It's a thread to post your political views on anything because not every thread out there will give you an opportunity to do so. Rather than a debatable threads its more of a reference page where you could read users updated views, or where you can post an opinion on something small. Makes sense?
I'll start :sonic:
Adultery should be made illegal with prison sentences as opposed to fines.
Hip hop is not only the ugliest, dullest, stupidest culture out there but it encourages and glorifies crime.
Political correctness is most of the time dumb.
Christianity is foced to much upon children in school. Rather than taught ABOUT it I was taught to FOLLOW it.
Children are exposed to much sex or sexual stuff on television.
Giving homosexuals too many rights will eventually lead to legalization of cross specie marriages.
I don’t get why its socially acceptable for a women to use a man to buy drinks for her in a pub, yet if a man uses a women to make meals for him he’s deemed a 'sexist pig' while the women gets a flattering 'flirty' status.
American comedy is so incredibly unfunny it’s an embarrassment to the country (MTV Movie Awards anyone?)
Poor people are more likely to commit crimes than rich people
Poor people are more likely to be stupid than rich people
Crimes for knife crime, muggings and rapes should carry higher prison sentences.
If a 14 year old doesn’t hesitate to kick a homosexual man to death with her friends in a gang killing (a true news story in Britain which occurred over a few months ago but the girl involved may have been younger) they are a failure to society, the education system, a danger to themselves including everyone around, and unstable and as a result should be executed or at the very least serve a minimum of a life prison sentence.
The only real time I think the 'eye for an eye' saying works is prison sentences for murders. Rather than being killed for murdering, a criminal will serve life which means life. It’s a fairer way of 'taking a life for a life' so to speak.
People who think there was some 9/11 government conspiracy have seen the Matrix and/or played Metal Gear Solid too many times.
Religion has done more bad than good.
Religious people are easy to criticize others and be more defense when criticized themselves, when compared to those who are not religious.
Video web bloggers are annoying attention seeking hypocritical whores.
Going to a Star Wars film dressed as a character is no way near as geeky or sad as going to a sporting event wearing a teams colour on all of your clothing, painting the colours on you, cheering like a monkey and singing crowd chants.
Teachers should have more physical power over students. To be honest there were so many dicks in my old school they needed a good kick in the jaw.
Scientology is a cult and should be made illegal.
Music videos, icons and advertisements are too sexed up nowadays.
Most teenage girls dress like whores.
Christians are the most annoying, abusive and arrogant religious people when compared to the other ones.
A girl can be partially blamed for a rape just like any person can be partially blamed for a theft.
I'm more against abortion than for it.
UPDATE 1:
Homosexuality is not normal. I don’t mean its a mental health problem or anything. But sex is for reproduction and thus the norm, so anything different from that is not normal.
People are not born homosexual
Openly gay teachers should not be allowed to teach. Quite frankly sexuality norms shouldn’t be taught in schools, whether it concerns homosexuality or heterosexuality. Teachers should be asexual beings.
Its wrong for 2 13 year old boys to kiss each other in public.
Saying you find camp people annoying is not a homophobic view. Being camp is not linked with homosexuality. Some straight people are camp and some gay people are not camp. Camp is to do with personality. Saying you find campness annoying is like saying you find arrogance, accents, bad laughs and shyness annoying.
Just because view on a subject is new or different it doesn’t mean its right nor that opposing views are 'old fashioned'. This applies to a lot of homosexuality views.
A lot of people are anti-America but don’t know why. Just like alot of Americans hate the French. A lot of people base their anti-culture views on narrow minded stereotypes and stick to them.
Knowledge doesn’t mean you’re mature. Just because you read books, go to plays or listens to classical music doesn’t mean your as mature as a guy who watches South Park, plays video games and dislikes Shakespeare.
UPDATE 2
Not everyone deserves the right to vote
Most people who are anti-immigation don't know why. They just read The Sun too much, listen to their bigot parents or are in the closet Nazi's. Some of my friends are very against immigration because "they are too many asian/black people".
Immigration is a good thing.
Sexist attitudes towards men are more accepted than sexist attitudes towards women.
Extreme liberals are worse than extreme conservatives.
