The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzimiya : Questions




Posted by NightmareBassX

I saw some people with avatars and sigs of this (Vampiro and Ant), and it looked like a new anime, So I asked about it. I was told the name and downloaded 2 episodes, but haven't really watched them. Only the first 3 minutes of episode 1. I would like to know, what exactly this anime is about. In the beginning it looked like just a bunch of "icchi" I think its called, and that doesn't interest me so much. Does it have an Intriguing plot? Does it spike interest? I'd watch the full episode, but due to the icchi, it might make my mom and brother think Im watching porn or something... I would just like to know if it's real good, and if it is worth watching.

Edit :Icchi is not the right word I was looking for, I forgot what it was... Basically when somebody in an anime/manga looks very provocative.




Posted by Filarrh

First of all, don't start from the first episode; the episodes don't follow a chronological order. Rather, start from the second episode, which is episode one chronologically, and go from there. Or, you could look up an episode guide for it that tells you the real order, but since episodes 13 and 14 have yet to come out, you may find a small hole where episodes 5 and 6 are supposed to be.

Concerning the plot, the anime is centered around Haruhi Suzumiya, a freshman who dreams of meeting aliens and timetravelers and such because she thinks it would be "interesting." In order to accomplish this, she sets up a club called "The S.O.S brigade" and "voluntarily arrests" others to join her. The narrator, Kyon, becomes the first member of the brigade, after Haruhi, even though he was trying to leave his own fantasys about aliens behind in middle school. However, he begins to wonder what Haruhi really is after he confronts his other club members and learns their true intentions.

I can't summarize... T-T
But it's pretty funny IMO.

And by the way, that "Provocative" Character? You'll be seeing a lot of her, though it's not really pornography.




Posted by Arczu

[Font=Times New Roman]It is NOT pornography period.

Don't get first impressions from the first episode, because like they say, it's not in cronological order. Apparently, the episode numbers Haruhi calls out at the end of each episode are the REAL episode numbers.

This show just blows me away with each epsiode seriously. I can't imagine what this would be like if we didin't hear Kyon's thoughts on everything around him. Not only that but that dance they do in the ending animation is kick-arse.
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Posted by Etna

It's really a strange series, hard to explain with out spoiling.




Posted by Malevolence


Quoting Arczu: [Font=Times New Roman]It is NOT pornography period.

Don't get first impressions from the first episode, because like they say, it's not in cronological order. Apparently, the episode numbers Haruhi calls out at the end of each episode are the REAL episode numbers.

This show just blows me away with each epsiode seriously. I can't imagine what this would be like if we didin't hear Kyon's thoughts on everything around him. Not only that but that dance they do in the ending animation is kick-arse.
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I know it isn't pornography, or "hentai" so to speak... It's just that, if I watch it, and it shows something like that, I don't know what my mom or brother will think it is... *sigh*

Oh, By the way, Im NightmareBassX. New screen name. YO!



Posted by Zeta

The word you're looking for is 'ecchi'.

The term ecchi is applied to anime or manga that has vague sexual content (such as skimpy clothing, partial or full nudity), but does not show sexual intercourse.




Posted by Apathetic

Can you even buy this anime anywhere?




Posted by NightmareBassX


Quoting Zeta: The word you're looking for is 'ecchi'.

The term ecchi is applied to anime or manga that has vague sexual content (such as skimpy clothing, partial or full nudity), but does not show sexual intercourse.

Heh, Yeah... I found that out afterwards, but didn't really edit. I actually watched episode 2 (Or 1) and episode 3 (Or 2) and I thought they were great. I actually find myself enjoying this show alot. What comes after 3?



Posted by Filarrh

Teh List (Although I could have just directed you to wikipedia...)

Episode 1 - Mikuru Asahina's Adventure: 1 by episode order, 11 chronologically
Episode 2 - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya I: 2 by episode order, 1 chronologically
Episode 3 - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya II: 3 by episode order, 2 chronologically
Episode 4 - The Boredom of Haruhi Suzumiya: 4 by episode order, 7 chronologically
Episode 5 - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya III: 5 by episode order, 3 chronologically
Episode 6 - Remote Island Syndrome (Part One): 6 by episode order, 9 chronologically
Episode 7 - Mysterique Sign: 7 by episode order, 8 chronologically
Episode 8 - Remote Island Syndrome (Part Two): 8 by episode order, 10 chronologically
Episode 9 - Someday in the Rain: 9 by episode order, 14 chronologically
Episode 10 - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya IV: 10 by episode order, 4 chronologically
Episode 11 - The Day of Sagittarius: 11 by episode order, 13 chronologically
Episode 12 - Live Alive: 12 by episode order, 12 chronologically
Episode 13 - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya V: 13 by episode order, 5 chronologically
Episode 14 - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya VI: 14 by episode order, 6 chronologically

So, you should watch 5 next, if you watched 2 and 3 already, and then 11. However, since 13 (5 chronologically) and 14 (6 chronologically) aren't released yet, you may find yourself stuck until around next week.

