Beating women :)




Posted by Bebop

What's your view on the act and the men/women who do it?

Well I dont do it. But if a women hit me I dont follow that bogus rule of "you cant hit girls!!1!!1!". I would deliver equal force if I saw it fit. Especially if the women hit me unprovoked, like many a happy slapping chavette.

From my vast experince of beating women, children and the disabled it seems unprovoked attack from females on males arent seen as negatively as a provoked, or even justified attack, from a male onto a female.




Posted by Arcadios

Well some woman activist keep talking crap about equal rights as men but I'd treat them like any other human and hit them back.




Posted by Noir

I just plain don't believe men should hit women, period. If it was a life or death situation (as in a violent struggle), maybe, but unless the lady is 400 pounds and 6'1" and/or armed with a weapon, there should'nt be much of a problem there.




Posted by Fei-on Castor

I've never hit my girlfriend, but she has tried to get me to do it. She has provoked me and shouted at me to hit her, so I pushed her away from me.

I don't think it's necessary, ever. I think there is always a better solution than violence, when it comes to personal relationships.




Posted by mis0

I don't think violence should be relative to gender, but rather, situation. I should completely expect to get hit if I go around hitting others first. It's only logical, and fair, I suppose.




Posted by Arcadios

Like Miso said it depends on the situation.
If I was being attacked and yelled at by a woman I would probably try to resist since my morals wouldn't allow me to hit her but then I would only be pushed so far that I would act on impusle and strike back.




Posted by Lord of Spam

I dont think its right to hit people who are obviously weaker than you, or who cannot defend themselves. If they happen to have a vagina, then fine, they dont get hit. The one exception is in self defense, but here again, I would go with the minimum force required. If a group of female chavs come up to me and start slapping me, I'll just push them away. If one takes out a knife, ***** is gonna lose some teeth.




Posted by Iris

I agree with LoS. If a toddler starts gnawing at your hand for whatever reason, are you going to pop him in the face as hard as you can? If the person's much weaker than you, you ought to use less force. Maybe shoving some one away or something of the sort is more necessary than dropkicking your wife for slapping you across the face.

Sadly, a lot of people will hit back, regardless of whether or not they provoked the person and deserved it. Domestic abuse really isn't funny.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: unless the lady is 400 pounds and 6'1" and/or armed with a weapon, there should'nt be much of a problem there.


Fun Fact: Women can't be strong. Every single one of them is weak and unable to defend themselves in any way, shape, or form.



Posted by Raptor


Quoting Iris: If a toddler starts gnawing at your hand for whatever reason, are you going to pop him in the face as hard as you can?


Absolutely. It would be a purely instinctual reaction, and I couldn't help it even if I wanted to. But I wouldn't care to help it because I hate toddlers. It would probably never happen though because I never let them get within 12 feet of me.

Any human being who hits me with the intent of causing injury or provocation gets hits back with equal force, be them man, woman, or midget. Women, especially, don't deserve special treatment.



Posted by Bj Blaskowitz

at least raptor's consistent




Posted by theblobishere92

I think Woman often use hitting as a way to flirt... my ex did that alot.. which was annoying, having bruises... but just becuase they don't have the testosterone, and aren't has strong as some, or most men, doesn't mean they're much diffurent... they're still humans...




Posted by Lord of Spam

[quote=Iris]I agree with LoS.

Whoa, what the hell was that?

[quote=Master of All Things Factual]Fun Fact: Women can't be strong. Every single one of them is weak and unable to defend themselves in any way, shape, or form.

Like tiny little kittens really, only sometimes you want to kill them.


Quoting Raptor: Absolutely. It would be a purely instinctual reaction, and I couldn't help it even if I wanted to. But I wouldn't care to help it because I hate toddlers. It would probably never happen though because I never let them get within 12 feet of me.

Any human being who hits me with the intent of causing injury or provocation gets hits back with equal force, be them man, woman, or midget. Women, especially, don't deserve special treatment.


Being able to control insticts is what makes humans better than animals:cookie:



Posted by XeroPercent

Man who hits women = Man with small penis




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

watch more porn.




Posted by The Judge

I'm sure this has been said so far, but I haven't read the thread:

Only in self-defense, at which point I'll just subdue her, not knock her out (unless that's what it takes). I don't think men should ever hit women (Unless, you know, they're really tough women, like those iron maidens int he muscle shows, but who marries one of them anyways?).




