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Videos of Wii make it look so fun! Everytime I watch a video of people playing Wii, I always have a fee|ing that I am watching a fun party that I wasn't invited to. :(
YES! Now I'll definitely get four sets of controllers.
I hope I don't look that stupid when I start playing :)
I had no idea what the hell was going on :cool:
There are times when my sister gets so intensely drown into a game that she is amusing to watch. She often swings the regular controller and tried to peak around corners using her actual head. I can't wait to watch her play using the Wiimote.
The girl is a wicked screen-watcher! THAT'S LIKE CHEATING!
I consider being able to watch four different screen as talent, not cheating. I'm a constant screen-watcher while playing Goldeneye. I keep tabs on where everyone is and try to get them all before they find each other in order to take in as many points as possible. It used to be difficult to keep things organized, but now it's just a regular thing I barely realize I do.
The radar works in certain occasions, but nothing will reveal their exact location like glancing at their screens and figuring out where they are going. I would probably be scared if I played the game online, because I would have to alter my playing methods and become more defensive.
Too hard to see what was going on. I need a better video so I can see if the multiplayer will be even worth it.
I hope the aiming on the screen is ok with it split in four or that you and your friends dont go Gung Ho and kill each other.
That karate kick was so pathetic.
But 4 player looks mad fun.
YES! SPLIT SCREEN, THIS IS THE FUTURE!
Still doesn't sell me on the game, especially since I couldn't even see what they were doing half of the time.
About time they showed some multi action. Too bad the people playing were spastics.
[quote=Vamp]Still doesn't sell me on the game, especially since I couldn't even see what they were doing half of the time.
Well you see everyone has a portion of the screen and must kill the other players using the controller.
WE DON'T CARE HOW THE PLAYERS LOOK WHILE PLAYING THEIR GAMES, NINTENDO
I really like how they use the speaker to tell the target who they are.
I'm wondering why people are b[COLOR="Lime"]i[/COLOR]tching about that too. How else would you expect them to go about doing a multiplayer match?
The main map in Goldeneye that gave me trouble was the Archives. If I was in that lower area I could find my way out, but I could never find my way in again :)
System link.
Hopefully there is a wireless system link for Red Steel. I think split screen takes away from the game, since it becomes impossible to sneak up on people or snipe them.
Yeah, wireless system link would be fine by me. Then again, I probably won't buy the game anyways... so...
Haha. I used to do that with Tecmo Bowl (NES). Only instead of watching the screen, you would have to sneak a peak at what they pushed on the controller.
that was sick
i lol'd when that guy tried to hide behind the chair or table or w/e that was
Online play would be a good addition but Im happy with split screen though. As soon as I get my console and extra controller sets Im having a Wii fest with my friends so its not something I crave straight away.
[quote=Vampiro V. Empire]Not playing FPS together in real life or system link. Both work pretty **** well as far as I'm concerned.
Also, it's the fact that it's not online when it can be online. That and being split-screen.
1) Who said no system link?
2) If it could be online it would be. You haven't noticed that there's not a single online Wii game other than Pok
System link was only bad with Gamecube because there was one game that could do it. I could never hope to count the amount of times I system linked Halo, the game would be terrible without it. Hell, I 1v1'd my brother in separate rooms on system link as well as more LANs than I care to remember.
NEVER SPEAK ILL OF SYSTEM LINK AGAIN
Other than the fact that hardly anyone uses it, you mean?
It'll be commonplace when online games start coming out, anyway.
Hardly anyone? Halo LANs were huge, man.
XBC and Kai, too...
[quote=s0ul]Hardly anyone? Halo LANs were huge, man.
With you and your twelve friends. I can't count the number of times hardcore gamers have utterly failed to grasp the concept that they are in the extreme minority.
And you also think that casual gamers are going to be buying 4 Wiimotes and nunchucks to play split screen with their 3 friends that don't really like video games either?
Patches!
Did someon notice something funny? That the people playing keep pressing down on the joystick on the nunchuck like it is a button? It looks odd if you notice it.
It does look like it, but they're just flicking it back and forth. When they were being filmed, they weren't actually playing the game.
[quote=s0ul]And you also think that casual gamers are going to be buying 4 Wiimotes and nunchucks to play split screen with their 3 friends that don't really like video games either?
