Parkour




Posted by Dexter

I never knew the name they slapped on this until just recently. It's basically the act of running around swinging, jumping, climbing, running over obstacles, etc. I've always been one to enjoy this, but it has been increasing recently, as I find myself overcome with energy that screams to be released using any means necessary. Parkour seems to be the best means.

There really is nothing like running through town, city, forest, or whatever and jumping through or over objects. It just feels so great and refreashing. I was playing Riviera last night when all the sudden I was hit with the urge to attack my parkour desire. I took my 16-year old nephew and we ran for what seemed like 5 miles, made it all the way to town and messed around performing the craziest most dexterous things we possibly could on an urban playground. What true Kaleido Stars.

I always get excited when parkour is used in films, too. Like the start of Casino Royale, when the amazing S




Posted by veritas

Yes sometimes I like to just run on top of a bench and jump off. Im glad youve found a new activity to do.




Posted by Dexter

This really isn't a new activity for me. I've been enjoying this ever since I was a child, as far back as I can remember. It was only recently I discovered the term used for it and how widely appreciated it is.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

It's cool to watch, though **** actually doing it. I can barely find the energy to walk down to the store let alone backflip the **** over benches to get there.




Posted by veritas

Yea theres videos of crazy guys jumping down parking garages. ***




Posted by NeXidala

Dexter, how about some videos of you doing some parkour?

That would be pretty awesome.

Also, requesting some of your backflips. :D




Posted by veritas

Yea but please just dont fall on ur neck. Cause...that would be bad




Posted by mis0

Parkour... sounds like a fancy word for [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_running]free running[/url]. My brother is into free running and I fully expect him to land in a cactus one of these days.




Posted by Echo


Quoting Misoxeny: Parkour... sounds like a fancy word for [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_running]free running[/url]. My brother is into free running and I fully expect him to land in a cactus one of these days.


According to [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkour#Free_running]Wikipedia[/url], free running is more artistic than Parkour. What Parkour really is is moving from point A to point B as efficiently and quickly as possible, which usually includes jumping over things and doing crazy acrobatic stuff. Free running isn't about going anywhere, but is more of what Dexter is describing. Free running is just cool acrobatic stuff, usually with little reason. David Belle practices Parkour, while Sebastion Foucan practices free running.



Posted by Raptor

Yeah, I wrote about this in my journal in January of last year. I don't care for referring to it as "parkour," but I do feel the expression "free running" works well enough. I definitely enjoy it, too. It is just as much a state of mind as it is a physical activity. Not only does it require the use of my imagination, it allows me to utilize my physical strength and agility to its maximum. I am especially drawn to heights and enjoy leaping and jumping, and almost sub-consciously scan for objects I can swing from, climb, or leap from and to in the urban environment. Free running through the wilderness is exotic, too. I had discovered a muddy wilderness path near Hilo which was strewn with fallen logs, and decided to run down it wearing only running shorts. There were so many obstacles I had to jump over or slide under, but it wasn't long before I totally entered the zone and manuevered over and around the logs and slid down the muddy slopes with expert precision, as fast as I could run. There is something extremely satisfying and deeply liberating, spiritually and physically, about doing such a thing. In the wilderness, it's a superb way of connecting with nature, and it allows you to see the city in an entirely different light. Not to mention, it's fun and builds technique. Every time I climb over a chain link fence strewn with barbed wire, I get a little better at it.

Also, as it somewhat relates to free running, I'm also very intrigued by the idea of exploring storm drains. Not sewers, but underground canals designed for handling rainwater. That would be such a creative and fascinating method of getting around the city. I believe this sort of thing is commonly known as [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_exploration]Urban exploration[/url]. I haven't had the opportunity to explore all the mysterious little nooks and crannies of dams since I left Arizona, but I certainly hope to again. There's just nothing like going to a large dam in the middle of the night, ducking beneath the security camera at the entrance, sneaking up the spillway, and exploring with stealth every little 'secret' passageway and staircase leading into the depths, seeing where it takes me. All I need to enjoy it is a light and my own curiousity and imagination. Of course, free running and technical movement comes into play heavily in these sorts of activities, especially when having to find ways to bypass locked gates or doors or flee from authorities before they can shine a light in your face and identify you (I always plan out an escape route, in case anyone undesirable should ever show up and try to spoil my fun). All this done underneath a full moon makes for an incredibly surreal experience. Same thing goes for old ruins and abandoned buildings. I could never get enough of it.




Posted by inequity

Looks like fun. My legs would be broken within 5 minutes of trying that stuff though. :(




Posted by Noir

I'm surprised you know about parkour! It was started by David Belle, a french stuntman/actor, and has just recently been picking up a lot of fame. "Free form movement in urban areas" or something, is the best I can translate.
You must see "Banlieue 13" (in English known as District B13). Not only does it star David Belle and has tons of amazing parkour, but is a very enjoyable film as well.
And the name 'parkour'...
I wonder if it is some ghetto spelt version of 'par cours' or basically 'to run'....




