We've all heard about the Nintendo Revolution's fantastic ability to play games from the NES, SNES and N64. But will this service be free? I genuinely don't know. If there's been a press release explaining this, please, enlighten me about it. But if there isn't, do you think that Nintendo will make us pay for downloading the games? I personally think that would just be greedy of Nintendo, but, if they did make it a pay-per-download service, then I don't think we could do much about it.
I'm pretty sure that it was said that the whole wifi thing would be free.
Las time I checked, they were still unsure what to charge people for playing old games and were discussing it. I doubt they'll let us download it for free, but it will be very cheap.
im guessing 1 thru 5 dollars per game mayb more for pouplar titles like mario 64 but not too much
Assuming that they decide to charge for them, the N64 games will most likely end up costing more, as the increased complexity of the code would make it more difficult to convert to whatever format the Rev uses.
Um. It's called software emulation. The game code doesn't have to be changed at all.
Yeah, but emulators for better systems are more complex to do.
The N64 was emulated on Gamecube.
I don't know about the service pay or anything. All I've heard are rumors of Nintendo making you pay for the NES and SNES games only. N64 and others will be free.
Again that's just a rumor I've heard.
I really hope that everything is Completely free.
EDIT
If they do charge for NES & SNES downloads, I'll just continue to get my classic fix with my top-loading NES and SNES.
You're not allowed to talk any more. Even offline.
What I know is that Nintendo's NES,SNES,and N64 games will be free.
I demand a source for this information!
http://www.nintendo.com/revolution
Should be in there somewhere.
Um unless Nintendo is failing to tell their employee's than I highly doubt it. I've talked with a couple different Nintendo reps within the last 2 months, and they've talked about Nintendo planning to charge for downloads. However they were unsure whether or not it was going to be a monthly/yearly charge or if its going to be charge per game. Hopefully it's a small yearly charge if anything and not some dumb pay per game. If thats the case, then I won't be planning to purchase a Revolution. If it's just a yearly fee even if it's $60 I'd probably get the Revolution. Afterall I pay $50 a month for Xbox Live just to play online, so I'd easily pay $60 to have unlimited old titles.
Right so where exactly in that website says the games are free?
Yeah thats what I thought.
I've talked to Nintendo Representitives (actual Nintendo employee's) and they believe there is some sort of fee. I doubt it's free.
OMFG Your stupid as always... Durr (Wow I hope you feel retarded)
OMFG u mean the Revolution isn't an NES/SNES/N64/Gamecube? OMFG I thought it was all those in one and nothing more. I had no idea it'd ever release new titles like Super Smash Brothers Online or Mario 128, and I had no idea that it had better hardware than the Gamecube. Thank you almightly *******.
And I'd probably not purchase it if I had to pay for the old games. The old games are the #1 reason why i'm purchasing the dang thing. Not saying the new games will be bad, but I don't see much promise out of them yet.
Wow I think I became a little less intelligent by reading your post. I hope you have a wonderful day and try not to lose too many brain cells.
And this may not be the most legit source but it's a source:
http://www.joystiq.com/2005/06/07/revolution-downloads-not-for-free/
[quote=SomebodyRandom]Right so where exactly in that website says the games are free?
Yeah thats what I thought.
I've talked to Nintendo Representitives (actual Nintendo employee's) and they believe there is some sort of fee. I doubt it's free.
OMFG Your stupid as always... Durr (Wow I hope you feel retarded)
OMFG u mean the Revolution isn't an NES/SNES/N64/Gamecube? OMFG I thought it was all those in one and nothing more. I had no idea it'd ever release new titles like Super Smash Brothers Online or Mario 128, and I had no idea that it had better hardware than the Gamecube. Thank you almightly *******.
And I'd probably not purchase it if I had to pay for the old games. The old games are the #1 reason why i'm purchasing the dang thing. Not saying the new games will be bad, but I don't see much promise out of them yet.
Wow I think I became a little less intelligent by reading your post. I hope you have a wonderful day and try not to lose too many brain cells.
I still say you're stupid.
Metroid Prime 3- ALONE, is more reason than enough to buy REV.
The controller, Zelda, Mario, SSBO, and so on & so forth.
And the REV will be released with a low pricetag. (presumably)
The NES, SNES, N64 games will just be a mere bonus.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Xbox360, Halo3?
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HAH!
Sounds like a deal to me ^_^ No hard feelings right?
Hardware-wise, the Revolution is inferior. However, that's assuming that by 'hardware' you mean 'graphical power'. Because let's not forget, the controller is also hardware.
However, 'hardware-wise', the PS2 is inferior to GameCube and XBox. I don't think I need to elaborate any more.
SomebodyRandom - have you ever bought a console at launch? If you have, you'll have either bought it on the strength of a handful of games, or you've looked into the future and mapped out its potential to see if it'll be worth having a few years on. That's what we're doing. Yeah, sure, at launch there'll only be a few games worth getting, but further on in the life cycle, there's games that haven't even been announced, some that haven't even been thought of yet. It's the potential of the console that is important.