Posted by Lord of Spam

Thats why stick with my system. It lets you smack the hell out of girls if they can fight back, while at the same time protecting the ones that need it.




Posted by Kodachi

I'm on the "it shouldn't be ok to hit, regardless of gender" boat. Self-defense is a different matter, but whoever initiates the fighting should get the punishment, regardless of gender. It's the other path of equality that so many people seem to forget. Most people go towards "OMG IF DEY WANT EQUALITY DEN I SHOOD HIT WOMEN" at first.




Posted by Dreadnought

[quote=Iris]I agree with LoS. If a toddler starts gnawing at your hand for whatever reason, are you going to pop him in the face as hard as you can?

Are you joking? Of course I would. I hate children.

Beating women is for the weak (OLL SEAN FURY!!!!!1).




Posted by sniper

If they were aware of what they were doing and defense was necessary, I would hit anyone.




Posted by Iris

Actually, it really shouldn't matter the gender. If you need to defend yourself, you should at least have enough self control to keep from severely injuring some one if they don't pose a large threat.




Posted by Eggroll


Quoting Vampiro: Fun Fact: Women can't be strong. Every single one of them is weak and unable to defend themselves in any way, shape, or form.

fun fact: some men are weaker than some women



Posted by The Judge

Funfact: You are not a strong woman.




Posted by Killer Jordo

If a woman hit me, I wouldn't hit back. I'd just shove her away.




Posted by Philsdad

Guys, it's never okay to hit women, because they're weaker than you! Unless of course they want to join the military, police force or become a fire fighter, THEN they are just as equal and capable as you. But even then, it's still not okay to hit them! So don't hit them ever, under any circumstance. [COLOR="DimGray"]Double standards suck..[/COLOR]




Posted by Bebop

See this is what I don't get, the whole "you cant hit them cos they are weaker". I remember when I was little girls would sometimes hit boys and say "you cant hit back because we're girls". If a girl hits you first this silly little rule shouldnt stop you giving her equal force.




Posted by Ayu

I agree that no matter what gender someone is you shouldn't hit them, but if self-defense is necasary it's a different story. I also don't think it's right to hit someone weaker or defensless. It's just not right. If provoked, I would just push them back, and walk away.

[Quote=Vampiro]Fun Fact: Women can't be strong. Every single one of them is weak and unable to defend themselves in any way, shape, or form.
I believe that women can be just as strong as men.
[Quote=Bebop]little girls would sometimes hit boys and say "you cant hit back because we're girls". If a girl hits you first this silly little rule shouldnt stop you giving her equal force.
I agree that if hit first, that person should be able to hit with equal force, but I'm against uneeded violence.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: fun fact: some men are weaker than some women


Quoted post: I believe that women can be just as strong as men.


That was exactly my point. I was just mocking the person I quoted because it was so stupid.



Posted by Raptor


Quoting Sanaxis: If provoked, i would just push them back, and walk away.



Try this maneuver on some deranged bitch throwing table lamps and toasters at you, and see how long your head remains intact when you start walking away.



Posted by Last Fog

The whole "women are weaker" argument is stupid. That's no reason to not hit a woman. With that logic, if another man who's weaker starts beating up on you you're supposed to take it?




Posted by Ayu

[Quote=Raptor]Try this maneuver on some deranged ***** throwing table lamps and toasters at you, and see how long your head remains intact when you start walking away.
Like I said before, if self-defense was needed then by all means I would hit away. I wouldn't let someone beat on me. I would fight back, but if they were just yelling, and acting like an idiot, I would walk away, so it didn't get out of hand.




Posted by XeroPercent

Not all women are weaker then men. But ate the same time any guy who hits a woman in a "non-life-or-death" situation is a total biatch.




Posted by poisonblood


Quoting Bebop: If a girl hits you first this silly little rule shouldnt stop you giving her equal force.


The problem with this is that it is hard to determine what equal force is, and even if the force is equal woman are generally smaller and weaker then men(not all of them just most of them) so an equal amount of force would hurt a woman much more than it would hurt a man.

A man will injure a woman much more than a woman will injure a man on most occasions.

This does not mean that men should not hit back just because a girl is a girl.

In the end if I were to cause a woman any pain I would feel incredibly bad. I am against hitting women simply because that is how I was raised.

Being a gentleman is much more impressive to the ladies than being a brute.



Posted by Lord of Spam


Quoting Last Fog: The whole "women are weaker" argument is stupid. That's no reason to not hit a woman. With that logic, if another man who's weaker starts beating up on you you're supposed to take it?


