Topic under debate: This guy thinks that: "A believer is a bird in a cage. A freethinker is an eagle parting the clouds with tireless wing", and he also thknks that he is a freethinker. Apart from the stupid metaphor, he is unable to defend himself with anything other than 'omg im a freethinker so im right and ur wrong!11!", even when I repeat his own arguments against him.
n00b says:
hmmm.......it seems liek you're back to get owned again
higbvuyb says:
You're not a freethinker: You are limited by your experiences, from which you draw your thoughts, you are unable to create something completely new
n00b says:
i could create somethign new by killing all Asians
n00b says:
it'd be called "white australian
n00b says:
day
higbvuyb says:
No, killing is not a new concept
n00b says:
killing asians in australia is because you guys deserve it
n00b says:
plus, you are ignorant and i propose a genocide of ingnorance
higbvuyb says:
No, it is not a new concept: It must be done in a universe, and in space-time, and neither a universe or space-time are new concepts
higbvuyb says:
You cannot think of something fundamentally new
n00b says:
first of all you don't even know what you just said because
higbvuyb says:
You are limited to a real number of spce-time dimensions
n00b says:
1) if it was impossible to do anything new than you'd wouldn't have been born
n00b says:
because nobdoy has ever given birth to a higbvuyb in melbourne before
higbvuyb says:
I mean, something is new in concept
n00b says:
yeah
n00b says:
the concept of giving birth to you
higbvuyb says:
no, but giving birth is a part of that idea, and that is not new
n00b says:
pwned
n00b says:
it isn't part of the idea
n00b says:
IT IS THE IDEA
higbvuyb says:
something had to be built upon something else
higbvuyb says:
That 'idea' was built upon the idea of somethign giving birth
higbvuyb says:
which is not new
higbvuyb says:
therefore it is not completely new
n00b says:
no, the idea of it was new
n00b says:
i understand that you have no understanding of this becasue you are asian
higbvuyb says:
you cannot create something completely different
higbvuyb says:
birth is not new
n00b says:
and you needed a whole day just to think up an arguement to make a comeback at me
higbvuyb says:
it is not a new concept
n00b says:
birth to you is though
higbvuyb says:
no, i typed that yesterday but you logged off
higbvuyb says:
you tried to avoid getting owned
higbvuyb says:
lol!
n00b says:
sure, everybody believes you higbvuyb
n00b says:
and even if that wasn't a new i dea
n00b says:
i have a better one
higbvuyb says:
what
n00b says:
using biomechanics to remove the 'gay gene'
n00b says:
no research has ever been done into it befor
higbvuyb says:
Biomechanics, a fundamental element of your idea, is not new either, you've built upon existing ideas
higbvuyb says:
You must think of somethign that does not take place within a universe, because universes are old ideas
n00b says:
it is in the context of what i am proposing though and that makes it new
higbvuyb says:
No, it is not completely new because biotechnology is an old concept
higbvuyb says:
therefore that part of it is not new
n00b says:
it isn't an old concept by any stretch of the imagination and that isn't the focus of the concept anyway
n00b says:
removing the gene and changing somebodies sexual orientation is
n00b says:
i can see why you are debating this though
n00b says:
because you need your gay gene removed
higbvuyb says:
can you read?
n00b says:
in fact donate some money right away and i can get started on research
n00b says:
and then we can fix you
higbvuyb says:
I said that the biotechnology part of it is not new
higbvuyb says:
so not all of it is new
higbvuyb says:
the gay part is not new either
higbvuyb says:
or the gene part
n00b says:
the question is can you read?
