Klarth




Posted by Iris

He says he's making legitimate posts and they're being deleted. He's also getting banned on a regular basis for no apparent reason. Since he's not banned by infraction, I know it's either Jesse or a super mod doing this.

Fess up before I start playing the same game.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

The vast majority of his recent posts have been trolls in one form or another, so what he considers to be legitimate might not be at all.




Posted by Iris

He says they were serious posts, so regardless of whether or not they're rants or satires, it's still legitimate.

I tend to think he wouldn't want to lie about it when he's not incredibly active as it is.




Posted by Jesse Smith

It wasn't me!!!!!!!!!! I was probably Iris!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D

Oh, wait...who started this thread!!! :D:D:D:D er, then it was another chick!!! :D:D




Posted by Linko_16

Wasn't me, either.




Posted by Linkman

Wasn't me, either. With this infraction thing, it's hard to tell who does what.




Posted by Fate

Klarth strikes me as the type of guy to say "hey i'm leaving" but comes back in hopes to get banned so he could leave for good. In other words, in order for him to leave for real he has to get himself banned. lol what a loser :(

Since he was demodded from DA, he's been a superdouche. Let him stay banned, for all I care.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Since he was demodded from DA, he's been a superdouche. Let him stay banned, for all I care.


Seriously. He says theirs no correlation, but he turned into a dick here pretty much immediately. Plus, he was banned because he wanted to leave, but I think it either wore off or he asked to be unbanned. Shoulda just left it.


Quoted post: With this infraction thing, it's hard to tell who does what.


He wasn't banned with an infraction though. Plus, the only one who would've done it was me, and it wasn't.



Posted by Iris

No, he doesn't like being banned for no reason, which is why he's complaining. If he wanted to be banned then it'd have been done and over with the first time. Besides, he's not actually spamming, so just because he can't make up his mind whether or not to stay doesn't mean he posts for the sake of getting banned purposely.




Posted by Dexter

I banned him. Twice, I think.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: No, he doesn't like being banned for no reason, which is why he's complaining. If he wanted to be banned then it'd have been done and over with the first time. Besides, he's not actually spamming, so just because he can't make up his mind whether or not to stay doesn't mean he posts for the sake of getting banned purposely.


half his posts consist of random mockings or completely off-topic, belittling remarks. Trolling is a form of spam. Plus, even if he's not doing it now, going by past behavior, he'll do it eventually once he gets bored.



Posted by Fate

I've been deleting his posts for just being unnecessarily rude in threads that don't warrant such remarks. Of course he's going to complain-- it's what his "thing" is now.

Like I said, he's the type of guy who can't leave VGC unless he's banned. Like Panic only slightly less gay.




Posted by Iris

I've seen a ton of rude remarks from him, but unless you're going to delete every other rude remark in the thread you have no right deleting his. He's showed me the threads he's posted in. He's told me what he's posted. I know he's not always contributing by being nice or anything, but I see 5 other members doing the same thing in the same thread and not getting their posts deleted.

If you want to make it a new rule then that's fine, but don't be surprised if 60% of the active memberbase (and quite a few of the mods) get banned for doing the same thing as Klarth.




Posted by Dexter

Klarth was standing out more than the usual. I'm fairly lenient as a super mod so someone has to be pretty bad to get a banning from me. And I like having Klarth around. At least I used to.




Posted by Fate

Uhh, I do delete rude remarks that are unnecessary all the time from a lot of members. "Unnecessary" being the key word, there.




Posted by Dexter

I'm not going to delete everything that is rude. That's just dumb. Some rude comments add significance to the topic while others don't. It's up to us to be the judge on what should stay and what should go. I decided a few times that Klarth would be better off gone. He asked to be banned the last time I talked to him.




Posted by Fate

Yeah, "unnecessary"!




Posted by Dexter

Yeah, I was agreeing with you, adding to your point.




Posted by Fate

I guess this means we ****ing rock.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: I've seen a ton of rude remarks from him, but unless you're going to delete every other rude remark in the thread you have no right deleting his. He's showed me the threads he's posted in. He's told me what he's posted. I know he's not always contributing by being nice or anything, but I see 5 other members doing the same thing in the same thread and not getting their posts deleted.