No, you're supposed to use minimal force required to nuetralize the threat, same as anything. Someone hitting you doesnt give you carte blanche to rain a storm of blows upon them. You get to defend yourself, and thats it.



Posted by Arwon

This argument is weird. Since when has "hitting a woman" been about flirty little punches or similar trivium, or anything other than full-on domestic abuse?




Posted by Lord of Spam

Since bebop was a poor oppressed white male.




Posted by Arwon

Well, clearly if a girl hits you in a flirty/random type context you grab her fists and wrestle/pin her arms so she can't hit you. This also DEMOSNTRATES YOUR MANLY STRENGTH OVER WEAK WOMEN.




Posted by Slade

^ And some girls think that's hawt.

Personally, I make it a point to not hit women. I've had relationships where the girl wanted me to throw her down and hurt her, and I just didn't want to at all. There are a ton of factors in that one, though, like how she wanted me to hit her because she honestly felt she needed to be punished for something or other. And that's just kind of scary.

About 99% of the time I've been hit by a girl, it was in a flirtatious manner, in response to which I'd act accordingly. The other times I'd just take it because she really needed an outlet and it didn't bother me at all. But that has always in the chest/arms. If a woman hit me in the face, I'd definitely be stunned, and if I wasn't knocked off balance I'd probably instinctually take a swing.

And then there's the .2% of the time that I get hit or kicked in the crotch... Well then there's nothing I can do except lie down on the ground and hope I lose conciousness.




Posted by Aioros

[COLOR="Yellow"]I would never hit a woman, unless she's coming at me with a knife or threatening my life somehow. I'm not "following any rules", it just doesn't feel right, and usually a fight or argument against a woman can be easily avoided without violence i've found. I feel the same way about hitting kids, animals or british men.[/COLOR]




Posted by Lord of Spam


Quoting Aioros: [COLOR="Yellow"]I feel the same way about hitting kids, animals or british men.[/COLOR]


I already said it wasnt cool to beat up on weak guys:P



Posted by Bebop


Quoting Lord of Spam: Since bebop was a poor oppressed white male.


I'm not talking about flirty little punches. I'm talking about the retards who flip out at a guy is he defends himself from a woman because "lokl he didnt follow da u cant hit girlz rulezzz". I wanted to know where people stood on this. Whether they would never hit a woman at all, only in self defense, or if they are drunk.



Posted by Delilah

It all depends on the situation, I think. Generally, I don't think its right for a man to beat a woman (or vice-versa, for those of you who think me a sexist) without provokation. Like Iris said, if a baby is gnawing at your hand, you wouldn't punch him in the face. It all depends on who started it, who did what, and who is weaker or stronger.




Posted by Aioros


Quoting Lord of Spam: I already said it wasnt cool to beat up on weak guys:P

[COLOR="Yellow"]Perhaps British men should be allowed to beat up women. You know, to even the playing field.[/COLOR]:-D



Posted by Lord of Spam

Well now you know. Only if they were big enough to handle themselves or if I had to.




Posted by Bebop


Quoting Aioros: [COLOR="Yellow"]Perhaps British men should be allowed to beat up women. You know, to even the playing field.[/COLOR]:-D


Female Boxing is the Britsh national sport. And thats not to be confused with female boxers.



Posted by Kanashuri

If she gives me lip. Thats a whoopin'




Posted by Kit

I wouldn't hit a woman unless my life depended on it. Men tend not to hit women because they feel as if women can't defend themselves, even though a lot of them carry pepper spray or something similar. Even if they didn't, they could yell help and people will come to her aid.

Woman hits Man: "u go girl!!1"
Man hits Woman: "omg noes u cnt hit womenz!!1"

I mean, at school, a girl scratched me in the face for no reason. (With nails as well, ouch.) I was just sitting down, and she walks up and scrapes away, without any good reason at all. (Except that she was a chav.) All of my friends were telling me not to do anything, because of the 'rules of fighting'.

If a woman stuck a knife out, or something similar I wouldn't see much choice. So I'd have to do something to defend myself.




Posted by Bebop

What do you say to a woman with 2 black eyes?


Nothing. You told her twice already ;-*


True story




Posted by Ch

When I was little my Dad said/beat he'd beat the sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t out of me if I laid violent hands on a female.

So I would never beat women.

