40,000 suicide bombers, supposedly

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-2136638,00.html

I don't know how reliable the Times' sources were, but if any of it is at all meaningful then I wouldn't have a clue what to do as the prime minister. Wouldn't surprise me if it were just set up to try and scare people, though - 40,000 seems a stupidly high number.

This is, to say the least, rather disturbing news. I hope that Bush handles this decently for once, because if he doesnt a lot more people are going to die.

Yeah, “Britain’s demise is on our agenda” particularly stirred me. :X

The phrase 'wily England' made me lol.

Then I read the thing about Bush getting ready to attack Iran, and I was all :-(.

ah, the joys of Islamic fundamentalism

As opposed to christian fundamentalists, who blow up doctors at abortion clinics. Thats MUCH better. Oh, wait. No.

Also, how funny would it have been if one of those bombs went off during that march? THAT would have been one of the most lol worthy new items in a long time.

Actually, they are followers to the true ideals of Islam. Ever heard of Muhammed? Read up on him a bit. Get back to me.

Christian fundamentalists protest abortion clinics, stage massive PRAYER movements, and annoy people. They don't have tens of thousands of people planning on blowing themselves up, nor do they plan on killing people. Granted, to say "violence is the fundamental basis of Islam" sounds conservative and you instantly choose to ignore it. But how about this. You look into it, find flaws in it, and post them here, as opposed to just assuming that I don't know what I'm talking about?

Essentially, they are to Islam as a person who blew themselves up for Jesus would be to you, Beej. Granted, there are more people willing to grease themselves for Allah than *** (even though its the same being oll), but I think thats more of a cultural/societal thing.

[quote=Bj Blaskowitz]Actually, they are followers to the true ideals of Islam. Ever heard of Muhammed? Read up on him a bit. Get back to me.

Christian fundamentalists murder people working in abortion clinics, join the KKK, burn anything that even remotely opposes their religion like Pokémon toys and Harry Pooter books, join the IRA and annoy people. They don't have tens of thousands of people planning on burning people at the stake anymore, nor do they plan on running around a foreign land cutting peoples heads off in the name of Christ. Granted, to say "violence is the fundamental basis of Islam" sounds conservative and you instantly choose to ignore it. But how about this. You look into it, find flaws in it, and post them here, as opposed to just assuming that I don't know what I'm talking about?

HELLO MR CRUSADER. HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU "SAVE" TODAY?

Christianity is full of nutjobs who claim they're following the Bible to the letter and you bloody well know it.

I say we secretly suprise the Iranians and instead of the US or the UK destroying the Iranian Plants, we suprise them with an Attack from Russia and China.. Then if Iran tried to F*** with them we'd anal rape them from the western atmosphere while they're in the Eastern Atmosphere.

Or we could always release Saddam and let him have his Regime back, equip him with more WMD's and send him back to war with Iran like we did 20 years ago :-P

[quote=SomebodyRandom]Then if Iran tried to F*** with them we'd anal rape them from the western atmosphere while they're in the Eastern Atmosphere.

I don't think you know what the hell you just said.

Uh, arent Russia and China the ones that are stalling things in the Security Council?

Lookie what I found! A Christian more insane than all the crazy Islamic fundamentalists combined.

[URL="http://www.wimp.com/religious/"]http://www.wimp.com/religious/[/URL]

Let Saddam back in power, give him some weapons and i'm sure it'll lead to another Iran-Iraq war. And why not...?

Yes, surely that will work. Obviously he will do what we want him to do rather than use the weapons we gave him against us.

You are a moron. Gtfo.

If we GIVE him back the power he will somewhat appreciate our help. We'll promise him power to reign over the Iraqi people for a small simple invasion of Iran. We all know Iran and Iraq are mortal enemies and they just absolutely hate eachother. We won't give him weapon capability to destroy any further than into the nearest countries. Therefore we won't be effected by this.

1)Yes, it could. Then again, there is a chance that if you try to walk into a wall that you will walk through it. However, since the chance is so low that it is essentially zero, it can be said to be zero for all practical purposes. This is the case with Saddam. When dealing with people that are responsible for the deaths of many people, you cant really rely on shots that long.

2)Also, if you're so keen on letting him go, I wonder what you'd say to the kids that died in iraq to take him out of office?

3)np

haha I figured i'd let you know I wasn't being serious in the first place :-P

I think it'd be a stupid idea to release Saddam. Not that I think he'd survive. I think if he tried to take over Iraq he'd probably be assasinated anyways.

...ive never heard of a christian fundamentalist actually blowing up an abortion clinic....usually they just stat a televangelist network...

They're crazy enough to shoot, in my opinion.

Dude, bj, I'm Christian and even I can say fundamentalist Christians are crazy and often do resort to violence to get their point across. Nearly all fundamentalist religious groups are like that.

regardless, LoS, that's the way that it is. And they're raised in Paris. They're raised in a country which doesn't support or oppose any particular religion. Hell, if anything it supports Islam by allowing thousands of Arabic immigrants in. It's like whenever the kids shot up columbine. . . people blamed SOCIETY, people blamed MUSIC, people blamed VIDEO GAMES. . . nobody just admitted that the root of the problem was that the kids were ****ed up. I see a LARGE number of the followers of Islam to be ****ed up. While, Altinure, I don't see ANY Christians resulting to violence (I'm sure there are. . . what, 3 or so?). But what do I know, I'm an ******* conservative and you're all naive liberals, so maybe we're both wrong.

