Move tutor much?




Posted by Pit

Honestly, just leveled my **** Umbreon to level 50 and it didn't learn mean look. Is thar a tm for it, or what? I don't want a 50+ umbreon, I want a nice set level 50 team.




Posted by Shade

You gotta heart scale that ****




Posted by Pit

heart scale doesn't tell me the ****ing town.

Also, upon looking at umbreons stats, he's complete garbage. I have to redo him - for a level 50 umbreon, his stats are crap.

Anyways, I need a nature that will reduce attack and give him physical defense. Don't know which one it is.

Also, I need a list of pokemon that when I EV it, will + to Def, + to HP, and + Sp Def, and maybe + Speed after I waste the EV's on those.

The move set I have planned is

Toxic, Mean Look, Double Team, Rest item Leftovers

also will train with pokerus and macho brace

So yeah




Posted by Zeta

Move Tutor is in Pastoria, and you'd probably want to try a Bold nature.

Dunno which Pokemon give which EVs yet.




Posted by Shade

Alright, so the move tutor is in Pastoria city, I believe. For the nature, you're going to want to try and get Bold.

Here's the HP EV's:

Arceus 3 Points --
Azumarill 3 Points --
Azurill 1 Point --
Barboach 1 Point --
Bidoof 1 Point --
Blissey 2 Points --
Castform 1 Point --
Caterpie 1 Point --
Celebi 3 Points --
Chansey 2 Points --
Chinchou 1 Point --
Clafable 3 Points --
Clefairy 2 Points --
Delcatty 1 Point 1 Point (Speed)
Ditto 1 Point --
Drifblim 2 Points --
Drifloon 1 Point --
Dunsparce 1 Point --
Entei 1 Point 2 Points (Attack)
Exploud 3 Points --
Gastrodon 2 Points --
Giratina 3 Points --
Glalie 2 Points --
Grimer 1 Point --
Gulpin 1 Point --
Happiny 1 Point --
Hariyama 2 Points --
Hoothoot 1 Point --
Igglybuff 1 Point --
Jigglypuff 2 Points --
Jirachi 3 Points --
Kangaskhan 2 Points --
Lanturn 2 Points --
Lapras 2 Points --
Lickilicky 3 Points --
Lickitung 2 Points --
Loudred 2 Points --
Makuhita 1 Point --
Manaphy 3 Points --
Marill 2 Points --
Mew 3 Points --
Muk 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Munchlax 1 Point --
Nidoran (F) 1 Point --
Nidorina 2 Points --
Nidoqueen 3 Points --
Noctowl 2 Points --
Phanpy 1 Point --
Phione 1 Point --
Piloswine 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Quagsire 2 Points --
Relicanth 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Sealeo 2 Points --
Shaymin 3 Points --
Shedinja 2 Points --
Shellos 1 Point --
Shroomish 1 Point --
Skuntank 2 Points --
Slaking 3 Points --
Slakoth 1 Point --
Slowpoke 1 Point --
Snorlax 2 Points --
Snorunt 1 Point --
Spheal 1 Point --
Swalot 2 Points --
Tropius 2 Points --
Vaporeon 2 Points --
Wailmer 1 Point --
Wailord 2 Points --
Walrein 3 Points --
Whiscash 2 Points --
Whismur 1 Point --
Wigglytuff 3 Points --
Wooper 1 Point --
Wurmple 1 Point --
Wynaut 1 Point --




Posted by Shade

Defense:

Aggron 3 Points --
Aron 1 Point --
Bastiodon 2 Points --
Bayleef 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Beldum 1 Point --
Bonsly 1 Point --
Bronzong 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Bronzor 1 Point --
Cascoon 2 Points --
Clamperl 1 Point --
Cloyster 2 Points --
Corsola 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Croconaw 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Cubone 1 Point --
Donphan 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Drapion 2 Points --
Dusclops 1 Point 2 Points (Sp. Defense)
Dusknoir 1 Point 2 Points (Sp. Defense)
Duskull 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Exeggcute 1 Point --
Feraligatr 1 Point 2 Points (Attack)
Forretress 2 Points --
Geodude 1 Point --
Gligar 1 Point --
Gliscor 2 Points --
Golem 3 Points --
Graveler 2 Points --
Grotel 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Hippopotas 1 Point --
Hippowdon 2 Points --
Huntail 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Kabuto 1 Point --
Kabutops 2 Points --
Kakuna 2 Points --
Koffing 1 Point --
Kricketot 1 Point --
Lairon 2 Points --
Leafeon 2 Points --
Magcargo 2 Points --
Marowak 2 Points --
Mawile 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Meganium 1 Point 2 Points (Sp. Defense)
Metagross 3 Points --
Metang 2 Points --
Metapod 2 Points --
Miltank 2 Points --
Nincada 1 Point --
Nosepass 1 Point --
Omanyte 1 Point --
Omastar 2 Points --
Onix 1 Point --
Parasect 1 Point 2 Points (Attack)
Pelipper 2 Points --
Pineco 1 Point --
Poliwrath 3 Points --
Probopass 1 Point 2 Points (Sp. Defense)
Regirock 3 Points --
Registeel 2 Points 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Relicanth 1 Point 1 Point (HP)
Rhyhorn 1 Point --
Sableye 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Sandshrew 1 Point --
Sandslash 2 Points --
Seadra 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Seedot 1 Point --
Shelgon 2 Points --
Shellder 1 Point --
Shieldon 1 Point --
Shuckle 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Silcoon 2 Points --
Skarmory 2 Points --
Skorupi 1 Point --
Slowbro 2 Points --
Spiritomb 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Squirtle 1 Point --
Steelix 2 Points --
Sudowoodo 2 Points --
Suicune 1 Point 2 Points (Sp. Defense)
Tangela 1 Point --
Tangrowth 2 Points --
Torkoal 2 Points --
Torterra 1 Point 2 Points (Defense)
Uxie 2 Points 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Vespiquen 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Wartortle 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Weezing 2 Points --