Well, yea, I don't go around decking girls in the face. I usuallly don't ever get girls ****ed enough to the point where they would start being violent.




Posted by GRIM

Not even a question, a guy hits a woman in front of me no matter the circumstances and I guarantee I will be busting his ****ing *** in no time flat.

Last fight I got into was actually a few years ago over the exact question being raised. A guy threw his girlfriend down at a party, into a car and she landed on the pavement. I was passed the **** out, others awoke me, I went out to him, didn't even hesitate picking the SOB up by the throat throwing him into the cement and breaking several of his bones.

I have 5 sisters, one of them being with many abusive pricks. I can remember when I was younger going with my parents to pick her up out of an alley, missing chunks of hair, bleeding, teeth missing. Experience like that goes a long way, hitting a woman IMO is never, never acceptable. I will defend woman against guys at all costs, I have on more than one occassion ;)

My 2 cents, take it or leave it...




Posted by Kanashuri


Quoting GRIM: Not even a question, a guy hits a woman in front of me no matter the circumstances and I guarantee I will be busting his ****ing *** in no time flat.

Last fight I got into was actually a few years ago over the exact question being raised. A guy threw his girlfriend down at a party, into a car and she landed on the pavement. I was passed the **** out, others awoke me, I went out to him, didn't even hesitate picking the SOB up by the throat throwing him into the cement and breaking several of his bones.

I have 5 sisters, one of them being with many abusive pricks. I can remember when I was younger going with my parents to pick her up out of an alley, missing chunks of hair, bleeding, teeth missing. Experience like that goes a long way, hitting a woman IMO is never, never acceptable. I will defend woman against guys at all costs, I have on more than one occassion ;)

My 2 cents, take it or leave it...


What if a guy hits the chick but then the chick kicks the guys ***?



Posted by GRIM


Quoting Kanashuri: What if a guy hits the chick but then the chick kicks the guys ***?

I don't give a ****, me as a guy will take punches, kicks and try to defend not attack any woman..

No situation does it deserve or call for a guy, any type of 'man' to hit a woman.



Posted by Kanashuri

No Im saying would you do anything if the chick beat the **** out of the guy who hit her?




Posted by GRIM


Quoting Kanashuri: No Im saying would you do anything if the chick beat the **** out of the guy who hit her?

OH sorry :o

Laugh and chear her on perhaps...:p



Posted by Crazy K

I would never hit a woman. I would only hit a woman if she were to keep attacking me, or try to come at me with a weapon. Other then that I really don't see it fit to hit any woman.




Posted by Captain Cleanoff

[quote=GRIM]
I have 5 sisters, one of them being with many abusive pricks. I can remember when I was younger going with my parents to pick her up out of an alley, missing chunks of hair, bleeding, teeth missing. Experience like that goes a long way, hitting a woman IMO is never, never acceptable. I will defend woman against guys at all costs, I have on more than one occassion ;)
Has she been put into therapy? A chick who continously goes after abusive guys is just as mentally sick as the abusers themselves, and the cycle won't end unless the sickness is healed.




Posted by GRIM

First off again to Kanashuri sorry for misreading, the censored part made me think you said what if she kicked the guy first, I was confused now I reread it again and am like WTF was I thinking


Quoting Imperial Phantom: Has she been put into therapy? A chick who continously goes after abusive guys is just as mentally sick as the abusers themselves, and the cycle won't end unless the sickness is healed.

Sadly as far as I know, she was not. She has since married her 2nd husband, a guy who has done the same things to her. You are right, once abused more often than not the abused woman for some reason craves the abuse even if they hate it.



Posted by Bebop


Quoting GRIM: Not even a question, a guy hits a woman in front of me no matter the circumstances and I guarantee I will be busting his ****ing *** in no time flat.


Your on a train with your family and your surronded by other familes. A female suicide bomber opens her jacket, revealing her aparatus, and excalims "Ackbar Allah jihad!" A guy steps out and tackles the woman before punching her out cold mere miliseconds before she pushes the detonation button. Are you still saying that after this guy saved the lives of all the families on board, including yours, you would punch him in the teeth?



Posted by GRIM


Quoting Bebop: Your on a train with your family and your surronded by other familes. A female suicide bomber opens her jacket, revealing her aparatus, and excalims "Ackbar Allah jihad!" A guy steps out and tackles the woman before punching her out cold mere miliseconds before she pushes the detonation button. Are you still saying that after this guy saved the lives of all the families on board, including yours, you would punch him in the teeth?