EDIT: Does this work too?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Melancholy_of_Haruhi_Suzumiya_episodes
I guess I ended up sending you to wiki anyway...




Posted by Ant

No, watch them in the order that the show goes normally. IT'S THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE!




Posted by Malevolence


Quoting Ant: No, watch them in the order that the show goes normally. IT'S THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE!

Do you honestly suggest it? It looks partly confusing, but it would make sense.



Posted by boomstick

Is this available in the US, yet or is the only way of actually getting it through downloads?




Posted by Stalolin

[quote=boomstick]Is this available in the US, yet or is the only way of actually getting it through downloads?

Download only.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Do you honestly suggest it? It looks partly confusing, but it would make sense.


Yes. I would suggest it. Then watch it in chronological order.



Posted by Arcadios

I looked at some pics and it looks intresting.
Does anyone know a site where I can get the episode or where do you get yours?




Posted by Stalolin

[quote=Mr.Nintendo]I looked at some pics and it looks intresting.
Does anyone know a site where I can get the episode or where do you get yours?

If you've got a torrent program then you can get all 14 episodes from here, http://a.scarywater.net/afk/




Posted by Arcadios

Crap I don't have the torrent program.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Then download one LOL




Posted by Arcadios

I downladed it now, does it take long for the episode to be downloaded?




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

It could take one hour or a couple of days.




Posted by Stalolin

[quote=Mr.Nintendo]I downladed it now, does it take long for the episode to be downloaded?

Considering the torrents are still pretty active you may be able to get quite a few in a day.




Posted by Arcadios

I downlaoded episode one but it only gives me audio with no video.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Try these: http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=haruhi+suzumiya&ext=&op=and

They all worked fine for me.




Posted by Stalolin

[quote=Mr.Nintendo]I downlaoded episode one but it only gives me audio with no video.

Try running the episode with something like Divx or JetAudio.

Google them, I myself prefer JetAudio, but Divx should work as well.




Posted by Grave Wisdom

Been meaning to check this anime out for some time. I'll probably download it over the next couple days.




Posted by Arcadios


Quoting Emperor Vampiro: It could take one hour or a couple of days.


I thought he was just kidding.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

open your ports, nub. guaranteed that's why it's going so slow. Hell, I just downloaded the last five episodes in about an hour.




Posted by Arcadios

Well I watched the first episode after work and I lol'd alot so I'm gonna keep on watching them.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

spoilers: first episode is nothing like the rest. Which is neither good or bad. It's just a fact.




Posted by Malevolence


Quoting Emperor Vampiro: spoilers: first episode is nothing like the rest. Which is neither good or bad. It's just a fact.

Heh. I liked the REAL first episode alot.

[URL="http://www.cccp-project.net/download.php"]Maybe you should download this Mr.N. [/URL] It is a codec pack for most common video players (WMP, Realplayer, etc.) that makes it so anime is viewable on them. Maybe it will work...



Posted by Klarth

I just downloaded the whole series. Okay, so whould I watch them in release order or chronological order?




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Seriously, chronological. Watching it by the air date ****ed me off because it's like reading spoilers... without it actually making sense.

Make sure to watch Episode 00 first though.




Posted by Klarth

Episode 00, what the hell? I've got 01 to 14.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Episode 00 is like... episode 13 or something

edit: 11




Posted by Klarth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Melancholy_of_Haruhi_Suzumiya_episodes

Wiki says it doesn't exist.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

First one. Right thurr: "Mikuru Asahina's Adventure - Episode 00"

Airs first, called 00, but actually episode 11.




Posted by Klarth

Alright, watching time.




Posted by Zeta

Part of the music played in the first episode reminded me of MegaMan X music. Boomer Kuwanger's stage, to be precise.

lol watching via YouTube.




Posted by Klarth

Alright, I'm about to finish watching Chronological Episode 01/00/whatever. I laughed heartily at the "LOLI FACE WITH BIG BREASTS" bit.

edit: okay, the opening to the ending credits song sounds just like something out of MMX.