Posted by Shade

Sp. Def.

Altaria 2 Points --
Articuno 3 Points --
Baltoy 1 Point --
Bayleef 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Beedrill 1 Point 2 Points (Attack)
Bellossom 3 Points --
Blastoise 3 Points --
Bronzong 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Burmy 1 Point --
Butterfree 1 Point 2 Points (Sp. Attack)
Chikorita 1 Point --
Chimecho 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Claydol 1 Point --
Cleffa 1 Point --
Corsola 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Cradily 2 Points --
Cresselia 3 Points --
Dewgong 2 Points --
Drowzee 1 Point --
Dusclops 2 Points 1 Point (Defense)
Dusknoir 2 Points 1 Point (Defense)
Duskull 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Dustox 3 Points --
Eevee 1 Point --
Grumpig 2 Points --
Hitmonchan 2 Points --
Hitmontop 2 Points --
Ho-oh 3 Points --
Hoppip 1 Point --
Hypno 2 Points --
Ivysaur 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Kecleon 1 Point --
Kingdra 1 Point 1 Point (Attack & Sp. Attack)
Latias 3 Points --
Ledyba 1 Point --
Ledian 2 Points --
Lileep 1 Point --
Lombre 1 Point --
Lotad 1 Point --
Ludicolo 3 Points --
Lugia 3 Points --
Mantine 2 Points --
Mantyke 1 Point --
Masquerain 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Meganium 2 Points 1 Point (Defense)
Mesprit 1 Point 1 Point (Attack & Sp. Attack)
Milotic 2 Points --
Mime Jr. 1 Point --
Misdreavus 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Mismagius 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Mr. Mime 2 Points --
Ninetales 1 Point 1 Point (Speed)
Politoed 3 Points --
Probopass 2 Points 1 Point (Defense)
Regice 3 Points --
Registeel 1 Point 2 Points (Defense)
Seel 1 Point --
Shuckle 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Slowking 3 Points --
Spiritomb 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Spoink 1 Point --
Suicune 2 Points 1 Point (Defense)
Swablu 1 Point --
Tentacool 1 Point --
Tentacruel 2 Points --
Togekiss 1 Point 2 Points (Sp. Attack)
Togepi 1 Point --
Togetic 2 Points --
Umbreon 2 Points --
Uxie 1 Point 2 Points (Defense)
Venonat 1 Point --
Venusaur 1 Point 2 Points (Sp. Attack)
Vespiquen 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Wartortle 1 Point 1 Point (Defense)
Wormadam 2 Points --




Posted by Shade

Speed:

Aerodactyl 2 Points --
Aipom 1 Point --
Ambipom 2 Points --
Buizel 1 Point --
Buneary 1 Point --
Charmander 1 Point --
Charmeleon 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Chimchar 1 Point --
Combee 1 Point --
Crobat 3 Points --
Cyndaquil 1 Point --
Darkrai 1 Point 2 Points (Sp. Attack)
Delcatty 1 Point 1 Point (HP)
Delibird 1 Point --
Deoxys 1 Point 1 Point (Attack & Sp. Attack)
Diglett 1 Point --
Dugtrio 2 Points --
Electabuzz 2 Points --
Electrike 1 Point --
Electrode 2 Points --
Elekid 1 Point --
Fearow 2 Points --
Feebas 1 Point --
Finneon 1 Point --
Floatzel 2 Points --
Flygon 2 Points 1 Point (Attack)
Froslass 2 Points --
Furret 2 Points --
Glameow 1 Point --
Golbat 2 Points --
Grovyle 2 Points --
Illumise 1 Point --
Infernape 1 Point 1 Point (Attack & Sp. Attack)
Jolteon 2 Points --
Jumpluff 3 Points --
Linoone 2 Points --
Lopunny 2 Points --
Lumineon 2 Points --
Luvdisc 1 Point --
Magby 1 Point --
Magikarp 1 Point --
Manectric 2 Points --
Medicham 2 Points --
Meditite 1 Point --
Meowth 1 Point --
Minun 1 Point --
Monferno 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Murkrow 1 Point --
Ninetales 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Defense)
Ninjask 2 Points --
Pachirisu 1 Point --
Persian 2 Points --
Pichu 1 Point --
Pidgeot 3 Points --
Pidgeotto 2 Points --
Pidgey 1 Point --
Pikachu 2 Points --
Plusle 1 Point --
Poliwag 1 Point --
Poliwhirl 2 Points --
Ponyta 1 Point --
Purugly 2 Points --
Quilava 1 Point --
Raichu 3 Points --
Raikou 2 Points 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Rapidash 2 Points --
Raticate 2 Points --
Rattata 1 Point --
Rotom 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Sceptile 3 Points --
Skiploom 2 Points --
Skitty 1 Point --
Smeargle 1 Point --
Sneasel 1 Point --
Spearow 1 Point --
Staravia 2 Points --
Starly 1 Point --
Starmie 2 Points --
Staryu 1 Point --
Stunky 1 Point --
Surskit 1 Point --
Swellow 2 Points --
Taillow 1 Point --
Tauros 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Treecko 1 Point --
Venomoth 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Vibrava 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Vigoroth 2 Points --
Volbeat 1 Point --
Voltorb 1 Point --
Vulpix 1 Point --
Weavile 1 Point 1 Point (Attack)
Weedle 1 Point --
Wingull 1 Point --
Xatu 1 Point 1 Point (Sp. Attack)
Yanma 2 Points --
Zigzagoon 1 Point --
Zubat 1 Point --

There you go.




Posted by Pit

yeah also what kind of poffins should i give it, YEAH IM GOING ALL OUT




Posted by Shade

I have no idea how to use poffins. Zeta'll probably know.




Posted by Zeta

Eh.. I'm not too good with Poffins or any of that Contest stuff yet (Except dancing)... Might want to try whichever type of food it likes. =/




Posted by Pit

what the ****:

just gave my eevee 10 HP ups at level 1, it says base HP increased, yet it's still at 12. huh?




Posted by Zeta

you don't get the ev bonus until lv100

oh wai- i forgot you're only bringing your Umbreon to lv50. =/




Posted by Pit

wait, what. are you ****ing serious?
hen what's th ****ing point of EV training if you can't traget a level?




Posted by Zeta

why get it to only lv50 anyways? If it's for the lv50 Battle Tower any Pokemon above Lv50 gets reduced to it while you're in there.




Posted by Shade

Or level 50 Wi-Fi battles.




Posted by cool gamer dad


Quoting Zeta: you don't get the ev bonus until lv100

oh wai- i forgot you're only bringing your Umbreon to lv50. =/

pretty sure you get it next time it levels up



Posted by Zeta

Eh, I still haven't got this whole EV thing down. I know on one level up I got +7 Speed, but apart from that I've been getting the usual +1/2/3.




Posted by Mystic Hero

Ok, here is the site all about EV's, how they work, and what Pokemon give which. Keep in mind that Pokemon that give at least 2 EV points are better to battle than those that give 1. Also, the League has plenty of Pokemon with Pokemon that give 2-3 EV's a piece. Especially the first of them, the bug user. Dustox and Beautifly give 3 EV's in Sp. Attack and Sp. Defense.

[URL]http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925602/45193[/URL]

Oh yeah Pit, Umbreon won't learn Mean Look until level 57.




Posted by cool gamer dad


Quoting Zeta: Eh, I still haven't got this whole EV thing down. I know on one level up I got +7 Speed, but apart from that I've been getting the usual +1/2/3.

If you're training a high level pokemon against pokemon that give very little EXP, then you're gonna get a large stat boost. EVs are applied to your stats every time you level up, so the longer it takes you to level up, the larger the boost is going to be.

and btw, Pit, I'm 80% positive that the stats were added to your pokemon immediately, it was just too subtle to notice or you're delusional : p.

For every 4 EVs, you get one stat point. Each vitamin gives you 10 EVs, so that's five extra HP for every two vitamins. If you gave it ten, then that's 25 extra HP. Did you level it up to see if it got the boost? If not, try this:

Put your Eevee in the PC, walk out of the pokemon center, walk back in, and withdraw your Eevee. Because putting a pokemon in storage adds whatever earned EVs to your stats, so if you have a level 100 pokemon with no EVs (or just not maxed....), you can do it that way.



Posted by Zeta

Oh yeah, the Battle Tower Prize Exchange seems to have some items that seem to be similar to the Macho Brace (Power Bracer, for instance). How does these work?




Posted by cool gamer dad

Adds 4 Attack EVs after every battle (power bracer).
Speed: Power Ankle
Sp. Def: Power Band
Def: Power Belt
Sp. Attack: Power Lens
HP: Power Weight




Posted by Zeta

Wow. That certainly kicks the Macho Brace's ***. Gonna spend all night in the Battle Tower getting the rest of those things.