Well of course there are the rare, rare cases. A case such as you have set forth is more a terrorist, more a military individual in which case gender is removed. Female space aliens could also come down and rape and murder, it's possible, but I'm speaking of general every day life.



Posted by Bebop

Well you said no matter the circumstances so... ;-*




Posted by TantalizeNipples


Quoting Iris: Actually, it really shouldn't matter the gender. If you need to defend yourself, you should at least have enough self control to keep from severely injuring some one if they don't pose a large threat.


I agree with Iris but I think no matter what hitting girls isnt cool.



Posted by Philsdad


Quoting GRIM: Not even a question, a guy hits a woman in front of me no matter the circumstances and I guarantee I will be busting his ****ing *** in no time flat.

Last fight I got into was actually a few years ago over the exact question being raised. A guy threw his girlfriend down at a party, into a car and she landed on the pavement. I was passed the **** out, others awoke me, I went out to him, didn't even hesitate picking the SOB up by the throat throwing him into the cement and breaking several of his bones.


Hey just out of curiosity, how many assault charges do you have? Just a word of advice, you should probably learn to chill a little before you end up with restraining orders up to your neck. Sorry to break your self righteous bubble, but people have every right to defend themselves from being physically harmed whether you like it or not. Just because you might not mind being assaulted by women, doesn't mean that other people should have to take that crap. If someone woman started kicking me in the shins repeatedly for absolutely no reason and wouldn't stop, hell yeah I am going to defend myself. And if some psychopath came up to me and broke my bones because of it, I'd do everything in my power to make sure they got sent to prison for a long time where they belong.



Posted by Lord of Spam

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/penguinbob/temp/leavingthekitchen.jpg[/IMG]

pic related as a joke.




Posted by GRIM


Quoting Philsdad: Hey just out of curiosity, how many assault charges do you have? Just a word of advice, you should probably learn to chill a little before you end up with restraining orders up to your neck. Sorry to break your self righteous bubble, but people have every right to defend themselves from being physically harmed whether you like it or not. Just because you might not mind being assaulted by women, doesn't mean that other people should have to take that crap. If someone woman started kicking me in the shins repeatedly for absolutely no reason and wouldn't stop, hell yeah I am going to defend myself. And if some psychopath came up to me and broke my bones because of it, I'd do everything in my power to make sure they got sent to prison for a long time where they belong.

That would be zero there buddy, I've had cops compliment me ;) I have never beaten a guy for a 'chick' hurting him, it's wrong to protect woman? Really now? Wow now you need some serious help IMO..



Posted by Philsdad


Quoting GRIM]That would be zero there buddy, I've had cops compliment me :

Protecting women huh? Let's quote this again.


Quoting GRIM: Last fight I got into was actually a few years ago over the exact question being raised. A guy threw his girlfriend down at a party, into a car and she landed on the pavement. I was passed the **** out, others awoke me, I went out to him, didn't even hesitate picking the SOB up by the throat throwing him into the cement and breaking several of his bones.


Uh, that doesn't sound very much like protecting women. That sounds more like vigilante justice to me. The cops must be pretty corrupt in your area if they allow things like this to go on. You should probably learn the difference "defending someone's safety and/or life" and "vigilantism" if you ever move to an area with civilized cops.

If a woman is being attacked and you kick the guy's *** during the progress to save her, then that's obviously different. Of course I don't have a problem with that. If anyone woman I cared about was being attacked, or even someone I didn't know, of course I'd want to help them. But that's a far cry from what you're talking about:

[QUOTE=GRIM]No situation does it deserve or call for a guy, any type of 'man' to hit a woman.


Obviously you don't care what the situation is. So even if she attacks first and he hits her back in self defense you'll be "busting his ****ing ***"? If her life isn't in immediate danger, would you still "bust his ****ing ***?" If so, that's not protection, that's spite and uncontrolled anger. So don't give me that crap about how I don't think women should be protected. And once again, let's quote..


Quoting GRIM: Not even a question, a guy hits a woman in front of me no matter the circumstances and I guarantee I will be busting his ****ing *** in no time flat.


The fact that you are unable to take circumstance into consideration and assess an individual situation shows that you are completely irrational. I don't think you're in much of a place to tell me I need help.



Posted by GRIM

Wow dude you truthfully are not even worth responding to as #1 the attack was still going on when I got involved. You might try asking first..

