today I realized (after taking part in a smashfest over the weekend) that certain games that are played in tournaments like Halo, are considered cool, while other games like SmashBorhters are considered Nerdy.
I can understand why, but I just hate that fact that some people can label someone less cool because of a game they play compared to other games out there.
it kind of bugs me.
Everyone labels each other for the games they play. What do you think all those "nerds" at Smash Bros parties/tournaments saying about the guys playing Halo?
Take a Sociology class sometime, this is the kind of stuff that goes on in society at large all the time.
Yeah, it's pretty much just group elitism. Whatever it takes to justify their own actions. It goes on with both sides.
Also, you're not cool enough for an Atalanta avatar. Remove it.
oh lawd is dat sum golden sun elitism?
Yeah, take a Sociology or a really good Psychology class sometime.
Xbots v Nintendrones. That's why.
If you play any vidyagaem competitively, you're pretty nerdy.
You aren't cool if you play Nintendo, that's how it's always been.
But if anyone tells you one game is "cool" and another is "nerdy" you can rest assured the nerdy game is the better of the two.
I think it's pretty nerdy to talk about video games outside the setting. College-frat games like Halo are cool to mention but nerdy to talk about when it goes into hardcore stats and "super-awesome" videos. I love playing Nintendo games, but if some guy starts to talk to me about them I automatically think he's a fag if he doesn't mention some hardcore title afterwards that is a pretty good game to play (must involve cool guns, blood, explosions, tits-not-sim, or swords).
The other day some guy was trying to be cool around me by saying he was thinking about giving up his 360 for a PS3. I gave him a "are you retarded or what" look. Then he started talking about Nintendo games and I just drowned him out. Another guy was talking about Halo and I was diggin' it, but then he went into a rant about n00bs and headshots and stats-- I was pretty ****ed off after that. ****ing douchebags. wtf is wrong with people
I just find it weird whenever someone I don't know really well starts talking about video games. For some reason I still hold the notion that it's still a small business and hardly anyone plays them :(
Isn't talking about the vidya in a gaming forum quite nerdy enough?
[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;765586]I just find it weird whenever someone I don't know really well starts talking about video games. For some reason I still hold the notion that it's still a small business and hardly anyone plays them :(
haha, oh wow. This used to happen to me all the time. My driving instructor was a big gamer, and he'd hit out with all this **** like 'HEY DID YOU CHECK OUT *** OF WAR 2 YET, THOSE GRAPHICS ARE FANTASTIC, I REALLY LOVE THE GOLIATH PART OH WOW AND I WAS ALL LIKE TAPPING X REAL HARD', and I'd just squirm uncomfortably at the wheel.
I think it's worse when people around you know that you play games, but they don't. "HA HA SO WHAT'S YOUR HIGH SCORE FOR SUPER MARIO?"
I don't know that many people who don't play games. Although my mother always tries her hardest to make fun of a game if I'm playing it in the same room. I'll never forget her attempts to imitate Link's 'HAAA!' noise when he rolls over. Man, she had a field day with Halo 3's campaign.
lol, driving instructors. Mine ranted at me for about 5 minutes about his family problems, getting more mad every second, after I casually asked if he had gotten the oil changed in the car recently.
I normally don't hear much video game talk at all, but lately I've been hearing people talking about Orange Box all over the campus. It's usually obvious that one person is just blathering on while the other awkwardly sits there. There are only a handful of people I can chat about games with. Around everyone else I either don't bring it up at all, or if I'm really looking forward to something it might slip out, and they'll look at me funny. But it's easy to recover from that unless I just professed my love for electric mouse pokemon or something.
edit: ninja'd... a couple times.
I like Halo and Super Smash Brothers, what does that make me?
A whore.
I don't talk to people I don't know about video games. Because most of the time it's a pointless endevour. However, at my old job two of my managers brought it up. And I found out one was really into the Castlevania series, so much so that he actually bought a turbogrphix-cd to play Rondo of Blood. So I'd listen to him drone on about that for an hour or so just so I wouldn't have to work. Or my other manager was playing Twilight Princess and would ask me for help on certain parts.
But if, for instance, someone came up to me and started asking me if I play Halo 3 or Madden; I pretend I don't even know what video games are. I think I get some sort of weird kick of them trying to be hardcore about it and telling me all these "kewl" things that I'm not supposed to know about.
Or then there's the sad attempts when my father comes in and starts asking me which systems I have and ALWAYS without fail says the wrong one. "Is that there the new xbox360" I say "No, that's the Wii" Him "oh lol wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii" or something like that. He basically stereotypes me as your typical video game nerd now...which I'm fine with I suppose. Kept he went too far yesterday in saying "I bet all you watch is G4...CAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS CRAP!" I couldn't respond.
