COD4/Halo 3, but it's definitely not a niche community. I only bother playing online if there's friends around, though.
What's the best way to rank up? I'm still like a gunnery sergeant or something. I really like the TAR and the P90 so far, but I haven't unlocked many guns yet. Which ones do you recommend in each class? (SMG, AR, Sniper, Shotguns, etc.)
I find Team Leader gives the biggest boosts per round (200XPish for assassinating their leader, 200XPish for winning). Multiplayer THunts are pretty good too, since everyone's getting the same XP. There's also that infinite XP glitch on the first set of missions, but you'd have to be really patient. I'm only a Warrant Officer, though, so I don't know that much.
As for guns, my favorites are:
AR: 500 Commando, FAMAS
SMG: MP5N, P90
Shotgun: 500 Tactical, SPAS12
Sniper: Arctic Warfare (I rarely if ever snipe, though)
Pistol: Deagle
Also, protip I learned: apparently 7 bars of protection grants the same protection as 10 bars - 40%. So there's never any need to go over 7. Or if you're going for light armor, 4 bars is equal to 5 or 6. lol ubi
I don't really wear that much armor anyway but good to know.
I haven't played with the 500 commando yet. Famas is alright for me but I prefer the TAR, it performs better in close combat and seems to have less recoil, I usually have a silencer on it. Haven't really messed with the mp5N either. P90 is pretty cool. Haven't gotten the 500 tactical or Arctic Warfare yet.
552 Commando is a great all-rounder. Burst fire mode on long-range, full auto on CQB areas - it doesn't have many weaknesses. The MP5N is somewhat similar. Seriously good over long range for an SMG.
Statistically the FAMAS is easily the best.
I'm more of an assault and shotty type of player. I stick with my Spas and M8. The M8 is my favorite assault rifle. I'm about to unlock the arctic warefare which is the last unlock for the marksman ship levels. To level up easier all you have to do is play on realistic and you'll get 10 experience for a kill and more points torwards you CQB, assault and Marksman. Like you'll get 2 points for a kill with an exposive and 3 points for a blind fire etc. I'm a senior master sergant and it was not that hard.
Team Leader is still my tried-and-tested best way of raking in dat der XP.
No reason to use the SPAS over the 500 Tactical. Unless of course you don't have it unlocked.
Oh I ws talkin about the offline level up. I got to get another subscription.
I tried the 500 tactical and I don't like it as much as the spas. I don't know why it just doesn't feel comfortable to me.
Staff Sergeant at the moment, haven't played a whole load, but I'll get to Elite in a few million years. :)
500 Tactical is crazy accurate. I have no idea why.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35654.html
Calypso Casino is back. They changed a few things around, tweaked some stuff, added dark versions of two maps and a new mode. Can't say I'm too excited.
Man, Vegas 2. I played that game for a week or two then went back to COD4. Was pretty neat, but once you go COD, you never go back.
Pretty much. I still like Rainbow, but no one plays it anymore and CoD is just too good. Here's hoping IW does some new stuff with CoD though
Oh, and how ****ing stupid is that Elite **** in Rainbow? 99 useless elite levels? Extra ACES that do absolutely nothing but give you EXP that you likely don't even need? Lame.
I'm still working on my Elite ranking so I'll definitely be enjoying old Casino once again. Not that I miss it all too much. It's not even that great of a level, but due to the other levels being even less great, I suppose it'll surface.
I just watched the video. Two retextures of existing maps and a map from the last game? Are they expecting us to pay for this?! Also: copying the grenade indicators and hardcore mode from COD4 is pretty funny.
Maps are free, so I'm guessing everything else is.
And only reason I don't want Calypso in this is because that's all anyone ever played in Vegas. That and Vault.
I wouldn't pay. Maybe if more people played it. Usually when I try playing it too many friends get on CoD4 and I am easily tempted to join them. I was hoping that more of the little flaws would've been cleared up with this sequel, but it was very much like the last. Weak disk, awful loading times, and terrible lag/host advantages.
I didn't notice any of those issues in Vegas 2. Load times were cleared up drastically, host advantage remained (due to Unreal Engine) but it wasn't half as bad and so far the disc is all right! Of course, I've played it only a fraction of the time I did Vegas.
anyone check out Vegas lately? they added ACE ranks up to 100 and multiple Elites. They also added frag/incendiary icons, and the incendiaries blow up quite a bit later. Pretty sure they also made the scope zoom in faster, so it's not quite as useless.
that's what I posted above. Haven't tried it though.
oh christ.
well, it's ok. walking into my incendiaries like they were a giant cloud of fine, refreshing mist on a cool spring morning is FUN.
Have the tweaks changed the game for the better or what? The incendiary delay thing kinda disappointed me, same with the increase in detonation speed of C4.
oh, haven't really tried playing against other players yet. just briefly played some terrorist hunt and was walking all over my incendiaries.
The increase in detonation really wasn't needed because of the sprint button, so I'm pretty disappointed.
Thought as much. I thought the way they had it before was fine. Incendiaries and grenades had to different, specific uses and if they make them similar... eh. As for C4, I can see myself throwing one out like a grenade online to detonate it in my face.