SSB Brawl General Discussion

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

For those of you unaware, the official Brawl site relaunched, and they're giving us a new tidbit of information every weekday for the next... who knows how long. The announcement of Mario and Link was no surprise, but the past three updates have unveiled a new item, the Gooey Bomb, went into a little more detail on Pit, and today's update has revealed some of Pit's special moves.

Discuss the announcements here.

WHOA TODAY'S NEWS IS BIG

I do kinda hate the fact that they keep trickling it out like this, but whatever. Today's was bigger than the rest, even though I'm particularly fond of the Gooey Bomb.

OH *** WHAT ARE PIT'S FORWARD AND DOWN SPECIALS!? I MUST KNOW AAAAAAARGH!

Man, I would've NEVER guessed that's what his up and neutral specials do!

Ooh, news. Huzzah!

Hey, Yasunori Mitsuda is listed in the Music section... he worked on Chrono Trigger. Other games mentioned are Kingdom Hearts, Golden Sun, Pikmin, NiGHTs (though, there's a new game coming out soon anyway, so NiGHTs' appearance wouldn't be all that surprising), Contact, Magical Starsign, Grandia, Wild Arms, and Animal Crossing. Are characters from those games going to appear?! Or are they just helping with the remixing of themes? Or, are they supplying bonus themes (like the Mach Rider one from SSBM)? 'Cause, I'd buy it just to play as Crono or Magus. Heck, I'd buy it just to torture Captain Olimar and the Pikmin. xD

most impresseive, i showed it to my friends they're making ssbb their primary religion (lol jk)

It appears they still can't make circles. NEXT-GEN!

FINAL SMASH

I wonder how we do it.

PRESS A+B OF COURSE!

It'd better be simple. I don't want any Fatality combos in my SSBB.

That wouldn't make any sense, it would be completely counter-intuitive.

link rocks man...... shiat !!!! jiggly puff is gay ... why not put squirtle or something.....did they really think that sleep move was all that ???

Cracker Launcher?

What a great name for a weapon. :o

weird, guess it explodes in a certain area then spreads around. so the damage I'm guessing is minimal, but annoying.

You can run and shoot the Super Scope now! It's a jillion times more annoying!

... apparently they don't know what "cracker" can mean in North America. Because I could've sworn Alastor's post was referencing that deleted post. I had a weird mental image of a gun that shoots white guys. Oh wow.



oh, but cool weapon. The effects look pretty nice.

So they just threw up some more music. Yoshi's Story stuff, which might mean the return of the Yoshi's Story stage, which is fine, I loved the disappearing clouds.

Also, the music kicks a great amount of ***. I'm now confident SSBB will have the best soundtrack of anything we see on the Wii.

Best music of all time*

It'll be a greatest hits for Nintendo. The MGS stage better have a badass rearrangement.

Huh, didn't quite expect it to sound like that. Pretty **** good.

Catchy tune. I've never even played Yoshi's Story, though, so I don't know what the original is supposed to sound like. :s

Like that, but more bit-tastic. It's a really sad song, especially the Yoshi chorus at the end. :(

Yeah, I'm glad they included the yoshi voices. makes it sound a lot more like the original.

Huh, Groudon confirmed as a new Pokemon that releases from the Pokeball. Seems like a bigger version of Moltres on SSBM.

I hope he stomps around kicking up ****. That would be awesome.

Oh **** yeah, Groundon. I hope we get multiple forms of Deoxys or Palkia and Dialga.

Today's Japan Time: Kirby and Pikachu.

Pikachu has fingers now!

And people say the Wii has bad graphics.

two gamecubes oll

Pikachu's looking good.

Update!
THEY REVEAL THE CONTROLLER OPTIONS

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_01.gif[/IMG][SIZE=4]Four Kinds of Control[/SIZE]

The Nintendo Wii really is a versatile piece of hardware.
I mean, when it comes to controllers, there are pretty much four different types.

I guess I have no choice but implement them all!

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various01/various01_070608a.jpg[/IMG]

There’s no need to be confused about what does what—just choose the play style you prefer!

I suppose I would recommend the Nintendo GameCube controller, though. I like the feel of that powerful rumble.

Still, try out the other controls—they definitely give you a fresh experience.

Hmm? How do you do smashes and dashes with just the Wii Remote?
If I get the chance to tell you, I will.

WIGGLE REMOTE TO DO SMASH

DO A COUNTER-CLOCKWISE SEMI-CIRCLE MOTION TO UNLEASH THE LEFT SMASH

DO A MOTION LIKE SEAL 5 IN DAWN OF SORROW TO JUMP

Thought of this image for some reason. I guess the first three panels make me think of people using the Wiimote for all of these extravagant moves, while most of us are more like the fourth panel. All boring, with our GCN remotes.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/pza_alastor_sc/Just_incase_you_were_wondering_by_H.png[/IMG]

I was gonna lol'd, then I realised Zelda doesn't say NAYRU'S LOVE. :(

HADOUKEN

SHORYUKEN

TATSUMAKI SENPUU KYAKU

Oh yeah, 2D fighters rock my world.

Delfino Plaza looks amazing.

on google images if you search super smash bros brawl on the second page theres a pic thats says newcomer ridley i sorta think that would be cool

I'd say there's about a...5% chance of that happening.

There's also a million Shops of Kraid, Diddy, Dedede, Capt. Olimar, Bomberman, Banjo-Kazooie, Batman, the Hulk, Spider-Man, Tatl, Tingle, the ****ing Four Giants from Majora's Mask, Goombas, ReDeads, Metroids... list goes on.

[quote]Kraid

Hahaha. Now that, resize or not, would be impossible. The fat tub of lard can barely even walk, and those little itty bitty two-fingered arms of his would be good for nothing.

What about the GIANTS from Majora's Mask? All FOUR of them as ONE PLAYABLE CHARACTER. Seriously, that's a search result on the first page if you search "smash bros brawl."

Edit:

Today's Japan Time: NEWCOMER - FOX

Ah well. Nice screenshot of Fire Fox in there, and it looks like the change I noticed on his appearance is confirmed (green thing on his eye).

RUN! FLY! MOVE BOLDLY! FOR SUCH MOVES ARE THE ESSENCE OF FOX!

Huh, well, that was uninformative. Though his forwardb is purple now. What a faghat.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/fox/fox.jpg[/IMG]

YIFF YIFF YIFF

I quite like this design.

I don't like it. He looked better in Adventures. His fur wasn't so boringly flat and skin-like. It actually moved when the wind blew against it.

His face looks ****ed up.

I agree, I liked the Adventures look better. Not like they couldn't pull it off. Plus he wouldn't have that jazz on his head.

Melee Fox looked much better compared to now Fox.
I don't like the way Nintendo went with this cartoony type theme.

Eh, the Command one is starting to grow on me.

New Japan Time is just Yoshi's Island. Though I guess it's pretty cool how it changes seasons, and for what it is, it looks nice.

Is that some Raphael's moon I see?

http://www.ssb-center.com/images_articles/fakes/SSBM%20FAKE/supersmashbrosrevolution.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/Kefka691/Smashbrawl-2.png
if that was real i would never leave the house

My point exactly. :(

Crap shops are crap.

