Virginia Tech Shootings Leave 22 Dead

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[URL]http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3045930[/URL]

Wow... just wow. I saw a video of the shooter taken by someone on the school newspaper, he was just a guy with a pistol shooting everyone he saw. Completely ridiculous, really. And very sad.

Any comments?

Getting pretty ****ing tired of the braindead oafs that think this is a good way to solve their problems.

Yeah, I just got a phone call from my mother telling me about this. It's really shocking. I remember Columbine happening, but I was only 10 at that time. Now that I'm on a college campus, however, and something of this scale happens on a college campus, it's a lot more impacting. My prayers go out to the families of the victims.

I wish I could say I'm shocked by this. But the fact is that wacko's can go and get a gun and not have many problem. Horrible indeed, shocking, I'd wish.

Death toll is up to 32 now.

Finally, someone kills more than three or five students. Now this guy knows how to rampage.

I heard it was 32 + 4 teachers and rising.

And as usual, Jack Thompson is strokin his HRBL to this!

I have to agree with Raptor at a point. But its pretty messed up...shocked that it happen sort of...I'm very interested in it...Surprised by death toll no.....I give my sorrows to the ones who have lost someone though.

It's just dirty laundry.

I would easily get 50 just going from classroom to classroom. This guy didn't impress me at all.

I just saw this in the news

Someone p!ssed off the wrong guy

You guys think you can do better? Fine. We'll have settle this with a contest.

The rules are as follows:

Choose a university of your choice.

Your instrument of death MUST be either a small household kitchen knife, and a 9mm. ONLY. Bring as much ammunition as you desire.

It is first to 250 points.

Women are two points.

Blacks are worth four.

A black woman is ten points. Children are negative two points. Unless the child is black, in which case no points will be deducted.

Mexicans are worth nothing.

All not mentioned are one point.

Black universities are fair game.

Your finishing time will be taken into consideration in a close match with an opposing player. You may not kill the opposing player at any time during the game.

Keep in mind that a stealth mission will often work in your favor, so think before you act. The game does not have to end in any finite amount of time, unless your life ends before your spree does.

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It's first come, first serve.

NAME:
ADDRESS:
PHONE:
EMAIL:
MOTIVES:

Best of luck to all competitors. How will YOU be remembered?

Do you get extra points for not killing yourself and escaping capture? Or do you have to shoot yourself? Also, I'd imagine having someone else shoot you deducts points.

Wait, blacks are only worth 4 points? What the hell?

What about homosexuals? That should be an easy 15 points right there.

I freaking love the world. I just heard his g/f dumped him or something and on top of that he's Asian. What a great way to get revenge. First person he shot was supposedly his X, point blank I think. My friends and I were thinking Boom Head shot. On top of this I can only guess one of his professors gave him a 99 on a test... Idk, but from my point of view this one appeared humerous in a twisted kind of way.

I think its pretty pointless when they kill themselves at the end. Its like, what the hell did u accomplish. Anywho his math teacher probably did give him a 99 on his test.

No, no, he got a 100. He just didn't get the extra credit question right.

That would be pretty funny if thats the reason why he did it. I guess a Jew would do it if someone stole a quarter from them.

[quote=Mystic Hero;568354]I freaking love the world. I just heard his g/f dumped him or something and on top of that he's Asian. What a great way to get revenge. First person he shot was supposedly his X, point blank I think. My friends and I were thinking Boom Head shot. On top of this I can only guess one of his professors gave him a 99 on a test... Idk, but from my point of view this one appeared humerous in a twisted kind of way.



And what do you mean by "top of that he's Asian." :rolleyes:

Shootings kids is no laughing matter, seriously.. Those little bastards hurt when they bite.

have any of you seen elephant? those kids knew how to get **** done

Indeed, that hit rather close to home. I can remember back when I was still in high school, being flagged as a potential risk for certain actions such as this. But, only because I was labeled a reclusive, reckless trouble maker. When in reality, I'm fully able to sympathize with others, just choose to not get involved or allow myself to give a **** about them. Thus, living by "Better him than me".