higbvuyb says:
all of its fundamental parts are old
higbvuyb says:
it has to be completely new
n00b says:
the gen part is becasue liek i said nobody has ever researched into it before
higbvuyb says:
it cannot take place wqithin a universe because the concept of a universe it not new
n00b says:
see, you're backtrakcin now because you know you're beat
higbvuyb says:
I'm not saying that the entirety has to be new
higbvuyb says:
every single concept making it up has to be new
higbvuyb says:
the concept of a 'gay' person has to be new
n00b says:
it is because nobody knows 100 % if it exists, but in theory it is bulletproof
higbvuyb says:
Read again: every single individual concept making it up has to be new
n00b says:
yeah the new part would be transmografying it into nothingness
n00b says:
take that *****'
n00b says:
pwned
higbvuyb says:
false
higbvuyb says:
the concept of a 'gay' person is not new in your idea
higbvuyb says:
therfore not all of its individual underlying concepts is new
higbvuyb says:
Read again: every single individual concept making it up has to be new
n00b says:
not the concept of a gay person but the concept of thjeir orientation being caused by a gene is
higbvuyb says:
NO.
higbvuyb says:
your idea contains the concept of a gay person
n00b says:
not every single concept would have to be new for it original anyway
higbvuyb says:
wrong. I mean totally different
n00b says:
how do you think fireofx came to be?
higbvuyb says:
Your mind has to be free from the limits of this universe
higbvuyb says:
you cannot reate somethign totally new, as i said, you must build on somethign already there
n00b says:
no, it doesn't because nobody can have a mind free from this universe
higbvuyb says:
*create
n00b says:
it's impossible
higbvuyb says:
EXACTLY
higbvuyb says:
Nobody can have a mind free from this universe
higbvuyb says:
thus you are limited in your thinking
higbvuyb says:
So, you are in your own, though large, cage
n00b says:
no, because if you needed a mind free form this universe then how did creations liek the internet and so forth come to be?
higbvuyb says:
No, those creations were 'new' in some sense, bbut they built on something else; they were nto totally new
n00b says:
i am free and you are not because you think that for soemthing to be creative you need to have a mind no 'limited' by this universe
higbvuyb says:
No. Creativity is a different concept
higbvuyb says:
you are ultimately limited in your thinking by this universe, that is your cage
n00b says:
see, you've spen this whole convo trying to tell me creation is one concept but now you've changed your mind
higbvuyb says:
however large, you still are caged
n00b says:
no, because the universe is not something that can limit you
higbvuyb says:
prove it
higbvuyb says:
it limits you to thinking in dimensions, and the concept of a dimension is nto new
n00b says:
you could build some ****ign big space ship and leave this universe but once you're in a religeon you can't 'in-believe'
higbvuyb says:
I'm not talking about that part
higbvuyb says:
I'm saying that nobody is a free-thinker at all
n00b says:
yes you were
n00b says:
that was what i just said and you disagreed
higbvuyb says:
everyone, including christians, are nto free-thinkers
higbvuyb says:
So, the second part of your quote is invalid because there is no such thing as a true freethinker
n00b says:
i am a free thinker because i proposed that you can think outside thisa universe and it's so called 'limitations'
higbvuyb says:
well, think outside the concepts of this universe then
n00b says:
ha, you just admitted it
higbvuyb says:
you cannot use dimensions, physical existence, etc in your thinking then
n00b says:
yeah, you can
n00b says:
you couldn't because you are not a free thinker
n00b says:
i am and i can think up whatever i want
higbvuyb says:
create an idea, then, outside any concept in this universe
higbvuyb says:
go, show me one
higbvuyb says:
you can't
higbvuyb says:
atoms are concept of this universe
higbvuyb says:
you cant use them
n00b says:
i did a while back but you ignored it, secondly if i were to do so you wouldn't understand it because i am free and you are not therfore you wouldn't be able to grasp the concept
higbvuyb says:
ha, you know you've lost you you';re giving excuses
n00b says:
yeah, a concept of THIS universe maybe not of othersa
higbvuyb says:
nor can you use: dimensions, space, time, gravity, etc
n00b says:
so therfoe you can think up a concept outside of this univewrse
higbvuyb says:
sahow me such an idea
higbvuyb says:
you can't, lol
higbvuyb says:
owned
n00b says:
liek i said , you are a cage bird and would not be able to graps such a concept because you don't have a free ming
n00b says:
mind
higbvuyb says:
owned
higbvuyb says:
n00b
higbvuyb says:
ha, excuses, excuses
n00b says:
therfore you have no evidence that you can;t think outside of this universe
higbvuyb says:
yes, I do
n00b says:
liek what?
higbvuyb says:
wheres your proof, show me first
n00b says:
like i said you have no proof that you can't think outside the universe therfore you CAN think outside the iuniverse
higbvuyb says:
THe proof is that all ideas from this universe are limited in the way the universe is limited, concepts build infinitely on other concepts, so a totally new thought must be infinitely complex, somethign that one cannot understand
higbvuyb says:
you cannot understand anything infinite in real terms
higbvuyb says:
You lose
n00b says:
you are backtracking agin, let me explain the concepts of this universe may very well be limited but the concepts of another one aren't
higbvuyb says:
so? a 'universe' is an old concept, also. YOu cannot use a universe in a new concept
n00b says:
then i'll call it a new wored making it a new concept because it would therfore differ slightly
higbvuyb says:
I'm not backtracking, I'm pointing out how the base of my argument owns yours
n00b says:
the base of your arguement crumples like you in front of girls
n00b says:
because
higbvuyb says:
No. Anythign that differs silghtly from something else means it has similaritles to other things, which means it is not entirely new
n00b says:
you have no proof that you can't think outside oif this universe
n00b says:
no, if it differs it doesn't have similarities, and anyway my universe wouldn;t be the same in any way
higbvuyb says:
I've just said it, show me how it is false
higbvuyb says:
YES IT WOULD BE SIMILAR IN SOME WAY: THAT THEY ARE BOTH UNIVERSES
n00b says:
because you haev no evidence to suggest that you can't think poutside this universe
higbvuyb says:
that is a similarity
n00b says:
it would be differen tfrom a universe
n00b says:
if only by definition of word
higbvuyb says:
I don't mean outside only this universe, I mean outside all current concepts. This universe is a current concept
higbvuyb says:
okay, shwo me your concept you've thought about
n00b says:
yeah, but you're missing the point
n00b says:
mine would be a universe
higbvuyb says:
because if you havent thinought of it yet, that's more proof that it doesn'tr exist
n00b says:
i have thoguh of it though
higbvuyb says:
IT WOULD BE A UNIVERSE, THEREFORE IT IS SIMILAR TO THIS UNIVERSE BECAUSE IT IS A UNIVERSE
higbvuyb says:
tell me, then
n00b says:
making me a free thinker and yiu a caged bid
higbvuyb says:
tell me, then
higbvuyb says:
okay, I'ver though of a perfect proof for my argument, but just like you, I won't tell you what it is
higbvuyb says:
you'
higbvuyb says:
ve lost until you can tell me
n00b says:
if you won't tell me then you haven't thought it upo at all
higbvuyb says:
exactly, you havent thought up your idea at all, either
n00b says:
so please go home and cry to Richie and your LAN buddie because you just got your **** ruined
n00b says:
i have
higbvuyb says:
exactly, you havent thought up your idea at all, either
owned
higbvuyb says:
tell me, then
higbvuyb says:
if you cant it means you havent thought of one
n00b says:
you said either therefore admitting that you have no 'perfect proof'
n00b says:
i have but it can't be explained to you untill you agree with me therefore signalling that you are a free thinker by disagreeing with me you are showing that you are a cage dcbird
higbvuyb says:
wrong
n00b says:
and cannot think otuside the realms of what you have been taught by others
higbvuyb says:
you're stalling aghain
higbvuyb says:
If i believe what you say is true, I'm limited in my thinking by my belief that that is true, which is a contradiction
higbvuyb says:
so one cannot be a freethinker
higbvuyb says:
yuo believe that you a re a freethinker? Then you're limited by the fact that you are limited in your beliefs to the concept that you are a freethinker
higbvuyb says:
owned
higbvuyb says:
your silence proves that you knwo you/ve lost
n00b says:
no, because i f i am a freethinker then i am not limited in anyway
higbvuyb says:
but, you're not, so you are limited
n00b says:
i can choose to believe otherwise but i don't want to
higbvuyb says:
owned
n00b says:
no, like i said i can choose anyway i want and by continuing this arguement you are just proving that you are limited to what you arwe taught by others bnot what you thin yourslef
higbvuyb says:
No, you're demonstrating that you're lmited in your thinking
n00b says:
therefor you can't believe in free thinker becasue you are not a freethinker
n00b says:
owned
higbvuyb says:
you are unable to prove your case
higbvuyb says:
owned
n00b says:
how am i limited/
n00b says:
?
