PS3 pushed back to November

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3148763

Well, I expected it. At least they're not being QUITE as vague about the launch date anymore.

Cool, more time for me to scrounge up some monies.

Current state of the PS3:

Weaker integer performance.
Weaker GPU.
Split RAM.
Slowest load times.
No online structure.
Releasing 9 months later than promised.

GOOOOOOOO SONY.

Sony is trying to cover up there mistakes and they're trying to keep gamers' minds off the ps3 until they are ready to released by starting a "rumor" about a new psp with a camera...and something else (I forgot :()

Well, seems to me everything is against Sony in this Gen.

Good, plenty of time for me to get money for the Rev.

Expected really. I've been hearing alot of reports that Sony has encountered production problems.

I'm curious about this lawsuit. :link:?

It's the Dualshock 2 one from way back, I think.

Whole thing's f*cking bullfeathers.

Shade: Don't steal my word.

And the lawsuit: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6145853.html

As for my opinion: NO WAI! Obviously this was going to happen. Even developers were complaining about how a spring launch was impossible. Watch this royally **** Nintendo though.

Huh, that's interesting.

I was gonna guess Jacko was sueing them 'cause kids could use the rumble as a vibrator.

Well, from my view, YOU stole it from ME.

What say you?

Well, since that was your first time actually saying it on this forum... I'd say your full of ****. Then again, I'll let this slide because I like you. Otherwise I would have strongly disagree. STRONGLY.

Okay okay, compromise. You get custody on the forum, and I in real life.

Or, we could just be like,

"You say that? I say that too."
"Aw, cool man, cool."

Ah cool, man, cool.

Oh well, at least it will get PS3 developers time to polish their games.

More like finish.

OHHHH SHIIIII
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/15/ps3-press-conference-it-begins/

[quote=Shade]+ Games I actually want to play, and games are all that matter for me on a system, so yeah, screw all the stuff you said.

Unless you're a massive SCE fan, PS3 has sod all. Most of it's support comes from 3rd parties.

[quote=Big Boss][FONT=trebuchet ms][COLOR=yellowgreen]Not quite. According to the latest isue of EGM, Sony is starting to take tips/copy from Xbox Live, including the addition of achievements, which was the one thing I love most about the 360. Not surprising, since Sony has been making polls for months to everyone they can about what online structure we'd like to see for the PS3.[/COLOR][/FONT]

Hmm, that sounds familiar, where have I heard that before?

"PS2 will lead the broadband revolution" - Ken Kuturagi

OH YEAH!

Most of its games might come from 3rd parties, but Sony has the best 3rd part support in the industry.

XBOX/360 has maybe 2 killer games for it - Halo and PGR

PS3 will have MGS, GTA, GT,FF(might be multi)

I know which ones i'd rather be playing, especially since PCs do FPS much better anyway ^.^

Oh yeah, because they bought out all those development studios.

Still, it's worth mentioning because there are still a lot of people out there that think Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy are owned by Sony.

Speedfreak, you know full well that once sony has an example from a quality company, they can make it work for them. Do you think the ps2 would have had even as little power as it did without the N64 and Dreamcast to show them where 3D gaming was heading? Not to mention analog sticks and the rumble feature. Online gaming is sure to be sony's next big theft. Their userbase doesn't really care about it when Microsoft makes it, but as soon as the sony logo is all over the service, they'll think it's the greatest and most original thing since bread sliced diagonally.

Did everyone's Sony-bullshit-detectors stop working today?

[quote]There's no official date for its unveiling, but it has been announced that the target date for its global launch is November 2004, so I'm pretty sure it'll be widely announced plenty of time ahead of that.

[URL="http://uk.playstation.com/features/featureStory.jhtml?storyId=104929_en_GB_FEAT"]http://uk.playstation.com/features/featureStory.jhtml?storyId=104929_en_GB_FEAT[/URL]
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Actual PSP Launch
Japan - December 2004
America - March 2005
Europe - September 2005

What about Nintendo continually pushing back Twilight Princess? Practically the same thing.

Yeah, except they're actually improving the game and not concentrating on marketing bullshit.

Sony could be improving the system and be allowing developers more time to improve the launch titles. Maybe make some games out at launch that originally wouldn't have made it.

Except that's not what they're doing, silly. It's Sony. Sooooony.

So? Soooooooo?

But it does give developers more time, whether that Sony's intent or not.

Yes, more PRODUCTIVE, VALUABLE TIME in which they twiddle their thumbs waiting for launch and get paid for it!