Posted by Arcadios

I've just finished watching them in the episode order and I really like the anime.
Too bad it isn't longer. :(




Posted by Klarth

I'm going to watch them all in twelve hours or so.

*realisation dawns that he's spending 16 hours a day in front of his computer*

...Coooool.




Posted by Unite

Hmm a interesting series, hopefully they will make a second season.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

They probably will. There's more than enough story and manga to go on.




Posted by NeXidala

Hey, I need help I went to this site:
http://www.bittorrent.com/index.html
and dowloaded Bit Torrent
Then I went to this site:
http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=...ya&ext=&op=and
and tried to download one of the episodes but it said (You need software like uTorrent, BitComet or Azureus for this link to start P2P download)
Even AFTER I dowlaoded Bit Torrent....can anyone help me please!!!!




Posted by Arczu

Problem one: It's not exactly P2P like Kazaa in the first place. Get the ".torrent" file and load it into your Bit Torrent client.

I finished watching and I have to say, quite the concept. I really haven't seen anything like this is a very, very long time (if not ever). I really hope they do bring more of it. (Come on, there is NO way you couldn't!)




Posted by NeXidala

I had to download some other things like the video player Bit Torrent and Bit Comet but it's starting to download. Thanks Arczu.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Don't use Bit Torrent.




Posted by NeXidala


Quoting Vampiro: Don't use Bit Torrent.

Nah, it's ok. I fixed it and they are all dowlaoding right now. :D
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I saw the first episode in chronilogical order and I gotta say it was so funny! I can't wait to watch the rest! Do you know if they are going to make more than 14 episodes?



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: Nah, it's ok. I fixed it and they are all dowlaoding right now.


I'm just saying, it's a pretty bad program compared to others that are out there.



Posted by boomstick

I actually did enjoy it quite abit, very funny and quirky with nice characters, though I'm just checking, is there for sure only 14 episodes, after I completed the series it seems that there was no actual closure:

[SPOILER]Like, we never actually find out anything about whether she is, in fact, *** or ***-like entity or anything else about the whole 3 years incident[/SPOILER]

Well, anyway, not a big deal if not, still a very good and fun series, hopefully it's get continued more and brought over to America, I'd like to see the manga.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Yeah, there's definitely only 14 so far.




Posted by boomstick


Quoting Vampiro: Yeah, there's definitely only 14 so far.


Oh, wow, so I guess they never go into any actual details about that stuff, huh, that makes me want to read the manga even more, to see if there's any extra takes on that stuff in them



Posted by NeXidala

Well, Boomstick there is a manga on The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, but it's all Japenese with no translation.




Posted by Klarth

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Use Azureus - most tweakable, fastest bt client around. I actually use TorrentFlux because it can run remotely, but what the hell.

I just watched chrono 4/anachrono 10. Pretty interesting!




Posted by boomstick


Quoting NeXidala: Well, Boomstick there is a manga on The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, but it's all Japenese with no translation.


Yea, I know, that's why I said I hope it comes to America, but I dunno, I hope it will, but I dunno if it actually will and if it does stay to it's true original form.



Posted by NeXidala


Quoting boomstick: Yea, I know, that's why I said I hope it comes to America, but I dunno, I hope it will, but I dunno if it actually will and if it does stay to it's true original form.

I'm sure there will be more, they just can't end it there is too much things that were left unsolved. I really do hope they make more even if we still have to watch it with straight up Japanese and English sub-titles. lol.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: even if we still have to watch it with straight up Japanese and English sub-titles. lol.


That's, unfortunately, the only way to watch anime. It's so rare that dubs are good, that subs are pretty much the only worthwhile way to watch it.



Posted by NeXidala


Quoting Vampiro: That's, unfortunately, the only way to watch anime. It's so rare that dubs are good, that subs are pretty much the only worthwhile way to watch it.

Yeah, that's the way we gotta watch The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzimiya but I've gotten pretty used to it and I like hearing Japanese and stuff and I might learn a couple of words. :D
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BTW- In The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzimiya I noticed that they somehow just used English words when speaking, like in the 2nd episode where Kyon goes "Goodbye Haruihi.....'Forever'!" When he says Forever he just says it in English....why is that?



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

They tend to borrow words from other languages, much like english does. Sometimes this includes entire phrases.




Posted by NeXidala


Quoting Vampiro: They tend to borrow words from other languages, much like english does. Sometimes this includes entire phrases.

Ohhhh! See? I didn't know that lol.