Defending is also different than hitting, you do not need to hit a woman in order to defend yourself..

You're so far off it's actually pretty **** funny, thanks for the laugh :p




Posted by Philsdad


Quoting GRIM: Wow dude you truthfully are not even worth responding to as #1 the attack was still going on when I got involved. You might try asking first...


Really, you might want to try telling the whole story first then. If you were "passed the **** out" as you so eloquently put, and had to have people come wake you up, that would give most people the impression that at least some time passed during the situation. So you might not want to leave out such important details like THE ATTACK WAS STILL GOING ON. And that was just one situation. This isn't just about what you have already done, but what you would potentially do in a given situation. And you already admitted plain and simple that you don't care what the situation was, you'd "bust their ****ing ***" no matter what. And like I said, if "victim's" life or health isn't in immediate danger, then you have no right to physically attack the perpetrator, period. Is it really that hard to understand?


Quoting GRIM: Defending is also different than hitting, you do not need to hit a woman in order to defend yourself..


Hey you may not have known this, but both women and men come in all shapes, sizes and strengths. Some men are a lot weaker than others, and if the situation called for it, he may need to hit in order to defend himself. I believe it was Iris who said that no matter what the situation, minimal force should be used for self defense. And I agree with that. But obviously the amount of force that equates to "minimal force" will differ in each situation. Maybe the guy is really scrawny and the girl is pretty strong. If she starts beating the crap out of him, then maybe he really would need to hit her back in order to defend himself. And in that situation he doesn't deserve to have his bones broken by some other guy.

I just don't understand why you refuse to look at context and assess individual situations. You seem to be so hung up on being the "macho tough guy hero who saves the day" that you don't even realize that not every situation is as clear cut as you may think. I know you think this way out of good intentions and all, and if I had to go through some of the crap you described, I'd probably be pretty ****ed off too. But that doesn't excuse erratic violent behavior. Just think about what the world would be like if everybody acted that erratically about situations they felt strongly about.



Posted by Speedfreak

I'd block it.

Because beating people up is gay.




Posted by Lord of Spam

I bet grim couldnt beat up anything to save his life. He has the typical LOL IM TOUGH ON THE INTERNET attitude that all 14 year old morons seem to adopt.




Posted by Speedfreak

I CHANGED MY MIND.

I'd incapacitate her. Sweep, get her in a lock, knock her out if need be. But nothing unnecessary and only to defend myself, any people that might be around me and herself.

Then tie the bitch up so when she wakes up she can't go spac again.




Posted by Arwon

I've decided that this thread kinda fails.




Posted by GRIM


Quoting Lord of Spam]I bet grim couldnt beat up anything to save his life. He has the typical LOL IM TOUGH ON THE INTERNET attitude that all 14 year old morons seem to adopt.
lol...umm sure you think that : Really, you might want to try telling the whole story first then. If you were "passed the **** out" as you so eloquently put, and had to have people come wake you up, that would give most people the impression that at least some time passed during the situation. So you might not want to leave out such important details like THE ATTACK WAS STILL GOING ON. And that was just one situation. This isn't just about what you have already done, but what you would potentially do in a given situation. And you already admitted plain and simple that you don't care what the situation was, you'd "bust their ****ing ***" no matter what. And like I said, if "victim's" life or health isn't in immediate danger, then you have no right to physically attack the perpetrator, period. Is it really that hard to understand?

I didn't realise I needed to put a play by play out there for you, if you had a question it takes you 2 seconds to ask. I was passed out when the attack started, it takes what a couple of seconds to wake me up, less than a minute once the attack started I ended it ;)

[Quote]Hey you may not have known this, but both women and men come in all shapes, sizes and strengths. Some men are a lot weaker than others, and if the situation called for it, he may need to hit in order to defend himself. I believe it was Iris who said that no matter what the situation, minimal force should be used for self defense. And I agree with that. But obviously the amount of force that equates to "minimal force" will differ in each situation. Maybe the guy is really scrawny and the girl is pretty strong. If she starts beating the crap out of him, then maybe he really would need to hit her back in order to defend himself. And in that situation he doesn't deserve to have his bones broken by some other guy.

