Yesterday my sweet Germany beat Costa Rica in the opener classic, and Ecuador beat Poland to a surprisingly surprised audience. Earlier today England stopped Paraguay 1-0, and an even match between Trinidad & Tobago and Sweden is being played as I type this. The World Cup has finally arrived, and I couldn't be more excited! Sure, it's a shame Venezuela was so close to qualifying for the first time ever, but there's always, um... four years from now.
Here are my stat-less predictions for the first round:
GROUP A
Germany
Ecuador
Poland
Costa Rica
GROUP B
England
Sweden
Paraguay
Trinidad & Tobago
GROUP C
Angertina
Netherlands
Serbia and Montenegro
Côte d'Ivoire
GROUP D
Portugal
Mexico
Angola
Iran
GROUP E
Italy
Czech Republic
USA
Ghana
GROUP F
Brazil
Croatia
Japan
Australia
GROUP G
France
Korea Republic
Switzerland
Togo
GROUP H
Spain
Saudi Arabia
Ukraine
Tunisia
Some groups are very hard to predict, as there are many newcomers to the Cup that I've never seen play. Then there are groups like E and F, where both USA and Japan could kick the favorites out. We can't forget the disappointing performance of Italy, France and Argentina in 2002, so anything's possible.
I just got done watching the Trinidad-Tobago and Sweden match. Can't believe TT pulled if off over the Swedish with a tie. I watched the Germany-Costa Rica match yesterday and that was a really good one too.
As always, I'll be rooting for my favorite team: Brazil. :cool:
Argentina - Cote D'Ivoire in one hour. Should be a good match.
Yeeeeaaaah, go England. ^_^ There are like 15 shops around here offering free **** if England win the cup, so it could be interesting to see how that turns out.
And take that, Paraguay! *****es and their own goals.
G[COLOR="White"]odda[/COLOR]mnit, I'd so be into soccer right now if hockey wasn't still going on. But it's some lame pact me and my friends made up.
I swear that the world cup hasn't been this stupidly commercialised in previous years. I don't know what it's like over in the US, but over here you can't f*cking avoid it.
That said, wahey to England for winning the match.
Well, yeah, if you can't walk down the high street without seeing 40 shirtless chavs with red crosses painted across their faces and England flags worn like capes, then what CAN you do?
Most Americans are barely aware that it is occuring. It's just not too popular over here.
Oh, and go Germany! Rah! :cool:
Personally i want Italy to win becuase im 100% flesh and blood.
Australia's not much of a soccer country but hopefully that starts to change now that we're in it. It's the most international game, the biggest stage, and a shame we're not more into the biggest sporting event in the world.
England were terrible, and it's disappointing that Paraguay couldn't get through them for an equaliser. Oh well.
Going out on Monday night to watch our game against Japan on a cinema-sized screen at the Harbour. The game starts just beore midnight, should be great. We drew with Holland in a warm-up last week, and I think we're a chance of getting beyond the group stage, but Japan will be very very tough and Croatia are no slouches either.
SOCCEROOS!
lol at the fact that the only goal scored in the english match was scored by a paraguayan player
Iran and Mexico has been the most entertaining game so far... I really should go to bed but I probably will keep watching.
Yeah, both Mexico and Iran had really good goals. I would agree that this match has been the best so far.
Mexico pulls it off: 3-1
I found Trinidad & Tobago vs. Sweden to be a superior match. T&T played excellent defense against an aggressive Sweden, and the 0-0 score kept my interest through the very end.
Brazil is going to take this cup again, they are too dominant offensively and they have the best player in world, Ronaldinho. But normally I root for the underdog in these tournaments so I hope the Ivory Coast will bounce back from the loss by Argentina.
The almighty Guus reckons they're vulnerable in defence. I guess that means if you beat Brazil it has to be constant attacking and a score of like, 5-4 or something,
[i]*runs around chanting "3-1, 3-1, 3-1" and "Aussie Aussie Aussie Aussie" to the tune of that Brazillian "Ol
Eric Wynalda (former player and now commentator) best summed up the US performance after the game when he said "Can ya tell we're ****ed off?" He said it on the air, too. Worst game I've seen in awhile
The Aussie match was amazing. I got up to see the end of it and 3 amazing goals. Bravo.
As for the US, wow, I knew they would lose, but they really played ****ty.
Looks like the U.S. won't win the Cup...again.
Not that I really care. France, of course, Brazil, and Argentina are my main choices.:)
we didn't expect to win the cup, but we didn't expect to lose this badly. I'll mock you when (and I'm sure they will) france blows it yet again.
US shouldn't win, ever. It would be a terrible kick in the nuts to all the countries that do give a **** about soccer.