LOL I love how you guys do this. I'm sure either of you would say the 360 isn't worth getting because of the few good games at launch. And yet you turn around to say that Metroid Prime 3 or a handful of games alone are enough to purchase? I have boughten numerous consoles at launch before. Mainly because I like to try everything out and decide for myself.
RE4 and Animal Crossing better than the SNES? Don't think so.. Perhaps you were too young to play the SNES and it's Godly games. The Gamecube doesn't come close to comparison of the SNES. .
And so I didn't hear about Metroid Prime 3. Big whoop it's not huge news. It's probably the same as the first two. And Super Smash Brothers multiplayer gets old rather fast. After all it is a fighting style game.
And yes i'm saying the Revolution is Obsolete hardwarewise in comparison to the 360 and the PS3. I'm not saying the Revolution will be horrible, it'll have a processor 2.5x faster than the Gamecubes, but when comparing to the others it's nothing.
I feel that i've answered all the questions.
Obsolescence is different to inferiority. Technically, all consoles are obsolete technology, because every single one of them is superseded by the PC.
No, I didn't get an Xbox 360 at launch. The reason is because the games are all - without exception, in my opinion - a load of rubbish, and of course the price is much too much.
If, at some point in the future, there are good games available, I might consider getting one. But it will only be after a price drop, probably after the PS3 launch.
The Revolution, however - no, don't misunderstand me, there aren't any particularly good games at launch, save Smash Bros. We don't even know any launch line-up at all. We know that MP3 is confirmed, but not as a launch title... etc. However - I will be getting one at launch.
Why? Well, I can see for certain that there will be great things in the future of the console. Such an innovative control method cannot be missed, at all. With the Xbox 360, the graphics were upped, but that was it. The games are cack. With the Revolution, while the graphics may not be great, the controls are better, more immersive. Making for better games. And that's what's important.
You say you like to try everything out and decide for yourself. I suggest you wait until you can try the Revolution. I can't see how, on that logic, you're badmouthing it.
[quote=SomebodyRandom]LOL I love how you guys do this. I'm sure either of you would say the 360 isn't worth getting because of the few good games at launch. And yet you turn around to say that Metroid Prime 3 or a handful of games alone are enough to purchase? I have boughten numerous consoles at launch before. Mainly because I like to try everything out and decide for myself.
RE4 and Animal Crossing better than the SNES? Don't think so.. Perhaps you were too young to play the SNES and it's Godly games. The Gamecube doesn't come close to comparison of the SNES. .
And so I didn't hear about Metroid Prime 3. Big whoop it's not huge news. It's probably the same as the first two. And Super Smash Brothers multiplayer gets old rather fast. After all it is a fighting style game.
And yes i'm saying the Revolution is Obsolete hardwarewise in comparison to the 360 and the PS3. I'm not saying the Revolution will be horrible, it'll have a processor 2.5x faster than the Gamecubes, but when comparing to the others it's nothing.
I feel that i've answered all the questions.
When you buy a Nintendo console, you are garunteed Nintendo games. Nintendo are widely regarded as THE greatest game developer on the planet, and they release so many games that it's entirely possible to have a large game library full of AAA titles with plenty of variety, even if you don't buy games from any other company.
Buy a Microsoft console and you're garunteed games from Microsoft Game Studios, a company who's only notable development studios are Bungie, a relatively small team that can realistically only work on one game at a time, Bizarre Creations, who only make driving sims and Rare, who are about twice as big as the other two but have yet to really prove themselves after their heavy staff losses. These studios combined simply do not compare in size, numeracy, experience or game quality to Nintendo's studio's. You're not garunteed as many quality titles thoughout an Xbox's lifetime as a Nintendo system's lifestyle, so people tend to be a lot more cautious about buying non-Nintendo systems.
But you already knew that.
Oh, and you know jack shit about system specs. 2.5x a Gekko would piss all over Xenon i single thread performance.
More innovative then 360 and the PS3. That's for **** sure. People should be more careful with their wording. They mean MORE innovative.
ok so Nintendo has backwards compatibility, going online, changed their controller setupt. Ok thats what the others did too. I'm confused now about innovation. And here I thought Nintendo was innovative.
Because you're a fucking imbecile. Nintendo changed their controller GREATLY, Sony and Microsoft merely refined their current designs.
It's not that great. I went to this Arcade place that had arcade games with the same basic deal of the Revolution controller. And they developed those years ago. It's not that great trust me. I'm not saying it's going to be the same but it doesn't seem like anything special.
Oh and it looks gay
There has never been any device with the functionality of the Revolution controller, ever. At most arcade peripherals have tracked 2 dimensions. The Revolution controller tracks 3 dimensions, one axis and has some advanced lightgun-style technology.
STOP TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
Something doesn't need to be "innovative" to be good, right?