[quote=sony hating jack]PRODUCTIVE, VALUABLE TIME

Exactly! :)

...Carry on reading past that point, please.

And I think the fact that I own a PSP kinda disqualifies me from the "sony hating" front.

Oh smeg off, delaying a game is completely different to saying a system will have a global launch and then not letting parts of the world get it until almost a year afterwards. For the record, Nintendo delayed Zelda once, idiots just assumed that the earliest possible time it could release was the actual release date.

On top of that, Sony was blatently bullshitting all along about their spring release date. We've had numerous comments from tons of developers saying that there's no way it will release in spring, it was just an attempt to dampen the Xbox 360s launch. It's not like Nintendo could do the same thing to other game launches by delaying Zelda.

Their factory has a 1 month period of pregnancy before giving birth to another individual who's born with an extensive knowledge of developing games.

Yeah, exactly. It's a problem with BluRay copyright protection - the apparently copy-proof disc!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4807858.stm

As to what this could mean for Nintendo - well, uh. If they get it out in the US a decent about of time before PS3 - two or three months, let's say, even though developers will be working like champions to get the launch titles out - it could effectively kill Sony as a whole. Many, many people who were saving for a PS3 will just plump for a Revo instead due to the price, or just say 'buggrit' and get a 360 because of the year-long delay (a much more likely scenario).

I know that Rev will probably launch November-time, too, because Nintendo aren't really trying to kill people off. But it could be a huge turning point.

Eh, the only way I'll buy a Rev before a PS3 is if there's a new Golden Sun as a launch title.

Which isn't gonna happen.

Well, if the Rev does launch early, it's quite possible that you'll be able to save up what it cost you in the time between Rev and PS3 anyway, and get both.

Not to mention, with the money for the PS3, you could get a Rev and five games.

Does the Rev even have any announced launch titles?

Smash Bros. is all that's solid, as far as I can remember. Everything else is not being commented on because it's 'rumours and speculation'.

I'm fairly sure we'll see a Wario Ware, though, and an FPS of come sort. Probably an EA Sports title or two.

Anyway. PS3 talk!

Well this is a huge advantage for the 360 sales wise, many people will jump ship and get straight to the gaming without the wait. Also, 360 titles will probably look way better than PS3 launch titles because developers have had more time with the 360 and experience with the 360.

As for the Revolution, Super Smash Brothers alone is worth buying it for me.

As long as they get it out in time for the christmas market, they're guarenteed to sell out.

Kinda like every big console.

Any Sony console is guaranteed to sell out. Sony deliberately withhold stock to create hype because it's the latest 'must-have' item that no-one can get.

****! You have the best ideas.

I'm just going to do what I did with my 360. Get a pre-order, and sell the slip for 200-300 bucks. Easy cash

...you have even better ideas.

Who did you sell it to? eBay, or what?

Oh, I see. I wonder if that would work here.

It will. If there's a big enough demand for it (which there will be) kids WILL buy a slip. Turns out, many, many people did what I did.


It's even better when you get a ticket at a store who doesn't do pre-orders. The money you make is ALL profit.

Might have to do this. I'll be queueing up (hopefully first) on Revolution launch day, so if it launches first I'll gauge how many people will turn up for PS3. I know at the 360 launch there weren't a huge amount of people - maybe twenty or so. DS was only me and two other guys, although that was in my fairly small hometown.

Simple solution, go to your nearest big city. If I had a small town with low demand, I'd head over to Toronto, since you know there will be tons of people. Sure you gotta pay for gas, but you'll make more than you would in two weeks with a regular job.

I'm in a big city now. The DS launch was the only one I was in my tiny town for.

[quote=Big Boss][FONT=trebuchet ms][COLOR=yellowgreen]How do you think a non-gaming company that wants to get in the gaming business goes about making first-party games? Make their electronics people learn how to do it, or just hire people that already know how? Sony began building their game development branch by hiring teams and individual game makers. There's nothing wrong with that, and that's pretty much how any publisher starts, or did Nintendo breed its own game engineers and designers from scratch?[/COLOR][/FONT]

Funny you should say that, because most of Nintendo's oldest software designers actually started out as hardware engineers. Many game developers (especially in the west) today started as programmers, as they were often tasked with designing the entire game themselves anyway.

I didn't actually mean anything by what I said, anyway. I was just kinda pointing out the obvious.

[quote]What he does say is that the HDD "will be 60GB big, be completely upgradeable, and support Linux OS

!!!

Though I guess that shouldnt suprise me. What else would they use, windows?

I'll probably do the preorder-and-sell-the-ticket thing, and then use the profit to buy a Rev.:cool: