Street Fighter IV




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[URL="http://www.capcom.com"]www.capcom.com[/URL]

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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!




Posted by Fate

Glad it's not another Alpha Puzzle Turbo Max III title.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

HD Remix getting delayed AGAIN was the only disappointing thing about their presentation. :(

What we need is a Brawl-style daily update site. HADOUKEN CONFIRMED FOR SF4? YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!




Posted by Zeta

Wait, there was a 3? I thought they'd been whoring out 2 all this time.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[quote=Zeta;762965]Wait, there was a 3? I thought they'd been whoring out 2 all this time.
get out

3 was actually more fun than 2 - only downer was that the whole roster got culled, bar Ken and Ryu.




Posted by Degeneration

No words...

*Cries. Just freaking cries*




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZP3WYiOncI

Trailer. Oh wow, crazy stylized 3D? NOT SURE IF WANT BUT MOST LIKELY YES




Posted by Pit

About ****ing time.




Posted by S

Owen Wilson is in Street Fighter? Holy hell! Seriously though, I'm not a Street Fighter fan but it looks awesome.




Posted by Ant

That what pretty ****ing awesome. Hopefully the game remains in 2D.




Posted by Linko_16


Quoting Fate: Glad it's not another Alpha Puzzle Turbo Max III title.


Amen.


Quoting Ant: Hopefully the game remains in 2D.


I know, I picked up one of the recent King of Fighters titles since they started doing them in 3D, and I swear to ***, they must've given the game to completely different developers. The moves sucked, the voices sucked, the mechanics sucked, the story sucked...

I mean, I guess 3D would be fine if they did it right (it worked for Soul Calibur, right?), but somehow I doubt they possibly could.




Posted by Pit

Soul Calibur started 3d. Of course 3D can work for Street Fighter, but then the game would be completely different and **** off fans who want the traditional 2D street fighter.




Posted by Linko_16

True. But after all the re-releases of classic Street Fighter gameplay, I wouldn't mind a bit of a change. I mean, if it's good, people shouldn't mind too bad; after Super Mario 64 was released, no one was complaining that it was the classic side-scrolling genre was dead forever.




Posted by Roger Smith


Quoting Pit: Soul Calibur started 3d.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballz

lol wut?

If you mean SC made it popular then yeah.



Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[quote=Roger Smith;763068][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballz[/URL]

lol wut?
The Sould Calibur series has always been 3D. He didn't say it started the 3D fighting gerne.

Go to bed, Roger.




Posted by Roger Smith


Quoting The X: He didn't say it started the 3D fighting gerne.




Quoting Pit: Soul Calibur started 3d.


Time to go to sleep I suppose.

And while I'm at it. Battle Arena Toshinden, which was spiritually succeeded by the SC series and all other 3-D fighting games.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Well that was one of the cooler trailers I've seen in a looong time. But yeah, if it's not 2D I'm not sure if I really care.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Time to go to sleep I suppose.


Drr, read above that. It worked for SC because SC started in 3D, there wasn't a jump from 2D to 3D. Hence "It started 3D." As in, it started in 3D, there was no jump in dimensions. ****.



Posted by Roger Smith

[SIZE="6"]*YAWWWWWWWWN*[/SIZE]

The same could be said of any other 3-D fighting game before SC. There was no jump from 2-D to 3-D with Virtua Fighter or Tekken.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

That has nothing to do with anything. Good job.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

Roger Smith, successfully managing to fag up the most exciting thread on VGC.

good job idort go back to 4chan




Posted by Roger Smith

How can you say it doesn't have anything to do with anything. Current discussion is about 3-D fighting games.




Posted by Roger Smith


Quoting The X:
good job idort go back to 4chan


Has nothing to do with anything.

The X, successfully managing to fag up the most exciting debate in the most exciting thread on VGC.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: How can you say it doesn't have anything to do with anything. Current discussion is about 3-D fighting games.


Pretty sure you edited your last post. Now it has something to with the topic. But still, SC was an example, that's it.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: ****************YAWWWWWWWWN* There were plenty other games that started in 3-D before SC. But because of them SC was able to achieve it's level of popularity.***************


There we go. THAT has nothing to do with anything.



Posted by Roger Smith

Yeah I shortened it. Originally said Current discussion is about 3-D fighting games that started 3-D. Sounded redundant.

Yeah, I'll admit that one but still no reason for X to fag the thread up with his retarded adittude.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

You already fagged the thread up by being a moron who can't read. Who cares what X does at this point.