Judge, you still wear trench coats? Haha.. ;)

Sorry, I'll take this seriously from now on. 'Cause, you know, this is a serious event. A lot of people died. It made the news. That's how I know how serious it is. This event made the news, therefore I should care. Because it is a big event in which many people died. I will let this affect me enough to be serious, even though it really doesn't affect me. But it made the news and a lot of people died. Serious business. I apologize for being such a tosser. I just didn't realise it was this serious.

I am now thoroughly depressed.

I'd have to agree with Bj here. This is a little more serious a subject so only serious responses are warranted. I don't think joking about it is really funny.

I personally imagine a lanky white male when I think of these shooting happening. Not an Asian.

Even when my best friend was dying we had fun with it. He was laughing about it, cracking jokes about how he won't be able to see the final Lord of the Rings or Star Wars installment. We had are serious discussions and thoughts about it, as well. We shed our tears and had our laughs. At his funeral I started my speech on some of the goofy things we did in our lives and then did a transition into a more serious side of the event. I had his family and friends laughing when I told them about the time I made Ryan, the dead man, who was a devoted Christian, circumcise a graven image of the *** Apollo and how close we were to getting caught by the security guards. It definitely put everyone in a better mood and was a great presentation on what sort of a fellow he really was and the memories I shared with him.

Stuff like this makes me think, about stuff.....Mainly the Montreal Massacre. For those who don't know this was a shooting in which the criminal booted all the males out of the class and made all the wemon stand with the backs to the shooter along a chalkboard. He then open fired and distroyed them all. :(

We had a discussion about this massacre in general today in English. This is were I learned that my high school was targeted to has a shooting on Halloween in 2002. Rumour had it that 14 killers were going to walk into spacific classes and open fire on everyone and everything. Also the rumour states that the killers would each to take the teachers and hang them on the football field goal posts. Not even 90 students out of 2000 attended school that day. This threat was a haox and nothing more.

Anyway I was just babblin'. >_>

Yeah, only taking out 5 unarmed kids is pretty unimpressive. 30 with a pistol is a pretty decent number, but it seems kinda weird that he could do that with a pistol. I mean, how big's a glock clip? Seems like he could've been jumped during a reload or something, guess I don't really know how this all played out though. It always surprises me that out of all the people that die during these things, no one died tackling the bastard into a shark tank. Oh well, no sense being beat up about it. [spoiler]he had overshield[/spoiler]

Very sad. :(:(:(

[quote=Down the Sun]Judge, you still wear trench coats? Haha..
They're warm and fashionable. (Real ones, not Hot Topic fitted ones)
[quote=Ant]I personally imagine a lanky white male when I think of these shooting happening. Not an Asian.
Thanks, buddy. Means a lot.

What's funny (not necessarily haha funny) is that he kills two people in a dorm, goes back into his room and waits for two hours, then kills 30 more. I know it's a tech school and it's full of nerds... but come on.

I don't particularly care about this whole thing. Does that make me an attempted hardass? So, if you care, then you don't need to impress others, and you're just better all around. I think I get it.

So... I fail to see the difference between the deaths that happened at Virginia Tech and the deaths that happen every day, all over the world. I'm willing to bet more than 32 innocent children died yesterday, worldwide. Innocent children dying is a popular thing to be upset about, so why aren't people sad about that? Because they don't hear about it. So if those deaths were put on the news, would you feel obligated to "get sad" about it?

Oh man, an ACTION! I better RESPOND!

Or is it because this shooting happened at a college, where kids are supposedly safe...? Is that what makes it tragic enough to take seriously at all times?

if there was a thread posted about said children and jokes were made, I'd be the same annoying jerkoff then as I am being now. Tragic's tragic. I don't have any special alternative reasons, so quit insinuating that I do.

Effort? Is it really that difficult for you to come up with a line or two of text and use your fingers to type the words out? It's like, twenty seconds of no effort whatsoever. And who exactly am I insulting here? Was anyone insulted, other than BJ, by what I said? Don't think so. Not like the families visit this site or anyone personally knows them. Doubt that would change anything anyways.