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post:
I'm surprised you know about parkour!


How is this surprising? A lot of people know about it thanks to the internet.



Posted by netman

I've never heard of it!




Posted by Omni

How have you never heard of this? There's videos and discussions for it all over the internet, and I've seen some here, too.




Posted by TMNT Freak

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]This is the first time I am hearing of the fancy word for it.

I would normally just say im running around, making it sound like nothing fancy,

The word Parkour to mee seems odd, To me it sounds like a British game for parking a car...[/COLOR]




Posted by Raptor

Running around is nothing fancy, but Parkour actually involves skill and technique. Of course, you can feel free to make up some gaudy-sounding term for other things, such as your skill and technique in Goldeneye 007 single-player. I'm very proficient in the art of Spyraniour, myself.




Posted by KoH

You are really weird, Raptor.

Parkour is the mix of gymnastics and running, basically. Saying "running around" gives the impression of a dog chasing after its tail. Parkour is not this simple and requires a lot more skill and precision.




Posted by Raptor

You are really normal, KoH.

And yeah, like I said. Pretty much exactly what I said.




Posted by Speedfreak

Parkour. Because you're too poor to buy a skateboard and too stupid to not break your legs.




Posted by s0ul

Yeah, let's see you skateboard off a bench, back and forth on parallel walls 5 times onto the top of a 3 story building, then skate off of it skate up a shed do a backflip skating forward onto the grass and-

you get the point




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Dude, you don't even want to see my attempt that. I will wreck your **** with skills.




Posted by Dexter


Quoting Speedfreak: Parkour. Because you're too poor to buy a skateboard and too stupid to not break your legs.


I have three skateboards. Two trick boards and a long board that I suck at using. I enjoy parkour more. Discovering the abilities I have only using my body is quite satisfactory. I often find myself performing maneuvers that I didn't think I'd ever be able to do a few months prior. I was performing much better wall backflips yesterday. I was using anything I could find to improve, trees or brick buildings, and improve I did, until I could move no more. I didn't even have strength left to swing the Wiimote. I slept good last night.



Posted by Dexter


Quoting Noir: You must see "Banlieue 13" (in English known as District B13). Not only does it star David Belle and has tons of amazing parkour, but is a very enjoyable film as well.


Watched it last night. Fun film. I was hoping for some more Parkour but what it had was neat. Seeing that much of David Belle was a real treat, too. What a great hero. Any other films you could suggest with elements of Parkour?



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

JAMES BOND




Posted by Noir

Yeah, James Bond, but also Le Pacte Des Loups, or Brotherhood of the Wolf. That has more kung-fu, anime-inspired Parkour stuff, but a form of Parkour nonetheless. If you look closely, you will also notice David Belle as one of the people in the beginning fight scene.
*DO NOT watch it dubbed, though. If you don't mind subtitles, (unless you can speak French) be sure to watch it in original form. Otherwise, its just plain laughable.




Posted by Skitzo Control

Noir, you do realize that, whether dubbed or subbed, much of the movie is lost in translation? If you don't believe me, just watch The Price is Right with captions and look at how many words end up being changed/missed/added. If they do it with English-to-English subtitling, what makes you think they're not going to do it with Japanese/Some form of Asian-to-English?
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I've never been in a city where parkour was even necessary (or possible) to get from one point to another.




Posted by mis0


Quoting Skitzo Control: I've never been in a city where parkour was even necessary (or possible) to get from one point to another.

I don't think it's really supposed to be necessary. It's fun, I suppose. Though I don't see what's so fun about jumping over trashcans.



Posted by Skitzo Control

[quote=Misoxeny;576182]I don't think it's really supposed to be necessary. It's fun, I suppose. Though I don't see what's so fun about jumping over trashcans.What I mean to say is that I've never been in a town where parkour would be at all useful to get you around. At most, you could cut across some back yards.




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Misoxeny;576182]Though I don't see what's so fun about jumping over trashcans.

Absolutely nothing. The average American town would be pretty awful for Parkour. Try looking at videos on youtube and you'll find that "Parkour" is done in France. European towns are much more compact, generally have taller buildings and have a much higher obstacle density.




Posted by mis0

I don't think it'd be fun anywhere, to be specific. And where I live is probably the worst place anyway... there is open desert behind my house, and large expanses of desert in between everything else.




Posted by Skitzo Control

[quote=Speedfreak;576494]Absolutely nothing. The average American town would be pretty awful for Parkour. Try looking at videos on youtube and you'll find that "Parkour" is done in France. European towns are much more compact, generally have taller buildings and have a much higher obstacle density.That's because they've had a couple hundred years more than the US has to develop them.