Posted by Roger Smith

Well, since there's no point in arguing with you and baby gorilla I guess I'll go lay down.




Posted by Prince Shondronai

Arcade version? Arcade version, please?!




Posted by G-Sides

i've always blown *** at street fighter :( new virtua fighter plz




Posted by Linko_16


Quoting Prince Shondronai: Arcade version? Arcade version, please?!


Hasn't Street Fighter always been in arcades?



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: new virtua fighter plz


What's wrong with VF5? It ****ing rocks.

Also, more important than this: Bionic Commando. Maybe not more important, but more interesting to me personally.



Posted by WillisGreeny

Bloody Roar did well with 3D too, not just SC.




Posted by iluvgirlswithglasses

It'll probably be 3D cel shaded graphics with 2D gameplay.

At least, that's what I'm hoping for. And that's also what the trailer is suggesting (to me anyway)--there was no side-stepping or any other sort of 3D shenanigans.




Posted by Pit


Quoting Roger Smith: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballz

lol wut?

If you mean SC made it popular then yeah.


I love it how people like you go out of your way to take something I said out of context to make it seem I, of all people, to not know what I'm talking about, especially when it pertains to fighting games.

I'm sorry, I forgot a word. SC started AS a 3D fighting game.

Whatever, what's done is done. No more thread fagging up.

Hopefully the TWO DIMENSIONAL STREET FIGHTER won't shift into a THREE DIMENSIONAL FIGHTING GAME. Seriously, King of Fighters already shifted to 3D, and I didn't like it, hopefully they use 3D models, or just really detailed animations.



Posted by TendoAddict

Man I sure as hell hope they don't who[COLOR="White"]r[/COLOR]e this one to hell. I still remember all the rehashes.




Posted by Prince Shondronai


Quoting Linko_16: Hasn't Street Fighter always been in arcades?


Yes, but with recent trends in the arcade biz being what they are, many new games are going straight to consoles. I'm not sure how Street Fighter IV would perform in my store, but I'd love to give it a try!



Posted by Linko_16

Where is your arcade, anyway? I should know so I can visit if I'm ever in the area.




Posted by Prince Shondronai

Racine, Wisconsin. Hope you can come. I'll have this, Tekken 6, and Initial D V4 before too long, I hope.




Posted by Linko_16

I can't exactly head out there just for that reason, but I'll remember that just in case.




Posted by Big Boss

I am so happy.

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[SIZE=20][I][color=darkred]THE KING IS BACK!
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Posted by Pit


Quoting Big Boss: I am so happy.

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[SIZE=20][I][color=darkred]THE KING IS BACK!
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Sorry man, once this **** hits New York arcades, so many quarters will be wasted at china town, where the pros play. Can't wait to see you online



Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8208&Itemid=9

We're going to see it tomorrow. oh my ***




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

3D, ultra-realistic. Competitor to Virtua Fighter.




Posted by Ant

sigh, most likely.




Posted by Speedfreak

I wonder if this will be the first fighting game that actually resembles martial arts...but with fireballs I guess.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[quote=Speedfreak;790163]I wonder if this will be the first fighting game that actually resembles martial arts...but with fireballs I guess.
No way. We have Virtua Fighter for realistic fighting. To make Street Fighter true to real fightan, they'd have to prune pretty much every character's special moveset. The fun in Street Fighter comes from the exaggerated stereotypes and fantastical attacks.




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=The X;790164]No way. We have Virtua Fighter for realistic fighting.

Notice I said "first fighting game" and not "first Street Fighter game".




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[quote=Speedfreak;790171]Notice I said "first fighting game" and not "first Street Fighter game".
... Yeah, and the Virtua Fighter games already have close resemblance to martial arts.




Posted by Pit

Look at the trailer, they don't once move all around. They just rotated the camera, so I think it's gonna be 2d and pretty ridiculous, probably an upgrade on III.




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=The X;790201]... Yeah, and the Virtua Fighter games already have close resemblance to martial arts.

Eh, nevermind. Not really the time nor the place for this discussion.




Posted by Bebop


Quoting Big Boss: I am so happy.

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[SIZE=20][I][color=darkred]THE KING IS BACK!
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SWEET BONFIRE MAN WAS THE BEST CHARACTER IN STREET FIGHTER!



Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

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Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li and Dhalsim confirmed for Bra... Street Fighter IV. 2D gameplay, with 3D graphics.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

I like the style. Looks almost... comicbook-like.


