Saddam's Dead

And most people seem happy about it.

Thoughts, oh candid minds of VGC?

none from me except that hes dead finally...

I remain apathetic.

I remain further grim.

After reading John Grisham's The Innocent Man, the death penalty is really bothersome to me. But Saddam was guilty, guilty, guilty and I dare say he deserved this over being handed out to a crowd of Kurds to rip him apart.

I think he was a terrible person who deserved to rot away in prison or be made a public spectacle. But his execution at this time is likely to increase violence among supporters, and to cause Iraqis to question who really handed down the punishment - their own "sovereign" government, or US officials manipulating the Iraqi officials.

I'm not saying he shouldn't have been executed, but now was certainly not the time to do so. I also found this part of his final letter quite astonishing, to come from someone who supposedly is as terrible as he:

"I call on you not to hate because hate does not leave space for a person to be fair and it makes you blind and closes all doors of thinking...I also call on you not to hate the people of the other countries that attacked us and who separated the people from those who govern them"

Surprising, anyway.

I wonder if his neck broke, or if he choked to death. Maybe both?

Didn't care until "BREAKING NEWS" about it interrupted the programme I wanted to watch. Then I was ****ed. Him being alive or dead doesn't make a difference to me.

I was playing Goldeneye. It was not able to interrupt. Nothing can interrupt Goldeneye.

i was thinking about something....could mass chaos break out across the world and if not the US? I know the UK doesnt really care but think about it....they could attack us and mass chaos could break out...its just an idea but it kind of freaks me out

... there are chances of violence within Iraq... but the large majority wanted him dead. So why would they attack the US because of this? wtf?

I wonder if he's Satan's gay lover yet...


oh, and...yay for Iraq!?

It's what Iraq wanted. Good for them...yay.

Lucky bastard.

This makes three rather famous people to die very close together; two terrible leaders and one ***father of Soul.

And besides that I suppose I'll just restate what everyone else has. Saddam's death meant nothing to me.

**** it dude, let's go bowling.

g'nite mother****er, see you in hell .... and thats all i have to say about that.

Big Lebowski reference is the only think this thread has going for it.

Didnt even know that he had been killed until we took a break from wow last night for snacks and someone saw it online.

Goodnight, sweet prince.


Also, video on internets. push tubes, receive hanging.

I heard he asked the US for some sort of pardon. Maybe he could have stabilized Iraq, but I doubt it.

Good riddance.

He was a horrible guy, and definitely deserved to be executed, but I also have to wonder about the timing of this. It seems a little bit too convenient, especially considering Bush is to give a speech in the coming weeks as to the course of the Iraq war. With all the horrible sectarian violence plaguing that place, and a death toll for US Soliders that has surpassed 9/11 (scary isn't it), this kind of diverts attention from all that. I bet he's going to ramble on forever during his speech now about what great progress this will be for the Iraqi people.

But yeah, he definitely deserved this, I just think timing it for political reasons is pretty stupid.

I tried finding a video, but the only one I could find was the non-graphic NBC one.

Hopefully most Iraqis will feel liberated after this.

dude i wanna see the graphic one!

Somebody post a link!

UH OGRISH PEOPLE HELLO

edit: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=863ce7d4a3
yay
k: it's a video of a brown man who just happened to be named saddam hussein getting hanged if you're just some ****ing idiot who doesn't know what this thread is about up to this point









rip :cool:

yeah seen that one already, not really satisfied in terms of goryness

....well it's a fucking hanging, how much gore do you expect

I just wanted to see him dangle a little bit... IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK!!!

I think that the timing is more Iraq oriented than Bush oriented. Don't want him to go to trial over the Kurds, because EVERYBODY hates the Kurds over there.

I don't really know if the cameraman was multi-tasking or what, but how hard could it possibly be to hold a ****ing phone camera steady enough to watch the death of a world renown dictator? It's a once-in-a-lifetime oppurtunity and the only person supposedly smart enough to record it turns out that he lacks the motor skills to hold something steady long enough to actually tell what's going on. ****ing bastards.

He's arab. Dur.

can it really be that saddam is executed?

[quote=Sapphire Rose]I was playing Goldeneye. It was not able to interrupt. Nothing can interrupt Goldeneye.

I ♥ you..


Eh, Saddam wasn't even the real threat. His trial and execution were simply a scapegoat to cover up Bush's great lack of "positive" results in this war. Those videos are all highly debateable, but whatever.. Where was Khan in all of this, anyways.

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Why didn't they ****ing document this properly? I know it's not saying much, but if I were a bastard dictator who was going to hang for my crimes against humanity I'd want it to be publicized. Go out with a *bang* if you will.

yeah from what I understand/have seen there is a higher quality video out there, and it was documented offically by a cameraman for the families of the victims, but they wont play the whole thing in America, which is bull****.... honestly all this censoring is bull****, I think every execution should be shown on TV. If some dude rapes and murders someone, they should fry his *** on public TV so everyone can see the price for **** like that

If there really is a better video out there it's just a matter of time before it's released on the net. Come on, it's pretty much a mathematical fact at this point. It's like vegas or the cops. It's inevitable.

I know its out there cause ive seen it all the way up to right before they dropped his ***, you can find it on youtube, but its only about 1:25 long

they should of let his *** rot in jail. let him suffer for what he did. but we had to kill him in a humane way. sometimes this country is ****ing stupid

I think having one's neck snapped and suffocating to death is a pretty crappy way to go

Well, I guess Saddam wasn't going to be rehabilitated.