n00b says:
prove it
higbvuyb says:
you cant be a freethinker because you believe in freethinkers, limiting you to a conceptual world where freethinkers exist
higbvuyb says:
prove your argument
higbvuyb says:
you claimed it, you have the burden of proof
n00b says:
no, like i said i can choose not to be a freethinker but i don't want to
higbvuyb says:
you claimed it, you have the burden of proof
if you don't prove it your claim is not true
n00b says:
i have proved it many times in the last 2o minutes all of which you have ignored because you are a caged bird and your ignorance blinded you from seeing my proof
n00b says:
owned
n00b says:
he's down
n00b says:
10
n00b says:
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higbvuyb says:
no
n00b says:
6.......
n00b says:
5.........
n00b says:
4..........
n00b says:
3........
higbvuyb says:
if you've proved it
n00b says:
2........
higbvuyb says:
prove it again
n00b says:
1.......
higbvuyb says:
you can't
n00b says:
i ame the winner
higbvuyb says:
you lose
higbvuyb says:
you lose, OWNED!
higbvuyb says:
you cant prove it
higbvuyb says:
ha
higbvuyb says:
show me the proof now if you can
higbvuyb says:
now
higbvuyb says:
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n00b says:
i did several times and i don't need to do it again just liek a boxer doesn't need to knock somebody out twice
higbvuyb says:
you lose
n00b says:
i did it once
higbvuyb says:
wrong
higbvuyb says:
show me the proof then
n00b says:
and don't need to do it again becasue you lsit
n00b says:
I ALKREADY HAVE
higbvuyb says:
i've shown you my proof, but youyr ignorance stopped you from understanding it
higbvuyb says:
ive dont it many times
higbvuyb says:
you just don't understand in your blissful ignorance
higbvuyb says:
its in the list
n00b says:
youi admitted that you didn't have pefect proof remember? you said "you don't have proof EITHER"
n00b says:
you rolled yourself
higbvuyb says:
just like a boxer doesnt need to knock someone down twice, i dont have to prove it twice
higbvuyb says:
i said that if i hypothetically didnt have proof
higbvuyb says:
that was implied
higbvuyb says:
you lose
n00b says:
you neve proved it because you admitted to not haing proof
higbvuyb says:
wrong
higbvuyb says:
anyway, i had a proof after which i showed you
higbvuyb says:
but you were too ignorant to understand it
n00b says:
you had no proof hypothetically and factually
higbvuyb says:
in your limited thinking
higbvuyb says:
wrong
higbvuyb says:
you're to limited in your thinking to understand that i proved it
n00b says:
you a caged bird and no amount of "you lose" and "owned" and "you're wrong" can save you
higbvuyb says:
proof by contradition
higbvuyb says:
you a caged bird and no amount of "you lose" and "owned" and "you're wrong" can save YOU
n00b says:
there os no such thing
higbvuyb says:
yes
n00b says:
YOU ADMITTED IT
n00b says:
YOU ARE WRONG
n00b says:
i win
higbvuyb says:
wrong
higbvuyb says:
its true
higbvuyb says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
higbvuyb says:
you're so limited in your thinking you cant even consider it in your limited mind
n00b says:
don't link to an article that you most likely wrote yourself
higbvuyb says:
wrong
higbvuyb says:
look at the editing history
higbvuyb says:
zimmer.csufresno.edu/~larryc/ proofs/proofs.contradict.html
n00b says:
liek i mentioned before i can choose not to be limited or i can choose to eb limited i have a choice and i choose to not be limited
higbvuyb says:
mathworld.wolfram.com/ProofbyContradiction.html -
higbvuyb says:
delphiforfun.org/Programs/ Math_Topics/proof_by_contradiction.htm
higbvuyb says:
wroing
higbvuyb says:
you are limtied
n00b says:
i don't need to read an articvle by a caged bird liek you
higbvuyb says:
ive given my proof, wheres your? nowhere? owned
higbvuyb says:
i dodn't write it
higbvuyb says:
your so limiteed you cant even consider that
higbvuyb says:
owned
n00b says:
my proof is in every sentenc eof this convo