I MEAN WOOOOOOOOOOO 2D YEAH




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

I loved it... until I checked out the crotch.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Kidding me? That's, like, the best part, man. It's like you can see his sack bulging though the cloth. That's, like, you know, a next-gen feature.




Posted by Pit

called it being 2D. They gave it away in the trailer, but people are so oblivious to how it pretty it looks that they don't notice that ken and ryu never once sidestep, they just go at each other in a linear way.




Posted by Ant

Ryu looks kinda weird. Ape like almost.




Posted by Borealis


Quoting Pit: called it being 2D. They gave it away in the trailer, but people are so oblivious to how it pretty it looks that they don't notice that ken and ryu never once sidestep, they just go at each other in a linear way.


Yeah, but it might not just be 2D. In the teaser, there's a huge open margin to analyze, where Ken kicks, and a black trail follows out of the playable 2D margin, and into the x-axis. My money's on 2.5D



Posted by Pit


Quoting Borealis: Yeah, but it might not just be 2D. In the teaser, there's a huge open margin to analyze, where Ken kicks, and a black trail follows out of the playable 2D margin, and into the x-axis. My money's on 2.5D


That's just a move, for looks, cause it looks pretty. A lot of things they do make it seem like it's 2.5, but even at that, they still never step out of the fixed line they're in. Even when they counter each others moves, and punch around each other, they're still on the same path.

"Though the screenshot doesn't answer this question outright, we can confirm that the game's graphics are polygonal but the gameplay is strictly 2D. There will be new moves, locations, and gameplay features, while the standard six button control scheme remains. Ryu and Ken return along with Chun-Li and Dhalsim, but beyond that the character roster is a mystery."

I hope its strictly 2D, sidestepping bull**** kills games



Posted by Borealis

Regardless, I kind of have an undying appeal for SF3's visuals, the high-quality pixelated 2D seriously turn me on. I would be more satisfied knowing that the movements and styling are exactly like 3, except in 3D, with no wild cards out of nowhere implimenting 3D gameplay elements, although I'm open to new features that wouldn't fail.




Posted by muffla

im not sure about the graphix, wile they are a good step up from sf II and III they look rather last gen.




Posted by Linko_16

... Is that picture all? Good to see what it looks like, but I thought we were getting some gameplay videos or something. Or at least some more pics.

Still awesome to see what it looks like, though.




Posted by Pit


Quoting muffla: im not sure about the graphix, wile they are a good step up from sf II and III they look rather last gen.


what?



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

A step up? haha, go back to those games and look again. It's quite a large jump.

Also, I don't think anyone honestly thought it's be 3D. Capcom is pretty ****ing stupid, but not THAT stupid. No one wants nor expects a full 3D SF a la Virtua.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

I don't see why people are advocating another sprite fighter. When was the last time one of those was multi-million seller? I'm gay for CVS2 and KOF, but it's not a profitable venture for Capcom. Plus, it's not like they could take Third Strike's visuals much further.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Indeed. Plus, Guilty Gear already has a lock on 2D sprites. Plus, I honestly don't want another sprite fighter, especially if it comes out on the 360.




Posted by Degeneration

LEEEAK
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=23407
[QUOTE]The graphics aren't the way they are in the teaser that everyone watched. The game's still pretty, but it has nothing of that ink-splashing or anything. Art direction is interesting. Unlike all the other 3D fighters, SFIV is not meant to be photo realistic.

Street Fighter IV runs at 60 frames per second.

Street Fighter IV will have online play.

The game takes place after Super Street Fighter II Turbo and before SFIII. The good news is that the character roster will be made of many old-school brawlers and some entirely new ones. There are two new girls on the list. We will probably not see any SFIII characters.

The stage you saw at 1Up, if you didn't figure out, is Chun-Li's Stage from SF2.

The excellent Parry system form SFIII is gone. The new system seems to be called Saving or Revenge (we're not sure about the name). We don't know exactly how it works, but it's built around cancels. And we do know we'll have another gauge to activate the Saving/Revenge stuff, besides the usual Super Gauge.

Supers are there (although they didn't decide yet if it will be like in SSF2T or SFIII), and now they've put another moves called Ultras. These makes your character throws a auto combo with tons of moves. It's like a custom combo ... except by the custom part.

Shen Long may appear in the game. We are NOT kidding.

The consoles are not decided yet, really. But, assuming that SFIV will have online play, we can obviously think of Xbox 360 and PS3 (duh). It's very likely that we'll see an arcade version without online mode too, and our sources told us that Capcom could put some test machines in Japan arcades in Q2 next year.