Although I do wonder about some stuff. The Iraqis that were interviewed by Fox News seemed terribly ecstatic about the death of Saddam. I was moved by the fervor with which they applauded America's military action that removed Saddam. And rightfully so. Saddam Hussein was a vile, heartless man. He killed anyone, even his own family, if he felt his rule was threatened. He was ruthless and unjust. He was stubborn. He murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people, citizens of his own country. He threatened neighboring countries and was an all around bad guy.

But I'd bet that when he was in control of Iraq, there weren't bombs going off all over the place. I'll bet it was safe to walk around the streets of Baghdad, just as long as you weren't talking all anti-Saddam. Now the people are free to say what they will about Saddam. He's not there to stop them now. But he's also not there to stop thieves, murderers and other criminals.

I'm not too educated on the subject, but I think some groups of people need a strict figurehead to tell them how to live. I think that certain groups of people will abuse freedom if it is given to them. I think that the Iraqis may have needed a guy like Saddam to take their rights away because if they had freedom, they wouldn't use it to seek happiness and prosperity. They'd instead use it to carry out bizzare religious traditions that include violence and bloodshed.

But I do think it's awful that he killed as many innocent people as he did. I think it's awful that he robbed from his own citizens to build his ornate palaces and so forth. I think it's terrible that his songs, Uday and Qusay, were given liscenses to rape or kill anyone in Iraq, if they felt like it. I think it's awful he used chemical weapons on the Kurds, violating international law.

However, I think that the country as a whole was a more secure place when he was in power.

I think that was the baddest idea to kill him. At least let him rot in prison. Yet Sadam did kill many Iraqis, he was the best dictator that they had. Now that he is dead Iraq is out of control. I believe that he ran it straight forward

[quote=x.r0wney.x]I think that was the baddest idea to kill him. At least let him rot in prison. Yet Sadam did kill many Iraqis, he was the best dictator that they had. Now that he is dead Iraq is out of control. I believe that he ran it straight forward
Coming from someone who apparently is unable to formulate a coherent sentence together I simply cannot take your post seriously. Get an education, you stupid ****.

Mr. rowney, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may *** have mercy on your soul.

[quote=x.r0wney.x]I think that was the baddest idea to kill him. At least let him rot in prison. Yet Sadam did kill many Iraqis, he was the best dictator that they had. Now that he is dead Iraq is out of control. I believe that he ran it straight forward

Yeah, he did seem to run Iraq with an iron cock-hold. But, as the self appointed global police, so we had to bring him in and try for his execution. It was only the "right" thing to do.

For those of you ignorant enough to assume Arabs/Iraqis specifically are happy with the execution of Saddam, here:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c3f28b07a2

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8961489e68

I didn't like what he did, but the death penalty is somewhat of the easy way out. Why not subject him to the same thing he to do the people the tortured (allegedly) for so long?

You mean death...?

He had it coming, all great leaders have an end to meet. Beit brutal or with praise. But, we were in the wrong to get involved with any of this mess.
I only stress great in the respect that there are no 'bad' leaders, only misled followers.

I find your Idea of "great leadership" to be seriously skewed. Anyone who thinks that man was a great leader is borderline retarded. Look at what he did to his people. Look at how they were living. Despite what the media is portraying, their quality of life has gone up seince he was taken off the throne. Places have running water and power that never had it before. People have the right to vote that never had it before. And schools are being built and used to educate Iraqi children....All of this was made possible because we "got involved in this mess"

EDIT: Democracy in Iraq = Big ****ing joke.

When do Saddam's Co-defendants get to hang in the gallows, anyways?

this is hilarious. Hig and Sadistic Grin are acting so idiotic for argument's sake, that I can't even try to take anything that they're saying seriously.
SADDAM HUSSEIN WAS A BAD MAN. HE GOT WHAT WAS COMING TO HIM. THE DEATH PENALTY IS NOT PRETTY, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM A GOOD MAN. IF YOU WANT TO MARTYR SOMEONE, CHOOSE SOMEONE WITH A LITTLE BETTER RECORD/MORALS. YOU FAIL AT BEING A HIPPIE. Christ. No bad leaders? Orly? (insert Hitler reference). And Hig, I can turn your stupid argument around on you and say "I appoint my friends to decide whether or not you love the cock. We all decide that you do not love the cock, but based on your wording, I would reply "Hig... ALLEGEDLY doesn't love the cock, but we all know what we conducted wasn't a trial, so it's most likely that he loves the cock. Y'know." Just because the trial wasn't entirely proper (oh yeah, it's probably hard to have a fair trial when the prosecutors keep getting killed too), doesn't mean that he was any less a bad man. Pick another champion, retards. Saddam's dead and I'm tapdancin about it. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070108/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq (in other news, I told you they wouldn't acknowledge the Kurds)

Another trial after the fact of an execution? This whole event has become a circus act.

EDIT: For the record, I am not a hippie, I believe in the matter that there cannot exist a peace without the element of war.

. . . yeah another trial after the execution. Nuremburg happened after Hitler died, because he had generals. What, you think Saddam did all that lootin' and pillagin' by himself?

No BJ, it takes more than just one person to make a mess like that. And as Specs pointed out, I'm retarded, but I am not THAT stupid.. :cool:

Are we allowed to link to ebaums world because they have a video on there of Saddam after his death. He is laying in a casket and you can see where the rope cut into his neck. Pretty gross but probably not enough for the people looking for tons of gore.

[url=http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2007/01/saddam-after-hanging.html]Careful, guys.[/url]

Thank you :) It wouldn't allow me to post the link.

Thats a purtty neck.

His neck is pretty messed up. Though I expected more gouged eyes.

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... Anyway, I just have to ask, where was the hanging done? At the Iraqi Military HQ, or somewhere else? The crowd in attendance didn't appear to show the usual conduct of these sort of executions.