What's going on? I made several threads on quite a few of my favourite topics in the Off Topic forum, and I was without warning given a two-year ban for doing so. I decided it would be better to not irritate some of Video Game Chat's longtime members by adhering to the posting standards of a commonly accepted member, and thusly, I read Xero's "Wasabi" thread and wrote my own posts in the style of that in order to avoid repurcussions as a result of any potential faux pas I was at risk of making. Unfortunately, despite acting in an identical manner to this individual, my threads were removed (with, unfortunately and foolishly on the behalf of the staff member who deleted them, no traces left) despite being serious, sober, well within the thread criteria laid out in VGC's rules and in the correct forum.
I would like to know - Why was I not allowed to discuss Coca-Cola while Xero's wasabi thread is left untouched? Is there a new rule for the Off Topic section which encourages condiment related discussion but strictly forbids any stair-perambulation, beverage-consumption or woodcutting banter? Please, enlighten me. I would like to know who was responsible for this and why they think they are following a rational course of action in doing so. If possible, the individual behind these practices should be removed from whatever place of power he or she occupies, as they are obviously incapable of holding the aforementioned position without abusing the privileges it entails.
If you're talking about the Coca-Cola Blak thread, I ousted it a long while ago. There weren't too many replies and the people didn't respond too seriously. My mod hammer has been benched recently, so as for caring, I don't.
Someone deleted your posts in Wacko as well.
Oh, well, in that case, I've nothing to do with this.
I haven't touched anything of yours, but if you get banned for no reason again or need some other kind of assistance, I for one will help you out if you want to PM me.
What waz da threads name? Here's a few deletions.
[code]Fate 12:49, 29th May 2007 Post by Klarth Removed Thread: [MGS4 heads to the 360. Official.]
The Judge 21:29, 31st May 2007 Post by Kaira Soft Deleted Thread: [my pok
Yeah, I recall there being a post of his that was completely irrelevant, so I deleted it. But a thread? Uh, no.
All of his were in Off-Topic, but if they don't show up in the log I donno. I do remember seeing them there, because I was about to to his Coca Cola one but it was deleted before I could load the page.
Yeah, I was wondering why you got banned earlier tonight...MOD ABUSE LOL
I'm honestly of the opinion that there's some serious hierarchial reorganisation necessary here on VGC. I'm sure none of you have forgotten the fiasco with Admiral Anthrax a few years ago (it's all resolved these days, though, we're cool). I believe we might be facing a new one of those right here and now depending on how things turn out in the next few days.
I'm not reluctant to admit I've been an annoying troll for the past however long, but hey, I managed for an age without acting all up in thy grills just to elicit a response. Fun's over. Confrontational epiphany time, kiddies.
I think I've only deleted one of your posts in the music board lately, and that's it. Guess someone's being a dick for the sake of it.
I think it's probably Dexter. He was doing this a few months ago and had banned you before as well. If you weren't unbanned I could have checked.
But yeah, seems there's some sort of vendetta here. I would call mod abuse as well for deleting threads in the Wacko Board.
Threads deleted in the Wacko Board? WTFUX...
Anyway, a lot of times I see posts or threads by myself or other people removed, meanwhile there are less relevant threads or posts in the same thread or board mine or someone else's was removed from. It does happen to Klarth a lot.
And I'm always right.
Yeah, I had this chat with Klarth not more than 2 or 3 months ago and Dexter was the culprit then too. It seems objective moderation is beyond him.
That reminds me, why are you unbanned again?
Jesse wanted him to ask a super mod to unban him, and he gave Dexter permission to unban him when he asked.
