UFC and Pride fighting is basically the ultimate fighting sport. They are hardly any rules and you are allowed to use any fighting style you want. It is way more violent than boxing, and its real so it makes WWE look even more pathetic than it already is (if thats possible). Me and alot of my buddies at work are really into it, and we spend alot of our free time training at the base GYM. Im curious as to how many of you have heard of it, think its stupid, think its cool, or think its something they would be interested in watching. If youve never seen it before I suggest you check out this short highlight video and tell me what you think [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2YoqJcT9o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2YoqJcT9o[/URL]
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I watch it whenever I can catch it. Not anywhere close to being obsessed, but it's pretty cool and fun to watch with a couple of my friends who are really into it. Pretty brutal stuff though, which I guess is why it's as exciting as it is.
I choose the fourth option. I've never seen it before, and I dont wanna see it again.
...wait, what?
The first ten seconds of a round are pretty **** cool, the following 4 minutes of dry humping on the ground usually range from very boring to somewhat erotic.
I am not a huge fan of UFC. It's good though. I have watched a few times. I couldn't tell you any of the fighters names though. I hate it when ametuers fight. It's more of a hug-fest when they do. The veterans are usually pretty fun to watch. I turned it on the other day, and this one guy was getting the holy hell beat out of him. Blood everywhere. It was sweet.
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I like to watch the lighterweight guys fight. More hitting, less grappling. But yeah, its ****ing awesome, though I refuse to chose option one, since i hate hte word "hella".
Real martial artists don't fight for entertainment.
Thats why I study Mixed martail Arts. Because it is used more than any other of the fight arts. Grappling trapping and sense destrution are the key to winning a fight.
Or, ya know, just pulling a gun from a good distance. I hear that works well too.
I'm not a fan of it. I'll watch it if nothing else is on, but my brother is more into it then I am.
You two really are a pair of cocky little shits. Don't fucking tell me I've never been in a fight. I used to fight all tne fucking time. It's childish and ridiculously dangerous. And the more capable a martial artist you are, the more dangerous it is.
Martial arts isn't just about knowing how to kick someone's ass. It's about self-discipline, knowing that you should only fight when it is absolutely crucial, two things you've demonstrated a total lack of respect for. Martial arts were developed for the sole purpose of self-defence and only adapted for offensive purposes. A martial artist that can't learn to control himself very quickly becomes a dead martial artist. In my opinion, prize-fighting is an absolute mockery of that.
[quote=Draxamus]Been in a few schoolyard rumbles have we? Doesn't mean you know anything about what techniques are most effective, and what styles best prepare you for actual fights. If you limit your martial arts to only when you're in a life-or-death situation, you'll find yourself unprepared when one actually happens. You need to be in constant practice at close to 100%. In training of course you aren't going to fight as hard as you would in a real situation, but you should be able to fight close to it. And those who fight in competitions are probably the most prepared of all.
It seems you are the one who knows little about actual fighting.
First, you said I've probably never been in a fight. An evidently ignorant statement, well done.
Fighting in competitions and sporting events will only prepare you physically for a fight, that is to say develop your muscles and let you practise your techniques on a moving target. All things you can do in training anyway, so it might aswell be another training exercise.
When you enter a competition your intent is not to seriously damage your opponent, it's to score points. In fact, you're usually not even trying to hit them very hard, just very accurately. In sporting events you are competing in a measured, mediated environment. You have nothing to fear in a boxing match if you're knocked to the ground, for instance.
You gain zero mental preperation in these events for a life or death situation. A situation where your opponent can literally do anything, your adrenaline is pumping harder than in any "civilised" fight and your mind has made you walk a tightrope with "fight" and "run" on either side. A real martial artist who has trained their entire life in every single aspect of the art, not just physical, can come out of a situation like that unscathed. Someone who's just earnt a black belt and has never had to fight for their life before should come out with a few cuts and bruises and a bit of shock.
[quote=Draxamus]I don't see why one should limit his use of martial arts to only cases of self defense. I'm not saying go out and snap the neck of anyone who looks at you funny. But if someone steps up to you, I see nothing wrong with kicking his ass.
Promoting violence when it can be extremely easily avoided is generally seen in civilised cultures as a bad thing to do. I can't see any reason beyond a threat on your or someone elses life or theft or damaging of your belongings to commit a violent act. There are other, much more manly and dignified ways of dealing with situations.