Hmm, off the 2nd list I'd say the one's that would most likely have a chance of being in the Brawl would be:

Soma Cruz, Sonic, Megaman, Crono, Viewtiful Joe and MAYBE Ridley. That's just me though.

Soma would actually be pretty cool.

Not sure exactly what weapons he would have, but some different demons could be used for B-attacks.

Have you even considered that that's probably just stage music? Kraid was in Melee, y'know. Doesn't seen too far fetched that Ridley'd be in the background of a new Metroid stage. Ridley in the background seems MUCH more likely than a shrunken, playable Ridley.

Friday's Update. Just Samus. :p:

Samus is looking pretty sexy.

Ridley would be beast(no pun intended). i also heard from one of my legally insane friends that some Golden sun charcters(EX: Isaac, Garet, Saturos) would be in Brawl... that would also be beast.

I know its unreliable, hence the LEGALLY INSANE part!


And my friend is as far from Genius as you could possibly get, even though Golden Sun is ****ing awesome

Monday's Update!

[SIZE=4]Link: Final Smash[/SIZE]

<Triforce Slash>

Is he using the Triforce to slash enemies? Or is it the Triforce doing the slashing?

You don’t have time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/link/link_070618a.jpg[/IMG]

Light shoots out from the Triforce on the back of Link’s hand, striking his opponents!

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/link/link_070618b.jpg[/IMG]

Link dashes into the fray! Enemies are trapped by the Triforce.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/link/link_070618c.jpg[/IMG]

He strikes repeatedly with lightning speed!

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/link/link_070618d.jpg[/IMG]

And then comes the finishing strike! SKRAAAAH!

If you suffer this fate, there is little hope for you. But remember: damage alone will not finish you in Smash.

If you’re lucky enough to strike solid ground, you just might be saved.

they make it sound as if it's an instant kill basically.

SKRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Dunno if you guys have seen yet. Also Tonight update was Wario...Pssh Pikachu's Final Smash > Wario since we've already seen Wario :p:

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_08.gif[/IMG][SIZE=4]Pikachu: Final Smash[/SIZE]

<Volt Tackle>

What is Volt Tackle? It’s Pikachu’s Final Smash!

That pretty much describes it. You don’t need an Electric Ball to unleash it, but you do need a Smash Ball.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pikachu/pikachu_070619a.jpg[/IMG]

Volt Tackle is unleashed! Pikachu transforms into a ball of light.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pikachu/pikachu_070619b.jpg[/IMG]

You can now control that ball of light for a brief period.
Hunt them! Hunt them down!

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pikachu/pikachu_070619c.jpg[/IMG]

It’s quite speedy while airborne. This...can be dangerous.

It flies through the air wildly, so take care not to lose control.

If it gets cancelled in midair, something terrible will happen.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pikachu/pikachu_070619d.jpg[/IMG]

Ah... This doesn’t look good.

This thread is giving me deja vu

thats a good smash attack for pikachu, Volt tackle nice, links attack rocks though triforce o yeah !!!! can link get any cooler ? i think so..

Did you notice that thing dangling from Fox’s waist?
What is that?

the reflector. moron.

People need to stop using this thread.

Oh, and Zeta is dumb. lol

Oh yeah, it is, isn't it. Well combine the other thread with this one then.

Zelda Revealed

[quote]
[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_09.gif[/IMG][SIZE=4]Zelda[/SIZE]

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/zelda/zelda.jpg[/IMG]

Just like Link, Zelda

Whoo, so, Zelda's back. No hint or mention of Shiek, though.



oh shi

not big enough.

hmm, both sounds like the best answer.

This requires the ultimate in Photoshop skill.

ROGER SMITH, COME FORTH AND FULFILL YOUR DESTINY!

[B]hawt

I'll be glad if there's no Sheik, really. =/[/b]

[B]Now all we need is fscking badical TP Ganondorf with his own moveset. :([/b]

WITH SWORD THIS TIME? It's more likely than you think.

**** the sword. Classic trident all the way.

[B]ganon = ghay

sry :([/b]

Is that Zelda's bra?! Holy **** Hyrule has advanced technology for a medieval period.

No, I'm sorry. There is no possible way for Zelda to be hotter. Oh, and "I told you so" about them revealing new-ish characters soon.

I highly doubt there won't be a Shiek. Even if they're using the TP model. I mean, Zelda isn't exactly using moves she had in TP, is she?

New song: Ocarina of Time Melody.

Fukken awesome.

New Zelda song started out "wtf is this, this isn't awes- holy ****" and pretty much ended with me having sex with like twenty chicks at the same time.

I'm seriously enjoying what they're doing with the music.

I MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE TO BUY A GAME SOUNDTRACK.

What songs were in there? Song of Storms, Epona's Song, Zelda's Lullaby, Saria's Song...

I came regardless. I wonder where they'll use that song?

It'll just be one of two or three Zelda songs for all of the Zelda stages, I'm sure. They hopefully won't go without a new remix of the classic theme.

There's also Adventure Mode to consider. I wonder how expansive that mode is going to be in Brawl.

I haven't gotten to hear it yet. Only way I can use computer is using safe mode with networking, which doesn't have sound. :(

Oh. My. ***. That was ****ing awesome, literally.

since when was Zelda a brunette?

I can't remember if she was in TP but regardless, I don't like it that much.It makes the whole colour scheme of the character even more dull than it already is.

That new music preview gave me mad nostalgia.

Brunette Zelda is superior. Makes her stand out from Peach and Samus.

Ohh, banana!

KONG! KONG! DONKEY KONG!

The Banana Peel FTW :p:
It'll probably make your character dazed when you step on it

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_01.gif[/IMG][SIZE=4]Banana Peel[/SIZE]

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/images/item04/item04_070627a.jpg[/IMG]

Yes, banana peels... You don

When I read it I could've sworn it was already in Melee. So I guess it fits in perfectly.

That last picture with kirby is really cute :(

When was the last time someone actually slipped on a banana peel? I mean, wtf

I agree with Dark Link. You probably get a daze similar or identical to the broken shield thing. I wonder if you take like 1-2% damage, also? :cool:

Man, I think I'm more looking forward to the writing at this point than what the site is actually revealing.

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Silver] Slipping and falling on your backside... Ouch![/COLOR][/FONT]

You’re gonna slip! Trust me, you’rSKRAAAAAAH!!!

SEE?! I ****ING WAS TELLING YOU YOU'RE GONNA ****ING SLIP AND YOU WENT AND DID IT ANYWAYS!

A-are you okay?

I can imagine planting one of these near an edge and then spiking an opponent into it. They should make almost as handy a target as motion-sensor bombs, and twice as hilarious.

The character-selection screen is still a secret!

...but if you just choose your name from the list, BAM!

Not nearly as good as the past few updates have been, but whatever. Saving controller configuration is a nice touch, though. Hope it allows saving to the Wiimote in the end.

Ha, well if you save to the wiimote that means you won't be using the GC controller. So, depending on if the Wiimote+nunchuck configuration works it may not even matter :cool2:

also in b4 darklink copy pasta

Oh boy! I can type my name in just like I would on a cell phone! How... inconvenient. ****ing retarded. But at least names have a purpose now. Also, hopefully they're not as obtrusive as they were in Melee. I'd rather them not be on the screen throughout the whole match.