higbvuyb says:
no, your to limited to give a real proof
n00b says:
i considered it because i replied and ruined your ****
higbvuyb says:
my proof, however, is evedent in every oen fo my arguments
higbvuyb says:
no, i replied and ruined you
higbvuyb says:
owned
higbvuyb says:
you lose
higbvuyb says:
you're a failure
higbvuyb says:
many people, far smarter than you, know you're wrong
higbvuyb says:
you lose
higbvuyb says:
you're a failure
higbvuyb says:
you are unable to think 'freely' even within small cocept
n00b says:
you are just repeating the signals that you've owned yourself so i shall choose (because i am a free thinker and i can choose to do anything) to be the bigger man, the man without a comb ovver or receeding hair line and own you oncve mroe
higbvuyb says:
you cant even think inside a large cage
higbvuyb says:
you need a small cage to trap your simple thjoughts
higbvuyb says:
and inablilty to udnerstand simple concepts
n00b says:
nobody is able to think 'freely' within someboy elses concept that;s why i thought up my onw
n00b says:
own
higbvuyb says:
ha, you're being owned so badly you have to resort to insults to try to further your position
n00b says:
i don't NEED to i choose to because i am a freethinker and i do as i please
n00b says:
you are not and by argueing you prove that you are caged and nothin you say can make me take you seriously
n00b says:
given that silence i win, i bid you a good day and i hope you don't cry too much
higbvuyb says:
ha
higbvuyb says:
you obviously still dont understand
*Other guy leaves*
kay clam down
n00b says:you got a charmander.
princess43653 says:oh i know
n00b says:not that only one that i said.
princess43653 says:no.
n00b says:you got a fart ***.hahaha...:D
princess43653 says:*farted*
n00b says:you funny about it.
princess43653 says:grrrrrrrrrrrr
n00b says:okay
princess43653 says:okay now i geted up you dumb ***
n00b says:
hmmm.......it seems liek you're back to get owned again
higbvuyb says:
You're not a freethinker: You are limited by your experiences, from which you draw your thoughts, you are unable to create something completely new
n00b says:
i could create somethign new by killing all Asians
n00b says:
it'd be called "white australian
n00b says:
day
higbvuyb says:
No, killing is not a new concept
n00b says:
killing asians in australia is because you guys deserve it
n00b says:
plus, you are ignorant and i propose a genocide of ingnorance
higbvuyb says:
No, it is not a new concept: It must be done in a universe, and in space-time, and neither a universe or space-time are new concepts
higbvuyb says:
You cannot think of something fundamentally new
n00b says:
first of all you don't even know what you just said because
higbvuyb says:
You are limited to a real number of spce-time dimensions
n00b says:
1) if it was impossible to do anything new than you'd wouldn't have been born
n00b says:
because nobdoy has ever given birth to a higbvuyb in melbourne before
higbvuyb says:
I mean, something is new in concept
n00b says:
yeah
n00b says:
the concept of giving birth to you
higbvuyb says:
no, but giving birth is a part of that idea, and that is not new
n00b says:
pwned
n00b says:
it isn't part of the idea
n00b says:
IT IS THE IDEA
higbvuyb says:
something had to be built upon something else
higbvuyb says:
That 'idea' was built upon the idea of somethign giving birth
higbvuyb says:
which is not new
higbvuyb says:
therefore it is not completely new
n00b says:
no, the idea of it was new
n00b says:
i understand that you have no understanding of this becasue you are asian
higbvuyb says:
you cannot create something completely different
higbvuyb says:
birth is not new
n00b says:
and you needed a whole day just to think up an arguement to make a comeback at me
higbvuyb says:
it is not a new concept
n00b says:
birth to you is though
higbvuyb says:
no, i typed that yesterday but you logged off
higbvuyb says:
you tried to avoid getting owned
higbvuyb says:
lol!