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The source is unofficial, but there's reason to believe that this is legitimate info. Very recently, the site that originally provided it was taken down by force, and its creators are currently being attacked by a publishing company for posting it.




Posted by Speedfreak

So uh, what's up with the Wii resolution screenshots and that second screen not looking very next-gen? :D




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

Pretty sure some of the rumours are pure lie. Shen Long isn't even a character in the Street Fighter universe. It's a mistranslation.




Posted by Speedfreak

[IMG]http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7299/nuevoshenlonglu6.gif[/IMG]

I think Shenlong would be awesome in this game.




Posted by Big Boss

I'm half-glad Capcom played it safe and chose to keep the gameplay in 2D. It just makes sense. There are many 3D fighters out there, with only a few worth playing, so rather than compete in the same ring they chose to back the mechanics the series is known for. However, there's a part of me that wished Capcom would work on a fully-realized 3D Street Fighter that matched the faster pace and unique skill-based gameplay that has made the 2D games a fun experience since its inception.

Still, if those rumors are true, I'm already more excited. I never took to Street Fighter III characters, and didn't play the series enough to appreciate parrying. If most of the original 8 come back (don't care for the +4 added in Super), I'll be a happy camper.




Posted by Ant

I really hope they keep the parry system in. It added a whole other level of skill that no other fighter has taken into account.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

Parries alleviated the dominance fireballs had in II, and who can forgot the epic that Daigo pulled at EVO 2002...




Posted by Borealis

Oh my, imagine how detailed Chun-Li's muscular legs are gonna be...

*jizz*




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: The game's still pretty, but it has nothing of that ink-splashing or anything.


Yeah, no ****. What the hell?



Posted by Prince Shondronai

People would have liked that for awhile, but gotten tired of it. There'd have been tons of complaints after a few months about the game trying to be too artsy-fartsy when it's just supposed to be about the fighting. Artistic creativity can be a distraction sometimes.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Obviously. But I mean, who really expected that **** to be in the game?




Posted by Borealis

It would have been a nice touch, is all




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Nah, not at all. I'll be trying to block a kick and some ****ing swish comes out of nowhere and suddenly I get a foot to the face. Fun.




Posted by Tyler Durden

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/v/BfH6EmnmA5U&rel=1[/URL]

This should pass the time..




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

Having to watch some hawt azn get it on with a guy dressing up as Blanka was sooooo gross.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/VampiroV.Empire/SFIVscans.jpg
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High quality EGM scans from their SFIV cover story. There's actually a lot of really good info on the game and other stuff related to Capcom.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

The screenshot on page 5 is bol. The game looks really good, too.




Posted by Linko_16

Scaling down Chun-Li's delicious meaty thighs? The fools...

Sheng Long/Gouken in SF4? That would kick all kinds of ***.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Scaling down Chun-Li's delicious meaty thighs? The fools...

sounds like they're keeping them pretty thick to me.



Posted by Linko_16

Hey, maybe this generation I'll learn all about the saving and revenge systems instead of ignoring all that intricate stuff. Become an EXPERT PLAYER instead of just enjoying is casually. Now that it's online, there'll be a point to me learning it since I'll have people to play against.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

I got pretty good with the parry in SF3. Shame the timing window is so short that it was impossible to use online.




Posted by Speedfreak

So I have a choice between a 360 version with a bad controller, a possible Wii version with bad graphics or a PS3 version, which is a bad console.

This generation sucks.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: So I have a choice between a 360 version with a bad controller,


Street Fighter is only to be played on a arcade stick anyways. So problem solved in that regards.



Posted by Speedfreak

Fuck that for a game of soldiers (best phrase ever), I want a D-Pad.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Too bad all the d-pads suck.




Posted by S

Only thing wrong with controllers is that macros aren't allowed in tournaments.




Posted by Speedfreak

PS2/PS3 D-Pads are fine, the Classic Controller D-Pad would be ideal. Anything but the crap Saturn and 360 D-Pad is okay, really.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Never did like the PS2/3 d-pad. Plus, I'll never buy SF on it. And though the Classic controller probably has the best d-pad out of the three, it's still only okay. Arcade stick get.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

If SFIV turns out to be awesomely awesome, I'll be buying the Virtua Fighter 5 stick. All three consoles only have four main face buttons, and you really need six for Street Fighter.




Posted by Speedfreak

That's what shoulder buttons are for! I'd rather use a thumb and 2 index fingers to cover 6 buttons than just one thumb or play keyboard style.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: That's what shoulder buttons are for!


Haha, no thanks.