And yeah, okay buddy. Thank *** for the internet and the vast distance that separates us, otherwise I'd really be fearful of you shoving a foot up my bum. Christ, you're really dumb sometimes.

this is a terrible tragedy. You guys are acting like idiots. show some compassion for those whom have lost their lives. the closest thing to that for me is when this kid at my school went AWOL and started stabbing people with a needle. (i was unscathed however)

First the bomb threat, then a massacre, 4chan is really on a roll here. I wonder if the FBI really will be watching /b/.

I'm going to have to agree with BJ. Not that I expect tact here any more than I used to, but because it's pointless insensitivity. It's not an alternative to coping or helping some one else cope. It's simply making a laughing stock of a tragedy. And yes, this is a tragedy, even if you didn't know anyone there or take into consideration the fact that people die all the time. Any death can be tragic, and eventhough no one's asking for your sympathy, joking about matters which in no way warrants humor is a sign of immense immaturity.

Honestly, grow up. Just because you want to make it public that something isn't worth your time doesn't mean it's not worth anyone else's. Constantly making snide remarks and insults towards something you supposedly don't even care about is a waste of time, regardless of how quick you can think of a knee-slapper, because it's completely tactless and unfunny.

[quote]What's funny (not necessarily haha funny) is that he kills two people in a dorm, goes back into his room and waits for two hours, then kills 30 more. I know it's a tech school and it's full of nerds... but come on.
I'm pretty sure the first killed was his ex-girlfriend, so I doubt he was prepared to go on a killing spree immediately after murdering her.

I don't think its that easy to take a life. Sure its a simple pull the trigger but come on, there is a lot of emotion that goes along with it. If anyone were to kill someone, especially those who know its horribly wrong would feel some sort of remorse. Thats a pretty high number and it should have been zero. I have to agree with BJ on this.

I could kill tons and do it quickly and accurately too because I'm an ambidextrous greyhound with opposable thumbs.

I think all the jokes about VTech have come far too early. Give it time people. Tragedy+time=comedy

I currently attend college. I know that in my German class, there are no windows and there is only one door. I can imagine that some of those murdered may have been helplessly traped, and I can fathom how the last few seconds of ones life being ended as the gunman chains the door shut and starts shooting your classmates to death with possibly no option of escapse and no weapon to fight back has to be an absolutely terrible way to die.

This is the internets, but I'm really not amused this with what I've seen here today. I know I shouldn't expect much, but really, what the Hell is wrong with you lot?

No weapon? It's a class full of students against one asian with two pistols. ****ing tackle that *****, it's twenty against one.

I imagine when he's shooting at you, your natural reaction is not going to be "JUMP ON HIM LLOLOL"

Natural reaction? Probably not... but I would've assumed someone would try and do something. If you're trapped and going to die, well ****, do something.

wow Vamp, it seems I do have allies over here in hippy-wuss ville. And you missed the point of my "anonymous" comment entirely. I know for a fact that you, nor any of the others that are making light of this would do it in any other medium than anonymously on the computer. You aren't going around in public pointing at television screens in various places and saying "Hah! What a tool! I could have gotten so many more! Man that's funny!" etc. Why? Because people like me would kick your *** for doing it. Simple as that. You guys are taking advantage of your anonymity to do things you wouldn't normally do, which is openly laugh about tragedy. I guess that's the real ***** about complete freedom of speech. . . having to pay the consequences for exercising it like a dick. I did lol when I saw you saying "does anybody feel offended like Bj does!? Didn't think so!" (paraphrased, of course) and having ignored a few dissenters before your saying that, still looked pretty silly when others piped in. Oh what silly creatures we with integrity and civility are! We're not animals. We don't and shouldn't mock or completely ignore tragedy. That's what makes us different from those pathetic beasts I swerve off the road to cream on a regular basis (lol, raptor). If you're going to act so uncivilized, maybe you and the furry boys should go play a game of grab-tail out in the back yard. lawl

and you're pretty sure you'd just run up and tackle the guy, eh? I guess you've never been in a real fight in your life. It's called "fight or flight" for a reason, and when someone's shooting at you, it's highly unlikely you'll have the agility like our beastophile friends to do a few cartwheels, a somersault, and a flying dragon kick through gunfire to knock the guy down and save the day. I'm pretty sure there were guys involved that are braver than you, me, or anyone else, and apparently they weren't able to. But you're different, right? You'd be the hero, right? I'd like to think I'd be able to do something heroic and take out some cracked-out looking kid taking out his "never kissed a girl" angst via handguns. But in reality, I can't say what I'd do. Adrenaline rush and instinct, and all that