Casual gamers like games and play multiplayer, you're thinking of non-gamers. Casual gamers are the reason games sell anything above 3 million, the vast majority of Xbox owners didn't even know how to set up system link, let alone did it on a regular basis. A staggering 85% of Xbox owners never took their Xbox online, realise this.
[quote=Vampiro V. Empire]Ah, right. I forgot when I said Wii launch titles were all online, so this one should be to. Rather than the Wii being capable of online games, yet Red Steel isn't. Right, silly me.
If they had to delay the game, which they wouldn't, to get it online, that would make me pretty happy. Online is big, the Wii is capable of it, Red Steel is a perfect game to debut Wii online, just like Mario Kart was for the DS.
So I guess, in the end, I wasn't wrong? You just read it as it wasn't intended. Heh.
You said Wii is capable of online play. This is wrong, it currently isn't. If it was, Red Steel would be online. Pokémon is a net infrastructure test. Once that test is complete then there will be more online games. Oh look, online games planned for Q1 and Q2 2007. Funny, that.
Mario Kart did not launch with DS, Mario Kart wasn't even intended as an online game originally. DS, however, was intended as an online handheld, despite not being online from the start.
[quote=Vampiro V. Empire]The Wii is capable of online :rolleyes:
Developers cannot make online Wii games for launch, they aren't being given the networking libraries. As a launch title Red Steel cannot go online, and the developers would have liked to impliment it.
Your point was that Red Steel can go online, and because it can it should. This is wrong.
I don't see why you make it out to be such a big deal anyway, it's not like you've ever actually been geniunely interested in the game.
I hope they have a DS-esque LAN capability in Red Steel. I already know Wii has that and that games like Battalion Wars 2 and Mario Strikers 2 can connect through that (GDC), but I wonder if Red Steel can.
No matter how much fun these actors are having, laughing and jumping out of their seats and peeking around the couch, it will never be enough to get me excited about split screen deathmatch.
no to mention the extra near $200 needed to spend on controllers, to play ****ing multiplayer deathmatch.
and honestly, those character models look like ABSOLUTE SHIT
Any word on what the first online Wii game will be?
As said a couple times in this thread, pokemon.
I remember reading somewhere that online games wouldn't be arriving until a Pokemon game came out, but I wasn't sure if they meant that it would be the first.
Isn't that Pokemon game set to be released in April? That seems like a long time to wait for online play. Won't Smash Bros be out before it?
Pokemon will be in Japan. Out here, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being Smash.
[quote=Vampiro V. Empire] What am saying is that the Wii is capable of going online. I realise developers can't get the tools to bring their games online, hence me saying "if they had to delayed the game..." to get it online. Oh man, way to assume and miss a point I made blatantly clear :rolleyes:
Either way, I didn't take into account what Wings said. If they could push online through Wiiconnect later in '07 then that's pretty cool.
Red Steel cannot be anything other than a launch title, launch titles cannot be online. Whatever way you look at it, the game cannot be online and there's nothing that Ubisoft Paris can do about it.
Patching is a possibility, but I don't think it's a particularly likely one.
[quote=Vampiro V. Empire]idk, you seem to think it's a bigger deal than me, otherwise you wouldn't bother arguing it. It's not a big deal at all since, as I said, I'm probably not even going to buy it. I'm just stating my opinion.
I think multiplayer on a cool game is a big deal, yes. A lack of online play on a game you already couldn't care less about isn't a big deal. It would follow that the news is more important to me than it would be to you.
I will ask again, why is this such a big deal to you?
I didn't think Smash was 100% confirmed yet...
Anyone know if Red Steel will have System Link?
Also, system link works just like the DS, right? No need for any complications, just connect wirelessly?
Last I remember the developers were really hopping to put it in, but weren't sure if they could. That was just after E3 though, and I haven't been paying attention since.
Still, you know there's going to online. There has to be.
JESUS POTATOMAN SHUT UP
Why the hell can't Red Steel have a small aiming box and a large aiming box option? Anyhow, the multiplayer looks goldeneye-esque, so it should be pretty great.
Man, I can't believe Red Steel scored higher than Excite Truck in EGM. But EGM is garbo, so who knows.
I don't understand all the negative press Red Steel has been getting from the general populous.
It doesn't look as good as Gears of War and doesn't play exactly like another game, like Gears of War; therefore it sucks.
I haven't played either games, but seeing as they have, don't you think you can reach the conclusion that Gears of War could just play better? I don't think they're singling out Nintendo.