Posted by loathing

guys i have a question regarding haruhi suzumiya:

why is it so ass-terrible?

oh wait, i think i know! it's because it's poorly written and stiffly animated schlock that spends half of it's 14 episodes going absolutely nowhere and then rushes to conclude in the final two! even better, it's chock full of references to literature and pop culture that just screams "hey guys, we know things." oh, and the fanservice!! even better. not only am i insulted intellectually by the dialogue, shallow characters, and dumb references, i have mikuru's tits being slung in my face every 5 minutes. thanks guys!

everyone involved in the creation of this and anyone who enjoys it needs full lobotomy as fast as possible. have standards in anime fallen this low??




Posted by Klarth

I think it's a lot better than everything out there right now - Hell, I'd rather watch this than Bleach/Naruto/DBZ/any other trainwreck of an anime that runs longer than 26 eps.

I'm watching it chronologically and not in the order of broadcast. It'd be ****ing stupid to do otherwise.




Posted by loathing

yeah i love the whole "oh **** guys our climax is in the middle of the story, let's jumble things around and say we did it for a reason" thing going on there.

it's still shit!




Posted by NeXidala


Quoting loathing: yeah i love the whole "oh **** guys our climax is in the middle of the story, let's jumble things around and say we did it for a reason" thing going on there.

it's still shit!

If you hate it so much, why are you wasting your time writing so here? Isn't easier just to stop watching it and pick another anime to watch instead of getting all mad about it? Geez people these days make everything so difficult.



Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

I thought the animation and writing were some of the best. But whatevs.




Posted by loathing

i'm talking about it because it's my goddamned right to talk about things. i've seen the whole thing, i'm sorry, i can't erase it from my memory and then go watch something else. if you figure out how to do that, please let me know, i would greatly appreciate it.

as for the animation. . . what? excepting the battle scenes (which were very well done) everything is so stiff and dull. nothing really POPS out at you and keeps you interested, unless you really dig on fanservice. it feels like GONZO did this or something. if you want amazing animation, look to Studio 4C or Production IG's work. this isn't the place for it. this is medium-budget scholck TV anime, and it shows. no style, no movement, no energy to it at all. they saved all the budget for the action scenes and it shows.

the writing is fine, it's just not that great. it's not really all that sharp or interesting, you know. i'm not sitting there watching it going "oh man this is really terrible" or anything, but i'm not, you know, laughing at any of the jokes, finding any of the pseudoscientific babbling all that compelling, etc. the characters are just so devoid of personality. haruhi yells a lot and is emotional, yuki is stoic and smart, mikuru is sickeningly cute and just slings her knockers around the whole time. kyon is your stock anime protagonist, and keichii talks WAY TOO MUCH. every time he appears on screen i thought "time for another rant! how many philosophic movements will he name-drop this time?"

if anything, haruhi takes the stock characters of the high-school harem anime to their extremes. we have the loud girl, the quiet nerd, the sweet innocent girl (who happens to have breasts bigger than her head), and the main character who is stuck in between the three of them. except each one is just exaggerated to the point of ridiculousness. if satire of high-school drama anime was what they were going for, that's great, but why bog it down with all this pseudoscience and philosophical nonsense?

likewise, if you are going to make compelling sci-fi, don't stuff it with flaccid, one-dimensional characters that are uninteresting, and at worst (mikuru) incredibly annoying.




Posted by Ant

The animation is great. If you want an example of such look at my sig.

I'm not going to make a long post out of it. But I liked the show. It was different then anything else I've ever seen thus far. And I, for one, like how the director decided to put the episodes out of order. Although confusing at first. It keeps the story full of suspence the entire way through.




Posted by loathing

ok, so the intro and the action scenes are well animated.

still shows absolutely no imagination on the part of the animators. bland bland bland bland bland.




Posted by Ant

The story itself is imagination enough. Although there weren't enough giant robots.




Posted by loathing

that's another thing. there is a really good concept behind this whole thing! they just go nowhere with it! i know you guys would just yell at me and delete my post if i attempted to actually explain this point, as i'd spoil the entire thing, but i just felt like the last 2 episodes really dropped the ball.




Posted by Ant

I personally thought it brought the series to a close really well. It answers all the questions that needed to be answered, or mattered, anyways. THUS WHY THE DIRECTOR ENEDED THE SERIES THE WAY IT WAS!

And no, don't be affraid to explain yourself.




Posted by Xenos

Just put it in spoiler tags.




Posted by NeXidala

Question.....Even though Kyon pretty much said he didn't like Haruhi Suzimuaya in a "love" way, who here thinks he secretly does like her in that way?