Posted by Borealis

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41C3JHN33HL._AA280_.jpg lolz




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[quote=Speedfreak;793442] I'd rather use a thumb and 2 index fingers to cover 6 buttons than just one thumb or play keyboard style.
Try playing Street Fighter with an arcade setup. It's the way all Capcom fighters were designed to be played, and it works so much better. Most of the top techniques can't even be pulled off without an arcade interface.




Posted by S

It's commonly accepted by most pros across many games that stick is the better interface.




Posted by Big Boss

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Posted by S

I personally prefer controller, but that's because I suck hard with stick.




Posted by WillisGreeny

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Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

It's better. Once you get used to it there's really no going back. I mean, if the game is designed for that specific controller that's really the only way to play it. Like X said, there's **** you can't even do without an arcade stick.




Posted by Speedfreak

*shrug* plenty of afterthought input devices end up being better than the one the game was designed around.

I've played with sticks, I just don't like using my wrist do to things my much more agile thumb is capable of doing.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: *shrug* plenty of afterthought input devices end up being better than the one the game was designed around.


Wiimote best SF controller ever CONFIRMED



Posted by Speedfreak

The Wii remote is built for greater fidelity on a few inputs, Street Fighter was designed around the archaic system of many single-function inputs to accomdate the concept of martial arts, which is extremely complex ;)




Posted by S

English: It sucks for fighting games.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Haha, yeah. I mean, the Wiimote has worked so well so far for that kind of stuff, right? So why not a fighter that's fairly complex and relies on immediate input? Sounds like it was built for the wiimote!


nah, I'll go with an arcade stick, thanks.




Posted by Speedfreak

You're the one that mentioned the Wii controller in the first place, dips[COLOR=lightgreen]h[/COLOR]it.

K so anyway. I always heard the pros liked those weird 6 button Sega Saturn controllers.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: You're the one that mentioned the Wii controller in the first place, dip****.


Yeah, sarcastically.



Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;794225]Yeah, sarcastically.

Yeah, so was what I said, hence it having nothing to do with anything.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

It had a lot to do with everything. If, say, SFIV ended up on the Wii it'd likely have Wiimote controls. That would be an "afterthought input device" and you liking the Wii a lot, and the stick being what the game is designed around... tada.




Posted by Pit


Quoting Speedfreak: You're the one that mentioned the Wii controller in the first place, dips[COLOR=lightgreen]h[/COLOR]it.

K so anyway. I always heard the pros liked those weird 6 button Sega Saturn controllers.


Yeah I have one. Actually four, 2 for Xbox and 2 for PS2... wait, actually 5. 6 button controllers with a nice D-Pad, unlike the PS2 or Xbox 360 Dpad. Works really good, when I went to the SFIII Third Strike tournament people had either those 6 button controllers or joysticks, and those were the people that got far in the tournament. However, joystick is the way to go. It's just feels so natural for a SF game.



Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;794258]It had a lot to do with everything. If, say, SFIV ended up on the Wii it'd likely have Wiimote controls. That would be an "afterthought input device" and you liking the Wii a lot, and the stick being what the game is designed around... tada.

I like the Wii about as much as I like it's 2.5 games. You're the one that brought up the Wii controller out of fucking nowhere, I was talking about platformers being better on D-pads than the arcade sticks they were originally devised on. Quit being such a gigantic gaylord.

[quote=Pit;794263]Yeah I have one. Actually four, 2 for Xbox and 2 for PS2... wait, actually 5. 6 button controllers with a nice D-Pad, unlike the PS2 or Xbox 360 Dpad. Works really good, when I went to the SFIII Third Strike tournament people had either those 6 button controllers or joysticks, and those were the people that got far in the tournament. However, joystick is the way to go. It's just feels so natural for a SF game.

I don't get it, the Saturn D-Pads are almost identical to the Xbox 360 ones. They're both discs on a pivot. When I played with one half the time I couldn't push any of the four compass directions exactly, it felt so weird.
What's so special about them?

Whatever, I can't really see myself getting this game. I don't play Street Fighter seriously so arcade sticks are out of the question and no matter what platform it ends up on it'll be gimped. Plus, I know it'll be the kind of game I get really interested in, buy and then realise none of my friends like it.

I'm still waiting for a fighting game that pulls the genre out of the friggin' stone age. The most radical fighter so far was Smash Bros 64 about ten years ago.




Posted by Pit

Xbox D-Pad is terrible dude. It gives you the hardest ****ing time pulling of special moves because it's so stiff.
http://www.talkxbox.com/articleimages/mbisonhw/1.jpg

these are the ones I'm talking about. I don't like the gay little hologram they places, but it makes the game play smoother.