n00b says:
sure, everybody believes you higbvuyb
n00b says:
and even if that wasn't a new i dea
n00b says:
i have a better one
higbvuyb says:
what
n00b says:
using biomechanics to remove the 'gay gene'
n00b says:
no research has ever been done into it befor
higbvuyb says:
Biomechanics, a fundamental element of your idea, is not new either, you've built upon existing ideas
higbvuyb says:
You must think of somethign that does not take place within a universe, because universes are old ideas
n00b says:
it is in the context of what i am proposing though and that makes it new
higbvuyb says:
No, it is not completely new because biotechnology is an old concept
higbvuyb says:
therefore that part of it is not new
n00b says:
it isn't an old concept by any stretch of the imagination and that isn't the focus of the concept anyway
n00b says:
removing the gene and changing somebodies sexual orientation is
n00b says:
i can see why you are debating this though
n00b says:
because you need your gay gene removed
higbvuyb says:
can you read?
n00b says:
in fact donate some money right away and i can get started on research
n00b says:
and then we can fix you
higbvuyb says:
I said that the biotechnology part of it is not new
higbvuyb says:
so not all of it is new
higbvuyb says:
the gay part is not new either
higbvuyb says:
or the gene part
n00b says:
the question is can you read?
higbvuyb says:
all of its fundamental parts are old
higbvuyb says:
it has to be completely new
n00b says:
the gen part is becasue liek i said nobody has ever researched into it before
higbvuyb says:
it cannot take place wqithin a universe because the concept of a universe it not new
n00b says:
see, you're backtrakcin now because you know you're beat
higbvuyb says:
I'm not saying that the entirety has to be new
higbvuyb says:
every single concept making it up has to be new
higbvuyb says:
the concept of a 'gay' person has to be new
n00b says:
it is because nobody knows 100 % if it exists, but in theory it is bulletproof
higbvuyb says:
Read again: every single individual concept making it up has to be new
n00b says:
yeah the new part would be transmografying it into nothingness
n00b says:
take that *****'
n00b says:
pwned
higbvuyb says:
false
higbvuyb says:
the concept of a 'gay' person is not new in your idea
higbvuyb says:
therfore not all of its individual underlying concepts is new
higbvuyb says:
Read again: every single individual concept making it up has to be new
n00b says:
not the concept of a gay person but the concept of thjeir orientation being caused by a gene is
higbvuyb says:
NO.
higbvuyb says:
your idea contains the concept of a gay person
n00b says:
not every single concept would have to be new for it original anyway
higbvuyb says:
wrong. I mean totally different
n00b says:
how do you think fireofx came to be?
higbvuyb says:
Your mind has to be free from the limits of this universe
higbvuyb says:
you cannot reate somethign totally new, as i said, you must build on somethign already there
n00b says:
no, it doesn't because nobody can have a mind free from this universe
higbvuyb says:
*create
n00b says:
it's impossible
higbvuyb says:
EXACTLY
higbvuyb says:
Nobody can have a mind free from this universe
higbvuyb says:
thus you are limited in your thinking
higbvuyb says:
So, you are in your own, though large, cage
n00b says:
no, because if you needed a mind free form this universe then how did creations liek the internet and so forth come to be?