Well, clearly Dexter's judgement has been fogged up lately, so I'll deal with it. :D
rebanned
Ho knows who to go to to get unbanned!!! Dexter has compassion for n00bies, just like I do!!! :D:D:D:D:D
I guess I really don't need to go making threads in the mod board, since it's pretty obvious this is mod abuse. Klarth said he wasn't even trolling, they were generally fine, rule abiding topics with actual content, even if the topics were devised to be similar to current OT topics. The personal bias here has gone far beyond what should be allowed, as this is a recurring problem, and Klarth has actually gotten banned twice by Dexter eventhough he broke no rules.
demod
-sniff sniff-
I smell a new SMOD election coming on.
I seem to remember coming in second place last time one of these was held.
Dexter won. Hint hint. Women can't make decisions. :)
Dexter's not even defending himself. Though I figure deleting Klarth's posts, banning him, and then leaving is a pretty good implication that he doesn't want to be a super mod anyways.
Abusing his powers? What an *******!
Who does that? honestly..
Mild power abuse that doesn't really harm normal members? Okay, we'll live.
Power abuse in which you're harassing a regular member by deleting posts and banning them for no reason? That's not quite as acceptable.
I'm surprised it was Dexter who was doing that. I had no idea he didn't like Klarth.
I'm sure there's some mythical reasoning behind it. Like he's try to help klarth be free of VGC or some crap.
[quote=Omni]I'm surprised it was Dexter who was doing that. I had no idea he didn't like Klarth.
You're certainly not alone in your shock!
Shouldn't something be happening by now?
I don't blame NotSexyDexy, I would ban 90% of you idiots because most of you make idiotic one or two word posts, all that **** and idiotic subjects that have ZERO value, educational or entertainment wise would be deleted and repeat offenders banned !!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
You all can do better, Jesse needs to review all deleted threads and restore them if in fact they are worthy content, no moderator should be allowed to delete threads from the database, only Jesse should have that power !!!! :mad: :mad:
Though we could go on a demod rampage, it just wouldn't be the same without Dexter actually present.
This is ridiculous. Klarth has been a naughty member. He made tons of worthless threads, ranging from 'have you ever had a really good sawhorse' to 'going upstairs vs. going downstairs'. They were lame. I see no need to defend myself on this matter. I'm a loose mod, I let a lot go, and I also enjoy having Klarth around. He just needs to shape up sometimes and that was definitely one of those times.
Those threads were hardly different from the current OT threads asking about random, stupid stuff. Klarth said he made other threads with more appropriate topics but they were deleted. He then made the other ones asking silly questions because that stuff is considered fine by any other member, and he wanted to see the mod response to it. You deleting them was pretty much just taking the bait.
Honestly Dexter, take a look around. Do you honestly think those thread types are uncommon and not tolerated? Besides, you don't even warn him or give a specific reason. You just delete the posts and ban him. If it were obviously terrible threads or some new, random member then there'd probably be no questions asked, but this is Klarth.
You overreacted, and on Klarth specifically.
You're turning this into a bigger deal than it really is. I knew the ban wasn't going to last more than an hour, at the most. I don't mind a few threads like that every once in awhile but so many at once is just too much. Him toying with what he can get away with was what I expected he was doing. I didn't overreact. I did my job. Klarth's just being a punk.
That's because Klarth is exactly the type to toy with how things work.
Anyhow, this isn't a big deal and people shouldn't get up in arms for threads being deleted or too many threads being made. Relax, everyone. No need for arguing or mod-nazis or angry VGC citizens.
Klarth still says the original few threads he made weren't at all just to see what he could get away with, they were just normal threads which were deleted. Posts he made in the Wacko Board were also deleted. A board meant specifically for posting whatever spam you want as long as it doesn't break the rules.
And also, if you wanted to slap him on the wrist or something, you should've made the ban just for an hour or two, not a 2-year ban.
While I don't get the Wacko Board delete, I could kind of imagine the the process Dexter had. I mean, who the hell cares about a sawhorse or walking on stairs? People responded to the Wasabi thread before I could delete it or move it, and since it got serious responses it stuck. I could easily imagine Klarth making the thread titles only to say in each thread something simple like, "Well, I have" or, "I prefer walking up instead," or something else ridiculously simple. I mean, wtf? Klarth knows he doesn't care, we all know he doesn't care, he's just toying about like he always does. No big deal, let's just end this crap.