Learning another language is a good thing.
Refusing to learn another language because "everyone should just speak English as its the most widely used language" is the most narrowminded thing ever.
Against capital punishment. All fo making prison harder though.
So, were trying to anger people with our views? Ok...
90% of music with an electric guitar, or any of it's variants, sounds exactly the same.
All "Madagascar" clones should be wiped off the earth. Except maybe "Over the Hedge", that was pretty good.
People who think Pokemon is unchristian are hilarious (goes and makes thread).
Anyone who imitates Rush Limbaugh is an idiot.
Rush Limbaugh is an idiot.
Censoring *** is unnessesary.
"The Matrix" is a darn good movie.
Chinese factory workers have damaged the US far more than any terrorist.
Stocks are not money...
The American justice system should be more like Judge Judy. The whole Enron trial could have been done in 5 minutes.
Most teenagers don't realise their lives of drinking and partying are just as pointless and empty as geeks playing videogames with eachother, and they quite enjoy acting high and mighty about it too.
The vast majority of TV ads aim to make men look like fools.
The British education system is skewed towards females.
Anti-bullying advertising should worry more about making kids realise what bullying actually is rather than feeling they can talk about it. They won't talk about their bullying if they don't think it's bullying in the first place.
People who regard themselves as totally "liberal" or "republican" should be stripped of their right to vote. This includes members of left and right-wing parties.
I think it's bulls[COLOR=lightgreen]h[/COLOR]it that I'm often regarded as some kind of sad case because I don't recognise the names of C-list celebrities, despite knowing much about industries and cultures relevent to my interests.
People who read glossy mags shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Celebrities are entirely fictional people. Their names, what they say, do, visit, attend and wear are all decided by a committee. For all intents and purposes they are not real.
The exception to this is when you see one in a court room, that is when they are their real self.
Young women have terrible role models.
Young people might not get enough exercise for their body, but getting exercise for their brain is much more important. Going jogging every day then returning home to veg out in front of the TV is just as unhealthy as playing various forms of videogames and reading all day.
Last but not least, my oft-repeated quote from Billy Connolly:
"White, heterosexual men are the ONLY people you can p[COLOR=lightgreen]i[/COLOR]ss off without there being a f[COLOR=lightgreen]u[/COLOR]cking demonstration outside your window next morning."
When I made the Rant board that everyone hated a while ago, no one realised that this was precisely it's intended purpose.
Adultery should be made illegal with prison sentences as opposed to fines.
no
Hip hop is not only the ugliest, dullest, stupidest culture out there but it encourages and glorifies crime.
to you maybe
Political correctness is most of the time dumb.
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Christianity is foced to much upon children in school. Rather than taught ABOUT it I was taught to FOLLOW it.
not that big of a deal here, but its getting worse
[b]Children are exposed to much sex or sexual stuff on television.
TRYING BEING A ******* PARENT THEN
Giving homosexuals too many rights will eventually lead to legalization of cross specie marriages.
I really hope you're joking
[b]I don
Lennin of Spam, you are probably the biggest idiot I have come across.
The intention of this thread is to post your views on topics that would otherwise have no oppotunity to do so. This is something you cannot grasp because youve picked about my beleifs.
What makes it worse is that you contradict yourself. You views on MY views ar simply "I disagree" with little or no comment to back it up. Then your last comment asks me to discuss more.
I should add to my list that stupidity is a crime. Luckily for you Spam you live to see another day.
But what's really sad about you and your existance is theres a chance you'll breed.
I'm glad that Speedfreak and Bebop only represent very skewed and extremist views on things in England. I mean, if thats how the majority of Brits think, then I understand more completely why we gave King George III the finger, and eventually, his own arse. What a lot of socially backward twats.
And they have the audacity to say America is bad? Come on.
You're suggesting the fact that your inherently biased view on women is statistical information. No, you fucking moron, it's not. It's at best an opinion, because "dressed like sluts" is subjective, and thusly, it cannot be statistically analyzed. What do they teach you kids over there anyway?
Inherently biased view on women? Becuase Ive witnessed first hand accounts that the majority of girls dress like sluts? And where did I mention I got this view from statistics? Ive mentioned being there so if anyhting Im admitting its a subjective view.