higbvuyb says:
No, those creations were 'new' in some sense, bbut they built on something else; they were nto totally new
n00b says:
i am free and you are not because you think that for soemthing to be creative you need to have a mind no 'limited' by this universe
higbvuyb says:
No. Creativity is a different concept
higbvuyb says:
you are ultimately limited in your thinking by this universe, that is your cage
n00b says:
see, you've spen this whole convo trying to tell me creation is one concept but now you've changed your mind
higbvuyb says:
however large, you still are caged
n00b says:
no, because the universe is not something that can limit you
higbvuyb says:
prove it
higbvuyb says:
it limits you to thinking in dimensions, and the concept of a dimension is nto new
n00b says:
you could build some ****ign big space ship and leave this universe but once you're in a religeon you can't 'in-believe'
higbvuyb says:
I'm not talking about that part
higbvuyb says:
I'm saying that nobody is a free-thinker at all
n00b says:
yes you were
n00b says:
that was what i just said and you disagreed
higbvuyb says:
everyone, including christians, are nto free-thinkers
higbvuyb says:
So, the second part of your quote is invalid because there is no such thing as a true freethinker
n00b says:
i am a free thinker because i proposed that you can think outside thisa universe and it's so called 'limitations'
higbvuyb says:
well, think outside the concepts of this universe then
n00b says:
ha, you just admitted it
higbvuyb says:
you cannot use dimensions, physical existence, etc in your thinking then
n00b says:
yeah, you can
n00b says:
you couldn't because you are not a free thinker
n00b says:
i am and i can think up whatever i want
higbvuyb says:
create an idea, then, outside any concept in this universe
higbvuyb says:
go, show me one
higbvuyb says:
you can't
princessn00b says:
hmmm.......it seems liek you're back to get owned again
higbvuyb says:
You're not a freethinker: You are limited by your experiences, from which you draw your thoughts, you are unable to create something completely new
n00b says:
i could create somethign new by killing all Asians
n00b says:
it'd be called "white australian
n00b says:
day
higbvuyb says:
No, killing is not a new concept
n00b says:
killing asians in australia is because you guys deserve it
n00b says:
plus, you are ignorant and i propose a genocide of ingnorance
higbvuyb says:
No, it is not a new concept: It must be done in a universe, and in space-time, and neither a universe or space-time are new concepts
higbvuyb says:
You cannot think of something fundamentally new
n00b says:
first of all you don't even know what you just said because
higbvuyb says:
You are limited to a real number of spce-time dimensions
n00b says:
1) if it was impossible to do anything new than you'd wouldn't have been born
n00b says:
because nobdoy has ever given birth to a higbvuyb in melbourne before
higbvuyb says:
I mean, something is new in concept
n00b says:
yeah
n00b says:
the concept of giving birth to you
higbvuyb says:
no, but giving birth is a part of that idea, and that is not new
n00b says:
pwned
n00b says:
it isn't part of the idea
n00b says:
IT IS THE IDEA
higbvuyb says:
something had to be built upon something else
higbvuyb says:
That 'idea' was built upon the idea of somethign giving birth
higbvuyb says:
which is not new
higbvuyb says:
therefore it is not completely new
n00b says:
no, the idea of it was new
n00b says:
i understand that you have no understanding of this becasue you are asian
higbvuyb says:
you cannot create something completely different
higbvuyb says:
birth is not new
n00b says:
and you needed a whole day just to think up an arguement to make a comeback at me
higbvuyb says:
it is not a new concept
n00b says:
birth to you is though
higbvuyb says:
no, i typed that yesterday but you logged off
higbvuyb says:
you tried to avoid getting owned
higbvuyb says:
lol!
n00b says:
sure, everybody believes you higbvuyb
n00b says:
and even if that wasn't a new i dea
n00b says:
i have a better one
higbvuyb says:
what
n00b says:
using biomechanics to remove the 'gay gene'
n00b says:
no research has ever been done into it befor
higbvuyb says:
Biomechanics, a fundamental element of your idea, is not new either, you've built upon existing ideas
higbvuyb says:
You must think of somethign that does not take place within a universe, because universes are old ideas
n00b says:
it is in the context of what i am proposing though and that makes it new
higbvuyb says:
No, it is not completely new because biotechnology is an old concept
higbvuyb says:
therefore that part of it is not new
n00b says:
it isn't an old concept by any stretch of the imagination and that isn't the focus of the concept anyway
n00b says:
removing the gene and changing somebodies sexual orientation is
n00b says:
i can see why you are debating this though
n00b says:
because you need your gay gene removed
higbvuyb says:
can you read?
n00b says:
in fact donate some money right away and i can get started on research
n00b says:
and then we can fix you
higbvuyb says:
I said that the biotechnology part of it is not new
higbvuyb says:
so not all of it is new
higbvuyb says:
the gay part is not new either
higbvuyb says:
or the gene part
n00b says:
the question is can you read?