What Vampiro is really thinking: "WHO GIVES A BOOT ABOUT SOCCER WHEN THERE'S HOCKEY TO BE HAD!"
But srsly, is Canada even in this years world cup?
As for the US, yeah, they'll never win. I remember 4 years back when they made it to where there was 8 teams and everyone was really happy and actually started getting into soccer for that brief amount of time. Then...massive amounts of disappointment.
AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM
It's a pretty observable truth, although, American exceptionalism can also be used to denote inferiority as much as superiority.
I'MA QUOTE THE ECONOMIST NOW:
[quote]The odd man out
America's coolness towards football is another example of American exceptionalism
FOR the next month the world will be engaged in the closest thing yet found to a universal religion—watching football (or soccer, as Americans call it). From the mansions of Pimlico to the favelas of Rio de Janeiro, everyone but a few eccentrics will stop what they are doing in order to watch teams of young men trying—usually without success—to get a ball into a net. The World Cup will be broadcast to 5 billion people in 189 countries.
Amid this global fervour the United States will stand out like a temperance preacher at a Bierfest. Football is not quite the non-sport that it once was. The American team is not bad. There are a few pockets of football enthusiasts, mostly in posh suburbs and Latino-crowded inner cities. Fans will be able to follow the game without resorting to Spanish-language channels. But football still remains a distant also-ran behind American sports such as baseball, basketball, hockey and American football (in 2002 only 3.9m Americans watched the World Cup final, compared with 95m who watched this year's Super Bowl). The country that dominates the world's popular culture is hopelessly marginal when it comes to the world's most popular sport.
America's marginality is underlined by its failure to export its own sports. Baseball is popular in Japan and Central America, and basketball has recently become a craze in China; but that is a pretty poor record compared with the British Empire's success in exporting one of the world's most idiosyncratic games, cricket. The National Football League has singularly failed to convert Europeans to American football, despite decades of investment (this year's World Bowl attracted only 36,000 spectators). At a time when the world is obsessed with such icons of American popular culture as Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, nobody outside America gives a **** about Barry Bonds or LeBron James.
America is perhaps the only country that greets the World Cup with an orgy of football-bashing. In 1986 Jack Kemp took to the floor of Congress to contrast “European socialist” soccer with “democratic” and “capitalist” American football. In 2003 a blogger even pointed out that a leading al-Qaeda terrorist had been a European soccer player: “You don't see any former NFL players or Major League baseball players joining al-Qaeda, do you?”
This year is no different—though, for the time being at least, the focus of moral outrage has shifted from hooliganism to sexual depravity, with commentators fixating on Germany's willingness to provide “sex garages” and “mega-brothels” to slake the lusts of depraved football fans. On June 6th Tim Parks, writing in the Wall Street Journal, argued that the competition was “born out of cheating” before giving Uncle Sam a pat on the back: America finds it hard to get involved in this game of “world domination” because it is too busy with the “real thing”.
Yankee hostility to football draws on deep wells of both patriotism and populism. The history of assimilation has been one of abandoning foreign sports (primarily football) in favour of American pastimes. The sons of football-playing parents knew that they had become good Americans when they could quote the batting average of left-handed Yankee players in losing seasons. More recently, football has become embroiled in the culture wars. The most prominent supporters of football, apart from new immigrants, are overclass parents who want their little darlings to play a civilised foreign game rather than the lumbering American performance that bears the same name.
If the World Cup is an opportunity for football-bashing in America, it is also an opportunity for America-bashing in the rest of the world. Budweiser has tried to make a joke of America's weakness as a football power with the slogan “You do the football, we'll do the beer”. But for many Europeans football is not a joking matter. Andrei Markovits, a professor at the University of Michigan and the author of “Offside: Soccer and American Exceptionalism”, argues that Europeans are in a mood of “constant irritation” when it comes to America and football. Americans, they grumble, either fail to embrace the “beautiful game” or, when they do, get it wrong. How dare they turn it into a women's game! And how dare they insist on calling it “soccer”! Germany has been in high dudgeon for months over the fact that the national coach, J
3-1, how about those apples, all you anti, negative Soceroos poeple (no on ehere by the look if it).
Of course, no one is going to say what they were saying for the previos 6 months now that the result is in.
Its just predict the obvious, and if I am wrong, everyones happy and no one cares.
In other news, Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!!! :D
Alemania en el minuto 46!!
Germany with a well deserved victory over Poland!!
I'll say one thing about Americans... I can go to class and watch the taped game at home nearly 12 hours after its live broadcast and not have the match ruined along the way! All I have to do is ignore my Venezuelan friends and my family phone calls during that period of time.
DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES!!!! . . . ohne USA
since the US is pretty much not making it out of our group (I saw it coming), I will cheer for Germany and Australia and England. Germany ftw.
I've gotta say, if I was a Polish fan I probably would have rioted too.
I put 10 bucks on Spain to win the world cup (at 15 to 1) before their demolition of the Ukraine. I'm feeling good about it... they were the best team I've seen (I haven't watched Germany or the Czechs yet) in the first lot of matches, and were just a joy to behold.
I realise they're chokers, but they're still really talented and I figure they've gotta get it together eventually. Plus, I might as well have my money where my affections will lie after Australia is knocked out.
Ever the optimist!
Goooo England.
It got hijacked, sir.
Anyways, amazing victory by Argentina. 6-0.
That second goal was pretty sweet. Surely the Argies have to be favourites based on what we've seen so far.
Italy plays today. Hooray
Ghana beats the Czech Republic 2-0.
USA ties with Italy 1-1.
Standings:
Italy 4 pts.
Czech R. 3 pts.
Ghana 3 pts.
USA 1 pt.
USA is still in it.
Gotta beat Ghana though, and on yesterday's form that'll be very tricky. Hell of a group though.
The bigger question's gonna be how the Czechs and Italians come out against each other after last night's results. The easier scenario for the Americans is a Czech loss to Italy, an American win and an Italian win would see those two teams through. If the Italians lost, there would need to be a 5 goal cumulative margin between their loss and America's win. A draw between the two would see the Yanks needing to win by 4.
Qualification for Ghana is simple--win. Or, draw and hope the Czechs lose, preferably by 2.
Italy needs at least a draw, and the Czechs would need to win, unless the Yanks and Ghana drew in which case a draw would suffice.
Finally, the other motivating factor is that the second qualifier from group E will almost certainly play Brazil, while the top qualifier will get a far easier game against Australia, Japan or Croatia. Unless a Socceroos miracle happens tonight, of course... GO AUSSIE
Aussie's get beat 2-0 by Brazil. And once again France has a terrible performance.
how bout them heat and mavericks? (kidding, but seriously, no one gives a **** about the nba finals without the lakers)
this year i'm sticking with korea. they have a huge support base and such pride. if not korea, i'm liking argentinas chances. i just don't want brazil or germany to win because they always do.
i say argentina will win the WC, Brazil is not doing so well but i think they should let other countries win, its no fun that they keep winning, also for Germany. the last game with argentina was 6-0, thats pretty good.
i want japan to beat brazil so they can advance. brazil has been playing sloppy as for the two games. i wonder if they're going to turn it up in the next round, or against this match vs japan.
GO KOREA
Korea tied with France, at least they made a score. USA is getting good but i think Ghana is going to beat them, how funny, Italy made in their own goal, thats how USA sucked, they didnt made a score themselves but also the refree sucked, it was a late call, and it was red card, wtf? usually red cards go with injury on purpose but yellow cards are late calls, etc but in my opinion, it was a yellow card. USA is NOT going to make it. Japan is doing good, defense is good. Have you seen Austraila, pretty good.
[font=trebuchet ms][color=yellowgreen]Group A Prediction: Check!
Germany destroys Ecuador 3-0. Univision commentators, particularly former Paraguay goalkeeper Jos
Of course, Germany will win, Germany is the one of top best country in football, no doubt about it. I want to see Germany Vs. Brazil facing each other, could be a pretty good match but i really want Argentina to win, Brazil and Germany always steals the spotlight, let the other countries step aside.
recent events have led me to think that the Czech Republic will no longer win the WC and Spain is the team to bet on.
No, Czech Republic can still go 2nd, but if loses then its out, every country has 3 rounds, Czech: 1:0:1, they have one more chance, yea true Spain will go round 16, next is Sweden Vs. England!
Way ahead of you, BJ. I get 150 bucks if Spain goes all the way. Got on them before their first game.
america is getting screwed by this ref, and it seems as if all the ghana players are diving *******s.
****ing horse****.
US is out. Ghana moves on.
****ING ROBBED
Lose, draw, lose.
Man, you guys suck!
Would've been a tie if that penalty kick hadn't been called anyways.
As for England, they certainly haven't been impressive.
Win-win-draw's a lot better than you did, sir, and scores speak louder than words. :cool2:
Yeah!!! Italy comes out on top! Catch ya later USA.
OK, we're through, but What The F*CK was that? Craziness. 2 penalties that should've been given but weren't, Siminic given 2 yellow cards and not sent off...
Also who was that hack in our goalkeeper position?
Emerton will miss, that's gonna hurt.
the US got hosed. It should be the US and Czech Republic advancing, not those gutless wussies Ghana and Italy
i hate italy in soccer.