Oddly enough alot of views are subjective, including some of my own. Hence why I beleive the poor are more likely to commit crimes, becuase all the poor kids in my old schools are now in prison.
More detail? Fine. Here you go. And for the record, I was posting my beliefs about your beliefs, but apparently you were too stupid to pick that up. Git.
Adultery should be made illegal with prison sentences as opposed to fines.
Laws exist to maintain order, not morals. That is morals. Fail.
Hip hop is not only the ugliest, dullest, stupidest culture out there but it encourages and glorifies crime.
There are aspects of EVERYTHING that are ugly and encourage crime, and there are certain aspects of hip hop that arent that bad
Political correctness is most of the time dumb.
sometimes, yes. I partially agree (sometimes its called for).
Christianity is foced to much upon children in school. Rather than taught ABOUT it I was taught to FOLLOW it.
See, saying its forced on people in school is a universal statement. If you said "in england" or "at my school" I'd have no idea what you were talking about and would have to keep my mouth shut. However, I've attended school, and know that this isnt always the case. Hell, I attended a university that had an official affiliation with the Presbytarian Church of America and not once did I feel pressured at all. Fail.
Children are exposed to much sex or sexual stuff on television.
Dont want your kids to watch crap on tv? Then make sure you know what they are up to. ****ing and moaning about TEH EVILZ OF TEH TELE is jsut passing responsibility off out of laziness.
Giving homosexuals too many rights will eventually lead to legalization of cross specie marriages.
There is a UNIVERSE of difference between a sexual relationship between tw consenting adults and a consenting adult and an animal. There is NO reason to think that allowing homosexual rights would do anything like that, unless of course you're an ignorant homophobe.
[b]I don
No, becuase you havent read the first part of the post.
Yeah, man, what the hell was I thinking. I mean, posting my beliefs in a thread where the first sentence is "It's a thread to post your political views on anything". Man, what a retard I am. Man, I'm so stupid I'm probably like, jsut ASKING to be raped or something.
The point of this thread was to post your beleifs, not argue with others about theres. Your first post was exaclty that. Now make me a sandwich.
Do you even know what the rules of this board are? IT'S FOR DEBATE, YOU MENTALLY OBTUSE SHIT.
Which is why I specifically stated this thread was more of a database rather than "OMG BEBOP DOESNT LIKE ADULUTRY LOL" thing.
Think about it sweet cheeks, if it was open for debate someone would start to argue in like the 4th post. OH SHI-
Stating it shouldnt be about that prevents it getting cluttered and turning into a flame war.
[quote=Spam]You created a thread to post your beliefs. I posted my beliefs about your beliefs, thus I POSTED SOME OF MY BELIEFS. So shut the **** up, I did only what you suggested.
This thread is about avoiding flames or arugments. If you wanted to share your view on the same subjects I addressed you could have done so without presenting it as you did.
So you're saying I can post my beliefs as long as they dont conflict with yours?:cookie:
Face it, I posted what the thread asked. So deal with it.
Stop picking arguments in legit threads. It's fucking immature.
Ninja'd to the point of a rewrite
Iris: I posted my beliefs. I phrased it in the form of me giving responses to what he had said. Nothing more. Then he came in with ZOMG DONT KONTRADICT ME LOLZ and the argument ensued, but it was hardly started by me.
Bebop: I WAS ****ING COMMENTING BY POSTING MY BELIEFS ABOUT WHAT YOU HAD SAID. DURR DURR DURR.
You didn't post your political beliefs. You contradicted everything he said.
OMG YOUR AVATAR HAS NO EYES!
Iris, have any views on anything you're willing to share?
Yeah, well your's has no nose! :(
I don't have many outlandish political views, so I'm not going to bother expressing everything.
LoS: The point of this topic is to state your own political views, not your views on some one else's. It's quite obvious that you're only posting to attack Bebop.
Mine is black so its ok.
SPEAKING OF BLACKS I LOVE THEM
[quote=mis0viet]I'm glad that Speedfreak and Bebop only represent very skewed and extremist views on things in England. I mean, if thats how the majority of Brits think, then I understand more completely why we gave King George III the finger, and eventually, his own arse. What a lot of socially backward twats.