Halo is cool. Smash Bros. is fun but not exactly cool college-frat material. Talking about stats in any game ever when the conversation consists of mostly casual touches on a game ("we had fun that night, bro" or "dude, that headshot was ****ing sick!") is nerdy.
My non-gamer friends are still giving me shit about skipping school to play Halo 3. They just don't understand, mostly because they never played Halo 3. The only game they play is "LOL BURNOUT LOOK @ THAT SICK REPETITIVE VIOLENCE D00D"
Your post doesn't make any sense now that I edited mine. (I asked him which Halo he was on, it was a reference to his location.)
Most of my friends don't play video games so I don't really talk about it. Talking about vg stats IRL is pretty gay.
Non-gamers / casual gamers confuse me on a near-daily basis.
I've heard it referenced as a frat game. Probably just depends on the frat.
I think it's pretty dorky to talk about, actually! I love the game to death but you're not going to catch me saying that to a crowd of people.
Well duh, you have an image to keep up!
Pretty much, yeah.
It's just how times change. Nintendo, then Playstation and now Xbox.
Also, Fate's pathetic lol.
I think it's just that older people aren't as comfortable with calling it simply "Wii."
And I agree with Vamp. Systems don't really make a game less nerdy, Fate. Video games are pretty much nerdy by definition. :( I can guarantee that the playerbases of games like Halo 3 and SSBM have the same age, maturity, and social level. It's really just a matter of which groups are more openly vocal about it and therefore better-accepted.
Iris speaks troof.
Now, now, Vamp, you are not a girl working in an electronics store. I am! My coworkers are creepy and to have them talk about how hot Peach or Cortana are can be weird, to say the least. Certain kinds of discussion are okay when it comes to casual speech of a generally acceptable game (deemed "cool"), but sometimes...
Fair enough, I guess. I figured it was because you didn't want other to know you enjoyed games, simply because others viewed them as a nerdy past-time. If that were the case, THEN it would've been fairly pathetic.
But creepy coworkers, completely understandable.
If you can't talk about one game you like to a group of people but you can with another game you're grossly overestimating how cool videogames are. If you're into games enough to talk about them you're a nerd, get the fuck over it.
You know you're precisely the type of person I want to avoid in real life!
sometimes, games are labled as less cool cuz they totally SUCK ***, whereas other games KICK ***.
just sayin
Well that certainly clears things up :)
It's not like this is the first instance, too. I've spoken very proudly of my interests to the wrong people, leaving me being virtually friendless since I graduated some two and a half years ago. Cool folks don't like me, nerds get pretty creepy... It just doesn't work.
Wait, people stopped liking you for liking games? Wow, those are some pretty ****ing awesome friends you had.
Well, someone like me only looks like an omg person. I can talk about hair and makeup and VH1 all day. This attracts a certain group of people that I can hang out with. I can also talk about games all day, which attracts those other types. When those other types attempt to mingle with my omg friends, my omg friends tend to stay away from me because I'm guilty by association. When I sit down for lunch, I expect my friends to sit with me but they don't because they see the dorky ones headed my way. This makes me ****ed off with my dorky friends and I tend to stay away from them. Nobody ever calls back. wtf
The omg people aren't exactly your friends if they act like that.
That sounds a lot like how my FOOTBAAAAAAAAAALL friends didn't mingle well with my nerdy friends. However, eventually my nerdy friends turned out to be the faggots, so I just made the football ones deal with nerdy side. It worked, too. Eventually I met other people who were just as nerdy as me, but also into other stuff I like to do. Anyways, my football friends call me a faggot when I say something nerdy, but it's just like how I call them faggots when they say something jock-y. In the end, we all still want to hang out with each other.
That's what I'm talking about. The nerdy ones I've encountered turned out to be the faggots. I just moved to Texas three months ago and the only friends I have are at the workplace. The omg people were drawn to me first and everything was fine until that fated day I wore my Gears of War sweater to work. Since I haven't been friends with anyone for too long, it's easy to drop me. :mad:
Haha, wow, you suck at balancing friends then. Everyone has those two different groups of people they hang out with that you know should never be able to mingle, that's highschool.
Even now I don't mingle two of my friends with the rest because I know it'll be embarrassing for me and awkward for everyone. They know that, I know that, and we're fine with it.
All my friends are nerds and freaks(see Judge), so it makes it a whole lot easier to hang out with them :D
Also I've noticed mixing friends you met over the internet with IRL friends never turns out that well. THE MORE YOU KNOW
Probably, Linko. But that's what the internet is for.