I mean, I know it's lame to blame refs, but JESUS the number of games with controversial calls is getting REDICULOUS. This is only the first round, and 2/3 of all games have had some total crap card thrown (TOO many cards, I think), and unfortunately, I feel that the US was one of the teams that got sent home because of this overzealous reffing.
Now I'm cheering for Germany, Aussies, and mayyyybe England. Owen's out so my fav player is ONCE AGAIN not playing. Michael Owen makes me sad :(
protip: being the only person who knows anything about soccer on the entire salesfloor of a department store helps you sell ten times as much when dealing with hispanics.
fix'd to make sense
They didn't call it "The Group of Death" for no reason.
Well for all the Brits I have talked to, including my own cousins from Machester, they seem to understand it better than you do. Usually I would not have said that, because it is foolish. And whats American got anything to do with it? I still know the game.
I know more about soccer than Klarth :P
Hint: I'm not being serious. I don't really care about football either, and I'm pretty sure you'll know a lot more about the sport than I do :)
[quote=Bj Blaskowitz]
I know more about soccer than Klarth :P
You're probably right.
Well, my apologies. I didn't really know if you were being serious or not, good that's cleared up.
Unless I'm making it perfectly clear that I hate someone, chances are I'm never serious. It's a golden rule. JUST LIKE HOW ENGLAND RULES THE WORLD AT FOOTBALL, hurr hurr.
Your so right :( ^
I need more pics of that alexi lalas dude, who does he play for anyways I cant tell lol. Wish us stayed in longer but oh well. Ill just hop to the bandwagon, I mean England :o
argentina vs brasil in the finals would be an amazing match.
Pffft. Germany vs Argentina will be an unreal game
****. is korea out?
Hell yes, England goes through again. Take that, Ecuador! We'd've been buggered over if they'd decided to substitute Becks in the end...
Germany-Sweden yesterday was a good match. Haha, Sweden's team looks like they were bought at Ikea :cool:
That England game was shocking
Ecuador played well. England barely got a goal out of the same team that Germany buried.
I wish the Netherlands had won :( Van basten showed no emotion in the game, and never played Ruud even though . . . Kyut or whatever Ruud's replacement was wasn't doing ANYTHING worthwhile. How can you not show ANY emotion when your team is playing like garbage and are about to be knocked out?!? Plus C. Ronaldo is a puss and he was crying on the sidelines, which made me laugh
The refs in the Netherlands-Portugal game sucked. So far so I've been pleased with the matches.
Oh well, Holland played with much disrespect.
Just a few hours now before Australia takes on Italy in what should be a **** hot match.
I may have to get up in the morning, but it'll be worth it anyway.
I'm rooting for Italy, but this penalty is bull****. He was already ON THE ****ING GROUND!
The refs in this World Cup have been some of the worst I've seen of any tournament. Funny enough, they're always making errors that favor the favorites.
Sucks BIG TIME for Australia. Italian guy took a dive and got the PK in final seconds.
Italy scores the PK and wins! In the 95th minute.
It's official, these refs suck!
meh, who cares Italia still won.
Well, that hurt.
Mix of pride and devestation right now, but the future is bright and the world has seen that we can mix it with the big boys. Italy got a cheap and lucky win and they **** well know it.
People will remember us in 4 years...
Brazil lost on a fluke.
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I don't speak English. wtf
I saw the television wrong. :(
That was the most painful and terrible umpiring decision I've ever seen.
As far as I saw it up until that point the umpiring had been flawless.
The Italian fell over the top of our guy who had eyes ONLY FOR THE BALL!
I want to take this game seriously but the fact that faking and being weak gets rewarded so often makes it not seem worth the effort.
Spain, always the underachiever. Again with a talented club capable of going the distance, and again they aren't even good enough to make it past the first 16. BOO! I remember seeing TVE when they lost in '98, and the whole network was acting like the Pope just died. You'd think they'd be used to it by now. Ugh, they make me angry!
Well, whatever. We've got two final rematches! Germany and Argentina faced in '86 and '90, and Brazil fell to France in '98! I'm truly worried about the Germany match, as Argentina is blazing hot... but so was Spain... then again Spain has a history of sucking while Argentina does not... though Germany beat the...
That was a freaking awesome match. I feel bad for the Argentinian players, though.
ALEMANIA VENCE EN PENALES A ARGENTINA!!!!
YEAH!!!!!
And like the sore, sore losers that they are, they start fighting. Typical Argentina.
YEAH, GO GERMANY! YEAH...!
Viva Italia!!!!! 3-0
Good match. Lucky for Germany the 2nd Goalie for Argentina SUCKED!!!
Guess I'm going for England now...
Whoever wins between England and Portugal it shall be an exciting match. It was a tense narrow victory in the Euro so Im excited!
Hopefully it wont go on longer than planned. I have a prom to get to :c
Come ON, England. COME ON!
England is domanting in this match, but they need to kick it up a notch.
"Dominating"? It's nil-nil and we've lost Rooney.
Im just saying there the better team, and have majority of the ball possesion.
England isn't dominating. With Rooney's expulsion and Portugal having some of its starters in the bench, the match has been pretty even. Portugal counterattacks a lot more than England, while the English are hopelessly trying to get a good header out of their sole frontman, Peter Crouch.
This match would've likely been over with all of Porto's starting lineup in the field.
And thus, the better squad won, although I didn't expect England to hold off los Portugueses until penalty kicks. At least this club has more of a chance of beating Brasil than England.
ow, tough loss England.
FUCK, FUCK FUCK FUCK. FUCKITY FUCK.
It would've been nice to win on our 40th anniversary. :'(
*** ROoney, way to be a twat.
That was a great match.
Can't wait for the Brazil - France match now.
Arrivederci Il Brasile! Non desidero mai vedere ancora le vostre facce! Va L'Italia.
I think I'm on les blaus now. They were awesome against the Brazilians and I loved the French fans and their singing at the pub I was at.
No, ****it! :(
I want it to be germany v france in the finals, just for the ww2 jokes alone.
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I've been seeing a lot of these games on the TV in the break room at work, since there are a lot of fans here. I've never followed soccer/football since I really just don't have any interest in sports, but if I had to pick one to like, that'd doubtlessly be it.
So, uh, Becks quit as England captain.
Uh, um. Uhhh. Uh. Oh ****.
I can't believe so many people are ****ed at Ronaldo.
I've hated him for a long time, like I said, Rooney acted like a twat so I'm not mad at Ronaldo for that. I'm mad at him for being. .. Ronaldo. A dribbler who's flashy and can't finish and cries too much.
Not only that Ronaldo is a pussy. Who was it that brushed against him during a tackle? Well Ronaldo grabbed his legs and rolled like tumbleweed for 6 miles screaming. His scream was heard. Drama queen.
The way I see soccer is a very melodramatic sport, back when i used to play i'd get a little brush to the shoulder and practically started doing front flips in the air.
Welcome to the Portugal football team. ;)
One of the reasons I think players fall over alot is because they are using their feet. American footballers only fall when tackled. They have control of both feet all the time. Football however you have to run, pass, tackle, shoot, defend, clear and everything using two feet. Doing more than one of these things at the same time is bound to cause unbalance.
Beckenbauer expressed his disdain of flopping too. It used to be only chileans and the like, but now everyone falls down if they're so much as looked at wrong. It's shameful and ruins the sport.
Well, go Germany now I guess. :cool:
Faking and overacting isn't cool.
When I played from under 6's to Under 11's there wa snever any fall over and milk a free kick, it was all just crazy little kids kicking a ball and having fun, some being skilled and so on.
But thats enough, I cant be bothered thinking about it anymore.
I hate to be a prick, but the United States, Germany, um, France. I don't think I've seen any of them do it.
I've seen both French and German players do it and, well, for Americans to do it they have to get near the ball first, don't they? c(:
I'm reallying looking forward to Euro 2008 now - it'll be so much fun crushing Portugal... bunch of PR!CKS
"Oh noes they scored! Sorry ref I wasn't ready!" :mad:
I've taken a closer look at the Ronney Red Card.
I think he did stamp on the balls on purpose. Rooney has a short temper and you can see him going back for the nuts when he could have placed it on the ground.
However Ranaldo running in crying didnt help the situation and you can see teh Ref reacts more when Ronaldo is pushed. This could be what the red card is for, or the Ref was already going to give him one and simply reacted in case he thought a fight was going to break out.
They've already explained this a million times. Stepping on the nuts was a yellow card, it wasn't until he pushed Ronaldo that he recieved the red card.
well, as a referee, I can tell you that Rooney deserved the red card. "Retaliation" is an automatic red card according to FIFA. If they think that you think you were fouled and then retaliated, then you get sent off.
Comon Italy, spin some majic, o il ill molto è rovesciato. Ma so che lo avete in voi.
[SIZE="7"]GOALLLLLL DEL PIERO, ITALIA TO THE 2006 WORLD CUP FINALS[/SIZE]
IF YOU CAN READ THIS YOU'RE TOO CLOSE
I was all for Germany, but whatever.
Most. Amazing. Finish. Ever.