For instance, here's a classic example: someone insults your girlfriend. A lot of guy's instincts are to smack the guy into next week, mine included. A better way of dealing with it would be to simply ask him what the hell his problem is and demand an apology. You've asserted your position and not let him push you around by countering his words with yours. If he tries to start a fight then you simply state that dont wish to fight and that you just want an apology, but you will defend yourself if you have to. If the situation does get violent then you still don't need to act offensively, there are many ways of incapacitating an opponent without significant harm being brought upon him or you, such as locks and sweeps. If the worst comes to the worst, you've defended your girl's honour without being a barbarian about it, no significant harm has come to anyone and yet your total dominance is clear for everyone to see. A Perfect result.
Obviously that's not always possible depending on your level of skill, but limiting harm to yourself and others should always be your goal as a real martial artist.
[quote=Draxamus]And you're wrong about all martial arts being created solely for self-defense. Many were first used on the battlefield--Japanese jiu jitsu for instance.
And self-discipline, well I can already attain that without martial arts!
Martial arts originated as self-defence for buddhist monks, to protect themselves and their temples from raiders. You're not gonna tell me those monks can't kick some serious a[COLOR=lightgreen]s[/COLOR]s, but you're not gonna tell me they're not pacifists, either.
Armies are also created for the defence of a nation, though they are often misused by the corrupt. I'm not putting much behind this point because I don't know Japan's reasons for invading other countries, and Japan developed numerous martial arts.
Self-disipline can be achieved in a variety of ways, but if you don't feel that commiting violent acts is something that should be avoided at all costs then you clearly lack it.
Full contact training is the most effective way to train--any other way is subpar. Doing drills--practicing the motions--won't get you anywhere. That fight or flight response is exactly the trigger that will cause you to abandon all of your training in favor of a few sloppy hooks. Training in a full contact environment prepares you to handle that rush like nothing else can; and an MMA competition is the closest one can come to an actual fight. MMA fighters aren't just going for points, and they aren't safe just because they fall. Now a sport like boxing may be less effective than MMA. But remove the gloves, and those boxers can hit! The big gloves in boxing diminish the impact, but you can trust that the punches being thrown are not weak. You pit a trained boxer against some chump, and that trained boxer will dismantle his ass.
I find it hilarious that you think some black belt with no real training against an opponent working against him will do well in a street fight. I find it even more humorous that you claim compeitions and full contact training are nothing but muscle work. The only proper way to train is to fight against an opponent who is trying to resist you--whether in full contact training or a competition. And you're all about defending yourself; well that's the right way to learn how. Full contact training happens in a controlled environment, as do compeitions. You may risk getting a little hurt, but the benefits in practical self-defense you'd gain would far outweigh the meager benefits you'd gain training any other way.
As for your buddhist monk argument, well I think you've been watching too many kung fu movies! All martial arts did not originate out of kung fu. Now I don't know anything about these theoretical monks of the past. Maybe they knew how to kick ass, and maybe they didn't. What I do know is that the modern incarnation of kung fu is far too flawed to be useful when compared to certain other martial arts. It is for example sorely lacking in defense against BJJ techniques. If you want to be an effective striker, Muay Thai is a much more practical martial art. You take that, learn how to sprawl, and then you'll be ay ahead of any kung fu practitioner.
Now the rest is just a splitting of ethics. You think one should avoid all fighting when possible. I think if you have a reason to kick someone's ass, you should go for it!
Yeah I second drax... The reason we question weather or not youve been in a fight freak, is because people who know Martial Arts know that everything changes when it goes down for real. An actual fight happens sooo much faster than training, you have barely anytime to think. Training is good because it builds muscle memory, but thats its. To become proficient in any martial art you have to apply it at fullspeed.
I loce watching MMA matches because you get to see firsthand what a real fight looks like when both the fighters are proficient martial artists. None of this staged kung fu movie bull****. I mean dont get me wrong i enjoy a good kung fu movie, but it just doesnt go down that way in real life.
All martial artists Know or should know that force/fighting should be the last resort. Killing someone is hard on a person even in self-defence. I'm not saying for someone to go aroung and kick ***, What I'm taught as well as most martail artists defence should not end in taking a persons life, Only to which you can get away from the person who is trying to engage you.
P.S. It does feel better to kick someones *** though...right:)
Youd be surprised how easy it is to end someones life... but yeah in most situations your not gonna beat some drunk guy at the bar to death because he challenges you to a death match over a game of pool gone wrong haha.
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I love the UFC. Once in socials. Me and 4 friends starting a mini tournamanet because our teacher was in teh library the whole class.