So apparantly NGamer has a world-exclusive Red Steel review (my copy hasn't arrived yet). NGamer have also recently started being far stingier with review scores (they hate Golden Sun now), so the fact that Red Steel got ninety friggin' percent should pave the way for a series of positive reviews.
Looks like it's a killer app after all.
They are very harsh with reviews now. Cooking Mama got 54, Mario Slam Basketball got 69, and the new Pokemon got 79 where they say "Asking us to play the same game for the nth time is a bit much."
Promising for Red Steel. Then again they said Call of Duty and the original Far Cry Vengence images were amazing.
Oh and Speedy, your new magazine is here.
I don't know if a 9.0 rating would make it a killer-app. I expect it to score in the 8's on IGN/Gamespot.
[quote=Axis]I don't know if a 9.0 rating would make it a killer-app. I expect it to score in the 8's on IGN/Gamespot.
I don't see how you can say that after their Pok
This is the NGamer review in a nut shell.
The single player isnt the longest FPS around but each level has alot of visual variety. Enviornments looks beautiful with great effects with destrcutible scenery.
It controls well.
"Weapon variety is a bit stingy" but the guns they do have are very good i.e. magnums and shotguns
The multiplayer doesnt give Timesplitters a rund for its money but, with only 4 levels, its good enough. Killer Mode issues each player a specific task via their speaker during a game which provides scenarios.
Not only making excellent use of the Wii's controlers, this is huge fun in its own right. For a launch title to get so much right is an indicator of great things to come
Well I usually hear that magazines over-rate games. Haven't heard anything about NGamer magazine. Anyways, if this is the case, then my hopes for the game have gone up a little bit.
Bebop - Conker was reviewed about 7-8 years ago. Their more recent and current reviews have been pretty spot on for the most part.
[quote=Axis]Well I usually hear that magazines over-rate games.
Yes, from games websites. Sites like IGN like to act like they're the be-all end-all of gaming news and reviews. Fact is magazines get just as much exclusives as they do.
Look at what Halo 2 did, it single handidly destroyed all the Xbox Live titles. I do agree that the 9.8 is a bit high, but I think that it certainly should be at least a 9.5.
Fable is about right too, I would say.
Out of all the reviews that they do, they get them right most of the time.
No they dont. Those 3 games were examples of games they didnt get right. Halo 2 is disgusting, Fable is shocking and Jack and Daxter is headache enducing.
In your opinion... because apparently tons of people absolutely adored those games.
Wait, when did I argue that IGN or the like overrate games?
Oh, and it's nice Red Steel got a nine, good indication at least. But, I'll have to play it before I believe it (oh snap play to believe) because, if I remember correctly, PDZ got pretty high scores from just about everywhere at launch And look how that turned out.
You seemed to be defending his staetment by disagreeing with mine, saying its all down to personal taste. Well schanpp I guess he didnt know that! Either way he was saying IGN and Gamespot dont overrate games. They do.
I didn't say that IGN or Gamespot never overrate games. In fact, on post number 10 I agreed that they overrated Halo 2!
Right so websites overrate games sometimes but moslty get them right, which is fine. but if magazines overrate games sometimes but get them mostly right its bad?
The common view on magazines is that they almost overrate all of their games. OPM does, OXM does, GI does, EGM does, so on and so forth. I was simply stating that I would wait for other sites like IGN or Gamespot to review it. Because most of time, their spot on with their reviews. And as mentioned before, I haven't really heard anything on NGamer. So if they're harsh on games all the time, then so be it.
Buts it just that IGn and Gamespot, especially when it come sto launch titles, rate higher than other sites. Your basically saying to me"Thats a high score but Im going to wait for IGN and gamespot to rate it even higher".
Or "I'll wait for IGN and Gamestop to review so I can get a better picture on how the game turned out." You really have no idea what their score is going to be (likely high eights) but you'll at least get a better idea of what made the game great.
Anyone who buys a game because of one review is almost foolish.
Exactly.
As foolish as critizing a review because of its source, but waiting for more unreliable sources to comment.
[quote=Vampiro V. Empire]Anyone who buys a game because of one review is almost foolish.
Not really. I've read the magazine for over ten years and have always felt they scored titles just right. If anything, their review is the only one that matters.
Anyone who pays attention to critics whom they often disagree with are fools.
I find that amazingly hard to believe considering the differences in scores that you get from just IGN and Gamespot, let alone 1up and GamesRadar.
My point was really that you shuld just listen to the critics that really matter to you, not the average of every review. Be that a few critics or just one.
Luckily they're all usually in the same boat and only differing by a couple points. Then again I'm not paying attention to the final score because that factors in things I might not even care about.
But, wait, no. I'm actually lying to make what I said more convincing and fall in line with everything else I said. Even though I have nothing to prove, nor consider this an argument that can be won. So never mind.
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Yeah I was pretty much just contesting "Anyone who buys a game because of one review is almost foolish."
[QUOTE=Vampiro V. Empire]I haven't criticized anyone or anything in this thread, but OK :cookie: Also, I generally find both Gamestop and IGN to be fairly reliable if you have some general knowledge on the game beforehand. That combined with this magazine who's also fairly reliable sounds like a petty good combination. I just find it odd to ultimately trust my sixty dollars to the opinion of one source.
It wasnt aimed at you :cookie:
Everything that Vamp has said, pretty much. :cookie:
I buy 90% of my games based off of zero reviews. If you're already very interested in a game and you've been following it, one review's usually plenty to seal the deal, sometimes isn't even necessary. It's not like we haven't seen a ton on Red Steel so far, I'm getting it regardless of what any review says.
Fable pretty much won everyone over. It wasn't until two weeks past launch everyone thought "oh wait, this **** sucks." Wait, actually, Fable WAS a solid eight. There's no arguing that. It was a good to great game, but it was hyped as a high nine or ten game. And I believe that's what both gave Fable (8) or close to.
Anywho, I also wouldn't say both are "launch happy," though they certainly got PDZ completely wrong. The rest were spot on or close (in terms of the 360 launch.) But that's also my opinion.
Anywho, Soul has point. When it comes to games like Red Steel, chances are you won't need a review or even multiple reviews. Though, I might. Then again I'm far from sold. But people really do seem to love the game, and this review just furthers that.
Edit: Wait, IGN game Fable a 9.3. It's so not a 9.3...
We should all agree that review scores are ridiculous. Read the words and remember that it's someone else's opinion, and then go and decide for yourself.
Also, Fable was bollocks and Molyneux is a hack who's still riding on the success of Black and White.
yeah, I didn't read any of the posts except the first few, and then scrolled down and managed to catch 'Fable 2' somewhere in the scrolling.
I thought Fable was a good game. Thing is for me, I didn't get caught in any of the hype at all. I heard about the game about 5 months before it came out. So I didn't hear all the mumbo jumbo PM had to say about the game. This time around though I'm going to take everything with a grain of salt. Only way I'll believe what the man says is when gaming sites get their hands on the game and can confirm it. Fable for me was about a 8.5.
I picked it up a few weeks ago, and had heard next to nothing about it either. It SUCKED.