Oh my goodness. Amazing play from Italy in the last few minutes.
Come on France!
I'll be ****ed, Italy finally straight up beat somebody.
Sad day :(
1-0, France currently.
I'm pulling for France, come on!!
as am I.
EDIT: Game over Italy meets France on Sunday
rep to whomever finds a good picture of C. Ronaldo sobbing after the match. I know there will be some out there
YAY! FRANCE WINS!
I can get one but you'll have to wait until the end of the re-shown match. So in like 1 hour and a half.
Heres some pictures of the game. I almost have a picture of Ronaldo sobbing. give it another minute. In the mean time:
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Ronaldo being melodramatic and doing flips in the air. WHEN NO ONES AROUND!
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Oh shi !!! Someone catch that ball!!!!
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The celebration after the goal!
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C. Ronaldo letting off some steam after missing the header off of Figo's free kick.
Man Ronaldo cries when he wins. What a unich.
Rooney was defiantly at fault but you must admit Ronaldo didnt do much to help the situation. And the wink afterwards is suspect.
As for mocking Ronaldo its been happening way before the World Cup. Come on he cries like a girl scout.
Well it could be argued Ronaldo deliberetly wound up Rooney by trying to get him sent off which provoked Rooney further, and this can be seen with the wink. However from what I heard Ronaldo ran up claiming to be a witness which in any case would seem more trustworhy. Although apparantly he was not. However it has also been argued that Ronaldo did give the red card. Appartnly the ref was going to give Ronney a yellow but the shove to Ronaldo made it red. Again you could blame Ronaldo for that if he did chose to provoke Ronney. Of course Rooney would still be at fault, but Rooney did say "you cheating ****" or something before he pushed Ronaldo so that could be seen as more evidnce of Ronaldo making things up in an attempt to give his team and advanage. If that is the case than a 'witness' making stuff up could sway a referee. And referees have been known to change their minds during talks with players, but not really with shouting. Rooney was shouting, Ronaldo was more talking.
And yes I hate him because of the way he cries. Theres crying like a man. And theres being a pussy. I can have any respect for a male who cries when he wins, loses or whatever. He blubbers like a girl.
[QUOTE=Bebop]Well it could be argued Ronaldo deliberetly wound up Rooney by trying to get him sent off which provoked Rooney further, and this can be seen with the wink.
That isn't Ronaldo's fault, though. Players always try to get the opposition sent off, and most players just argue back. Rooney stupidly pushed him right in front of the official. He should just control his temper. OR maybe Ronaldo knew that Rooney couldn't control himself and did it knowing Rooney would do something stupid, hence the wink. In any case, it's Rooney's fault.
[quote=Bebop]However from what I heard Ronaldo ran up claiming to be a witness which in any case would seem more trustworhy. Although apparantly he was not. However it has also been argued that Ronaldo did give the red card. Appartnly the ref was going to give Ronney a yellow but the shove to Ronaldo made it red. Again you could blame Ronaldo for that if he did chose to provoke Ronney. Of course Rooney would still be at fault, but Rooney did say "you cheating ****" or something before he pushed Ronaldo so that could be seen as more evidnce of Ronaldo making things up in an attempt to give his team and advanage. If that is the case than a 'witness' making stuff up could sway a referee. And referees have been known to change their minds during talks with players, but not really with shouting. Rooney was shouting, Ronaldo was more talking.
That makes no sense. The official called the play because of the stomp on the Portuguese defender, didn't he? Wouldn't that mean that the official already saw it? Even if not, I've never heard of an official making a call because someone convinced him of it. I think that an official good enough to referee a semifinal game would not be so stupid as to let himself be swayed by an angry opposition. You can't blame Ronaldo for Rooney shoving him, because that was his stupid choice, and what did he expect would happen? I don't think there's a ref in this World Cup stupid enough to change his decision because a player told him. It makes no sense.
By the way, did anyone see the advertisement of Rooney with a red cross painted on him? Someone edited it have Ronaldo's head in one hand and a bloody body in the other. It's hilarious. I can't remember where I saw it, though.
I like how I stressed over and over again that I didn't blame C. Ronaldo for Rooney's being sent off, yet Irrelevent reposted something he said defending C. Ronaldo for me.
I've always hated Christiano. He cries too much, does stepovers wtihout actually getting anywhere, is flashy but can't finish, and is too pretty. I'm just glad I'm in company now for disliking him.
And pound for pound, the English are a better team. They've got a great deal of talent, most of their players have played together quite a few times, etc. I'd cry too if I played like **** in a world cup that I shouldn't have lost. Portugal. . . not so much.
In conclusion:
Rooney was at fault.
That doesn't change that Ronaldo's a *****.