[url=http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2005/12/egm-magazine-frightened-and-confused.html]EGM also gave Animal Crossing Wild World a lower score than the GC original, despite it being better in every single possible way. EGM fail much?[/url]
Serioulsy I don't think I could ever give a game a perfect 10. The only review group that hasnt awarded a game a perfect ten that I can think of is N64 magazine (which renamed NGC and now is known as NGamer). Ocarina of Time got 98%
EGM and 1up pretty much always underrate Nintendo games, as far as I can tell. I'm not suggesting something, but apparantly they're both owned by the same company.
In all likelyhood, Gears is probably the better game considering the experimental nature of Red Steel, but that still doesn't mean they're not both underrated and overrated respectively. Giving Red Steel a five is criminal, and Gears of War isn't perfect. Any idiot can detect some bias here.
EDIT: Come to think of it, given my readership maybe I'm placing too much importance on the perfect score. Super Play-NGamer NEVER handed out perfect scores, but maybe 10/10 is a more common sight in 1up and EGM. I never really thought 10 points was enough to go really in-depth with a game review, it could just be that 10/10 can both mean "brilliant" and "perfect" considering the low accuracy. Nevertheless, Red Steel was underrated by EGM, and Zelda sure as hell better get tens too.
Well... I do think a 5 is pretty low. Maybe it wasn't his cup of tea. :(
I think the Gears of War reviews posted are fake. I've been trying to find the scores for it, but apparently the reviews are in the January issue. If the scores were released to the public, it would make the magazine obsolete, wouldn't it?
Well obviously not if it's a five. But Christ even a Nintendo hater can realize Animal Crossing WW is better than the GC version. I question whether they are biased or just idiots sometimes.
Kotaku has them posted, and they're usually very reliable.
The reasoning I've seen for 10/10 or 100% scores is that if a game offers the best playable experience at the time, then it's worthy of the score. What tends to happen is that games are given a default score of 100, and then points are taken away for things.
I hate scores of 10. Its never a number in between. its either one whole number or another, making all the difference. There are so many 10/10 games awarded by officaly PS magazine that its a joke.
Any game could be seen as the best playable experience at that time. Thats why its flawed. That would be liek awarding a DS game a perfect score not on the basis of how good a game it is, but on the basis that it is the first good game after a game drought, or compared to other games. Too often perfect scores are awarded on the grounds of how other games stand up, rather than how well it plays. Its like saying "this game is better than Game X so lets give it 10" rather than "this game is lots of fun but lacks a bit. lets give it 6."
No, that's not what I meant. I meant that it gives the best game experience on the console so far. Obviously games have to be compared to others.
It's something I read a while back in defence to someone saying 'You gave OoT a 9.5 but I played it recently and it's rubbish compared to Game X on the 360!'
EGM is garbo. Halo 2 didn't deserve straight tens, and neither does gears of war, even though they are good games.
And yeah, I hate it when EGM compares one game to another; they said Yoshi's Island 2 was BAD because it was TOO SIMILAR to the first one (which I would think would be a good thing, considering the first one is amazing). THEN they said that it was BAD because it wasn't similiar ENOUGH to the first one, and had some new gimmicks they didn't like. So stupid.
Yeah. Look at Zelda - the whole thing that makes it great is that they don't change it too much.
Hold on, EGM gave Halo 2 a perfect ten and Animal Crossing Wild World a lower score than the GC game? I think it's fair to say EGM don't know anything about games.
That said I'm still interested in playing Gears.
VGM Daily gave Gears a glowing review. Hm.
I'll let you all know what I think after I play it this weekend.
Played it, it's as good as everyone says. Though getting perfect tens is actually quite laughable. OoT is a 10. GoW is not. Definitely close though, as there's so very, very little to complain about.
Anywho, EGM is garbage. 1up seems to be quite reliable, but I don't bother with EGM for a reason.
Arent 1up and EGM under the same parent company?
Yes, they are. And as I've stated many times before, Gears of War is NOT a perfect 10. But pretty **** close. I just find it ludicrous that people are making such a big deal about it.
No, I probably wouldn't be surprised. It's just that I use 1up from time to time and almost always agree. Unlike with EGM where I find myself wondering "wtf."
Why the hell is ubisoft so stubborn? Why didn't they put in more controller options instead of being retarded??
Why couldn't they have stuck with this?? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7888968777839133832&q=red+steel&hl=en