Posted by Ant

Well, he basically says in the last episode(6) that he actually likes how Haruhi acts and how she is adventurous and all that. So yeah, he does for sure. But I don't think he acts upon it because he doesn't want to ruin the relationship he has with her as friends. And so he doesn't feel guilty for gawking at Mikuru's tits ;)




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire


Quoted post: And so he doesn't feel guilty for gawking at Mikuru's tits


He all ready does, so it would just be worse I guess.



Posted by NeXidala


Quoting Ant: Well, he basically says in the last episode(6) that he actually likes how Haruhi acts and how she is adventurous and all that. So yeah, he does for sure. But I don't think he acts upon it because he doesn't want to ruin the relationship he has with her as friends. And so he doesn't feel guilty for gawking at Mikuru's tits ;)

Lol, I notice in his thoughts he finds almost every girl attractive, even Nagato once in a while. But I think he just feels something special for Haruhi Suzumiya, which I think is cool. :D



Posted by Xenos

I surrender and I am now torrenting it.




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

Took you long enough.




Posted by Klarth

Watch it in chronological order and stop as soon as you've seen episode 6.




Posted by Ant

If you actually want to enjoy the series to it's fullest...then watch it in the order that the episodes came out.




Posted by NeXidala


Quoting Klarth: Watch it in chronological order and stop as soon as you've seen episode 6.

I've only seen up to episode 6 because I haven't dowloaded the rest but....why stop at episode 6?



Posted by Ant

Because the rest are "fillers" but each IMO have their own little bits of information that make the series much more indepth. And add more life to the characters within.

The director of the show made it the way it is for a reason.




Posted by Xenos

I liked episodes 12 - 14 out of the series.

Huzzah.




Posted by Klarth

The "filler" eps are fun and all, but... Eh. I did kinda like the two-parter one with the island and all, though.




Posted by NeXidala


Quoting Xenos: I liked episodes 12 - 14 out of the series.

Huzzah.

My favorite episode was definately episode 14. It was a really good episode in my opinion, and the best out of them all.



Posted by Ant


Quoting Klarth: The "filler" eps are fun and all, but... Eh. I did kinda like the two-parter one with the island and all, though.


The style of that one was really quite splendid. The way they used real people with the odd coloring paterns. Something very different that ended up being pretty cool looking.

Episode 11 is one of my favorites actually. The computer animation was superb. And at the end where it shows Yuki doing the typing on the book shows that she actually has interests of her own. Like I said earlier, the "filler" episodes add more to the characters in the show. :cool:



Posted by Ant

UPDATE!

http://kurogane.animeblogger.net/2006/08/08/rejoice-my-fellow-haruhiists/

HARUHI SEASON TWO IS COMING! These happy days or yours and mine!




Posted by Vampiro V. Empire

****ing badass. It was a given though. It couldn't just end.




Posted by NeXidala


Quoting Ant: UPDATE!

http://kurogane.animeblogger.net/2006/08/08/rejoice-my-fellow-haruhiists/

HARUHI SEASON TWO IS COMING! These happy days or yours and mine!

*Halleluja Chorus in the background*



Posted by boomstick


Quoting Kurogane's Anime Blog: And so, it turns out that it’s just pure marketing plot by Newtype, announcing the release of the 2nd DVD of Haruhi. *** **** it you bastards, don’t make such a confusing cover.


That's too bad, I was actually getting my hopes up and all.



Posted by NeXidala

Ok, so now I'm all confused. Is season 2 coming out. Yes or No?




Posted by Ant

official? no. But I would be HIGHLY surprised if there wasn't.




Posted by NeXidala

I would be surprised, too. The first season had way too much success for them to just cut it short. Plus, a second season would be very much appreciated. :D




Posted by boomstick


Quoting NeXidala: Ok, so now I'm all confused. Is season 2 coming out. Yes or No?


Like Vampiro, I think it's very likely we'll be seeing a 2nd season, but I was just pointing out that the link Ant posted was updated to say that it's not announced yet, it was the 2nd DVD that the magazine was pushing



Posted by NeXidala

Oh, I guess that clears things up. I just finished watching all 14 episodes today, and I gotta say, this has to be one of my favorite animes ever. I loved all the detail they put into each episode, and not only that, but it's hella-funny. Can't wait to get some news on Season 2.




Posted by Klarth

You know what would kick ***?

A full-length Haruhi movie.




Posted by boomstick


Quoting Klarth: You know what would kick ***?

A full-length Haruhi movie.


If the series continues in popularity if they decide to continue(very likely) I can't say I don't doubt a movie eventually.



Posted by NeXidala

Me neither. But they may use the movie to end the series or something of the sort.