Posted by Speedfreak

Is stiffness the same reason people don't like using the PS2 controller? Because I mean, I got a blister and then a callous on my thumb from it, but I thought that was some kind of Street Fighter rite of passage.




Posted by S

I've got a gnarly callous on my left thumb from PS2. Love it.




Posted by Speedfreak

After I got mine the D-Pad stopped being an issue. Are the arcade stick players just pansies or what? I can do all of Ryu's moves very easily on the PS2 pad, the motion and timing is almost identical to a smash attack.




Posted by S

You can do the initial moves but IAD's and Jump-installs are stupidly hard on pad; plus that's only one move. We're talking like... five hit combos that lead into a Super (That the player finishes the input before the moves actually appear on screen.), that depending on the character can incorporate Jump-installs and IADs.




Posted by Pit

You get a callous from playing it alot, has nothing to do whether the d pad ****ing sucks or not.

Don't even compare to a smash attack speedy. Jesus, why would you even bring smash into this.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Are the arcade stick players just pansies or what? I can do all of Ryu's moves very easily on the PS2 pad, the motion and timing is almost identical to a smash attack.


There's a ****ton you can't do on a controller. It's fine if you don't plan on being amazing good at the game, but if you do you need an arcade stick. Simple.



Posted by S

Eh, its not to say that stuff simply cannot be done. It's just ****in' hard. A lower learning curve, coupled with a more difficult and equivalent return, versus a stick. I've seen some amazing Guilty Gear players on a normal PS2 controller.




Posted by Pit

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Posted by S

Punch, Kick, Slash, Hard-Slash, Dust.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

You sure as hell can't do stuff like piano keys or negative edge with a xbawks/PS2 pad. Speedfreak, when we talk technique, we're not talking about a Shoryuken or a Hadouken. It's more the way in which the game is played that's important, rather than the special moves.




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=The X;794364]You sure as hell can't do stuff like piano keys or negative edge with a xbawks/PS2 pad. Speedfreak, when we talk technique, we're not talking about a Shoryuken or a Hadouken. It's more the way in which the game is played that's important, rather than the special moves.

I know, I'm not a total noob. I was just referring to Big Boss not being able to do certain moves on a D-Pad.


[quote=Pit;794293]You get a callous from playing it alot, has nothing to do whether the d pad ****ing sucks or not.

Don't even compare to a smash attack speedy. Jesus, why would you even bring smash into this.

Coming from a guy who couldn't see the similarity in Mario Galaxy and the 2D games. CALM DOWN PIT.




Posted by Pit


Quoting Speedfreak:




Coming from a guy who couldn't see the similarity in Mario Galaxy and the 2D games. CALM DOWN PIT.




You mean in terms of power ups and short quick levels, then yeah it's similar to the 2D mario games. In terms of everything else, CALM DOWN SPEEDFRAK.



Posted by Speedfreak

NO YOU CALM DOWN, PIT.




Posted by Bebop


Quoting The X: I loved it... until I checked out the crotch.


And the background. Nice touch on the NPCs Cap.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Considering that's the only somewhat completed level and the game is only, what, 2% done, it's not so bad.




Posted by Fate

If you look at the picture carefully, the crotch part is most likely the lower part of his top considering his character design. It looks like either the lighting was bad or clipping occurred. Clipping is normal in 3D stuff.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Or, like everything else on the character, his dick is ****ing gigantic.




Posted by Fate

Well I most certainly wouldn't doubt that, I doubt it's his crotch.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

A man can dream...




Posted by Ant

Yeah, it's not like you have to make excuses for the man. He's got a major wang, give the guy a break.




Posted by Speedfreak

A Japanese man with a large phallus? Surely you jest!




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Ah, but that's exactly the point. It is japanese men developing the game after all.




Posted by Speedfreak

Ah yes. As proven by their lack of knowledge of how a large penis actually sticks out from the body!




Posted by Degeneration

MEGATON 2007: SF4 gameplay video.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/152406.html

Interesting! The idea of 2.5D makes perfect sense now. If other 2D fighting franchises take pointers from this game and follow suit with their next installments, the genre may not be on its last legs after all.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

is it just me or do those pauses in gameplay give the other guy more time to react? looks good anyways




Posted by Borealis

It does give them a couple quick moments to react, but I'm sure they'll work that out.