Oooooooooh, yeah I guess that could work.

Actually, I'd prefer them to be on screen still. If you suddenly get blown away and lose track of your character the names help you locate them quicker.

Eh. Renders the cloaking device useless. Depending on what map you were on, the stealth part actually came in handy, not just the no damage part.

If you haven’t held it in, it’ll be a cute little poot.

So the Side Special is kinda like Jigglypuffs side special in melee I'm guessing. And the fart thing...wow. Guess that one is like Roy's charged up B

**** YES, YOU ARE THE BEST JAPAN TIME EVER!

That’s fine. He’ll help calm your mental state.

Pretty **** good Japan Time.

Wow, so now I'm pretty sure we'll see almost every f[COLOR="Lime"]u[/COLOR]cking conceivable character in some way or form now.

basically two Japan Tiems in one? **** yes. Assist Trophies are the ****.

You

Since when does a dog blocking your view calm you? ****'s frustrating.

[LEFT]oh, sakurai!
[/LEFT]

[quote]To be honest, there are a LOT of characters that offer a slightly different flavor this time around. If you think they’re all going to be the same as they have been, it’ll be rough for you.

Oh man, the tourneytards are gonna be ****ed.

Bowser looks pretty badass.

Bowser looks ****ing awesome.

This Bowser has totally erased my memories of any comic relief versions that were used in Mario Sports. :D

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/Kvar/GIGABOWSERJESUSFUKKENCHRIST.png[/IMG]

OH SHI-!

lol Look who's baaaaaack

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_10.gif[/IMG][SIZE=4]Bowser: Final Smash[/SIZE]

<Giga Bowser Transformation>

What?! You can control Giga Bowser from Super Smash Bros. Melee?!

It

Giga Bowser looks so much ****ing better. Wow, so awesome.

guys, I heard a new smash bros is com-

oh **** wtf

WTF

I heard brawl tier list is gonna be bowser first and then fox and falco, someone co- oh ****

he looks mean

He is huge! That must mean he has huge guts!

It looks like he's holding Wario. It'd be cool if you could grab people :(

more like wario is gonna throw bowser


... or **** on him

or poot cutely on him

Bowser's actually becoming a respectable villain again? WHO WOULDA THOUGHT IT

Giga Bowswer is actually Ganon and Bowser's illegitimate child

eh, a little bit about controller discussion

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_01.gif[/IMG][SIZE=4]Smash Attacks[/SIZE]

There

Do you really have to copy paste it?

In any case, this pretty much assures that I won't make a habit out of using just the wii-mote.

Yeah, it seems like the Wiimote's not doing anything special with it's capabilities. Ah well.

Still its not bad if thats all you have

Ant: Yes I do! Because some people are lazyasses :p:

Super flatness FTW

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_09.gif[/IMG][SIZE=4]Bridge of Eldin[/SIZE]

This area appeared in the Wii game The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. If you’ve played that title, you ought to remember this place.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/images/stage05/stage05_070706a.jpg[/IMG]

The terrain is flat. I mean, really flat.

And the enemy leader, King Bulblin, makes cameo appearances. Occasionally, he uses bombs to blast holes in the stage.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/images/stage05/stage05_070706b.jpg[/IMG]

Run! It’s King Bulblin and Lord Bullbo!

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/images/stage05/stage05_070706c.jpg[/IMG]

Uh-oh! There’s a hole...

But don’t worry. The missing chunk will be magically transported via portal to fill in the gap.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/images/stage05/stage05_070706d.jpg[/IMG]

Whoa! Just like the original game!

Huh, of all the places they picked there? That's interesting. Still, looks awesome...like everything else in this **** game :(

Nice, but I'm hoping this isn't the only Zelda stage. :(

Still no Halberd info.

What the ****, Nintendo? What the ****?

I nominate Stallord's boss room for the other stage. ****ing epic Smash-Spinner action!

I really like the contrast that comes with cutesy, simple characters such as Pikachu and Kirby running around these incredibly realistic (and not to mention beautiful) stages. I'm really liking this new stage as well. I'm also half-expecting Kirby to step on one of the horns of that behemoth and deflate like a balloon. Har.

That's one hell of a nice looking stage. Plus, it's flat and not overly stupid. This is good.

BRIDGE OF ELDIN 5 STOCK NO ITEMS

Except tournyfags wouldn't go for it because the stage changes and breaks apart.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. The bridge chaos will probably make this stage epic.

I'm sure there will be a nice, flat, boring stage they'll love.

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;617367]Except tournyfags wouldn't go for it because the stage changes and breaks apart.

rainbow cruise and pokefloats are tourna playable

the stage changes and breaks apart

I've never understood that. I always thought tourney players would ***** about the autoscrolling stages. Why are PF and RC exceptions?

In all my times lurking SmashBoards I've never heard of this.

I haven't had a chance to play Twilight Princess yet, but the stage looks cool and very fun to play.

don't forget the kirby past stage!

tournyfag here again, tournies here allow a strikeout from stages, I strikeout final destinationvampsorry.

as far as I know, every stage is playable, excluding mlg and their gay ****, every tourny in NY I've played in allows every stage except the temple which drags on matches, or allows fox to just run around till the time is up, flatzone is just bad random with camping and fox kills, fourside is just a fox kills, or stall/camp, brinstar is a falco kills as well as timed camping, and no ledge to hang on, icy mountain is just a ****ty stage, big blue is just a ****ty stage, terminal bay is a left to right camp game for *******s and the ledge off set is around 1:4 or 1:5, and yoshis island 64 is impossible to kill, and the colors are **** and hurt your eyes

and tournyfags do like to pick pokefloats

all tournyfags never play with items

lurk more, every state is different, all tourny rules aren't the same

Uh, no, sorry. Like I said, it's common knowledge FD is the only stage they play. Stop making **** up.

Never seen a Smash tournament battle taking place anywhere but FD.

This game looks too amazing to wait for anymore. :( I'm sure that's not the only Zelda stage. I still haven't gotten tolisten to that OOT tune, but it's probably for an OOT stage. ;| I'd expect more epic raw awesomeness that was TP's Hyrule Field.

All I saw in those links was Final Destination with no items. What was the point of posting that?

Haha, oh wow. I never thought of grabbing onto ledges to prevent people from recovering. :(

I...learned that from watching videos like this :(

Doesn't matter anyways. I'd prefer the match to go on as long as possible, so I usually let people recover without trying to stop them.

NOT TAKING THE GAME SERIOUSLY AND PLAYING YOUR BEST BY BEING THE MOST EFFECTIVE KILLER IS STUPID AND YOU SHOULD BE SHOT.

lol I always do 5. :(

Hey cool, a fightan game where combos don't ****ing wear down my fingers? IT'S MORE LIKELY THAN I ONCE THOUGHT

eh, they're probably really weak. but I can see it being a major annoyance while fighting someone and they just hold down that button the entire time.

So that MetaKnight attack we saw him using on Pit in the trailer is the thing Sakurai's talking about.

Hee ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya!

This guy needs to calm down.