Posted by Dexter

Parkour can be done anywhere, be it a city, town, or a forest. It can be done in a single room. And there's more to it than simply jumping over trashcans. It's the flips you perform, the maneuvers your body can handle and discovering your limit and working to extend that. I used a bit of Parkour today to get myself out of school. I guess there was a suspicious guy wearing a trench coat and the police were locking everyone away in class rooms until they found him. I didn't feel like waiting around for an unknown amount of time until they figured it all out or people started to get shot so I escaped by jumping out the window from the 2nd floor and landing with a Link-styled roll and then making my way to my adorable little car. Parkour saved me a good 3 hours of waiting today.

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_051107_news_linncollege_lockdown.5babd11c.html




Posted by Bebop


Quoting Skitzo Control: That's because they've had a couple hundred years more than the US has to develop them.


Which is why Europe is better for parkour. c:



Posted by Raptor


Quoting Dexter: Parkour can be done anywhere, be it a city, town, or a forest. It can be done in a single room. And there's more to it than simply jumping over trashcans. It's the flips you perform, the maneuvers your body can handle and discovering your limit and working to extend that. I used a bit of Parkour today to get myself out of school. I guess there was a suspicious guy wearing a trench coat and the police were locking everyone away in class rooms until they found him. I didn't feel like waiting around for an unknown amount of time until they figured it all out or people started to get shot so I escaped by jumping out the window from the 2nd floor and landing with a Link-styled roll and then making my way to my adorable little car. Parkour saved me a good 3 hours of waiting today.

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_051107_news_linncollege_lockdown.5babd11c.html


And remember, guys, not only can you do Parkour everywhere you please, it also lets you get away with anything.



Posted by NeXidala

Where are those videos of you doing backflips, Dex?

I really wanna see them.




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Skitzo Control;576591]That's because they've had a couple hundred years more than the US has to develop them.

Yeah, no shit. I wasn't slagging off the US, I was just pointing out something that should've been obvious to Misoxeny. The fact that she/he/it didn't realise that other places on this planet might not be built like deserts is pretty...well, I don't think I should finish that sentence.




Posted by mis0

I'm not oblivious to the rest of the world, Speedy. I've lived in cities before and from my experience I put forth my opinion, which obviously isn't very popular: parkour doesn't sound like fun.

By the way, Dexter's example of jumping out a window? Great way to influence the younger users... I'm sure most of them are more apt to break their legs/arms by doing that than landing a "Link-style roll."




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Misoxeny;577414]I'm not oblivious to the rest of the world, Speedy. I've lived in cities before and from my experience I put forth my opinion, which obviously isn't very popular: parkour doesn't sound like fun.

Is that supposed to be "It's not obvious"...?

It's always been obvious to me (and pretty much every single person I know this side of the Atlantic, and most on the other side too) that American cities, suburbs and rural areas look a heck of a lot different to Europe's, why wouldn't it be the same for you? Haven't you ever seen an English street map or pictures of a French town at some point in your life?




Posted by Dexter


Quoting Misoxeny: By the way, Dexter's example of jumping out a window? Great way to influence the younger users... I'm sure most of them are more apt to break their legs/arms by doing that than landing a "Link-style roll."


That's their problem. Noobs shouldn't attempt such wondrous abilities. Wait, it was only from the 2nd floor. I was doing that, like, when I was 12!

Although I certainly understand the influence behind such maneuvers. When I saw Leo jump the waterfall in The Beach, I got an urge to do the same and I certainly would have if I was there with them.



Posted by mis0


Quoting Speedfreak: Is that supposed to be "It's not obvious"...?

It's always been obvious to me (and pretty much every single person I know this side of the Atlantic, and most on the other side too) that American cities, suburbs and rural areas look a heck of a lot different to Europe's, why wouldn't it be the same for you? Haven't you ever seen an English street map or pictures of a French town at some point in your life?

No, it's "oblivious". It's a word, see: http://www.webster.com/dictionary/oblivious

If you knew what that meant, my post would've made sense to you. I obviously know what Europe "looks like" - everyone has seen countless photographs of London and Paris, etc. I can imagine there being more opportunities to utilize parkour maneuvers in European cities, but my point was that my opinion is, is that parkour doesn't seem like a fun activity.



Posted by NeXidala

DEX, CAN WE PLEASE GET SOME VIDS?!




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

Oh good jesus. This thread actually makes me angry, and I don't even practice parkour any more.

Parkour is NOT just running and jumping. It's about efficiency and self-improvement, the philosophy of being fluid in your surroundings and breaking out of the constraints of the environment.

