Gamespot are crazy.

Apparantly Freedom Fighters is a better game than Zelda, and James Bond: Everything or Nothing is just as good. lol wut

For those of you who don't know, Gamespot gave Twilight Princess an 8.8.

Reason? Zelda is too much like older games or some s[COLOR=lightgreen]h[/COLOR]it. GEARS OF WAR TOTALLY DESERVES 9.6 FOR THE SAME REASON.

Red Steel got a 5.4 or something. I didn't actually think any decent website would give out such shitty scores or hand over such important reviews to a known Wii doubters, let alone one so "professional" as Gamespot.

I swear, games journalism is fucked up everywhere you look. One one side you have fanboys giving blatently biased reviews, and on the other you have them holding back their opinion for fear of backlash or even apologising for their reviews.

The thing that really ticks me off is that until this very review, TP had a better gamerankings score than Ocarina of Time. It's almost like hype assasination.

Before a bunch of people jump in with "thats just his opinion jeez :C", the fact is that he shouldn't have been given the review in the first place. You wouldn't give someone who hates sports games the new Madden to review, you'd give someone who loves them and can score the game in line with its target audience. Just like 1up handing the review over to a gamer that never even completed Ocarina of Time, Gamespot have used someone totally unsuitable.

Speedfreak going apes[B]hit over reviews, again? Who would've guessed!

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Oh wow, someone was being honest in a game review. So what if it got an 8.8 out of 10? If you noticed, that means it was a GREAT game. In order to deserve a 10 out of 10, it has to be not just great, but REVOLUTIONARY. Twilight Princess has the same **** characters with the same **** weapons and the same **** storyline as every other Zelda game before it. This is not a revolutionary game!

Speedfreak, I can assure you that one less than stellar review will not make this game any less fun.

He's just ****ed that Gears of War got a higher review.

Zelda's story has been the same for nearly the last 2 decades.

Save Hyrule from danger and rescue the princess, with something imbetween, minus a few games that are actually original from this basic storyline

The reason I say the Wii version didn't score above a 9 is because, it's what he just said. It's a port with slapped on controls. Zelda was already done, but they decided to delay it so they can whore it out as Wii's killer App, and it worked, but should that be deserving of 10? It wasn't built from the ground up to be a Wii title, the graphics are just GCN's, and honestly, I could see the game getting perfect scores had it been built up for the wii, but it wasn't.

I'm sure the GCN version will get higher scores.

Gamespot always gives tough reviews, some of the best games from the last gen. only scored high 8s.

I don't know. Do you really think that the reason that Gamespot has been the only site to give Zelda an 8.8 is just because he was being honest? Do you think that all those other sites gave Twilight Princess over a 9 is really because they cracked under the pressure? A lot of people seem to be saying that the gamespot reviewer was bias. Which is wrong, if that's true. This guy was also the one that reviewed Gears of War and how much do you want to bet that he loves shooting games, his xbox 360, and was extremely hyped for Gears of War.

Anyway, this is one IGN has to say about the sam old game thing:

I think that its aload of bull from the statement that its like the Older Games. If that's the cause, Final Fantasy deserve's a mark off for every game made from 1-6 and from 7-12.

And I aslo have to agree with the Reviewer thing you said. I remember someone on GameFaq's writting a Review and getting abuse and later apologising for it. It is an honest opinion, but mainly it's the Fan-boyism from other's that gets to the reviewer.

I still think out of the release titles, TP is equivelently the best launch title and laughed that a Jame's Bond game was possibly being stirred in the direction as better. I don't think they have made a good Jame's Bond game that's great and addictive since Goldeneye, and I'm not talking about the re-make also.

I'm loving the double standards people are showing in this thread.

Boy, I sure am glad I have the sense to realize that the game is going to be a hell of a lot of fun no matter what anyone says about it. Seriously, reviews really don't matter at all when it comes to this game. What, are you worried that people who don't know squat about games aren't going to buy TP now? Oh noes, Nintendo might go bankrupt!

I can understand his frustration. It would be nice if there was a game-review organization that was actually trustworthy.

It's difficult to trust them even as guidelines. It isn't easy to make an opinion without ever playing the game, so sometimes reviews are an excellent source of helping you decide. But not really, since reviews don't usually stop me from getting a game or persuade me into getting a game. I rarely even bother reading reviews, honestly.

WOW, tell me your kidding. ZELDA ISNT OUT YET SO A) You don't know how good or bad it truley is yet. B) Just because it gets a crappy rating doesn't mean it won't be a great game. You may think its the best game you've ever played but it might score 6 or 7 on a scale out of 10.

Who knows but seriously i'm tired of this pre hype crap. You don't know how good or bad Zelda really is or at least not until you try it yourself. Who knows Speedy, you might be disguited with it and the Gamespot guy gave it a break?

Eh anywho I guess i'll find out tomorrow since i'm picking a Wii up with Zelda BOOYAH!

Wait, when did 8.8 become a crappy rating?