Ronaldo's still a *****.
[QUOTE=Bj Blaskowitz]I like how I stressed over and over again that I didn't blame C. Ronaldo for Rooney's being sent off, yet Irrelevent reposted something he said defending C. Ronaldo for me.
I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about all the English fans who booed Ronaldo in the Portugal-France game and who blame the English loss on Ronaldo.
[quote=bj][ronaldo] does stepovers wtihout actually getting anywhere, is flashy but can't finish, and is too pretty.
You don't watch enough Premier League.
I don't think either team deserved the win more than the other. It's not as if the English outplayed the Portuguese, so I don't think they deserved to win. It's not as if a bad officiating call was the reason they lost, or that Portugal just got lucky. They simply beat them in the penalty shootout. In reality, the English keeper only guessed the direction of the ball once on five shots, one he saved and one hit the post. Ricardo guessed all four correctly, and only one managed to trickle in after hitting his hand. It says a lot about which keeper is better at penalties, and therefore Portugal deserved to win.
In either case, the whole "ronaldo cries/sucks" thing is way too subjective, so let's just drop it.
PORTUGWNED
edit: until I find more recent picz, this is the official PORTUGWNED picture. And by recent, I mean. . . recent pictures of Ronaldo sobbing.
and I remember several times screaming at C Ronaldo during Man U games when he'd do four stepovers, and awesome turn, and then some bonehead flick intercepted by a defender or just gave them the ball. Hell, they were praising him just a few mins ago for some behind the leg flick, and I was yelling "YEAH BUT HE DID THAT AWESOME PASS RIGHT TO A GERMAN DEFENDER YOU ****HEAD".
ahem
That doesn't mean that he never gets anywhere doing that stuff. Sometimes it works, and sometimes the situation isn't ideal.
In either case, I predict an Italy win for the final. France barely scraped by Portugal on a disputable penalty, and Italy played well against Germany.
2006 World Cup finals today at 1:30 PM, comon Italy.
1-0 TO FRANCE, **** YEAH
The official screwed up to give Italy an undeserved penalty kick to win against Australia. Another gave France an undeserved penalty kick to win against Portugal. Now an official has given a penalty kick to France for nothing, in the final. The refs really are the story of the tournament so far. I think that they should either put two referees on the field, or if the official wants to give a penalty it should go to video replay. It's silly.
You're blind, there was clearly contact there. Besides, its not like the game is over. Theres still a whole second half, and since italy manag4ed to tie it up, its an open game.
France needs to get into their game more. They played far better against brasil, and they need to get back to that.
start of the secon half, france seems to have gotten the lead out
man, i hope they pull this off. Italy needs to chill the **** out with the fouls, too.
Ugh, it would be nice if I could watch this game is any other language than Italian. Though I guess it will be all the better when france wins.
Handball? Naaaaaaaaaaaah, lets wait to call that one.
Gah, it's going to penalties.
What the hell was Zidane thinking? Holy hell.
WHO THE HELL WAS THAT AND WHAT HAVE THEY DONE WITH ZIDANE?
OMG, i lol'd when the Zidane headbutted the Italian player. Red Card for you! :cookie2:
That player must have been running his mouth seriously bad for zidane to do that. Theres no way that zidane just though "Oh, I think I'll get a red card now i n my final match in the world cup finals LOL"
Dear Zidane,
why did you want france to lose?
-matt
Headbutt lol.
All in all not the most exciting game ever, but I'm glad my team won. I'm also interested to know the events that led up to the very lol worthy ejection.
la merde tragique :(
Zidane dives, 0 replays. Zidane misses a beautiful header, replays from every possible angle. Zidane smacks his head into an Italian's chest, 2 replays. Who bets the French fans will blame the loss on Materazzi?
I'd blame Bartez.
http://zidanechestbutt.ytmnd.com/
and more funny from ytmnd! http://portbeatfrance.ytmnd.com/
What the hell Zidane, what the hell.
I'm glad Italy won.
[font=trebuchet ms][color=yellowgreen]Zinedine, letting the pressure and emotions take over him. That hurt.
****it, now Italy has four wins and Germany has three. El
Bj, neither of those pages seem to be loading.
Edit: nevermind, it's working.
By the way, Materazzi is the Italian that Zidane headbutted, if anyone didn't understand my last post.
Eh, I was hoping France would win but I wasn't really rooting for either of them.
It was a very good match despite ending in penalties.
Dear me. Zinadane you fool!
am I the only person who doesn't think Zidane affected the match that much at all by being sent off so late? I mean, really, they were exhausted, do you think he was going to out-dribble four people and lay off a perfect pass to a sprinting Withord or something? France got beat, and I blame nobody (but if I HAD to blame someone, Barthez, you dove the right direction and missed that one penalty, plus you suck).