Jumping out of a window, in and of itself, is not parkour. Flips are definitely not part of it. Yeah, it's fun, exhilarating, whatever. But it's not part of what the discipline is about.

While I hate to have to define it, parkour is the act of getting from A to B gracefully, fluidly, and efficiently - not in the most extravagant manner. I see all sorts of people doing a backflip off a building and calling themselves traceurs, and it just makes my blood boil.


Friendly advice: What you really need to work on, before anything, are your rolls and landings - it helps you understand how your body works and improve your balance, as well as the amount of pressure you put on every single one of your joints after springing out of a precision and into a landing.




Posted by Dexter


Quoted post: Jumping out of a window, in and of itself, is not parkour.



Quoted post: parkour is the act of getting from A to B gracefully


Exactly.



Posted by NeXidala


Quoting Dexter: Exactly.


Heh, I must either be getting puposely ignored or something.

Hm, maybe if I ask kindly.....


Dexter, can you please maybe get some videos taht would entertain us all of you doing your parkour and such?



Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

I guarantee you he's not good enough yet. :)

I used to train with these guys, though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSnRHxOCJUU




Posted by NeXidala

They're pretty good.

Are you as good as them?




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

Haha no I'm rubbish. :) I stopped practicing in about October, and haven't got back into it yet. I'm moving in a month or so, and I'm hoping to get back into it there.




Posted by NeXidala

Oh lol.

I'm sure once you get back into it you'll probably become as good as them. Probably better. ;)




Posted by Speedfreak

[quote=Misoxeny;577465]No, it's "oblivious". It's a word, see: [URL]http://www.webster.com/dictionary/oblivious[/URL]

If you knew what that meant, my post would've made sense to you. I obviously know what Europe "looks like" - everyone has seen countless photographs of London and Paris, etc. I can imagine there being more opportunities to utilize parkour maneuvers in European cities, but my point was that my opinion is, is that parkour doesn't seem like a fun activity.

The reason I asked is because you saying you're not oblivious to the rest of the world is completely contradictory to your opinion that Parkour wouldn't be much fun, based on your desert town. I can only go off what you say, you never mentioned that it would also be boring in a city that has more obstacles than just trash cans. It's not my fault you used a shitty example, and it's not unreasonable to assume that the example you provided is what you assume to be the only kind of town Parkour could be practised.

Quite frankly, I think you're backpedaling.




Posted by mis0


Quoting Speedfreak: It's not my fault you used a shitty example, and it's not unreasonable to assume that the example you provided is what you assume to be the only kind of town Parkour could be practised.

Quite frankly, I think you're backpedaling.

Oh shut up. Are you completely stupid or what? I tend to think you are, because that's probably the most idiotic method of argument I've seen in a long time. And this is VGC.

Here's what you did: "lol well all u sed was dat u dun tink dis iz fun dere but dat muss mene ur totoaely ignorint abuot da hole werld AN dat u mus n ot hav kunsidred dat prakore iz dezined in yurop!!!!"

Come again? So, because I didn't explicitly say that "oh, yeah, I've been to Chicago and New York City", my opinion is somehow less valid? It's not even relevant. I'm saying parkour seems stupid, period. When or where parkour is practiced is irrelevant. The only one who is "ignorant" here is you, because somehow you assume that because I live in a desert, I've never seen, been to or lived in a city. This entire time you've just been inserting your meanings into my arguments, and you've taken things so far out of context that we've ended up here.

I'm not backpedaling at all. You're attempting to rewrite my o-p-i-n-i-o-n. I'm not even sure how you've managed to take "I don't think parkour is fun" and turn it into "I'VE NEVER SEEN EUROPE OR A CITY I LIVE IN A DESERT THEREFORE I'M STUPID BUT I STILL THINK PARKOUR SUCKS".

Oh puh-lease. :rolleyes:



Posted by Dexter


Quoting WILLETH FOR MONTHS: I used to train with these guys, though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSnRHxOCJUU


I'm WAY superior to that. I've mastered my fear and am a true Kaleido Star! Just wait, you'll see.



Posted by ElroyJetson

This is definitely cool. But I'm wayyyyyyyy too far out of shape to try doing any of it. I saw the stuff in Casino Royale, and I remember the nike presto commercials from a few years ago. I always thought they were great, and didn't know what it was called. More power to anyone who can manage this stuff.




Posted by PunkRock Sonic

UUh whatever happened to that urban ninja video that was posted a long time ago, I thought only asians could do parkour, I thought it was invented by asians, I thought it was a ninja thing , i thought I thought I thought




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

You were wrong on every point.




Posted by ElroyJetson

You should probably ask a ninja...

I'm here all week.




Posted by neonmole

It looks really fun id love to be able to do it but I have a knee that dislocates itself even if im only walking down the street. Doing that is just asking for trouble!