[quote=Bebop;569060]I think all the jokes about VTech have come far too early. Give it time people. Tragedy+time=comedy
Eh, hold out on that idea just a little bit longer, BB. I have a feeling, they'll be ragging at this for a while.

Anyone else curious why they didn't close the school after the first two murders? It seems like a double homocide is a good reason to shut down a campus for the day, even if it is as big as a city. I mean, cities don't shut down because of double homocides, but cities aren't prepared to shut down like a school is. You'd think that as soon as the first two murders occurred, they would've just sent everyone home for at least the day, and resumed classes later on.

[quote=Fei-on Castor;569319]Anyone else curious why they didn't close the school after the first two murders? It seems like a double homocide is a good reason to shut down a campus for the day, even if it is as big as a city. I mean, cities don't shut down because of double homocides, but cities aren't prepared to shut down like a school is. You'd think that as soon as the first two murders occurred, they would've just sent everyone home for at least the day, and resumed classes later on.

I don't fully know if you understand the layout of this entire act. But, had they've shut down the campus and released the students. The flow of traffic would have lead straight into harms way. Yes, he had positioned himself directly in the middle of where the most casualties could have been collected. They would have marched right into his gunshots like cattle, being led to slaughter. Releasing them before hand, directly after the first two murders would have proven the same results. The dorm building he was currently located in, at that time, was somewhere close to the main exit points of the campus.

But I'd be willing to bet he'd have a lot more trouble hitting targets outside than in a classroom with everyone contained.

Furthermore, if he was near a main exit point, the people passing by that point would be in danger, yes, but he would probably have been stopped by Campus Security, as they usually have a station near the entrances and exits of a campus.

And finally, he killed the first two, then spent a minute or two making that letter for NBC, and if the campus had been cleared out right after that murder, he wouldn't have been prepared to start shooting, maybe not having time to put on his armored vest or gather a lot of spare ammo.

The point is, I think that when a double homocide takes place on a school campus, it's time to close the school for the day or even a few days to investigate and so forth.

You can bet schools that didn't even consider it before will start doing it now.

well they found out that he plaied counter strike so now jack and every other lawer out there will be theing to blame video games and sue valve


great

I'm more worried about the effect on the political races.

The guy apparently bought the gun legally, according to VA State Law, so all the politicians are gonna bring the gun control issue out to the forefront and use this tradgedy to recruit supporters, whether for or against gun control.

The guy wasn't American, so I don't think they'll claim American culture (like video games) influenced him to do what he did. I'm sure it will come up a few times, but I doubt it will become a big issue like it has in the past.

[quote=Fei-on Castor;569323]The point is, I think that when a double homocide takes place on a school campus, it's time to close the school for the day or even a few days to investigate and so forth.

Point dully noted.. The campus I go to, had a shooting not too long ago (about a year ago). I believe classes were canceled for a week. Some deranged bastard of the "nutjob ex-boyfriend" demographic (yet again) had dragged his ex-girlfriend out of a classroom and shot her dead, execution style. And, not by the means of Fox News' term of "execution style", or MSNBC's.. strictly street fashion.

we've never had a shooting :s but if we did, i suspect i'd run like a little ***** and not try to fight back in any way. human nature, right? ;o
run > gun ftw

The thing about this that p[COLOR="White"]i[/COLOR]sses me off if the fact that he had a lot of signs of being a nut case who would do this. He was even escorted to theorpy by the police one time.