Okay so MK is pretty much slated to be the most overpowered/overused character of Brawl. Sweet!

Better him than Fox, Marth, or Shiek.

He'll probably suck *** in other respects. I doubt the developers are gonna be that stupid. Balancing a fighting game is a delicate process.

I bet he's really floaty and easily knocked off the stage. But yeah, it seems like holding the A is just for ****ty jabs, and tapping it is for the combos we know from Melee. At least for Fox.

Haha, oh wow. Dr. Wright as an assist trophy. Is this awesome? [Y/N]

idk :( surprisingly to say the least, considering how freaking obscure he is who knows what to expect.

Who freaking did NOT see that coming? lol
His attack is awesome though, Popping buildings out of nowhere!

I didn't. :(

But is it awesome? Very yes. I wonder what they'll announce at E3.

That really just opened my eyes to how many times I'm going to see a character and go "**** YEAH!" then realize it's an assist trophy.

BEST ****ING ASSIST TROPHY [I]EVER.



No, seriously, how can they top this. Will Wright!

I'm holding out for a Hideo Kojima trophy.

OR SHIGSY :D

Huh, been gone for a while. It's a pleasant surprise to see a sexy new Zelda. If there's no Sheik, I hope Zelda will be stronger, or will at least have better movement than in Melee.

They should really mention "HEY, THIS IS AN ASSIST TROPHY!" because I could've sworn he was an actual character. But I'm glad he's not, too obscure and too uninteresting.

No gradient background = Not a playable character.

Yellow emblem to the right of the article's title, too. Shows that he belongs in the items category.

Oh yeah, never really noticed that.

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;618800]Uh, no. That was Final Destination. They were all final destination.


Wow, you must really suck at Smash.

I love you

Vid on fountain, I lost to diesupafly in the past, **** spic, and ****ing ken. Zeta, I like to let people live as long as possible also, cause losing can be fun. Sometimes, especially with money on the line.

I'm loving these assist trophies and how to play screens so much.



So when is an actual update coming though?

whenever Nintendo has their press conference I guess. It's not playable, so expect another trailer.

so f[COLOR="Lime"]u[/COLOR]cking gay. But I guess they figure it'll be too much like melee and underwhelm people.

doubt that. people want it to be like melee. Hell, look at Halo 3. People are all "eh, been there done th-OH **** NEW HALO 3 SCREEEEEEEEEEEENS!!! OH *** SO AWESOME"

if it's something people want, it doesn't matter if it's a bit more of the same, because that's what they want. And people want Smash.

It's true though. It's like me and Ninja Gaiden. I bought the original, played the hell out of it, bought the downloadable content, played the hell out of it, bought Ninja Gaiden Black, played the hell out of it, and then borrowed Sigma and I'll play the hell out of it to. I'll the buy a PS3 specifically for it and play it all over again. Yet, they're all the exact same game. Once NG2 gets announced I don't expect it to be massively different and chances are I'll blow a load in my pants before "Ninja Ga-" is even said.

Yar, I'm the exact same way. :/

Every time I hop over to Bungie's site, I feel like I should buy a 360 first. Get back in the ring before you ruin my chances of getting back with the ol' SPF 50 crowd. Likewise, every time a (good) Japan Time rolls around, "OH **** HALO CAN WAIT BRAWL WILL TOTALLY OWN."

Yay for indecisiveness. I'll probably opt for a Wii, though. Cheaper, and that's good since I only have like $45 on me. BIRTHDAY'S SOON, THOUGH.

I want to get a 360 :( I'll try to con my grandfather into getting a PS3 just cause it has Blue-Ray and use it for the living room :cool2:

AH **** YEAH THE BUMPERS BACK IN ACTION *****ES!

Bumper seems a LOT bigger now

**** yes! The spinner was a terrible replacement, thank *** they brought the bumper back (instead?) Plus, it's even more useful now.

Good, good. The Melee one was ****.

it's gonna be all like "LOL I'M GONNA GET BACK ON STAGE WITH MY UP+B!" then I'll be all like "lol instead of edge guarding eat bumper *****!" and then you'll hit the bumper and die and I'll bol and win and you'll lose and be sad and probably mad cause i just bumpered your *** into oblivion.

december third, gonna be a great day for the wii

So I just noticed DK was shown for a split second during the little gameplay clip.

It was nice to see Zelda movement and the Eldin Bridge in action.

Definitely need to see more though. That was barely fifteen seconds in length it seems, and even then it went so quick it was hard to see what was going on. Though Fox's upB looked very nice.

OH HEY LOOKS LIKE JAPAN TIME IS EARLY TODAY.

It's the big ape guy.

and a short 15 second video clip. I have a feeling this is just a small part of something much bigger.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/donkeykong/donkeykong_070712b-l.jpg[/IMG]

bad freakin ***

THIS IS SAKURAI.

Fuzzy DK is fuzzy, so why not Fox? :mad:

This DK is VERY relevant to my interests. Something about him's just... awesome.

He looks more ****ed and less like a moron.

[CENTER]Here, here, here we go,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]So they're finally here performing for you,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]If you know the words you can join in too,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]Put your hands togeather if you want to clap,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]As we take you through this monkey rap,[/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]Huh!![/CENTER]
[CENTER]DK, Donkey Kong!![/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]He's the leader of the bunch, you know him well,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]He's finally back, to kick some tail,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]His coconut gun can fire in spurts,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]If he shoots ya, it's gunna hurt,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]He's bigger, faster and stronger too,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]He's the first member of the DK crew![/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]Huh!![/CENTER]
[CENTER]DK, Donkey Kong!![/CENTER]
[CENTER]DK, Donkey Kong is here!![/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]This Kong's got style, so listen up dudes,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]Shecan shrink in size to suit her mood,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]She's quick and nimble when she needs to be,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]She can flout through the air and climb up trees,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]If you choose her, you'll not choose wrong,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]With a skip and a hop, she's one cool Kong![/CENTER]
[CENTER] [CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]Huh!![/CENTER]
[CENTER]DK, Donkey Kong!![/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]He has no style, he has no grace,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]This Kong has a funny face,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]He can handstand when he needs to,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]And stretch his arms out just for you,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]Inflate himself just like a baloon,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]This crazy Kong just digs this tune![/CENTER]
[/CENTER]
[CENTER] [CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]Huh!![/CENTER]
[CENTER]DK, Donkey Kong!![/CENTER]
[CENTER]DK, Donkey Kong is here!![/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]He's back again and about time too,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]And this time he's in the mood,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]He can fly real high with his jetpack on,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]With his pistols out he's one tough Kong,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]He'll make you smile when he plays his tune,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]But Kremlings beware 'cause he's after you![/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER] [CENTER]Huh!![/CENTER]
[CENTER]DK, Donkey Kong!![/CENTER]
[CENTER]Huh!![/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]Finally he's here, he's here for you,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]It's the last member of the DK crew,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]This Kong's so strong, it isn't funny,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]He'll make a Kremling cry out for mummy,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]He can pick up a boulder with relative ease,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]Makes crushing rocks seem such a breeze,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]He may move slow, he can't jump high,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]But this Kong is one heck of a guy![/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]Huh!![/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]C'mon Cranky take it to the fridge![/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]Walnuts, peanuts, pineapple smells,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]Grapes, melons, oranges and coconut shells,[/CENTER]
[CENTER] [CENTER]Walnuts, peanuts, pineapple smells,[/CENTER]
[CENTER]Grapes, melons, oranges and coconut shells,[/CENTER]
[CENTER] [/CENTER]
[CENTER]Oh yeah!![/CENTER]
[/CENTER]
[/CENTER]
[/CENTER]

That's a lot of ****ing center tags, X. Why'd you center every line individually? :p

He has more time to waste than us. He can look forward to playing it sometime in 08 :D

[quote=Ant;622100]He has more time to waste than us. He can look forward to playing it sometime in 08 :D
f[COLOR=Silver]uc[/COLOR]k you ant...

just f[COLOR=Silver]uc[/COLOR]k you. :(

Noticed that it was a Moblin that broke the Eldin bridge with a barrel and not the big one on a hog. Unless hed already left and left a moblin to blow it up. Zelda did it instead though.