If you want to make it a new rule then that's fine, but don't be surprised if 60% of the active memberbase (and quite a few of the mods) get banned for doing the same thing as Klarth.


Like Fate, I usually delete all rude remakes that are completely unnecessary.



Posted by Fate

For example (not to say this is what Klarth did, but more to say this is how it ruins the flow of things):

"watch this anime it's cool"
"i watched it and it sucked"
"you suck for liking it because that anime sucked"
"watch this anime instead so you will suck less"
DELETION - "you all watch anime so you all suck and you suck dick"




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: DELETION - "you all watch anime so you all suck and you suck dick"


Which is pretty much what all his posts were before this past ban.



Posted by Iris

I wasn't trying to call out names, but the threads he's shown me where perfectly legitimate posts were being deleted weren't in your board, Fate, so sorry if it sounded like I was trying to pick you out. They were mostly in the Music and Arts board.

And no, not every little rude and insulting comment is deleted. You know if you were to do that you'd be getting a little more complaining than just me asking you to stop. Klarth's insults don't add any less than another member saying the exact same thing. Yeah, I've actually read over the threads, and he's said pretty much the exact same thing as other members. Just as relevant to the topic, just as rude. So if you're going to start deleting Klarth's "wow you suck" posts, you'd better all start doing it for every single member who posts basically the same thing, because I know for a fact that you don't.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

So, why exactly are you being so defensive over this? Obviously I can't delete every uncalled for rude comment since I only moderate two boards, so I can't speak for anyone else. But there's more than a couple times I've deleted comments that put down another's taste in music for absolutely no reason, which Klarth has definitely done on more than one occasion. Recently he hasn't been a dick, so I could care less, but prior to this he was and his only purpose here was to troll and/or get banned.




Posted by Fate

Actually, Iris, if you read my example you can see why it warrants a deletion.

Person A says he likes something and suggests other people watch it, but those people already watched it and didn't like it. While they do add personal insults, they are still sticking to the subject. The last person comes in for the sole purpose of saying anyone who has anything to do with the subject sucks. Thanks for the info, bud. You didn't have to respond since it didn't apply to you.

A real example of Klarth's bad posts was in the "trademark" thread. Every intelligent person knows that being truly unique is preposterous, yet the members had fun making contributions to the thread where they felt that should be mentioned, such as Misoxeny's "cacti" thing. It's all in good fun. BUT THEN Klarth came in and posted how everyone was dumb, that nobody was unique, etc. Unnecessary. He also likes to post in all caps a lot in a very sarcastic manner.

Like Vamp said, he seemed like he was trolling just to be a troll.




Posted by Iris

I read your example, but in a lot of the cases the post was no less relevent or rude.

Ex: Borealis comments on a band
Hyper says: Oh ***, you suck
Klarth says: Haha, you're an idiot, Borealis.

Those two posts are right next to eachother and only one got deleted.

Yeah, Klarth does come into threads and generally act hostile, but I've seen so many other members do it in other instances and it be totally acceptable. It's strange why it's suddenly looked down upon by everyone.

I'm simply being defensive because Klarth's been banned like 5 times in the past month for generally being mean. Last time I petitioned to get rid of unnecessary, rude comments in places like Member Pictures, people started complaining that it was overmodding. Now it seems as though the roles are suddenly reversed when it comes to Klarth.




Posted by Fate

I'd delete both. wtf :mad:

I don't have anything against Klarth. :/




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: I'm simply being defensive because Klarth's been banned like 5 times in the past month for generally being mean.


Except, you know, most of those times he wanted to be banned, and one was for linking to porn or something like that.

Anyways, yeah, I don't have anything against Klarth either. But there's a difference between being rude and trolling for the sake of it. In every thread you go to. That's the only problem I have/had with him.



Posted by Iris

He wanted to be banned a while ago, but he's not doing it on purpose now. He's also not simply trolling now either.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

So I've noticed. This is after he was unbanned anyways. He'll eventually go back to trolling, so whatever.




Posted by Dexter

He's being a sucky member. Tell him to be good. Problem fixed.