I need a browser




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

IE7 eats memory, Opera works very bizarrely with Gmail and Firefox is missing functions. Can anyone recommend anything else? Currently I'm thinking about going back to IE6.




Posted by higbvuyb

IE6 + an IE shell - a 'browser' that uses Microsoft Internet Explorer's engine, but adds lots of features.

Like, Maxthon:
[url]www.maxthon.com/[/url]
which is what I use. Even though I do use the IE7 engine.




Posted by Trigger

Firefox is missing what kind of features?




Posted by higbvuyb


Quoting Trigger: Firefox is missing what kind of features?

An auto-crash system? Only IE offers that.



Posted by Sean Fury

Firefox ftw. Any missing features can easily be remedied with extensions.

I kinda liked MYIE2 though, sort of like Firefox, but less user friendly.




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS


Quoting Trigger: Firefox is missing what kind of features?

There was just an awful lot about it that irritated me. Like the fact that there's no obvious way to open a new tab without a keyboard shortcut. Or that there's no execute button on the address bar. IE7 would be perfect for me if it didn't crash all the ******* time.



Posted by Sean Fury


Quoting Wings: There was just an awful lot about it that irritated me. Like the fact that there's no obvious way to open a new tab without a keyboard shortcut. Or that there's no execute button on the address bar. IE7 would be perfect for me if it didn't crash all the ******* time.


Don't you have a wheel mouse? I thought everyone had those nowadays. All you have to do is click that on a link and it opens as a new tab, or you could just right click and open in new tab...and as for an execute button, what about pressing enter?



Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

Because sometimes there's occasions where pressing Enter isn't the ideal situation. And most of the time I don't want to open existing links in a new tab, I was to create a fresh one - in both Opera and IE7 there's a button for this. In Firefox I have to press Ctrl+N (I think). It's ridiculous.

EDIT: Okay so I went back into Firefox and changed the preferences so that now the tabs bar shows constantly, which means it's a lot easier to add a new tab - before if I only had one open, it was a pain, now it's a right-click then a click. Are the any extensions out there that'll enable me to have a button for a new tab?




Posted by Sean Fury


Quoting Wings: Because sometimes there's occasions where pressing Enter isn't the ideal situation. And most of the time I don't want to open existing links in a new tab, I was to create a fresh one - in both Opera and IE7 there's a button for this. In Firefox I have to press Ctrl+N (I think). It's ridiculous.

EDIT: Okay so I went back into Firefox and changed the preferences so that now the tabs bar shows constantly, which means it's a lot easier to add a new tab - before if I only had one open, it was a pain, now it's a right-click then a click. Are the any extensions out there that'll enable me to have a button for a new tab?


You mean clicking the moust wheel? You didn't say if you had one. And you keep saying new tab, but do you mean a new window? I'm very confused, because CTRL+N makes a new window and CTRL+T makes a new tab.



Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

Clicking the mouse wheel works if you have a link to click on. If I'm already browsing VGChat in one tab but I want to open another to check my email, there's no button to open a new tab immediately - I have to rely on a keyboard shortcut (which I now realise is Ctrl+T).

Another issue I have with it is that it tends to open new windows from other applications - say if someone sends me a link in Messenger, if I click it and have Firefox open, it'll still open a new window and not a new tab.




Posted by Sean Fury


Quoting Wings: Clicking the mouse wheel works if you have a link to click on. If I'm already browsing VGChat in one tab but I want to open another to check my email, there's no button to open a new tab immediately - I have to rely on a keyboard shortcut (which I now realise is Ctrl+T).

Another issue I have with it is that it tends to open new windows from other applications - say if someone sends me a link in Messenger, if I click it and have Firefox open, it'll still open a new window and not a new tab.


But you could always just have your email in the quick link bar like I do, very convenient and takes up little room. Observe:



Also don't ask why Neopets is still on there.

But I understand your problem with the messenger thing, I NEVER go on them anymore, but before it was a pain in the *** because it would always open in IE for me and spam me with popups. Such a bother.



Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

Well that's an option. I guess I'm used to my makeshift solution that I had from an old version of IE - I click Home and then I have a load of 88x31 banners for random stuff:



The main thing I like about it is the search bar, but I guess that's redundant now, eh. :) It does need updating with all my new links and the removal of some old ones, though. I guess I'll go with that.

Also, what skin is that you're using?




Posted by Sean Fury

It's called iFox Smooth. Very nice.

And I like what you did with your Google homepage, I've never actually seen that before. Mine is just a random collabaration of stuff I may or may not care about.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2758/untitled1lm1.png




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

...it's not a Google homepage. It's just a local HTML file with a table in it.

I had a glance around and ended up grabbing the iFox Graphite one. This is something I shall have to investigate further. :)




Posted by Sean Fury


Quoting Wings: ...it's not a Google homepage. It's just a local HTML file with a table in it.

I had a glance around and ended up grabbing the iFox Graphite one. This is something I shall have to investigate further. :)


Yeah, I love Firefox's customization. I've got it perfect the way I have it. I have the weather, something that lets me change around my music without changing to the player, down them all (useful for 4chan), and a ton of other stuff. Firefox ftw, like I said.



Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

Haha, that Graphite one's tabs were ugly. I did find one that emulated IE7, though. Take that!




Posted by Trigger

IE7 looks ugly.




Posted by Hyper


Quoting Wings: Another issue I have with it is that it tends to open new windows from other applications - say if someone sends me a link in Messenger, if I click it and have Firefox open, it'll still open a new window and not a new tab.


The Tabbrowser Preferences plugin can fix that if there isn't an option in Firefox by default to do so. I know I have my external links open in a new tab somehow.



Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

Ah, thanks.