I'm sad by the lack of Snake in pretty much every screenshot and the new video. :( Let's see some of his special moves.

I'm happy to see that DK still doesn't actually grab anyone. Wait, no I'm not.

Well, the new map has interesting concepts like the changing time of day depending on the clock, a "live performance" based on the day and other things like that... but it appears to be just another floating stage over top a background. Tad disappointing.

Scenery looks really nice, but yeah. I was really excited about it when it first showed, but now that I look at it more, it's pretty plain. At least it's not a Battlefield knock-off, though it's not too different.

Hate Battlefield's layout most of all.

It looks like a pokemon stadium knockoff. As in two floating platforms rather than the three =/ They really gotta start integrating the stage into the background or making the stage it's own piece, like the Great Fox was.

Yeah, Eldin Bridge was awesome because it actually fit in with the background.

But there

It's hilarious at how many /v/irgins think there's going to be an Animal Crossing character just because the stage had an emblem.

It can't be Totakeke or the bartender now. :(

It's Bob. Or Rosie. Or some 3rd awesome villager I never decided on.

TOM NOOK!!

Did anyone see him on the stage? BECAUSE TOM NOOK IS COMING! Just imagine the announcer saying his name at the character select or whatever.

This game's winner is...

TOM NOOK!!

Look at stage pics harder.

I am suddenly flaccid.

/v/irgins want Resetti most of all.

He would be somewhat limited. :(

As none of them probably remember, stages had icons on the Stage Select screen back in Melee. That's probably all that is.

Someone even suggested male/female AC characters as an Ice Climbers style combo.

Wait, did any of them have non-character emblems though? Apart from Battlefield and FD.

I don't think so, since every stage was associated with a character, that I can recall. I'm just saying, there's emblems for the stages themselves, even if they happen to be the same as character emblems. Who's to say that it couldn't just be a stage emblem and nothing more?

I wonder if this stage is going to have the crazy-laidback music of AC. That would ****ing throw off my tempo.

I wonder how many songs he'll have.

Ugh, I'm gonna be a fag and do this every chance I get to see if it's different.

i wonder if they will have anymore single player missions, i liked in mele where you get a specific character and have to get to the end of the level, i cant rember all of them but i rember link you had to get the sword, mario you had to find leuigi, and metroid you just had to get to the top of the lvl

Apparently they're making single player a lot deeper this time around. No details yet, though.

They better. SP has always sucked. Actually, I wouldn't care if they took it out altogether.

Level 9 computers suck balls. :(

Then you'd be doing thousands of VS matches or hundreds of hours before you unlocked everything. No thanks. I'd rather stick with the mediocre SP than abandon it.

Actually, I'm pretty sure every character should be unlocked either way. Either meet an objective in SP or play so many matches/hours in MP.

bwahahahaha! Wario Farted! still funny! as for smash religion let us join as one under Our Red Hatted Plumber Of The Smash

The music today was pretty unimpressive. Maybe because I couldn't distinguish the Melee original.

Exactly what I was thinking. It just wasn't as good as the rest, though I could hear the melee original in it.

Screw you guys. That music was sex. :(

It was alright.

It was awesome!

im in ur pokeball
ready to fire hyper beam

Deoxys looks pretty **** cool. I'd almost even like to play him as a character.

Looks like something ripped from S-Cry-d.

Which Deoxys form is that?

i dno prob atack

Yeah, it's attack form.

Yep, that's the one that murders everybody else in the game as long as it doesn't get hit.

Still waiting for Bidoof.

Knew it.

Argh! Do not want Samus' final smash changing her into ZSS! >_<

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I want to punch this guy in the face. ****ing tourneyfag.

I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE ITEMS :D

Id make it so you cant turn items off in game just to **** off more tourneyfags.
Though im quite sure now that zero suit Samus's final smash will end up putting her suit back on. Else that would be bad. VERY BAD. Without some other way to turn back anywho.

Or, you know, you could get your suit back when you died. That seems like the logical solution. They shoulda just made ZSS an alternate costume or something like Shiek.

Go to Smash Boards for some instant lolz. They're BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWing so hard!

Well that's really disappointing, and not because of the items deal for tournaments. Just the fact that you require an item to use ZSS is kinda lame. I would have much rathered her be a legitimate character.

I thought everyone knew this months ago. :(

Anyway, tourneyfag up above made me lol

"Smash Lord"

"Location: Noob: go die"

"I don't need/have a girlfriend because I sex my smash disc"

That would seriously chafe your penis unless it was exceptionally small. :(

I wouldn't be worried.

Seriously where does it say that Zero Suit Samus can only be used via smash ball? Nintendo would have to be stupid to make a character unaccessible without items. I dunno but i think i read something that said zero suit Samus would be her own character. Dunno though.

it doesn't say that's the only way, but it sure as hell doesn't say otherwise. While disappointing, doesn't really matter. I like items and don't play without them.

What?

seaking evolution, duh

This new entry confuses me. It is also in black rather than white. Huh.

That was awesome. And confusing.

I think it might be a story line. That would be awesome. I follows the same basis to the opening of melee.

g[COLOR="Lime"]od da[/COLOR]mnit just come out with a new trailer already. :(

uh

interesting

What is that black thing? I know I've seen it before as an enemy or something.

Kinda looks like one of the aliens from Majora's Mask to me.

IT'S OFFICIAL! THE MAIN STORY IS YOU PROTECTING CREMIA AND ROMANI'S COWS!

That looks nothing like a MM alien. :(

I swear I've seen it before. This is going to annoy me all day. :(

Anyway, I can't really interpret the entry at all. It doesn't even say anything about the Halberd flying in.

Ant: Trailer = TGS. Nintendo is actually going to be there for once, so that seems to be obvious.

two more months? ugh.

idk

I thought it was "obvious" that there'd be some kind of info at E3 at all. Not only was there no trailer, the only news we got was from the same site that just gives daily updates. :cookie:

they sure know how to promote their games!

Nintendo sponsor every comedy programme on one of the big TV channels in the UK. Every time I try to watch Seinfeld or some **** I keep getting 'SUPAH MARIO STRIKAHS ONLY ON WEE ALSO 1337 BEET AGENTS R U HOT ENUFF 4 DEM GROOVES EXCLUSIVE TO NINTENDO DS'

huh.

seems pretty rare to see ads for nintendo games out here.