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Omni disagrees: Stickm to the Wacko board if you're gonna be a moron.
Now a brain dead idiot like this guy in management here is another major problem, having forum trolls in a position of power is a major blunder Jesse, you guys will make any idiot that posts here a lot and trolls a moderator and that is sheer lunacy, this kid is a perfect example of this.
Some of his threads are a little bizarre, but I've seen way worse topics that didn't get deleted and had no serious posts in them.
AND FURTHERMORE, WHY HAVEN'T I BEEN MADE A SUPERMOD AGAIN
wait, this thread isnt about that yet? aww
I think that Dexter overreacted, in the fact he deleted the threads in multiple successions and then wont discuss it with an open mind, however he shouldn't be demodded or ostracized or have the h8 put on him, cause that Dexter of ours does do a lot of good in these parts!
imo when a member gets banned, i'm pretty sure they should know why they were banned :s i've made some pretty lame threads and posts that've gone unchecked... asdfsadf;;; "well i wuz gonna unban him" isn't a very reasonable excuse for banning a member. if you wanted to get across that he was pushing it you should've just pmed him a warning like mods are supposed to do before they ban someone ;]
lol but who gives a **** about my opinion :\
:)
I've been called out.
I'm still of the view that I should have been let off on a technicality, and although I think Dexter can be a bit of a silly moderator sometimes (no offense intended, Dex), I don't harbour anything against him and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dislike me. Sure, that doesn't make sense considering the normal posts of mine he's pruned ([url=http://vgchat.com/showthread.php?t=21424]deletion log here[/url] comes to mind), but I can't deny the fact that they see me trollin' and they hatin'. Patrollin'. I wasn't even given a reason when I saw "BANNED UNTIL 2009 ENJOY YOUR SIBERIAN GULAG".
Also, I still haven't got an explanation for my last ban - I was in eastern Europe with no net access for a week, and I came back to VGC to find I'd been banned halfway through my trip. By Dexter. Hey dude, you're so uncool. But hey, that's alright - like, there's no need to get uptight.
Contradictions are fun.
Ban Xero for making a thread about wasabi.
[quote=Fate]I could easily imagine Klarth making the thread titles only to say in each thread something simple like, "Well, I have" or, "I prefer walking up instead," or something else ridiculously simple. I mean, wtf?
Oops, didn't notice this. No, I actually put time and effort into the first posts of each topic. As I said, I was deliberately trying to reproduce the style of that ****ty thread about wasabi (actually, check the deletion log in there too, you might find a few nice Dexter-related Christmas presents. Happy Kwanzaa!), and each post was several paragraphs long. This wasn't a case of "hmmm let's make a spammy one-liner, no, this isn't going to get deleted at all ever! Hurr."
It was pretty gay. But we're cool.
I think of Klarth as VGC's bastard son. Who, oddly enough, has multiple people trying to parent him.
who cares if it was gay or spammish, christ, vgc would be a hell of a lot funner if incidents like this didn't happen :\ silly threads should be allowed to occur sometimes without getting banned making a thread about it etc etc etc
i mean, i can understand if it was total spam for the soul purpose of spamming but something stupid and fun like that shouldn't have to be deleted. have some fucking fun, damn :s
Klarth, how about you get rid of the goofy signature, that would help your case man, no one will even read your idiotic posts with that crap there !!!
Sorry Xero, I am with Klarth on this one. Wasabi thread was pretty lame.
Well I'm sorry.
Like I said before, I wasn't trying to create a thread just to create a thread. I was just trying to create a topic people could discuss about.
Delete it.
No need for that. Klarth just shouldn't be punished for making a similar thread.
I AM NOT FINISHED HERE