Listen, all ye heathens:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/594/594834p1.html
"...we believe a stronger CPU and a great graphics card is just the price of entry."
Somewhat encouraging words for those who fear Revolution will be less powerful than sony or Microsoft's machines. If a stronger CPU and graphics card are the price of entry, logically Nintendo would be ready to pay such a price.
Yay! Mario 128 to be shown at E3! Yayness!
Being weaker than the rest doesn't mean having GC graphics, dork.
Indeed. I've already expressed my hope and expectation that the Revolution will have GAMECUBE controller ports enabling 3rd-party support for more traditional games, and since the system has recently been revealed to be backwards-compatible with GAMECUBE games, this is a sure-thing. Powerful technology will allow for no excuses.
I don't disagree, I'm just wondering where the hell you got the idea that at any point Nintendo were thinking of having the power of a GC in their next system.
It looks like you're assuming that having an ultra-powerful machine is a must for Nintendo. They could quite conceivably go for the weaker, cheaper option to save on cost and put all their money into innovative features whilst still having the power of a next-generation console.
It wasn't out of the question that Nintendo would make a system that wasn't as powerful as the other machines. Power relation like the Dreamcast, PS2 and GameCube, Revolution being the Dreamcast. They'd all be so powerful it wouldn't really matter. Coupled with their comments on graphics not mattering any more, it led many to believe that they wouldn't make a system on par with PS3 or Xenon, but rather something slightly weaker with more innovation. That's where the surprise is.
I always figured that comment meant they will still have onpar graphics and power, it's just not a big concern right now. So it wasn't a surprise for me. I guess I just took it differently than most.
[quote=The Dictionary]Power: The ability to perform effectively
That being said, I would like to clear things up. In this thread many of the posts have used the word 'power' to describe the graphics a system has. This is not the case, if they can both run effectively, then I don't see why power should be used to describe the capabilities of a next-gen system. According to this definition, then the NES has just as much power as an XBOX.
The word "effectively" changes as each new generation passes. What was effective ten years ago is not effective these days. Since todays stadards for power has increased since the days of the NES, those graphics are no longer effective.
Also, skimming through all the posts, I don't see anyone refer to power as the type of graphics. Most say power as what the console is capable of. Which in turn means better graphics,
[quote]I don't see anyone refer to power as the type of graphics. Most say power as what the console is capable of. Which in turn means better graphics.
Isn't that contradictory of yourself?
The word effective, for a system to me, means that I can play the game and enjoy it, without lag.
[quote=Vamp]"wow, those graphics are powerful!".
Since you and Speedy were the only ones posting in the thread, I would not accuse you guys of putting like a newb.
But after your post where you said some people like pretty graphics, I took it that graphics were the main issue when discussing a powerful machine. My machine.
[quote=Vamp]You try working in a game store and not hear a thirteen year old complain.
*raises hand* Thirteen year old!
The only time I have every complained about graphics in a game with great gameplay is with Windwaker, and only because I thought that a more realistic look would have been better than cell-shading. Not to say that they were bad graphics at all.
For instance, Mrs. Pacman. The graphics aren't exactly spectacular, but it still remains as onee of my favorite games. My others are almost all GBA games. Which do not have the graphical capabilities of console games.
I didn't say all, but there are a ton who say it. It's what first attracts kids to a game. I see it constantly and it does get annoying. *Shrugs*
What first attracts me to a game, is if it was a sequel to a game that I truly found amazing. Like if they made another Golden Sun, I'd buy it in a heartbeat even if it had worse graphics than Pong.
I always get tingly when reggie talks. He's the kind of guy who gives answers that dont beat around the bush and dont leave much "maybe" to deal with.
And now we know that new graphics and better cpu is just the tip of the iceburg.
"With IBM, we are creating Revolution's core processor, which we have codenamed Broadway because Broadway is the capital of live entertainment. With ATI, we are developing the graphics chipset, codenamed Hollywood because Hollywood is the capital of movie entertainment."
This could well hint that Revolution will be the most powerful of all the three. Nintendo use little hints like these a lot.
We all know this now, this is a really old thread.
Not only that, but he's wrong. It has 4 controller ports.
yeah, you're right