Oh wait, didn't you just move or something? That I could understand... but yeah, don't bridge. It's best to keep them separate, especially if they're two distinct groups. It's best for everyone.
I had no idea the American people are as totally artificial as they are on TV.
I mean Christ, my nerdy friend from high school who's also gone slightly goth manages to be popular with just about every type of person you can think of, yet we all know he's too busy to hang with us cause he's playing D&D.
Do you honestly have to hide parts of yourselves from your friends after high school?
[quote=Speedfreak;768853]I had no idea the American people are as totally artificial as they are on TV.
Actually gonna agree with you on this one. I've never experienced this sort of thing WHERE I COME FROM!
Not on the same scale I bet.
Fate: Typical American
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It's pretty much true.
Oh well, at least we have nice teeth, buttface.
wtf
I didn't experience segregation until after high school. :confused:
The only thing from my experience in high school that I know to be different from stuff on TV are "popular" kids. There's no such ****ing thing as "popularity" and never has been where I've gone to school; maybe there was once, but now people just hang with whoever they share interests with or whatever and are respectful of everyone in general.
lol
I think it's more prevalent to have kids thinking they're popular than there really being a "popular" group of kids everyone looked up to. My highschool was nothing like the ones in Teen movies.
[quote=Slade;769035]...Weird. I started experiencing it in 5th grade, when there were "the kids who are good at sports," and "the kids who aren't as good at sports."
My school had two sports teams - the 13+ football (soccer) team, and the 16+ football team. So there were only 22 people out of 1400 in the 'good at sports' group. And I was friends with a few of them! :D
[quote=Slade;769035]...Weird. I started experiencing it in 5th grade, when there were "the kids who are good at sports," and "the kids who aren't as good at sports."
So nothing like that even happens over there?
The people good at sports were just that, people good at sports. It was just something they did for fun, they weren't regarded as special or more popular or anything. I barely knew who played sports at all, all they ever got was their names read off in assemblies sometimes, but I never paid attention.
During my Jr. High school years is when I would say popularity actually had any standing in who treated who nicely or not. After that(9th grade) in high school popularity was still there, but it didn't really matter in who treated who. It was more so determined in which "click" you were apart of. Though overall, I'd say this affected females more so than males on the campus.
My school wasn't like those movies, either. Like I said, it started after high school.
Ooh, a good example would be this one guy at work who we all think is "living the dream"-- like he played football in high school for a bit and then quit and has been on that track ever since. He talks about working out and having chicks but everyone knows his stories are bull because he looks like a cow and most of his chick stories are about almost scoring or them being lesbians and making out in front of him. He invites folks to his parties with the promise of an awesome time. He tries to get me to go by saying there will be an Xbox on a huge TV with surround sound and some booze (little does he know I think him just saying that is dorky as ****), but I never go. I ask other people what they think of him and they said that if I ever hung out with him I'd be guilty by association. Some people even told me they wanted to kick his ***, and we're all adults here! He's a fag and anyone that can actually hang out with him more than once is probably a fag, too.
Well, that's a tad different than ignoring someone that's actually a decent person because you considering him less than "cool" for whatever reason. The guy in your example is just an idiot that no one would like.
Then there's the guys who go on about PC games even though I thoroughly express my disgust for them on a daily basis. All faggots. Maybe I'm just too picky.
People seem to make the mistake that my interests are what I am. Gross.
Nah. PC ****ing sucks. You're right in that case.
[quote=Fate;769720][COLOR=skyblue]Then there's the guys who go on about PC games even though I thoroughly express my disgust for them on a daily basis. [/COLOR]
all I heard was bla bla bla bla I'm a faggot bla bla bla
I THINK I'LL GO ENJOY SOME TEAM FORTRESS 2 RIGHT NOW :mad: (and some peggle)
Yeah, PC sucks. Save for Baldur's Gate.
[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;769269]Well, that's a tad different than ignoring someone that's actually a decent person because you considering him less than "cool" for whatever reason. The guy in your example is just an idiot that no one would like.
If she was ignoring him for being less than cool she'd still make up a load of reasons for why he's an idiot, though =P.
Indeed. Though he sounds like a total idiot AND he's a PC fanboy. idk, I can see where she's coming from in this case.
If I hear one more PC fanboy talk about how inadequate console controls are, I may kill myself.
But that doesn't mean I don't like playing PC games. :(
The amount of PC fanboys on my gaming course saddens me. The amount of single platform players in general saddens me, actually.