higbvuyb says:
all of its fundamental parts are old
higbvuyb says:
it has to be completely new
n00b says:
the gen part is becasue liek i said nobody has ever researched into it before
higbvuyb says:
it cannot take place wqithin a universe because the concept of a universe it not new
n00b says:
see, you're backtrakcin now because you know you're beat
higbvuyb says:
I'm not saying that the entirety has to be new
higbvuyb says:
every single concept making it up has to be new
higbvuyb says:
the concept of a 'gay' person has to be new
n00b says:
it is because nobody knows 100 % if it exists, but in theory it is bulletproof
higbvuyb says:
Read again: every single individual concept making it up has to be new
n00b says:
yeah the new part would be transmografying it into nothingness
n00b says:
take that *****'
n00b says:
pwned
higbvuyb says:
false
higbvuyb says:
the concept of a 'gay' person is not new in your idea
higbvuyb says:
therfore not all of its individual underlying concepts is new
higbvuyb says:
Read again: every single individual concept making it up has to be new
n00b says:
not the concept of a gay person but the concept of thjeir orientation being caused by a gene is
higbvuyb says:
NO.
higbvuyb says:
your idea contains the concept of a gay person
n00b says:
not every single concept would have to be new for it original anyway
higbvuyb says:
wrong. I mean totally different
n00b says:
how do you think fireofx came to be?
higbvuyb says:
Your mind has to be free from the limits of this universe
higbvuyb says:
you cannot reate somethign totally new, as i said, you must build on somethign already there
n00b says:
no, it doesn't because nobody can have a mind free from this universe
higbvuyb says:
*create
n00b says:
it's impossible
higbvuyb says:
EXACTLY
higbvuyb says:
Nobody can have a mind free from this universe
higbvuyb says:
thus you are limited in your thinking
higbvuyb says:
So, you are in your own, though large, cage
n00b says:
no, because if you needed a mind free form this universe then how did creations liek the internet and so forth come to be?
higbvuyb says:
No, those creations were 'new' in some sense, bbut they built on something else; they were nto totally new
n00b says:
i am free and you are not because you think that for soemthing to be creative you need to have a mind no 'limited' by this universe
higbvuyb says:
No. Creativity is a different concept
higbvuyb says:
you are ultimately limited in your thinking by this universe, that is your cage
n00b says:
see, you've spen this whole convo trying to tell me creation is one concept but now you've changed your mind
higbvuyb says:
however large, you still are caged
n00b says:
no, because the universe is not something that can limit you
higbvuyb says:
prove it
higbvuyb says:
it limits you to thinking in dimensions, and the concept of a dimension is nto new
n00b says:
you could build some ****ign big space ship and leave this universe but once you're in a religeon you can't 'in-believe'
higbvuyb says:
I'm not talking about that part
higbvuyb says:
I'm saying that nobody is a free-thinker at all
n00b says:
yes you were
n00b says:
that was what i just said and you disagreed
higbvuyb says:
everyone, including christians, are nto free-thinkers
higbvuyb says:
So, the second part of your quote is invalid because there is no such thing as a true freethinker
n00b says:
i am a free thinker because i proposed that you can think outside thisa universe and it's so called 'limitations'
higbvuyb says:
well, think outside the concepts of this universe then
n00b says:
ha, you just admitted it
higbvuyb says:
you cannot use dimensions, physical existence, etc in your thinking then
princess43653 says:you so s-t-u-p-i-d
Ant says:PRINCESS!!!!
princess43653 says:what
That comeback certainly took a while.
tl;dr
He wins, because you persisted to talk to the stupid fucker and then post it on the forum to make yourself feel better about yourself. If making yourself feel better wasn't the purpose, then your purpose has been lost entirely.
Well done, go have a happy meal to reward yourself.
Im sorry I dont believe I can post here. I only post about issues relevant to the game, and only when I have a valid point to make. I do not believe in random spamming for the sake of it. For more information, please refer to the red sentence in my signature....
yes.