How are we supposed to stop these guys before they kill? This kid was literally pinned as some one who would do this and he got away with it. If we don't change the way we deal with this stuff then we might was well prepare for more.

you can't just lock up everyone who could at one point or another kill other people :\ many people show signs of sadistic behavior that don't shoot schools up; infact, a lot of school shootings that do occur aren't out of paranoia or craziness; rather out of revenge or to make a statement. this incident shouldn't change anything regarding the mentally deranged. if they kept him in school it was probably because he was brilliant (in regards to his school work and writing, not the shooting ;\) and if they thought taking him out would've helped him, i'm sure they would've.

edit: ****ing ninja'd; this post was for tendoaddict

Whoa, BJ, you typed way too much there. Not even going to bother to read it. So you can just pat yourself on the back and congratulate yourself for winning an argument in a thread that was supposed to be about something really sad. Kinda defeated your whole purpose in a way. lol tact

Hope you had fun wasting you time.

I saw my name in there while scrolling and I'll assume his comments were negative. Anyway, yeah.

[quote=Raptor;569419]We're all animals, buddy pal. All composed of the same basic matter and all maintaining the same basic struggle for survival in the same physical world. Humans operating under the delusion that they are 'above' common beasts never fails to amuse me. But remember, man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to. :o

CEREBRAL CORTEX AND HIGHER COGNITIVE FUNCTIONS MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU KNOW OF THEM?

We are the only animals on the planet with them, you CANNOT deny that we are above all other animals on an intellectual level. Furry bullshit or not.

Well, no shit. Humans are 'above' other animals in the sense that they're at a much higher intellectual level and are consequentially at the top of the food chain, but they are still mere mortal creatures, which is what I was clearly referring to. The most "evolved" animal, and simultaneously the Earth's major scourge. More specifically, what I was getting at is that I don't hold any more reverence for the lives of random human beings than the lives of wildlife at the park. I don't think any more highly of humanity in general than other mammals, especially considering it will probably end up using that oh-so divine intellect to wipe themselves off the face of the planet while taking billions of other species with them.

On the path to self-destruction YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

I remember how upset Raptor was about some PETA scare-tactic video with animals being tortured. I bet if I posted some Jihadist video with some guy getting his head sawed off, Raptor would crack a joke. He's consistent like that.

Felt now would be the best time to lighten the mood with a good joke.

What's the difference between a dead baby and an apple?

You don't jizz on an apple before you eat it!

Hahahaha...

EDIT: I just realized the title of the thread, and I know if I'd made it, it would've been called "Virginia Tech Shootings Leave The Judge Loling."

If you have not decided what college to attend or if you are already in college but hate your school go to Virginia Tech

Why attend Virginia Tech you ask

Well it is a good school to attend and tuition is going to be extremely low for the next five years because they are going to have a lot of trouble getting people to register for the school, so they are going to have to drop the price of tuition so they can get people to sign up.

Haha, I get it Judge, because you're dark and mysterious.

And psychotic. Don't forget that. :)

That Judge is such a scamp!

I just envisioned the monsters from Oblivion with the face of the judge. Huh.

I just imagined Judge going through a crosswalk during busy traffic in 90 degree weather, wearing a black trenchcoat and carrying a wooden staff.

Don't forget a hockey mask.

more like ballistics face mask, amirite? yeah I am

potato sack

Yeah or he was blatantly trying to get a reaction out of you and sarcastically poking fun at the people who are being callous about this and the people being defensive about it at the same time and IRONICALLY demonstrating some tact. Owned. Every last one of you by the Judge.

Can never go wrong with plated steel grafted onto the face.. amirite?

Except Judge is pretty emo/mysterious so that kind of response from him is expected.

It's always good when babies die. Thats why I eat lamb.

GUESS WHAT? I'm contributing to the deaths of EVERYTHING. GREENHOUSE GASES WILL KILL YOU ALL!!!!!! CARBON ROX!!!1
[spoiler]yeah, I'm saying you're all being stupid. "Lol dead humans NO U DEAD ANIMALS!!!1" Pretty weak, even for VGC.[/spoiler]