http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3295
If you see little plumes of smoke coming from your ps3 as it freezes up, you'll know that you've blown a few cell cores. If it freezes up without the smoke, that's probably sony's fault, too.
Yeah, man, curse sony for making those horrible little laws of physics. I mean, what the hell were they thinking? Why cant they make everything work perfectly all the time every time for only $5? CURSE THOSE EVIL *******S AMIRITE GUYS?
Seriously, fucking lay off the fanboy shit. Yes, it sucks for sony (truth be told it looks to me like they WANT to fail) but its not like they are responsible for the low yeild rate. Thats just the way the manufacturing works with such an intricate chip. Will it suck if you blow a core on the 7 core units? Yup, but guess what? IF YOU DONT WANT TO RISK THAT JUST DONT BUY ONE. Bam, problem solved.
[quote=Lord of Spam]its not like they are responsible for the low yeild rate.
Actually, yes they are. They designed the processor in a certain manner, and as a result they're getting "amazing potential" but not much that great out of it.
Aren't seven of the cores basically only good at calculating floating-point operations (not very useful in gaming) and only one of them actually a 'fast' one? It would suck if that one blew out.
Jesus Christ, 10%? I don't think anyone expected 100% but **** that's low. Hopefully they can figure it out and get more than "double" by the time the console ships, because I do plan to eventually buy one.
I'm sure this will be fixed by launch.
This sounds like a fatal error in a key spot that needs to be remedied or it could just become useless.
Yes, fixed by launch. Because PS1, PS2 and PSP were fixed by launch. Sony didn't have a class-action lawsuit against them for faulty products, not at all.
Seriously though, that yeild sucks. Look's like Nintendo is once again the only company you can trust on launch day. I swear, I wish every consumer electronics company took notice of them. Ever hear of an iPod crashing? Heck yes. What about a GameBoy?
[quote=Phlynthe]I've seen a gameboy crash lottsa times. DS and GBA too.
Other than on startup because there's dust on the cart or the one time I threw it across the room in frustration, I've never seen a single Game Boy crash. I've heard stories of them being dropping in a swimming pool whilst on pause and, after being fished out, still being totally playable. There there's that famous original GB that survived a shelling in the Gulf War.
There was also one feature in NP that was lost on a lawn for two weeks, rained on, driven over by a lawnmower and practically smashed... but still played games perfectly well. This was a GBC, by the way.
I always thought it was common knowledge that gameboys, or most nintendo products, are built like tanks.
S0ul: think about what you just implied, i.e. that you have a RIGHT to play the ps3. Guess what? ITS A NOVELTY. It is an unneeded peice of equipment that only the rich (in global terms) will be able to afford. Saying that you should be denied the right to own one is like complaining that Ferrari shouldnt charge $15000 for brake upgrade kits since it is prohibitively expensive. Just because its there doesnt mean you deserve it, homes.
Prince shrondifbnvadbf: I dont care if you want to say "Hey, guys, heres an article about how sony has problems with their chips. etc" Hell, I myself agree that they are being retarded. However, that being said, your constant ZOMG SONY BAD I HOPE THAT SONY EXECS GET KILLED OR COMMIT SUICIDE MAN I SURE HATE SONY bull**** is tiring. And to compound it, you actually claim not to be a fanboy. Suck my balls.
Speed: Not to be an ***, but I've never heard of an iPod crashing. I mean, I'm sure it happens, but I've never seen it.
No one will gamble 600 bucks. They'll do something about the problem.
Just like any other company amirite. It's not like we're dealing with Hell Inc. here, trying to swindle our every penny.
At this price tag, they'd better come up with a solution quickly. Good thing this was found beforehand.
[COLOR="Lime"]Judging by the game screenshots on PS3.IGN.com, PS3 is graphically superior than Xbox360. New improved chips must avoid the plaguing freeze problem, otherwise game developers would kick Sony out the door. Blu-ray movies in high definition picture quality from the console would save me money for buying an extra Blu-ray player. I like the aerodynamic bow-shaped control pad. Thumbs up for Sony.[/COLOR]
[quote=Lord of Spam]Speed: Not to be an ***, but I've never heard of an iPod crashing. I mean, I'm sure it happens, but I've never seen it.
Happened to my first-gen, happened to a third-gen I borrowed and I saw it happen to my mother's Nano yesterday.
[quote=misogenie]PS3 is graphically superior than Xbox360.
No; they're about equivalent.
[quote]I like the aerodynamic bow-shaped control pad.
That was phased out a long while ago.
To everyone who felt the need to quote my ipod phrase: did you miss the pare where I'm said "I'm sure it happens"? I'm just curious, since for some reason several people felt the need to try to show that it did happen. FunFact: I ADMITTED THAT IT PROBABLY DID.
shrondiaiedoba: LOL IM OBVIOUSLY JOKING is the oldest and lamest cop in the history of the internets.
s0ul: Sorry, but I interpreted "we shouldn't have to miss out on a whole third of the generation" as being indicative of some sort of right to play video games. To fix the analogy, make it complaining about the fact that clutches on Ferraris only last at best about 5k miles. Does it have a ****ty longevity? Yup. It is rediculously technical and complex? Yup. Do you have a right to access to it? Hell no, its a ****ing luxury item.