And they have the audacity to say America is bad? Come on.
F[COLOR=lightgreen]u[/COLOR]ck off, quite frankly. These are only thoughts, notions. Things that are highly subject to change at any given moment, not things we would be prepared to die for. I don't get how you manage to lump Bebop and I together when a) I never said I agreed with all of Bebops comments (because I realise the point of the bloody thread, you utter utter imbecile), and b) some of the things I say contradict some of the things he says.
Honestly, how the hell can you take half of what I said seriously? How the hell can you label me extremist when you yourself are self-proclaimed f[COLOR=lightgreen]u[/COLOR]cking Socialist and the vast majority of the time I take a roughly middle-ground stance on pretty much any given political issue?
I should've known it'd be the MySpace Brigade that'd come in a screw up what could've been a perfectly entertaining and interesting thread.
Thats where you fail. Its the way you presented it. Obviously the quote button is a big part of this. As is, as you put it, MOSTLY writing your own views.
[quote=mis0viet]You're suggesting the fact that your inherently biased view on women is statistical information.
WHAT MAN DOESN'T HAVE A BIASED VIEW ON WOMEN YOU STUPID. UTTER. F[COLOR=lightgreen]U[/COLOR]CKING. PRAT. WE CAN'T SEE THE OTHER SIDE OF IT BECAUSE IT'S PHYSICALLY F[COLOR=lightgreen]U[/COLOR]CKING IMPOSSIBLE. HOW COULD YOU HAVE ANYTHING BUT A BIASED VIEW OF THE OPPOSITE SEX!?
I'm trying to give you warnings, actually. :) Your recent "im an *** on the net, but it's cool" persona isn't going to help your posts from getting deleted.
I read the post quite well, actually. To many of the things he stated, you just replied "that's your opinion," rather than something along the lines of "I don't believe blah should be illegal." Now, as far as I'm concerned, that's contradicting some one, not giving your honest opinion on your own political beliefs.
You can deny it all you want, but I can clearly see, and most will find it, that you're just trying to pick fights with people rather than simply ignoring them or replying to them in a responsible, sensible manner.
Edit: I said stop posting so fast!
The structure is a fault because it went against what the thread was trying to prevent.
As did your content.
I've stated this before. It would be helpful and better or my blood pressure if you would stop taking individual posts out of context and twisting them in some attempt to aid you.
[size]Jesus...[/size]
"POST UR BELIEFS"
"I think x"
"OMG X ISNT WHAT I THINK U SHUD GET OUT"
And I'm the one starting arguments?
Is this a joke? Can someone really be this stupid?
The idea of this thread was to prevent argument, flames and cluttering.
THIS ENTIRE PAGE IS DEDICATED TO YOU, TO SHUT UP AND MOVE ON!
The entire page is devoted to me because you spent it telling me that I was arguing with the first post. Which I wasnt. Subsequent posts? Yes. But then again, so were the mods of this forum, so if you're upset with you're thread being derailed, I suggest you take it up with them. I'm done for now though:cookie:
To be honest, I'd have just deleted your first post, LoS, and any posts following it that asking why it was deleted. But shame on Bebop for acknowledging that you weren't following the rules he set for his thread? You can stop being an ignorant [COLOR=#ff9999]as[/COLOR]shole anytime, Los, even if it suits you well.
Please don't bother posting a response. If you're willing to stop acting immature, then I'm not going to argue it. You can send me a snide remark in a de-rep if you want. I just hope you can prevent yourself from acting such in the future.
If you look reeeeeaaaaal close, you can see where I admitted I was wrong for continuing the argument, despite the fact that I still think the initial post was ok. but go ahead and continue the argument more, thats a REAL good way to look like a professional, logical, reasonable mod. Oh, wait, nvm lol.
Well, if the purpose of the thread is solely post your own views without responding to the posts of others, it probably doesn't belong on the war board, which is most definitely for debating, which does involve responding to other peoples posts.