What a ****ing lame year this has been for sports. First North Carolina and now Italy? Ugh.
I blame islamic fundamentalism.
Neither came anywhere close. Though Buffon made a pretty nice save off the header.
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Zidane WOULD have made his penalty kick. It might have ended differently. Plus, the emotional shock of seeing their captain and leader kicked off the feild obviously had an effect on the team, which might have been that little bit that threw them off.
motivation and emotion are a common safety net for when someone gets beat and somethng bad happened. They would probably have still lost. Trezeguet would still have shot, so if all things happened in the same fashion, France would have missed the last shot under Trezeguet and they would ahve lost 5-4 instead of 5-3. That "motivation" or "emotion" thing is crap. They still wanted it more than the Italians, that was obvious.
and it ****es me off that people who have no ties whatsoever with Italy (at work at least) are so happy that they won. Eat ****, weirdos.
Yeah, I didn't want France to win originally, but anyone's better than Italy. So I cheered for them.
I'm sorry, but I think it's sorta lame. People yelling FORZA ITALIA and **** like they know what they're talking about. I'd rather some alientated clueless ******* ignore the world cup than some alienated clueless ******* cheer loudly in a restaurant like they have something invested.
I see what you mean. You mean the people who shout out Italian things like the die hard fans do, even though they don't have a clue behind it. Yeah, that thing ****es me off.
Eh, I completely understand. But people get sucked into the game. I'd rather more people enjoy soccer over here in North America than ignore it, personally.
I wish it were that simple, but I know that when they leave it'll still be "that fag sport"
This is a stupid question but why exactly did Zidane headbutt him?
Holding took place, words were exchanged, heads flew.
A few other reports claim that Moterazzi made some racial slurs at Zidane.
i didn't get to watch the game or hell, even follow the world cup this time around. but i DO know that zidane is retiring correct? it's disappointing for him to be ejected from his final game, and just upsetting the fans. he showed bad sportsmanship on his final game and didn't even probably get a second place medal because he was ejected.
what a disappointment, and a sad way to end his career.
I just hope people remember Zidane like I will. He was a maestro in the midfield, and did moves and 180s that made me **** myself. People love to mock the hero.
Yeah, if people remember him for "that guy who headbutted that other guy during the world cup" then that'll be pretty sad. A minor blemish shouldn't ruin his entire career.
Oh and:
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It was an awesome headbutt, though. A smashing way to end his career.
A true footballer to the very end... didn't use his hands.
wow what headbutt and .yeah he must said something really rude to make
him do that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gyu8W1g2co
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJPKM5aJGW8
yeah, I'm sure he was just asking him about a fishing trip or something. I mean, he seems like such a noble guy!
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bj Blaskowitz again.
More World Cuo '06 pictures:
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Buffon diving for the save. (Doesn't save it :()
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The little nudge that knocked Henry to a daze.
Yeah, except that if memory serves, that "little nudge" also included a full force elbow to the temple.
The italians are cheating, whining little ****stains who didnt deserve to win.
Man, people find a way to ***** about everything if their team doesn't win.
I just provided videos as to why I hated one player on the Italian team. I don't like that they won, but I admit that they deserved it. MY team, the USA (and 2nd MY teams being Germany then France) didn't win, but I admit the Italians deserved it. It's not their entire fault they have a real ****ball for a player.
different angle!! OMG
http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=3634510165961584975&q=zidane+materazzi
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YES! I finally got a picture of Zidane sobbing after being ejected. :D
What a ****ing pussy. Jesus.
He's entitled to cry. He just did something badass like headbutt a guy in the chest! Flinging oneself on the ground doesn't count as badass, so C Ronaldo's still a pussy.
additionally, let us compare. Open mouthed sobbs, with probably snot falling from C Ronaldo, or normal faced tears from Zidane? You guys are cute with this and all, but Ronaldo's still a wet vagina.
Oh I concur. I was just kidding. At least he cries in a manly way... and you know, over something decent like getting kick out of the championship game.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vhmN_cOnbmk
I doubt I could hold in my anger to that, if it's all true.
On a lighter and more awesome note: [url=http://www.dashes.com/anil/2006/07/11/zidane_world_cu]Zinadine headbutt animation meme roundup[/url]
lmao at pyramid head
how dumber can u noobs get
c.ronaldo did not headbut anyone it was zinidne zidane who did it in the 2006 germany world cup final how can u be so dumb and screw up a fact like that
well i'd call u a moma noob and a fool but thats slack to moma noobs and fools
lol
lozer
...lol.