There getting quite all over the place here. We get adverts between programs too got ourselves a footballer in the strikers one.

That purple thing almost looks like an eggplant. Also looks like it could be something from Paper Mario 1000 year door

Storyline? In my Smash Bros? Interesting...

idk, I'm just guessing that's like the starting video. The storylin in every Smash has been action figures and/or trophies fight each other. I doubt we'll get some deep story, not that Smash needs one anyway.

Weren't they expanding the storyline? Though I have to agree. It's obviously important because WHITE TEXT ON BLACK and it has quite a few things happening at once. So it makes sense.

Sakurai said before that the single-player experience is going to expand a great deal over Melee.

Icicle Mountain v2.0?

Gosh, I was like 'wow, this stage has an epic number of platforms...'

Then I realized it was a scroller. :(

At least the background changes... but DO NOT WANT

hated that **** in Melee. never played it.

I wanna fight 4 master hands, a team of 30 watches all at the same time, and for extra measure, throw in 2 giga bowsers. That should make the pre-boss fight a little bit interesting. Then throw a boss I haven't seen

That looked cool. Until I learned it was Icicle Mountain. :(

It's like

Icicle Mountain....melted...yeah..

..:(

Maybe it's slower, like Rainbow Cruise or even slower than that? One can hope? lol.

Doubtful. =/ Though Icicle Mountain got slow in certain section and sped up. It's most likely be that and just replace Icicle Mountain all thogether.

so yoshi's up and b actually makes him go up this time.

and I still want to know exactly what the hell level that castle level is from.

I'm willing to bet it's Fire Emblem. Castle seems most appropriate for a FE location.

How does tossing an egg make you jump farther? Or is it like Mario's forward B or something?

good question. deserves a good answer!

Unless you can throw close enough to you that the explosion carries you forward. Kinda like Samus' bombs.

It'd obviously be the main character. Too bad the game was kinda sucky.

Ah, Yoshi looks like such a flamer in his introduction photo. Gotta love 'im. :D But yes, I definitely approve of his SSBB look; both Bowser and Yoshi have undergone positive transformations from their Melee days, in my opinion.

Now all they have to do is announce King Dedede as a playable character, and I'll be forever satisfied.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/yoshi/yoshi_070724d-l.jpg[/IMG]

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Now this is a stage. It breaks. That should be fun.

Will the main platform be the only one that breaks? It would be badass fighting on a single platform.

Id guess that the main platform is the only on that doesn't break.

All of them break from what I can see in the pictures and previous trailer. Like the Yoshi stage, I believe you just fight on the cloud. Nothing special.

still, if they all break you have to be careful of when the cloud disappears as well. rite?

That would make sense... otherwise you're just fighting on a different looking platform. But who knows.

IT would be cool to have a stage like the sumo game in Fusion Frenzy where it gets smaller and smaller till only one can stand

A new technique. And it's pretty cool. Neat.

Can't wait to bounce off the smaller characters using some behemoth like Bowser.

OH SHI! This sounds pretty f[COLOR="Lime"]u[/COLOR]cking awesome. Going to be a b[COLOR="Lime"]i[/COLOR]tch getting back on stage.

Everyone's gonna be real cocky doing meteor smashes now. My brother doesn't usually have the balls to try. :(

Yeah, it's certainly a less risky way of doing a meteor smash. It's good though, especially for those characters that don't have one.

So, I'm wonderful at Smash and I've owned it ever since it came out, but uh, I never took the time to actually find out what a meteor smash is. lol explanation? :cookie:

Smashing someone while they're trying to get back on.

they go down like a meteor

When you spike those mother****ers down, usually down+A aerial, side+A for some. I wonder what this means for, uh... real meteor smashes. Unless my understanding of them is incorrect.

edit: how'd i get ninja'd, there's no way this page was idle for two minutes. I'M CALLIN' SHENANIGANS

Well, I can't imagine this being a full-on meteor smash. I'd think it would not only stop the person from jumping up, but also push them down at a quicker rate, but not as fast as an actual smash. It really wouldn't make much sense if you ask me. What would cause the other player to go flying off the screen, you know?

Yeah, I'm thinking maybe it won't spike 'em, but just kill their jump.

Looks like Mr.Sakurai finally got to put in another one of his beloved Kirby Characters. He seems like an alright assist. And pretty fitting too, considering his role in superstar.

Not one of my favorite partners from Superstar, but still pretty ****ing awesome.

He

He looks stupider than I remember...

Eh, he pretty much looks the same as in Superstar. They just made his eyes more kawaii. ^__________^

Needs more Biospark. :mad:

Needs more Gim. :mad:

Biospark and Gim where the best d[COLOR="White"]a[/COLOR]mn guys in that game ;_;. Biospark even more so cuz you can do a full charge when blocking.

Still, Im happy just for meta night being in (in the hailbird no doubt.) Anything is welcome.

...still needs more Dedede.

But hey, if they're willing to put a rather obscure character (at least compared to Meta Knight and such) like Knuckle Joe in as an assist trophy, then that'll only bolster my confidence regarding Dedede being on the active roster. I suppose I shouldn't get my hopes up too high, though.

I hope not, just to watch the tourneyfags kill themselves. :cool:

I don't want Sheik either. Sheik's cool and all, but that's a really lame thing to do considering she's only been in one game. If another Zelda character is neccessary, put in some one who's a little bit more deserving.

Tingle's been in like four or five games, hasn't he?

Including Smash. And his very own game!

How was Rose-Colored Rupee Land, anyways?

Actually, pretty good. It was weird having to pay for everything, but the adventure was surprisingly fun.

There better be a Tingle Assist Trophy at the very least, or heads will roll.

He's been in seven games, including Smash - Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Minish Cap, Four Swords, Rosy Rupeeland, and Balloon Fight.

I always wondered why he was in Wind Waker. It takes place a hundred/hundreds of years after OoT and MM. How the hell is he still alive? And how did he survive the flood? He's a living paradox. :mad:

blah blah blah no timeline blah blah just nintendo getting some lols blah blah

Pretty sure Shiggy said that.

Wait, it was probably Aonuma.

Either way, they confirmed it. :(

In Hyrule, when a man and his sister fall in love, Tingle is the outcome. Always.


Always.

If only such a thing didn't happen in the real world. My sister would so be pregnant right now.

I can't even begin to count the things wrong with that.

Ages.

T-t-take it easy, will ya!

anywho, an interactive final smash? pretty awwight

Tight! I wonder if we'll actually be able to make coherent tunes.

Most awesome the text has been in a while.

Also, looking forward to the interactive part. Like how it does more damage as you keep the rhythm. That way you can't just wail on it and expect good results. :cool:

Go Pitfall!
Gotta wonder if you fall through the bottom floor...do you instantly die?
Like you'll fall off stage or just get stuck and get Owned?

Can't fall through large platforms. Can only fall through platforms you can drop through.

seems okay.

The evidence of a character from Animal Crossing becomes more and more apparent. Anyway, I think it looks like fun. I really love mine traps, as well as chucking the screwball into people. This is kind of like both. :)

I really doubt there will be a full fledged animal crossing character.

