Upon reading Angelwing's post about masturbating at 4 or 5 years old, Hitomi (eggroll) said that little kids can't feel pleasure from it and thus it's not masturbating.
We're all sitting here telling her she's wrong, and that kids masturbate because it feels good. They derive pleasure from it, and thus they do it, and it's called masturbating.
So are we wrong or right?
Exceptions. They exist.
She is SO wrong.
I remember the good old days of being 4 or 5, I went to preschool, came home, drank some juice, sat around, then I touched my winkie and I loved every moment of it. It WAS masturbating and it was awesome. I knew what I liked. I liked what I did, and I did what I liked. That's that.
i need scientific proofs, otherwise, no.
who the hell even tries that at 5 years old
It's not really hardcore sexual pleasure, it just feels good (how it was for me and most guys I know, at least... don't know about women). It's like a sweet little tickle that screams of awesome.
It's true. I saw it on an episode of House!
According to Sigmund Freud, every child goes through what is known as "Psychosexual Development," a form of childhood development that focuses mainly on sexual desire. They experience each "stage" at a certain age, and if anything "harms" their development during each of these stages, they could form a type of fetish with each part.
First is the oral stage, which happens within the first year and a half, a stage we don't need to worry. The second is the anal stage, which happens within the first three years, again, no concern. The third stage, the phallic stage, which occurs between the ages of three and six, is the stage that is in question.
This is the point where a young boy (mostly, the focus of the study is upon males) begins to take part in masturbation. They also develop what is known as the Oedipus Complex: a love for their mother, and a wish that their father was not their so they may have a true love life with their mother. The masturbation for the child is very natural, and they are known to feel pleasure from it, often reaching orgasm (of course, due to a lack of full-developed reproductive organs, the climax will lack semen).
Unfortunately, Freud has no theories for the development of women, so I'm afraid I cannot (from my own knowledge) recount any information on this subject on females. He has been known to say, "Pyschology, too, is unable to solve the riddle of femininity," because, simply put, Freud could not understand women, and thus could not incorporate their behaviors into his studies.
As a kid (maybe 6ish?) I knew that if I rubbed my crotch along the arm of the sofa or touched myself in my special place, it felt good. I didn't know it was called masturbation, I didn't know what I was doing, all I knew was that it felt good so I continued to do it.
When I got a bit older (maybe 9ish?) I had heard something on the tv that said if a woman walks around after having sex she's less likely to get pregnant. So I began walking around my room after I was finished touching myself because I was afraid of getting pregnant. :/
Then when I was a wee bit older than that (maybe 12ish?) me and a couple of the neighborhood kids would go and play truth or dare in my neighbors treehouse. We thought that if we pulled our pants down and layed on top of each other we were having sex. That's what they did in the movies, and it was supposed to feel good, so thats what we did. Missed the little XXX part about that whole penetration thing though.
Point being, kids do things because they feel good or because they imitate what they see on tv or see going on around them. If it didn't feel good the first time I accidentally rubbed my clit, I certainly wouldn't have continued to do it intentionally for the past 22 years of my life. Just because kids don't know the name for what they're doing or because they don't achieve orgasm from it, doesn't negate the fact that its still maturbation.
I can't give testimony on this, because my sexual awakening was greatly delayed compared to most other kids. No one explained to me anything about sex, no matter how I asked, but when I discovered porn on teh intarweb (maybe 11 or so, or perhaps a little younger), I eventually figured out the whole "penis get big, touch, feel good" part. When I was fifteen, I first achieved orgasm without meaning to (much to my shock and surprise... It took me several minutes to figure out what had happened).
So I really can't say. I remember getting hard as a kid and thinking it meant I have to go to the bathroom.
I've masturbated till climax when I was 8. i came air.
I remember touching my ball sack when I was 8. Only when it got all hard though.
Of course it's masturbation. Self-stimulation is pretty much inherent in humans. Masturbation does not include a climax, just the act of doing it to get there. Everyone wants to be comfortable. Some kids may not even know it's really masturbation, they just want to get it out of the way.
Very much like NES Queen, I didn't know what it was called, or why I was doing it, but I did know it felt good, so I continued on. Of course it was masturbation. Your friend is incorrect.
There, Hitomi. See? You're WRONG.
I've never really had any of these experiences, but then again, I am in my mid to late teens and I still don't get it. Maybe I just have issues. :link: I can't even stand the sight of two people kissing on television.
When I was little I thought getting an erection meant it was time to go pee.
You were beatin' it.
Meh, I found out like most of you people (shocked and awed).
But Instead of a talk me and my dad watched an informational video that just about told me everything (after he found out I jerked it). So I probably knew more then most people.
But we DID have the masturbation and porn talk. The masturbation one was him probably thinking I was going to wear myself out. The porn one was the whole "Woman are not sex things" speach.
So its pretty odd.
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As for the kid masturbating
mas·tur·ba·tion
–noun
1. the stimulation or manipulation of one's own genitals, esp. to orgasm; sexual self-gratification.
2. the stimulation, by manual or other means exclusive of coitus, of another's genitals
Its clear its masturbation.
I was watching a Jessica Simpson and I got hard. I started goin' and voila!
You can have a dry orgasm at any age, I think.
It's just weirder if you're an adult and you do it.
Kids may not know sex like we do, but of course they can have sexual experiences and can receive pleasure from them. They most likely don't even know what they are doing, like NES Queen explained. They don't know it's "wrong" or "naughty" unless someone tells them it is.
Not every kid has sexual experiences. I never masturbated or had any kind of sexual experience when I was little.
To say that ALL kids do not know self-pleasure would be incorrect. This has been proven.
I used to do it all the time from since I was 10. I even had dry orgasms back then. I was surprised when I first ejaculated anything, even though I knew it would happen eventually. I'm surprised you weren't aware of childhood masturbation.
Back then, even lousy porn worked for me. Now I need the good stuff.
Vampiro speaks the truth.
You got beaten to your post, V, I got beaten to mine. BLAST YOU!
I wish I had dry orgasms.
That's easily granted with a quick operation.
Yeah, you're seriously missing out.