No, but it helps.
Right so I only used a control like device (which wasn't wireless though) and it had a similiar basic setup but it wasn't the same? I don't really get it. It was like a remote plugged it that when you swung it, it swung the sword in the game. And you had to use a analog stick to move around. And thats not the same? Sounds a lot a like to me. I mean sure you can use it like a normal controller too but i'm telling you it's been done.
And i'm not saying the Revolution will be horrible. Chances are it'll be awesome. Aslong as they don't charge much for the downloaded games it'll be awesome. If they do charge a lot, it'll suck horribly unless the new developed games are Godly. We'll have to wait and see. I don't really care for anyone who trashes the 360 when they don't have one, say how godly the Revolution is when it sure as hell isn't out yet. I'm trying to prove a point here. Y'see it's getting old how everyone says the Revolution will be god like when it's not even out yet. And especially when the majority of 360 games aren't even out, you guys pre judge it and say it's horrible. Tsk Tsk..
Ugh, gain a scrap of intelligence, will you? The sword game is a 2D interface, it only tracks 2 dimensions. The revolution controller does more than that. Saying there's an existing controller that does something similar does't mean a thing. In case you haven't noticed, Xbox and PS2 both do something pretty d[COLOR=lightgreen]a[/COLOR]mn similar to Xbox 360 and PS3.
The Revolution controller isnt innovative because theres a single arcade game that vaguely represents half of it's capabilities. That's your arguement.
Explain 2-D interface? It was a definite 3-D game and it wasn't only for one game. It was used for 5 or 6 games. It seems as though Nintendo took an idea from something that already existed and put it on a console which hasn't been done. Sure it's innovative but it's not as special as people like to think.
The interface only tracks 2 dimensions, vertical and horizontal, so it can't really be used as a sword any more than a touch-screen can. The Revolution controller tracks the vertical, horizontal and Z (depth) dimensions, aswell as rotation. It's the only controller that can detect every single movement possible in a 3D space. So it's the worlds first 3D interface to be used as a standard control method for a games console.
Yeah this is what it had. It wasn't some 2-D interfaced game. Trust me it was more than vertical and horizontal. It was kind of fun actually. I hope they make a star wars lightsaber game for the Revolution.
You're talking about Tsurugi, or Blade of Honor in the US. It actually had (partial) 3-dimensional control, but not with the wand/sword hilt controller, which was 2-dimensional with pseudo-3D imagery. To move forward into the screen you stepped onto a pedal, physically moving yourself forward into the booth and your character forward to stab.
It was highly immersive, but fundamentally flawed in that it was an on-rails system.
Now fast-forward to the Revolution. You DO have an analogue stick attached, now. You CAN move in three dimensions.
Explain how this is bad. You're just adding more functionality to the already available interface.
In Nintendo Power, they recently announced that you will be able to download Sega Genesis games as well!
Old news, I'm afraid. TurboGrafx games are also available.
I believe Nintendo recently said that they'd be making cheap SDKs available, and the games produced with them would be distributed through the virtual console... If this is true, then I'm in homebrew heaven.
Reading somebody random's posts has made me want to die. Nintendo has made more innovations in this one console than the entire microsoft corporation has made EVER.
your all wrong the code has not been changed but its been updated so they dont need to change the code at all
...sorry? Where has anything been said about that?
on the first page man u stupid is says that the nes,snes and n64 game downloads will cost because they have to change the code but there not changing the code there updating it
I can see you can't write, but can you read? Changing and updating the code are the same thing. Besides - we have no idea whether they'll cost anything. I fully expect the games to be a pay per download service, with the Stars system incorporated into that. Somewhere, also, I read that with a purchase of a Nintendo game you'd be able to get a downloadable game or two with it - which backs up my Stars theory.
updating isnt the same as changing because they are keeping the old codes and adding new ones you dickhead
Let me know how you're supposed to update code without changing it. Do you know anything about programming? I call ban.
i no everything about programing and updating the code means adding new codes to the old codes like the xbox 360 update disc it only adds the old xbox codes to the xbox 360 system.
Last I heard about it, it was something like $5 for one download, and you get one free with every Wii game purchase. Something about one free per month, too. How accurate any of that is, I'm not sure. I don't recall where I read it. Probably here somewhere, which might make it even less accurate.
True, but like I said, I don't know how accurate that is. It would be great, though, since as you said finding an old game that cheap is hard. Hell, a used copy of Super Mario RPG was going for $70 at one of my local gaming stores a few months ago, so if they have any left, I'm sure it's even more expensive.
just incase someone hasn't mentioned it:
http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707705/vids_1.html
Yeah, the controller looks great for old-school games.
Personally, I think it looks a little uncomfortable, but not that big a deal. I'm sure I'll get used to it once I play it for a week or two.
Actually I read from somewhere you need "points" to download older games. 100 points for $1USD. The N64 games I read would cost about $10USD and the NES/SNES would be $5USD or so.