I posted it here because I felt it is the cloest to do with politics than anywhere else. Debates on each persons views were discouraged because as it can be seen its leads to pointless flames and arguments.
But if it belongs somewhere more suitable do it.
HOYL CRAP HOW DARE YOU CONTRADICT HIM THIS ISNT A THREAD FOR ARGUMENTS
I'm gonna play this game too:
*** doesn't exist. (Edit: See, even the board censor thinks so)
Privileged white kids need to drop the absurd persecution complex already.
Sport is a good thing.
Monarchy is objectionable at a philosophical level.
There's too much casual anti-Americanism in Australia and elsewhere. It's childish and absurdly hypocritical.
Racism still exists, people have just learned to hide it better.
No government funding for wealthy private schools. I'd rather everyone get a mediocre education than some get a good one and others get a bad one.
Dumb people are annoying, but smart people are often unbearable arseholes.
Corrolary: Nerds mostly have sh!tty politics.
The ecological crisis, in all its forms, will change politics utterly when it starts to bite hard. Watch for even the hardcore republicans and conservatives to turn into dictatorial Greens with rationing and restrictions and such...
The market is great, but it's terrible with environmental issues or things with great social importance (health, education).
Legalise all drugs.
Communism sucked, but Russia and most of Eastern Europe are probably even worse-off now. Capitalism and democracy as they were applied didn't help them much, and triumphalist idiots who think these things were magical cure-alls aren't paying attention at all.
Feminism is the most abused and meaningless term in politics, it essentially means something different to everyone who uses it... but people who rail against "feminism" for the most part seem to me to be doing the gender-politics equivalent of "I'm not racist, but..."
Censorship is NEVER okay. F!uck obsenity laws, f!ck your distaste for sexuality ion TV, and f!ck national security. The fact that this is unrealistic in practise doesn't mean it's not a good principle. Also, protecting kids through restrictions on access to various media isn't censorship.
Religion is fine, but it needs to be reduced to a harmless peripheral cultural phenomenon that doesn't affect important things. The Swedes have the right idea. America and the Islamic world do not. The sooner it's culturally acceptable to sell dildos on the street in Tehran and for a guy to make out with another guy in public in downtown Podunk, South Carolina, the better off we will all be.
We need more immigration. Everywhere.
If it's not in the Economist it's a stinking lie.
Islamic terrorism will dissappear in its own time and the risk of terrorist attack is vastly overstated, because people have no sense of relative risk. We in the west can't do anything to hasten this terrorism's demise because it's borne from an idea independent of any specific people or entity. We have to wait for the idea to become unfashionable like others have. The big dirty secret of the war on terrorism is that none of our leaders know what to do because THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO.
Related: We're kept safe by the tiny number of people willing to set off bombs, not by the government's security measures and invasive laws. These laws are bogus and dangerous.
UPDATE
[quote=Arwon]I'm gonna play this game too:
*** doesn't exist. (Edit: See, even the board censor thinks so)
Privileged white kids need to drop the absurd persecution complex already.
Sport is a good thing.
Monarchy is objectionable at a philosophical level.
There's too much casual anti-Americanism in Australia and elsewhere. It's childish and absurdly hypocritical.
Racism still exists, people have just learned to hide it better.
No government funding for wealthy private schools. I'd rather everyone get a mediocre education than some get a good one and others get a bad one.
Dumb people are annoying, but smart people are often unbearable arseholes.
Corrolary: Nerds mostly have sh!tty politics.
The ecological crisis, in all its forms, will change politics utterly when it starts to bite hard. Watch for even the hardcore republicans and conservatives to turn into dictatorial Greens with rationing and restrictions and such...
The market is great, but it's terrible with environmental issues or things with great social importance (health, education).
Legalise all drugs.
Communism sucked, but Russia and most of Eastern Europe are probably even worse-off now. Capitalism and democracy as they were applied didn't help them much, and triumphalist idiots who think these things were magical cure-alls aren't paying attention at all.
Feminism is the most abused and meaningless term in politics, it essentially means something different to everyone who uses it... but people who rail against "feminism" for the most part seem to me to be doing the gender-politics equivalent of "I'm not racist, but..."