Most American Nazis are Christians, and there's thousands and thousands of them in the US alone.

Stop pidgeon-holing yourself and everyone around you into "conservative" and "liberal", the meaning of those words amount to "f[COLOR=lightgreen]u[/COLOR]ckwit" and "retard".

It's like you're looking for an excuse to insult any major religion other than Christianity, you know d[COLOR=lightgreen]a[/COLOR]mn well that most Muslims don't agree with suicide bombers and if you used Google once in a while you'd realise that Christians did the same thing hundreds of years ago.

You think Islam is the only religion that says you should ignore all other religions? Um, hello? Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all based on the same f[COLOR=lightgreen]u[/COLOR]cking book, the Old Testament. The first bloody commandment is "Do not worship any other G[COLOR=lightgreen]o[/COLOR]ds".

Just like Christianity, Islam gives a reward in heaven for martyrs. A bunch of idiots in the Middle-East think blowing yourself up in the name of Allah counts as being a martyr, when it doesn't. It's a load of crap.

Someone who's name escapes me once said "I contest that we are all athiests, and that I just believe in one less God than you. When you realise why you don't believe in anyone else's G[COLOR=lightgreen]o[/COLOR]d you'll realise why I don't believe in yours."
Stop ragging on athiests, because you're almost one.

yeah but my bible doesnt promise me virgins if i kill everyone whos not christian....actually last time i checked my bible said "thou shalt not kill|"...

How about reading the Koran first, and then commenting on it, instead of commenting first and reading later?

Spec, stop bashing liberals. It is irritaiting. I could make this whole post about Marines having one more brain cell than a donkey, but I won't. [/rant]

On topic: Terrorism matters not what religion you are, did everyone forget about Ireland, there are catholic terrorists their.

[quote=Speccy]Im far from what you would call a fundamentalist christian s hit for brains...

That doesnt really matter. If you're a christian, then it still applies to you. So if your version of it is dont kill, then you're a ****ty christian.

This is ridiculous, you're ignored pretty much everything I've said.

Islam is a younger religion than Christianty, about 7 centuries younger. Less than 500 years ago (16th century) Bloody Mary (Mary the first, Queen of England) was burning protestant christians left, right and centre.
Islamic extremists are doing the same thing Christian extremists were doing at the same point of the religion's development. This is extremely basic English history. Not knowing this would be like not knowing America was once a colony.

[quote]The difference is. . . Christian martyrs died for their beliefs. . . no more no less. Muslims ones killed themselves trying to kill others. . . don't insult me by thinking I'm going to honestly believe you're not smarter than this.

You just totally f[COLOR=lightgreen]u[/COLOR]cking ignored what I said. The requirements to be a martyr are exactly the same in either religion, to be killed for your belief. Notice the difference between dying for your beliefs and being killed for them.
Extremists, being the f[COLOR=lightgreen]u[/COLOR]cking idiots that they are, reckon that fighting by booby-trapping your own body because they're too poor to afford their own weapons *cough*bullshit*cough* counts as being killed by the other team.

[quote]I'm conservative, sorry buddy. People tend to take either a conservative stance or a liberal stance. Who has time to be a moderate when it concerns Islamic terrorism? Please don't bash my political beliefs, I don't bash you for being stupid.

Typical religious-idiot way of thinking. Most issues can't be split into "conservative" and "liberal", or "right" and "wrong". If there's one thing Christianity should've taught you it should've been that. Life isn't as simple as that extremely childish description you just put out.

[quote]Good quote, but doesn't pertain to me. Sorry. And I'll rag on Atheists all that I **** well please, as long as they sit idly by and let muslim immigrants dictate their policy for them. Suck my balls.

Newsflash. If Athiests think Christians are morons simply for being Christians then they sure as hell are going to be ****ed at Islamic extremists threatening to affect their life in any way because of their beliefs.

Okay, you guys seem to have misunderstood what I meant about the marine thing. He seems to blindly bash liberals, yet they are not all the same. I was trying to get a point across by doing the same thing he did, generalizing.

And I never compared the IRA to Al-Qada(SP?), I was just saying religion doesn't matter

[quote=Deut 20:16-18]In the cities of the nations the LORD your G[COLOR=Black]o[/COLOR]d is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them--the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites--as the LORD your G[COLOR=Black]o[/COLOR]d has commanded you. Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshipping their [COLOR=Black]go[/COLOR]ds, and you will sin against the LORD your G[COLOR=Black]o[/COLOR]d. [quote=Numbers 31:7-18][COLOR=Black]
[/COLOR] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=Black]They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba - the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho. [/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=Black]Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. Moses was angry with the officers of the army - the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds - who returned from the battle. [/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=Black]"Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
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17:2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy G[COLOR=Black]o[/COLOR]d giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy G[COLOR=Black]o[/COLOR]d, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other G[COLOR=Black]o[/COLOR]ds, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

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I also remind you of the slaying of the Amelekites, the destruction of Laish, The Crusades, and The Flood.[/COLOR]

Then again, I have high doubts as to whether anybody really kills for G[COLOR=Black]o[/COLOR]d anymore. The only real motives, in my opinion, are power and greed.