I just don't understand why you refuse to look at context and assess individual situations. You seem to be so hung up on being the "macho tough guy hero who saves the day" that you don't even realize that not every situation is as clear cut as you may think. I know you think this way out of good intentions and all, and if I had to go through some of the crap you described, I'd probably be pretty ****ed off too. But that doesn't excuse erratic violent behavior. Just think about what the world would be like if everybody acted that erratically about situations they felt strongly about.
I wont even debate with any guy whom thinks it's ok to hit a woman, you are coming off as a guy who more than likely has and is looking for a reason to make it 'ok' Yes of course there are the exceptions to every rule, normal every day life though in my mind NO THERE IS NEVER, EVER a reason to hit a woman! I will protect a woman at all costs, if that makes me a POS hey then I'm a POS.

LOL at lord of spam though, tough guy on the net hey...please, Jesse has seen pics of me and umm well I am willing to put money down there is not a single person on this board who would stand a chance against me. I however AM NOT A FIGHTER, I fight ONLY WHEN I need to protect.



Posted by Philsdad


Quoting GRIM: I wont even debate with any guy whom thinks it's ok to hit a woman, you are coming off as a guy who more than likely has and is looking for a reason to make it 'ok'


Nope, couldn't be further than the truth. I've never hit a woman, and never would. I pretty much hate all violence, which is why I was so appalled by you breaking people's bones and all that. To me, two wrongs doesn't make a right, which is why I draw the line at minimal force self defense no matter what the situation. Which is pretty much what I've been arguing for the whole time.. I never said you shouldn't protect women. It was your "method" of dealing with said situations that concerned me..

So did the guy from the party end up doing time?



Posted by GRIM

#1 my method as you call it, breaking his bones. I am alot bigger and stronger than the 'normal' person, even when I've tried holding back my punches hit with more force than the normal person.

#2 no cops were called, he went to the hospital and that's the last I heard. With the exception of him stating if he had 'only gotten his gun'..

BTW I'm weaker now than I was then, now I'm 6'3" 245 lbs mostly muscle. I can break a bone w/o trying, even with trying to hold back. When I broke his bones it was nothing more than picking him up off of her and throwing him down. It was very 'minimal'




Posted by Philsdad


Quoting GRIM: BTW I'm weaker now than I was then, now I'm 6'3" 245 lbs mostly muscle. I can break a bone w/o trying, even with trying to hold back. When I broke his bones it was nothing more than picking him up off of her and throwing him down. It was very 'minimal'


Alright, that sounds perfectly reasonable then. But from the way you wrote your first few posts it didn't sound like that- you sounded a LOT more belligerant and aggressive, which is why I jumped on this. Thanks for putting it into context.

I bet that guy didn't even have a gun. Usually when people say lines like that, they're full of ****. If he really had a gun, I bet he would have went for it the second situation started to get out of hand.



Posted by Bebop

4 pages? Wow.




Posted by Bo Dang

Down here in the south beating women isnt a big deal




Posted by Crazy K

I remember when I was like the age of 9 or so, and my neighbor's friend came down for a visit. This girl was far more bigger then I was, wow hard to believe right?

Well anyways this girl was around the age of 12, or something of the sort. I can't remember everything from the time, but I do remember her hitting me constantly at times when I was at my neighbors house. Anyways I stuck to the "you should never hit girls" motto, but I wanted to fight back so bad, but choose not to do so.

Anyways I truthfully agree with Philsdad, that if your much smaller and weaker that you should have every right to fight back. I can see the fact of coming to a woman's aid when a man beats her. I would jump for a women who was being beat up, but if some woman just blatantly punches a man multiple times to cause harm, I can see the man fighting back in self defense. I surly would. But that's just saying if this woman is bigger then I am. If she was a small weak woman, I would never think of hitting her back.




Posted by Apathetic


Quoting The Judge: I'm sure this has been said so far, but I haven't read the thread:

Only in self-defense, at which point I'll just subdue her, not knock her out (unless that's what it takes). I don't think men should ever hit women (Unless, you know, they're really tough women, like those iron maidens int he muscle shows, but who marries one of them anyways?).

At first I thought he said seduce and I started to laugh. Har har.



Posted by Bebop

I saw a woman getting beatun up last night. Well to be honest we only knew it was a women when we got close and saw bobbies, and he didnt actually see him hit her but he had pinned her down, whilst she screamed, and had marks over her. My group and I were about to try to split this up when a much larger man came to do it for us. He was handling the situation very well actually. Instantly got the guy to get off her through being calm and polite. Well the police we called and I ate my burger.




Posted by Draxamus

Gotta keep chicks in line somehow!




Posted by Bebop

Oh yeh and she was pregnent. Maybe he was trying to kill the kid.