I've enjoyed games that received 0.0 scores in some circles like Aidyn Chronicles and Shadowgate 64, and I've hated games that have gotten excellent scores like chrono cross and Final Fantasy 8. As such, I shake my head at those who are unable to enjoy Zelda to its fullest, but pay it no more mind than I would someone passing up tickets to The Transiberian Orchestra to see professional wrestling instead. The world is full of idiots. I take great comfort in the fact that I am not one of them, and move on.

[COLOR="Yellow"]Gamespot must really have something against the Wii to give Red Steel and Zelda those scores. . .*checks most other peoples and critics thoughts on the games*.

Oh wait, nevermind.[/COLOR]

Uh, nobody BUT Gamestop has given it anythign below a 9. Besides, how cna you expect this to have completely new characters? Yes, let's use Tingle instead of Link! Not like anyone has played it yet.

Jeff Gerstmann, reviewed Twilight Princess.

He also reviewed Ocarina of Time and gave it a perfect "10".

And yes, on Gamespot, a ten means "PERFECT".

He also reviewed Majoras Mask and gave IT an 8.3.

So, if you're saying Gamespot just let a totally unsuitable guy review the game, you're ****ing wrong.

Which is why I'm gonna get the GCN version over the Wii version.

There's nothing on the Wii right now that's worth getting. Red Steel didn't interest me from the start, and all these other games I've played them before, just not "played them in a new fashion", but STILL don't interest me.

The only game in that whole launch that I want is basically Metal Slug Anthology, which is a compilation of OLD games I've already played and beaten, and excite truck, and frankly, those titles aren't killer apps and aren't going to have me buy a Wii and 60 dollar controllers for it. At this point in time, Wii looks like the GCN, Twilight Princess is the only title it has going, just like GCN had Smash Brothers, and then months and months of a dead console until something worthwhile comes out.

I'll play the game on the console it was originally built and intended for.

EDIT: I'm sure Zelda is worth a 10, but not for the Wii, for the GCN.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with everything Pit said.

[quote=Vampiro V. Empire]Wait, when did 8.8 become a crappy rating?
For supposedly the best Zelda ever it's a f[COLOR=lightgreen]u[/COLOR]cking crappy rating, what the hell is wrong with you?

I don't believe consoles have different scoring systems, but rather different critics do. This is the same guy that gave THPS3 a 10, despite it basically being 2 with better graphics. He actually has the gall to complain about Zelda being "too much" like other Zeldas when most fans of the series have basically asked for an OoT-killer.

I really dislike scores in general, though. Mostly because it causes crap like this, where the authors forget past scores they've given. And the fact that 0.2 can make a lot of difference depending on what bracket is pushes a game into. 8.8 instead of 9.0 sucks really bad for Zelda, but 9.6 instead of 9.8? Then there's this average review sites like gamerankings, the concept of averaging review scores that aren't even scored on the same scale is a fundamentally broken idea, to me.
Nevermind the fact that reviews are only important to these sites if they're American. NGamers Red Steel review has been completely ignored, despite the fact that the magazine's been running for over 15 years, has gotten a ludicrous amount of exclusives, has actually influenced the development of some of the biggest games ever and that quite a few of the staff have gone on to work for studios like Rare. But no, somehow a little American blog like Joystiq that's only been running for a few years takes precedence.


But really, the main reason I'm p[COLOR=lightgreen]i[/COLOR]ssed off? Smarmy Xbots.

[quote=Aioros][COLOR=Yellow]Gamespot must really have something against the Wii to give Red Steel and Zelda those scores. . .*checks most other peoples and critics thoughts on the games*.

Oh wait, nevermind.[/COLOR]

The average review for Zelda is 96%. If it weren't for Gamespot and 1up, the average review for Red Steel would be in the high 80s. Shut up.

Man, just quit whining about it. You're acting like a retard.

No kidding.

And according to the ratings, it was a 'Great' score. :)

Question that I'm not going to bother making a seperate thread about: If I reserved TP before Nintendo announced the Wii version, and also moved to a new city, would this affect my reservation in any way?

If you pre-ordered Zelda before the Wii version was announced, you pre-ordered the GC version. As for the last bit, it might affect it... call your local store to find out.

I don't think moving would affect your reservation as long as you go to the same store. I've done it before.

I just saw the Red Steel review. What I dont get is that the problems Red Steel supposdaly has, they overlooked when it came to Halo 2. Pah.

I didn't find Halo's dialogue all the bad. Definitely not great, but definitely not painful. Plus, space marines will always be better than weeaboos in my books.

And Halo had awesome voice acting. Master Chief's and the Arbiter's voices are beyond sexy.

Gravemind was better... or grimlock... whatever that ****ing plant thing was called.

Gravemind.

And he was a Flood.

Yeah, I liked Gravemind

http://gstp.ytmnd.com/

[COLOR="Yellow"]IGN's Read Steel review is out. Hmm, looks like the conspiracy to give Wii games low scores goes further than we originally thought. . .[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Yellow"]"I need a weapon".

OMG Master Chief, your one-liners are like so kick azz.[/COLOR]

"Who wants to go to my house for some pie?"

Some marine said that after I rescued him from the Covenant's prison. What the hell?

im gonna see tso tmrw

and im gonna get a wii next week if i can find one

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