The game still looks horribly unpolished, to the point where it nearly resembled a last-gen game, visually; but it's mostly in movement and attacks where it shows undetailed, etc. It still looks good, but I understand they're still early in development, perhaps a little too early to be exposing gameplay footage, I think.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Looked all right to me. I honestly don't care if it looks great.




Posted by Ant

Ryu looks like a stupid ****ing ape.

do not want.




Posted by Linko_16

I was hoping they'd show off more than just Ryu and Ken, but I guess others must not be finished yet.

Graphically, I wonder if they're stylistically trying not to go too high-def. It kinda has this grungy look that perfect detail would ruin. Whatever the reason, looks fine to me, as long as the mechanics are working nicely.

I dunno if that rendition of Ryu's theme is an official track from the game, but it's almost TOO retro. It kinda clashes with the new 3D look for Street Fighter, at least in my mind. I hope all the music's not like that.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

I'm pretty sure someone just ran the track over the top of the video - it's Ryu's theme on Chun-Li's stage, and the 'Round 2' was definitely ripped right from Street Fighter II.

As for the gameplay - it almost looks like CPS-III running 3D graphics. Ken and Ryu seem to have to exact same supers as Third Strike, and even the same taunts. Coming from someone who's been playing Virtua Fighter 5 the past couple of days, the fighting looks a little archaic... But **** it, that's how Street Fighter is supposed to play.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

ryu looks like one of those infected from I Am Legend at the end. lol




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[IMG]http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/63791-New%20SFIV%20Character%20Jan%208thsmall.jpg[/IMG]

First new character. Stylistically, I think she'd look more at home in KOF, but then again, Third Strike had a Question/Rorschach knockoff and a black, upper-class English boxer. So who am I to judge?




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Looks like a female version of one of the Elite Beat Agents.




Posted by Linko_16


Quoting The X: Stylistically, I think she'd look more at home in KOF


Same thing I thought. Then again, Street Fighter underwent a drastic style change from II to III, so why not some new blood?

Kinda goofy-looking, but I won't pass judgment until I know more.




Posted by Degeneration

She'd fit in a little TOO well with the King of Fighters gang. It's a fresh design for Street Fighter, but KOF already has enough characters that look dressed for some kind of clown business meeting.




Posted by RadioStatic

looks awesome cant wait to play it




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

The original eight World Warriors are all back!









Chun-Li's thighs just got even more massive.




Posted by Ant

meh, more so looking forward to new characters.




Posted by Big Boss

Sweeeeeet. I'm loving the art style, and as long as they bring the 12, I don't care who else shows up.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

M Bison probably won't be back, since it's post-2, but Balrog, Vega and Sagat should be okay.




Posted by Roger Smith

o lawd, b dat sum akuma?




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Guile looks like a huge fag.




Posted by Ant


Quoting Big Boss: Sweeeeeet. I'm loving the art style, and as long as they bring the 12, I don't care who else shows up.


Well, you may or may not have heard but they're remaking SF2 already.



Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;814920]Guile looks like a huge fag.Yeah, what's with that pose? Looks like he's trying to show off his non-existant tits.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

It's the pose every nude model has done at one point or another. Seriously, gaaaaay.




Posted by Degeneration

Loads of images [url=http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1213478_1124.html]HERE[/url]




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

There's something about this game that's really ugly.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

I know what you mean. Maybe it's the quality of the scans, but the colours all seem to wash together and it's hard to make out what's going on in some shots. Plus, Ken and Ryu are on hyper-roid rage this time.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Yeah, I honestly expect this game to look hyper-vibrant, and so far it looks pretty muddy. And the roidrage thing is a bit of a turnoff. I get what they're going for, but it doesn't really work. Looks sorta stupid.

Honestly, I want it to look more like Wind Waker than this. Crisp and clean.




Posted by Pit

game looks pretty clear to me




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

[IMG]http://news.filefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/urutora01.jpg[/IMG]

Looks a lot clearer here. Guess it was just **** scanning. NEW CHARACTER GOES ON SHOW IN A FEW HOURS




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Could be better




Posted by ExoXile

I agree with Vamp.
I THINK THE JAPANESE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THIS INSTEAD.




Posted by Degeneration

SFIV is being developed by Capcom Japan, if that's what you mean.

Check [url=http://www.gamespot.com/arcade/action/streetfighteriv/images.html?sid=6185319]Gamespot[/url] for full-sized screenshots.




Posted by ExoXile

They are...?