Censorship is NEVER okay. F!uck obsenity laws, f!ck your distaste for sexuality ion TV, and f!ck national security. The fact that this is unrealistic in practise doesn't mean it's not a good principle. Also, protecting kids through restrictions on access to various media isn't censorship.
Religion is fine, but it needs to be reduced to a harmless peripheral cultural phenomenon that doesn't affect important things. The Swedes have the right idea. America and the Islamic world do not. The sooner it's culturally acceptable to sell dildos on the street in Tehran and for a guy to make out with another guy in public in downtown Podunk, South Carolina, the better off we will all be.
We need more immigration. Everywhere.
If it's not in the Economist it's a stinking lie.
Islamic terrorism will dissappear in its own time and the risk of terrorist attack is vastly overstated, because people have no sense of relative risk. We in the west can't do anything to hasten this terrorism's demise because it's borne from an idea independent of any specific people or entity. We have to wait for the idea to become unfashionable like others have. The big dirty secret of the war on terrorism is that none of our leaders know what to do because THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO.
Related: We're kept safe by the tiny number of people willing to set off bombs, not by the government's security measures and invasive laws. These laws are bogus and dangerous.
I made a point of repping you before I read what you said because I respect you for taking this thread seriously, unlike some other nameless individuals.
After reading your post I want to rep you again. I disagree with a few things on that list, but I can see solid logic in every single one of them. Good job.
Because I like people from other countries, and because I find restrictive immigration policies morally wrong (especially Australia's refugee policies), and because they're good for the economy. And because xenophobes are jerks and it's funny to see their heads explode.
I believe in Gee oh Dee
I believe immigration is a good thing, but assimilation is essential.
I believe that a new world order is a bad thing.
I believe that the US needs to chill with policing the world.
I believe that extreme liberals are just as bad as extreme conservatives.
I hate zealots of any kind.
I have a natural distrust of arabs. I am not proud of it, but ya know, it's somethign I can't entirely help.
I don't trust women either, but I think that suspicion is rightfully placed.
It takes a small bit to earn my respect, and even less to lose it.
I don't hold grudges.
I think your music probably sucks.
I'm an elitist.
I'm rarely hypocritical, so I am the best at being an elitist.
I believe that Hitler was sloppy.
I'm a huge fan of consistency, which I think arises from my being a conservative.
I believe in the republican ideals upon which the party was founded, see also Abraham Lincoln, De Tocqueville, and John Locke.
I believe in my Church, and if you don't like that, fair enough but if you don't want me to wave my idealogical balls in your face, please give me the same kindness.
I believe soccer is the greatest sport on earth.
I don't believe in ghosts, but I'm unsure about aliens.
I think demons and angels and all that are fun but I don't take them seriously.
I think a man should be a warrior and a politician by day and a poet and lover by night.
I think classical history is more interesting than any video game, movie, or sport.
I hate that people say "music is my life". It isn't your life, moron, it's something you do to escape your life. It's an art form, chill out.
I believe grammatical errors from 2nd grade are borderline illiteracy.
Legalize weed, and then tax and regulate the **** out of it. At least make some money off of idiotic vices.
I'm not a fan of drugs.
Abortion is an abombination in a so-called civilized society.
Let Israel annihilate everyone around it. You can't please all of the people all of the time.
Capitalism is the way to go. (though I do like some socialist ideas like health care etc, so I'm looking more into it)
children not knowing a foreign language fluently by age 16 is utter bull****.
There are no ties whatsoever between George Bush and Adolf Hitler
Existentialism.
Power Metal isn't gay.
Black and Death Metal suck
I didn't hear cheerleaders for creative writers.
Emo music sucks, period.
there is a difference between hating a government and hating an entire country-learn to differentiate.
I think Jesus would be ashamed of his followers.
I think intelligence is underrated, and nerds are awesome.
I hate Brazilian soccer.
Everyone should, before they die: write a novel, make a portfolio, learn another language, run a marathon, do mission work (religious or secular), visit a foreign country, paint a mural, meditate, work manual labor, play soccer, read something ancient, read an anthology, burn a bridge (metaphorically), write some poetry, and give me five dollars.
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
-Kahlil Gibran