Posted by Trigger

[quote]Or that there's no execute button on the address bar.
Have a look in the screen shot of Sean Fury's Firefox browser - that small dot between the address bar and the Google search bar is the equivalent of Internet Explorer's "Go" button. This dot can change appearance based on the theme you choose to use on your Firefox browser, but there is a button, for arguments sake. No need to press enter if you don't need though (despite that I cannot think of a time where enter is not idea in a situation).

[quote]Another issue I have with it is that it tends to open new windows from other applications - say if someone sends me a link in Messenger, if I click it and have Firefox open, it'll still open a new window and not a new tab.
Firefox's own tabbing preferences allow external links to automatically open within a new tab inside the current window, as opposed to opening an entirely new browser window itself. Look around in your browser preferences and options sometime, you'll be pleasantly surprised how many people create unnecessary add-ons to do the functions that were always available.

Tools > Options > Tabs

New pages should open in:
* a new window
* a new tab

It does work with links from other applications, it is how I have had Firefox operating from day one. I use version 2.0.0.1 at the moment.

[quote]Clicking the mouse wheel works if you have a link to click on. If I'm already browsing VGChat in one tab but I want to open another to check my email, there's no button to open a new tab immediately - I have to rely on a keyboard shortcut (which I now realise is Ctrl+T).
In the same location as mentioned above, you can instruct Firefox to always display the tab bar, regardless of whether you have multiple tabs open or not. When you need to open a new tab, simply double click on the bar to open a new tab or right-click on the bar and select 'new tab' from the menu. To be honest with you, Firefox doesn't rely on keyboard shortcuts at all - Mozilla designed their browser to be functional for those with shortcut experience/desire as well as users who aren't as advanced and perform most, if not all, of their functions with a mouse. They aren't hidden, they don't make it hard to perform, people simple choose not to see what is actually there before they complain. If it's not there immediately, without a setting being selected, it was never there at all and that's a really poor attitude to carry, in my opinion.




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

I've already done all that you suggested - I didn't realise that double-clicking on the bar relinquished a new tab, though. Thanks.

And yeah, I don't know what was up with me thinking there was no 'go' button - there clearly is, even on the default skin. What I'm more annoyed with, though, is the fact that when you click and drag on a portion of the address bar that's selected, it becomes a moveable object rather than selecting the text from where you clicked.

I'm not a fan of extra clicks, basically. But it's a minor issue.




Posted by Trigger

[quote=Wings]What I'm more annoyed with, though, is the fact that when you click and drag on a portion of the address bar that's selected, it becomes a moveable object rather than selecting the text from where you clicked.
I am desperately trying to produce the same issue with my address bar that you are experiencing but I am having no luck. No matter how hard I try, no matter where I click or begin to drag, it does nothing or merely highlights the address already in the address bar. Unless you are clicking the icon, just before the text, which is their way of quickly allowing you to create a shortcut that can be placed in a folder, on the desktop or in your quick-launch bar - anywhere you want to put it, really. Move your cursor just a little bit after the address icon and you should be able to begin highlighting the text. Alternatively, Control and A will highlight all of it. You can also single click in an empty space address bar and it will automatically highlight the entire address for you.




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

Okay, you're nearly there. Click the address once. It'll all highlight. Now click and drag at any point to select one portion of it.

See what I mean?




Posted by Trigger

So place your cursor at the start of the portion you wish to copy and when you go to click the address, click and drag over the text instead and stop wherever you wish. Custom text highlighting! :O




Posted by avalanch

get firefox with the adblocker plus extension, ftw.




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS


Quoting Trigger: So place your cursor at the start of the portion you wish to copy and when you go to click the address, click and drag over the text instead and stop wherever you wish. Custom text highlighting! :O


I don't understand that.



Posted by Trigger

In this example, I will use this threads address and copy the "showthread.php?" portion of the address only. Place your mouse cursor (which should look like an I when hovered over the address bar) at the beginning of the word showthread - after the / and before the s. Click, holding the mouse button down as you drag the mouse cursor to the ? and release the mouse button. It should then have selected showthread.php? and would look like this:

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/RavenWriter/selected.jpg[/IMG]




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

Okay great. Now do all of that, but before doing anything, click the address bar once so that all the text is highlighted. Now try to click and drag to select part of the text without clicking again. It treats it as a movable object.




Posted by Trigger

This is why I carefully stated that you should click, keeping the mouse button down and dragging your cursor, then releasing the button when reaching the end of your selected text. Otherwise, I would have said, "click the address bar, then click and drag the cursor..."

It's really not that hard.




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

YES I UNDERSTAND. MY PROBLEM IS THAT YOU CANNOT DO THAT WHEN THE TEXT IN THE ADDRESS BAR IS ALREADY SELECTED.




Posted by Hyper

Why would you want to?




Posted by WILLETH FOR MONTHS

Because sometimes that happens.

Look, I didn't mean to turn this into an epic discussion, I just mentioned you couldn't do it and then Trigger got all confused.




Posted by Trigger

So when the entire address bar becomes selected in its entirely, click again and then click and drag.

Seriously, the only reason this thread is such an "epic discussion" is because you're a picky bastard who doesn't know how to use a simple browser. These browsers do everything that you ask for, so quit being whiney about having to click the mouse button one more time or having to press enter, or having to double click a tab bar or use a keyboard shortcut.

If using a computer and its simple functions is really that much of a hassle for you, perhaps you shouldn't be using one at all.




Posted by Tiptoegecko


Quoting higbvuyb: An auto-crash system? Only IE offers that.


I beg to differ. FF crashed on me several times. IE7 is prooving to me its better than FF.



Posted by Vampnagel P. Wingpire

Stop downloading porn.

And my ***, Firefox is simple to use, and contains everything you need. It is superior to every other browser that I've used.