Posted by Degeneration

Yep!

http://www.ps3vault.com/capcom-japan-to-develop-street-fighter-iv-2322

[quote]Since the announcement of Street Fighter IV there has been speculation as to who would be developing the game. Well Earlier today Sven the Sr. Director of Strategy posted on the official Capcom forums that Capcom USA will be outsourcing development to Capcom Japan. An excerpt from the post as follows:

"While CUSA owns the rights to Street Fighter, we have contracted Capcom Japan to handle its development (we felt they would, by far, do the best job with the title)."

It's in good hands.




Posted by GamerForce138

SF4 will be great. I am a long time Street Fighter fan. I have many a good memories of playing SF in the arcade with my friends.




Posted by Ant

Well, who was behind SFIII? I'd prefer the team that did that, instead of getting another SFII rehash.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

Capcom of Japan. Pretty sure the USA licensing is what caused the influx of Capcom VS... games.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

The game is going to be fine, they seem pretty passionate about the gameplay and its intricacies. Just not a fan of the graphical style quite yet. Though it'll likely improve.




Posted by Degeneration

gameplays from the IGN.
http://media.cheats.ign.com/media/768/768984/vids_1.html

I'm digging the visual style. I had doubts, but after seeing the videos, it really does look like a cool tribute to the game's 2D roots.




Posted by Pit

its not a tribute to the 2d roots, it plays like street fighter is supposed to play. Visuals changed, gameplay is intact




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Oh yeah, so the capcom blog is holding a poll to see what character you want put in. Needless to say I voted for Necro because I knew he'd be awful lonely down there at the bottom of the list.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

It was a toss-up between Dudley and Dan... I voted for Dudley in the end.




Posted by Ant

Wow, I thought Dan would have way more votes. How could people deny his awesome autograph signing skills? :(




Posted by Degeneration

Necro vs Dhalsim... That'd be cool to watch.

Dudley would be awesome if they don't bring Balrog back. Fei Long would be the token Bruce Lee ripoff, Mika is a perv's best friend, and Dan is the king of all joke characters. I don't give a crap about Sakura, but I guess she's popular. Decisions, decisions!




Posted by Ant

This newest trailer/gameplay footage from E3 has rekindled my interested in this game. Doesn't looked nearly as dumbed down as I was thinking it was going to be.

[youtube=zi5CG2rWiaI]zi5CG2rWiaI[/youtube]

video is only about 5 minutes long.




Posted by Speedfreak

A lot of these characters look terrible in 3D, particularly the faces. Meh, gameplay looks like a super-thin sugar coated shell over Street Fighter 3, which was basically another shell over Street Fighter 2. Typical Capcom, too scared to revolutionise anything. More like Street Fighter 2.4 if you ask me, not that my opinion counts for anything, I find 99% of fighting games utterly unplayable anyway.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

Holy ****, they totally changed Shinryuken and Final Atomic Buster. Nice going!

I also lol'd at the zoom-in for Guile's super. ADOM'S CROTCH MMM




Posted by Ant

Bison's crazy smile is just as crazy as you'd expect.

I'm still curious what characters from III or Alpha they'll bring over. The home version is supposed to be far superior than the Arcade version, so here's hoping it has a ****load more characters.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

I wouldn't be surprised if they keep the character count fairly modest.




Posted by BLUNTMASTER X

Having fewer characters, but all of them being pretty good is tons better than having tons of characters and having most of them be ****ty.

See: Street Fighter 2 / Marvel vs Capcom 2.




Posted by Pit

are Fei-Long. T.Hawk, Dee Jay, and Cammie gonna be in this... and spiderman?




Posted by Ant

There's a poll asking people what character they'd like to see on Capcom's "Unity" blog. Those 4 along with Dan and Ibuki are choices to have put in. I went with Ibuki to get some SFIII love in there.

Link
http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/blog/2008/07/14/vote_for_new_street_fighter_iv_characters_




Posted by Pit

Ibuki, Dudley, Charlie, Sodom, and Rolento should be in it. and wolverine.




Posted by Ant

I'd prefer Dudley over Balrog, that's for sure.




Posted by Linko_16


Quoting Pit: Ibuki, Dudley, Charlie, Sodom, and Rolento should be in it.


Agreed. I love seeing almost all my Street Fighter II favorites represented, but so far it's like they're acting as though Street Fighter III never happened.

Besides that, let's see some Sakura, Cammie, Fei Long, Dan and Akuma.

EDIT - the English coming from Ryu in the beginning seemed a little awkward, but at least they kept the attack names the same. I played some 3D King of Fighters game that changed absolutely everything to English, even the attack names, and it was a completely ridiculous-sounding game breaker.