Who knows, but they certainly are putting quite a bit of AC into it already. The leaf icon does make me curious. Is it really so unlikely, though? Small, like Pichu or Ness. He/she could have a shovel, axe, bug net, and fishing rod as B moves, it'd work perfectly. Down B would be some shovel move, B would be the net, Side B axe, and I'm sure the rod could be used in some way to recover. I think it's quite plausible.

no shut up you're an idiot

stfu fag and gtfo

it goes invisible after you throw it? That's kinda weird...

I feel sorry for the suckers who end up getting caught in their own traps. Wait... that will be me.

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire;633301]it goes invisible after you throw it? That's kinda weird...
That's what happened in Animal Crossing. I think there was a tiny fracture mark. Maybe.

Getting thoroughly fooled by a trap like this... It

This is true, but you'll notice every stage's icon in SSB was, indeed, a character's stage. :cookie: Thus, it's easy to simply use said character's icon, unless it's a SSB stage, in which the SSB icon is used.

Speaking of that SSB icon, anyone know what it's even supposed to be? :cool: Was it just like, "Bob, we need an icon for SSB. Oh hey, that doodle looks pretty good lol k"

That's exactly it, Peach.

:-*

Yeah! LET'S GANG UP ON ALASTOR! SMASH STAGES, SMASH ICON, YOU DUMB ****ER. EAT **** AND DIE.

so... pitfalls though. that's pretty cool. [spoiler]<3 dan[/spoiler]

whoops

ilu dan

Yeah, I'm pretty swell.

But apparently I can't read.

WHERE THE **** IS MY JAPAN TIME?!

Sakurai doesn't update until after Alastor goes to bed. We've figured that out after the past 2 Japan Times.

/R/ JAPAN TIEM

I suppose it's more intense in the morning anyway.

Jerk. :(

0.o No update :( :mad: This better mean something good at a later date.

Sakurai? SAKURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI!

~dun dunnn da nunnunnun... DUN DUN DUN!~

New Character FTW? xD

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/ike/ike_070801e.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/images/icon/world_b_12.gif[/IMG]Ike

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/ike/ike.jpg[/IMG]

From Fire Emblem, Ike appears! The fact that he can wield a two-handed sword with a single hand is a testament to his magnificent strength.

His brings his special move "Aether" with him as he crashes the Brawl party. Try for a single-stroke finishing blow with his mighty blade!
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YES A FIRE EMBLEM CHARACTER I KNOW OF

YES

OH SHI- NEW CHARCTER REVEALED. Biggest news thus far on the site. Ah well, hopefully he'll do the job and fill in Marths spot well.

I knew we'd get Ike. He looks awesome there. Wonder if well get another Fire Emblem guy. If so i hope its not another swordsman. Beast-man would be best.

[quote=Ant;633948]OH SHI- NEW CHARCTER REVEALED. Biggest news thus far on the site. Ah well, hopefully he'll do the job and fill in Marths spot well.

what about knuckle joe, those intense new of him put me ne-

**** this guys going to be a better ganondorf, since, he has a sword

I came

Sweet.

Never played Fire Emblem, though. :( Someone care to fill me in on who Ike is? Or is he just like, Marth, with a new name for English versions?

This is the first true new character they've revealed, though. I'm excited. With the current roster, and the amount of secret characters SSBM had, this looks like a pretty sweet lineup.

OH SHI-! This means Marth is ****ing out of here. That explains what woke me up this morning; the wails of thousands of tourneyfags.

[quote]Someone care to fill me in on who Ike is? Or is he just like, Marth, with a new name for English versions?

Ike is the main protagonist in Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance. Only main character ever to not be of royal blood. Blah blah blah.

Ike > Marth, at least in looks alone. Marth always looked like a pansy.

Hopefully this means Roy is gone too.

An advertisement that I won't miss at all.

I had to do a double take. I honestly thought it was Marth for a moment.

Yeah, if Marth and Roy are gone, I'll be happy. The best thing about Ike is that his moveset will probably be different from Marth/Roy's, so he's not just another copied character. Although, on that note, it seems slightly more likely that they would put either Marth or Roy in.

Do not want nor need.

Well, if they're going on the scale of characters equal to that of say Marvel vs Capcom 2 then I wouldn't mind.

Yeah... I guess if it's not like "Roy or someone else" then it's not a big deal.

Because if Ike has a completely different moveset, they'd be kind of wasting Marth and Roy's attacks by not returning them. Not saying it will happen, but Ike's not really replacing them because he's not a copy.

Most fighting game series drop characters completely, it's not that big a deal. Street Fighter III dropped everyone apart from Ryu and Ken when it was first released. DoA, Tekken, Fatal Fury and Soul Calibur have had similar conventions. Keeping everyone would make things stale.

Aether looks just like Marth's Shield Breaker to me.

Doesn't look like he has too much reach. Though in the game he used a large sweeping slashes. I think Ike has the most potential so far for my new character. Hope he gets his own moves though.

another level that involves falling? :/

seems cool, but...not at the same time. NOT TOURNEY FRIENDLY

NOT TOURNAMENT FRIENDLY

Has there been a totally stationary stage yet?

uh

Yoshi's Island? Battlefield? Etc?


Anyway, I think it looks better than the other levels. And there's still a lot of stages to be announced, such as that MGS one.

Speaking of MGS, it definitely seems like they're trying to keep Snake a pretty big secret. >_> There hasn't been mention of anything MGS, and except for "NEW CHARACTERS LOL" pages, he's not in any screenshots. Weird?

they decided to take him out of the game

Does Japan still like Snake and Metal Gear? If so, waiting for TGS.

Snake? SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE~

FISSION MAILED

They replaced him with Simon Belmont.

[quote=Zeta;634862]They replaced him with Simon Belmont.

What I wouldn't give to see a Belmont in SSBB. :(

Belmont or Alucard.

Richter Belmont for SSBB.

Hmm, I wonder how big the default roster will be. Maybe Snake is a hidden character?

Not very hidden if they've already announced him.

True, but after being announced so early, you'd think he'd be added to the roster on the website by now, right?

Oh well, it's a while 'til the game comes out, so I'm sure they'll still be adding an asston of characters on the default roster. Maybe they just don't want to give out details about Snake a long time before the game is out. After all, Snake has been heavily anticipated.

Belmot and Snake? It's like DreamMix TV all over again.

Actually, the sickest character you could have in it, period, would be Gray Fox/Cyborg Ninja. Sorry. :(

I wonder if there will be any other MG characters? Almost every character has more from their series, except for like, Captain Falcon. And I wonder when he's going to show up.

Wouldn't count on it, especially since Samurai Goroh was an assist trophy.

And again, Sakurai confirmed only "one or two" more third party characters will be in a long time ago.

most likely as an assist trophy. STOP ASKING DUMB QUESTIONS.

Oh gees, Gray Fox as an assist trophy would be awesome. So would Otacon too, actually.

I wish MGS3 was for Gamecube so it could be Big Boss instead. :(

I want Mega Man and Sonic. >:|

You guys forgot Raiden.

Provided MegaMan does show up, that'd enable switching from Classic, Legends, and X. And give Samus some different suits (Light Suit plz).