Sorry if that wasnt what you were trying to say, but thats the implication that that statement carries.
I find it amusing that you're actually comparing a PS3 to a Ferrari. Something quite plain you're not realising, Ferrari don't want everyone to own their cars, Sony want everyone to own their consoles. One is achieving just what they set out to do, the other is trying to paint what's supposed to be a common peice of equipment as a "luxury item".
And what, pray tell, makes PS3 a luxury item anyway? It's about as powerful as Xbox 360, it's losing developer support fast, the controller is a cheap ripoff of some real innovation, it's lost a feature that was standard last generation and to top it all off, no one even wants it's main feature: Blu-Ray. This isn't a luxury item, it's an expensive, poor value peice of junk. Great cars become worth more as time goes on if kept in shape, same doesn't go for consumer electronics.
[COLOR="Yellow"]I wouln't be surprised if the PS3 is delayed if they can't fix this problem before launch date. Either that or lower the number of cores per chip to increase the yields percent. There's still time to fix the problem.
And since i've never had a defective Sony product (specially not a gaming product), i'm not concerned at all.[/COLOR]
[quote]I wouln't be surprised if the PS3 is delayed if they can't fix this problem before launch date
I would, if sony misses the christmas rush they would miss there best time to sell. My guess is that their gonna try and fix it asap or make it barable.
[quote]And since i've never had a defective Sony product (specially not a gaming product
Well thank *** and do a dance cuz you sir are living the dream.
Their has been tons of accounts , tests, and even my own accounts of ****ty sony products.
Its been prooven that they are weaker. My cousin had to buy three ps2 that broke for new reason. my friend had to buy three psp for buttons not working.
So you'r lucky.
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All in all they'll probably get it better neer launch, I hope.
Your friend didn't have to buy three anything. If he'd sent the original systems in for repairs, he could have spent less money and not added to the false impression that sony has a userbase of over 70 million people.
Paul, Jack Thomson is a knobhole of an ex-lawyer who is the biggest crusader against video games in existance. He's made outlandish accusations and filed frivilous lawsuits against video game companies because of his belief that video game violence warps the impressionable minds of young people everywhere.
[COLOR="Yellow"]Oh, you mean Jack Thompson.[/COLOR]
Oh. He would have 'p' on him, wouldn't he?
CHIPS HAVE LOW YIELDS WHEN THEY ARE FIRST MANUFACTURED.
And the cost just keeps on rising:
http://gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=77088
Ah, not as much of a problem as it might seem, except that Sony are banking on the strategy that the PS3 will dominate as much as the PS2 did, which I can't see happening. For a start, the roles are reversed - PS2 had a head-start on the Xbox and managed to get a higher attach rate because of that. Secondly, it wasn't six hundred dollars.
Sony will only make their money back, really, if the PS3 is as strong against the other two as PS2 was/is this generation, and with the strength of the 360 already out for a year and the price of the Wii, I can't see them fitting their five-year projected model as cleanly as they'd like.
I still predict that the PS3 wont launch this November.
I don't think sony will be limiting supply on purpose this time, Wings!
Want to bet?
They might want to limit supply on purpose, but even if they wanted to ship enough that every ps2-owner on the planet could buy one at launch, they'd be stuck with the 10 working ones they'll have assembled by November.
I bet they have a room full of monkeys working around the clock on this one. Cause right now I would put a lot more faith into the monkey's than sony.
lol i think that sony wont gain much if any profit i say this becasue wile they r losing so much money on the saystem thy are getting alot of profit on the games they olny take about 25 cents to make a disk then they sell them for 69.99usd and finally i somtimes forget this and im shure im not the olny one sony dosnt just make games and systems like nintendo they also make tv's camras, cd drives ect.so even if they bomb on the system the games and other **** will keep sony on thir feet
What you're really forgetting (at least I think you're forgetting it in all of that mess), muffla, is that sony computer entertainment is more or less a seperate entity from the sony parent corporation. sony's not going to drain their profits from other consumer electronics, just to keep themselves afloat in the video game industry forever. If they lose enough, quickly enough, and for a long enough period of time, sony computer entertainment will be shut down by the shareholders and their intellectual properties sold to the highest bidders. sony will survive, but sce will die.
Yeah, exactly. And Sony themselves are clever enough to realise that PlayStation is keeping them popular, but also fickle enough to shut down SCEW if the PS3 does as badly as the PSP. Look at Nintendo as an example - instead of shutting down their company, they had to radically change their take on the industry. Since people weren't buying the Cube and therefore developers weren't making games for it, they turned round and said 'okay, don't make those games, make different types of games for a different type of console.'
Sony, being a multimedia company, are much more likely to just axe part of it. There's no denying the strength of the PlayStation brand, but given the losses they're making, if they drop too much in their attach rate it just won't be worth making the PS4.
Just thinking about that makes the world smell a little better.