Don't see it happening, because I don't think they could do it for every character. Although I'd rather have it for only some than not at all.

FINALLY, a new new character. Sort of.

I'm assuming he's an amalgam of Roy/Marth... So, actually, kinda not entirely new.

Ah, good enough.

Holy ****ing **** I came buckets. YOU ARE THE SECOND BEST JAPAN TIME EVER, AFTER IKE!

WHO IS IKE?

YOU ARE THE BEST JAPAN TIME EVER.

Seriously, now it looks like Single Player won't suck anymore. This is epic. AND CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, HOLY ****.

Seriously, DK's Final Smash looks fun, Pitfall looks okay, woohoo Ike, woohoo Castle Siege, woohoo single player doesn't suck anymore. This was a good week.

Music next week plz.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01LMZMaDgk

Video, since the site's slower than a friggin' snail.

Edit 2: http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200708/N07.0802.1741.54921.htm

Eiji Aonuma confirms Shiek and Ganondorf for Brawl. Last paragraph.

Adventure mode! **** yes, best update in ages.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/images/modea02/modea02_070803k-l.jpg[/IMG]

AWESOME.

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/images/modea02/modea02_070803h-l.jpg[/IMG]

Sneak peek at Peach, too!

and lots of sneak peaks of areas that will be most likely be adventure mode only areas. kind of like the mushroom kingdom or the underground dungeon in melee.

these were probably the best screenshots so far as well. WANT TO SEE IN VIDEO FORM THOUGH.

EDIT: OH SHI, just now noticed that there was a playable video there for a cut scene. HALBERD **** YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH[/zeta]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/real-news/smash-bros-to-feature-singleplayer-side+scrolling-experience-285600.php
new video, dosent explain mutch

i soo called there would be a single player side scroller, ftw. i hope they still have an option to have the original single player with the big hand

Question! Those shadowy grunts that appeared in the newest video... aren't they the generic grunts from Kingdom Hearts? o_o;

First thing that came to mind for me were robot versions of Eggplant Men.

Read the second link I posted. It's an interview with Eiji Aonuma.

Best update I've seen in a while!

Zelda in action is hot. Farore's Wind looks a lot better and faster. Sneak peak at Peach too, which is always nice. Sheik and Ganondorf sound cool. Can't say I really think Sheik should be in there, but a nice addition still.

The adventure mode seems great. Do you think they'll completely personalize the stages for each character, or will most/all of them stay the same regardless?

Edit: I just noticed the voiceover for Farore's Wind sounded pretty much the same as the SSBM version. I was hoping they'd make new ones for all of the characters. :(

Well, the two screenshots with fox I couldn't really recognize from what game that could be from. And the one with Metaknight on the platform in the desert, no idea. and pit with the wheel in the background and bulletbills? They all seem generic areas...for now.

Maybe that goat thing is a DK level? o_O That one with Pit has him flying in Skyland, but those enemies look Kirby-esque.

Anyway, looks awesome, I'm excited. I wonder if you'll be able to play it as every character, or if it's a giant thing, and certain parts are other characters? I also wonder how they're going about this whole "Personalizing the characters" deal. It says it has cutscenes. Will there be voice acting? Text? From what they're telling us, it seems it'd be hard to achieve the affect they're hoping for if they use cutscenes with no dialogue, text or voice.

Sakurai already said they're not going into massive depth with the plot itself. It's more of an awesome excuse for huge single player madness.

Im guessing that each character goes through a bunch of levels like adventure mode in SSBM and depening on the character depends the levels. For example peach mario zelda and kirby all do the coliseum level but then all split up for their next levels. Probably all meeting up at the end for some final enemy.

Smoke ball, seems like a pretty obvious addition.

meh. I want more epic Japantiem.

Should have made it a Snake item. A smoke grenade. :cool:

Slight variations of Kirby's up B and Roy's B. Awesome.

Ike's looking more and more appealing.

Surprising how he would be considered a heavier character though, since he won't flinch while doing the move. Heh, spam it and you'll never get knocked off, unless there is a horrible recoil after the move is done...but there's probably a way around that too.

Looks like heavies are gonna get back in the game now. :cool:

A heavy aye. You wouldn't expect Ike to be slow either. Sort of defeats the object of being heavy. Gotta be some kind of compromise. Then again he doesn't have a very good recovery move.

[quote=crelda;638277]A heavy aye. You wouldn't expect Ike to be slow either. Sort of defeats the object of being heavy. Gotta be some kind of compromise. Then again he doesn't have a very good recovery move.

probably low priority/high damage moves, or laggy attacks with high damage, which reminds me of bowser and ganondorf. Or they can always do what they did to mewtwo, and make them low priority/mid damaging/laggy attack moves.

From ike's description, I would think he'd be a heavy character since they gave him a sword the size of a human which he wields with one hand, so he can't be all that fast, but I would think they're going to make him some sort of monster, maybe mid speed like roy, but better priority with a laggier moveset that has large priority, and they can make him even more dangerous if they make the lag after the move is executed rather than before the move is executed. I'd rather be punished AFTER the move is instead of during the process of the move coming out. Thats just frustrating and irritating.

Also, if I'm reading that correctly, the way he comes in would usually make him vulnerable to being attacked, but what I'm reading is that he won't flinch when he hits if that sword of his isn't at hand yet. It sounds like yoshi's second jump against weak attacks. So if he can't be edgeguarded by attacking, makes me wonder what kind of monster Ike will be. Is it december yet ;_;

Shame they're still mixing and matching attacks with completely different characters.

**** yeah kid icurus theme kicks ***. though the flow seems weird at the end, it'll be smoother in game I'm sure.

lol, I love the ending.

DADADA-DADADADA-DADADADADA-DA

mrrow kitty :3

You might imagine it to be a bit forced, but I think it sounds quite good.

SAKURAI-SAN~ ;_;

Sakurai, truly this generation's Hemingway.

huh, forgot that song went to kid icarus.

Not as good as some of the other music. Probably because most of the other stuff has a nostalgia factor for me, and Kid Icarus doesn't. Never bothered playing it.

Not that it was bad. Just wasn't the best. Ending was pretty rockin', though.

Pits final smash seems kinda sucky.

It was cool... right up until the time you learned what the actual attack was.

I mean, the ***dess was kinda hawt

I'd **** Palutena.

So basically Pit's final smash is like the Unown storm in Melee? Pants. It looks to epic. :(

I hope someones final smash makes the stage quickly do a 180 degree from the focus point, and then flips back. At that point everyones under the stage screaming to their doom.

Yea, that ***dess was hawt

ah, good ol franklin badge from earthbound. interesting item as well.

Franklin Badge **** yeah. This looks fun. It'll be irritating to fight against but fun as hell to use against others.

OH KIRBY

hell yea, a way around getting hit by ****ing lasers :mad:

[IMG]http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/images/item08/item08_070810f-l.jpg[/IMG]

:o

I wonder what tomorrows update will be.

Hopfully not another item/pokemon/assist trophy

MOUNTAIN RANGES WERE SHAT

wow. DID NOT SEE THAT COMING! seriously, tons of possibilities to be had with those three.